highaltitude.log.20180609

[00:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0320011 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0320011
[00:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430655 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430655
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[00:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2350051 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2350051
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[00:42] <fsphil> another slow descent
[00:42] <fsphil> the met might have a bad batch of balloons
[00:42] <fsphil> -16m/s at 26km
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[02:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5WWL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5WWL
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[02:06] <Oddstr25> Any suggestions on ISM band transceivers to have a look at, in addition to the HopeRF and Nordicsemi ones? Low power long range in hilly forest terrain would be my primary use case
[02:10] Nick change: Oddstr25 -> Oddstr13
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[03:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ECS_18 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ECS_18
[03:35] <PB0AHX> gm all
[03:39] <PE1ANS> Mogge Herman
[03:40] <PB0AHX> mogge Jan hij is los
[03:40] <PE1ANS> Yep, is wel erg vroeg hoor
[03:41] <PB0AHX> ja zeg dat wel erg vroeg maar ach
[03:44] <M0VKK-navrac> Good morning
[03:45] <PB0AHX> morning
[03:51] <PE2BZ> Zo dan... Goedemorgen allemaal !
[03:51] <PB0AHX> thats fast Jan
[03:51] <PE2BZ> Good morning
[03:51] <PB0AHX> morning Ben
[03:51] <PE1ANS> gm Ben
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[03:52] <PE1ANS> exelent signal
[03:52] <Steve_ECS> Hello there habbers
[03:52] <Steve_ECS> thank you for tracking our balloon to the few people awake at this time!
[03:52] <PB0AHX> ure welcome
[03:52] <PE2BZ> lets wipe some sleep out of my eyes first....
[03:53] <PB0AHX> u need koffie Ben
[03:53] <M0VKK-navrac> no problem, I havent got out of bed yet,
[03:53] <PE2BZ> Bring me some, Herman
[03:54] <PB0AHX> hihihi lol
[03:54] <PB0AHX> i have a trace on the waterfall
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[03:57] <PE2BZ> Decoded image packet. Callsign: ECS-18, Image ID: 05, Resolution: 640x480, Packet ID: 65
[03:59] <PB0AHX> yes here also firts green
[04:01] <g8fjg> morning all...good signal here!!..looks stable , so back inside for cup of tea and perhaps a FULL English
[04:04] <PB0AHX> nice pictures
[04:05] <M0VKK-navrac> nice sunrise on this one
[04:06] <PE2BZ> PB0AHX are you using the Icom or an SDR ?
[04:07] <PB0AHX> icom
[04:07] <PE2BZ> Ok. On the SDR there appears another signal, with smaller shift, on 432.320
[04:08] <PE2BZ> from the same antenna direction
[04:08] <PB0AHX> is skype on by u now Ben ?
[04:09] <PE1ANS> pity that the frequency is not very clean here, I regularly miss strings
[04:09] <PE2BZ> Not with microphone, everyone is asleep
[04:09] <PB0AHX> ok
[04:10] <PB0AHX> i mis also the data string here some times
[04:11] <M0VKK-navrac> I cant see anything on 432.320 from here, but i have a very narrow beam angle
[04:12] <PE2BZ> thanks. could be local
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[04:21] <PB0AHX> i have dongel now also on
[04:22] <PB0AHX> on the horizontal antenne
[04:27] <navrac> My antenna are all Hoz, suprisingly it doesnt seem to matter
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[04:27] <PB0AHX> hier big diferent between hor or vertical
[04:29] <navrac> I have quite a lot of gain - I haven't tracked a balloon for years - I just changed from 2m EME to 70cm and thought I'd try the system out on a balloon
[04:29] <PB0AHX> smart
[04:30] <navrac> well on 70cm when theres no moon all there is on 70cm is becons which are a bit boring
[04:31] <navrac> beacons even
[04:33] Action: PE2BZ notices an early morning typo the other signal is on 434.320 and not on 432.420 MHz
[04:33] <PB0AHX> i am stopt with EME on 2 mtr on this moment i make a new tower on the roof and now i have 2 x 10 ele for 70 1 vertical and 1 horizontal and 1 6 ele for 2 mtr til now
[04:34] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/6kgdkfM
[04:35] <PB0AHX> looks like rtty Ben
[04:35] <navrac> My 2m system was a bit large and I got complaints - so 70cm seemed to be worth a try. But a lot less activity
[04:35] <PB0AHX> i play last 2 week with FT8 mode is very nice on 2 mtr
[04:36] <PE2BZ> butt also very little activity on 70 cm with FT8
[04:36] <PE2BZ> -t
[04:36] <PB0AHX> the bollon is now 15km nice
[04:37] <PE2BZ> it´s on PI6WL :-)
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[04:39] <PB0AHX> i see
[04:39] <PB0AHX> nice
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[04:41] <PE2BZ> day has started ;-)
[04:45] <PB0AHX> see https://pi6wl.nl/player.php
[04:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[04:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4130498 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4130498
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[05:03] <rd55a> What's the difference between the LoRa RF96 and RF98 models?
[05:03] <PB0AHX> 21 km now nice
[05:05] <PB0AHX> rd55a, i dont know sory
[05:06] <rd55a> it is all good thanks tho
[05:06] <PE2BZ> o o
[05:07] <PE2BZ> rd55a is one model for 915 MHz and one for 433 MHz ?
[05:07] <PB0AHX> he is frozen i think
[05:07] <rd55a> Nope, both on 433
[05:07] <PE1ANS> Do I know this,,
[05:08] <PE2BZ> PE1ANS :-(
[05:08] <PB0AHX> no Jan hihihi lol
[05:11] <PE1ANS> too bad, wait until he defrosts
[05:11] <PB0AHX> then he must first burst
[05:13] <PE2BZ> rd55a not much info on the differences indeed
[05:13] <PE2BZ> https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/9/98bdd20f97d898d67811d48ca0813f14c91d13f8.png
[05:13] <rd55a> Yeah, I've been googling around for a while
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[05:21] <PB0AHX> i think he is burst lot off drift now
[05:21] <PE2BZ> the rf96 appears to have separate RF I and RF O ?
[05:22] <PE2BZ> https://mgbot.ru/tools/download.php?file=1918
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[05:22] <PE2BZ> page 10 / Figure 2 Pin Diagrams
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[05:27] <PE2BZ> Hi Steve
[05:28] <steve_ecs> hello.... looking like the signal has died...?
[05:28] <PB0AHX> i think he is frozen
[05:28] <PE2BZ> Looks like it´s transmitting single carrier (RTTY Mark) but we hope that it returns
[05:29] <PE2BZ> after it gets lower and the temperature increases
[05:29] <steve_ecs> does that mean that you can still pick something up....?
[05:29] <steve_ecs> oh that's good
[05:29] <steve_ecs> it is very cold up there
[05:29] <PE2BZ> Over here we still receive the carrier with a little frequency drift. What type of tracker do you use ?
[05:29] <steve_ecs> pi in the sky
[05:30] <PE2BZ> and battery / isolation ?
[05:31] <steve_ecs> polystyrene box, energiser lithium batteries
[05:31] <steve_ecs> possibly insufficient
[05:31] <PE2BZ> Energizer lithium do withstand -50 degrees without isolation. Been there, done that....
[05:32] <steve_ecs> ah well that's something
[05:32] <steve_ecs> so fingers crossed it comes back online as it decends
[05:32] <PE2BZ> I don´t recall any pits ever had this problem. We had this with arduino / rfm based trackers
[05:32] <PE2BZ> You plan for recovery I assume ?
[05:33] <PE2BZ> Given the stable single tone I assume it´s not bursted yet
[05:36] <PE2BZ> rd55a I pasted an url with some difference between 96 and 98
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[05:39] <steve_ecs> yes hoping to retrieve the payload
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[05:39] <steve_ecs> in van now, hence signal coming and going
[05:40] <rd55a> PE2BZ I'm reading it, just trying to figure out the specific differences. Looks like the big difference is the presence of a "RFO_HF" pin on the 96, but how does that impact operation? They both operate at the same freq
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[05:42] <PE2BZ> My guess would be that this type allows by design that you can connect 2 different antenna´s, one for rx and one for tx. To meet rules about output power vs gain you could use a 0 dB tx antenna but connect a 12 dbI gain RX antenna
[05:43] <rd55a> Ohhh I see
[05:43] <rd55a> On an aside -- Do you know where I could find those rules you mentioned? Probably would be good stuff to know :P
[05:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZR6TG-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZR6TG-11
[05:47] <PB0AHX> the signaal is going down here
[05:50] <PE2BZ> for the netherlands we have a website where they publish rules for frequency use without license, with power, duty cycle and so on.
[05:51] <PE2BZ> steve_ecs the signal over here is also gone now. sorry
[05:51] <steve_ecs> Thanks
[05:52] <steve_ecs> does that mean the balloon is falling
[05:52] <steve_ecs> ?
[05:52] <PE2BZ> I would say it´s below 7 km now
[05:52] <PE2BZ> given that I picked it up quite strong at 6800 meter when ascending
[05:53] <rd55a> Ahh I see okay
[05:53] <rd55a> I'm US-based so I'll take a look
[05:55] <PE1ANS> was letting the dog out for a while, no more signal :-(
[05:55] <PE2BZ> and do you intend to fly the rfm or use it stationary ?
[05:55] <PE2BZ> I guess you should use the 915 MHz version for the US but maybe someone else hops in about that
[05:56] <PE2BZ> PE1ANS je was de laatste strohalm, wij zijn hem ook kwijt
[05:56] <PE1ANS> Unfortunately
[05:56] <PE2BZ> steve_ecs what do you use for receiving your own payload ?
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[05:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-19 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-19
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[05:58] <PE2BZ> PE1ANS 2 kHz up do you recieve something ?
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[06:00] <PE1ANS> no, nothing
[06:01] <PE2BZ> I have a single carrier at 434.317 which seems to shift a bit, 20 - 30 hz up
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[06:02] <PE2BZ> nothing on the farnham sdr so must be local. I have to go to my work so I am afk for a while. Duty calls in the weekend :-(
[06:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050837 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050837
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[06:18] <rd55a> PE2BZ I have a radio license so I'm able to use the 434 MHz, am planning to fly the module
[06:19] <rd55a> I currently have a 96W
[06:19] <rd55a> Looks like the bcasting limit is 1.5 kW from what I've seen
[06:19] <rd55a> I think I'll be well below that :)
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[07:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS15
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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9IAC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9IAC-11
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[08:58] <PE2BZ> !payload bss15
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> wspr 20m
[09:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> but its mailfunktioning, verry low power out, no stations hearing it but me as it going up near me
[09:04] <PE2BZ> tnx which callsign ?
[09:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> sa6bss
[09:05] <PE2BZ> Thats not nice...
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[09:08] <Mike-SA6BSS> it happens, cheap and easy to build so no big deal :/ got a new cannister with gas yesterady, every launch is like 10£ in in total cost
[09:09] <PE2BZ> so BSS16 is close ;-)
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[09:09] <Mike-SA6BSS> it is :)
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[09:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-14
[09:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-15
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[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5HS-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5HS-9_chase
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[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030427 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030427
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[10:59] <StevieP> Hi All, planning on launching tomorrow (Sunday) as per habhub schedule (likely 1100 local time from Worksop, UK). Would appreciate any help we can get with tracking!
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[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N3423341 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N3423341
[11:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ryan422_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ryan422_chase
[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3620710 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3620710
[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N3423341_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N3423341_chase
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820413 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820413
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710077 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710077
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3720050 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3720050
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[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250543 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250543
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[11:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Dl7-ad12_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Dl7-ad12_chase
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[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:48] <Mark_B> Hi, how are you doing?
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[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MM10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MM10
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[12:02] <Mark_B> MM10 test carried out - satis :)
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[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050838 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050838
[12:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD108 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD108
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[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430559 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430559
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[12:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2620494 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2620494
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[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SR8NPU - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SR8NPU
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[14:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG5IFR after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5IFR
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4DRI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4DRI-11
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W2MBW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W2MBW-11
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[16:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ6NLN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN_chase
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[16:41] <Mark_B> Good evening
[16:42] <Mark_B> 50901f9e90fc6260dcfc2a8c88daf220
[16:43] <adamgreig> you want #habhub
[16:43] <Mark_B> Hell Adam, thanks
[16:43] <Mark_B> Yikes, I mean hello
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[16:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6RC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6RC-11
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[16:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM6CSQ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM6CSQ-11
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[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3720254 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3720254
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[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050839 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050839
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[18:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-20 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-20
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[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-14 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-14
[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-12
[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-1
[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-13
[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-2
[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-3
[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-11
[19:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-15
[19:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN-14
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[20:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[20:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4LGT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4LGT
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[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2933172 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2933172
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[20:55] <vcazan> hello, I just have a quick question about where to mount the radar reflector. Do I mount it under the payload, or between the parachute and payload. I am worried it may interfere with my antenna that is on the bottom of the payload. Any advise is appreciated.
[20:57] <daveake> I've never flown one (we don't need to in the UK, and they are not recommended), but I'd put it between payload and parachute, on the basis that you want the heavier items lower to avoid tangling after the balloon bursts
[21:00] <vcazan> Okay, sound advice, thanks!
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[21:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7TZN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7TZN
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[21:04] <chris_99> what is a radar reflector out of interest, just sheets of metal?
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[21:06] <gonzo_> usually it's some rf reflective material (usually metal) with sheets arranges at right angles
[21:07] <gonzo_> so it bounces the radar pulse back in the direction it came
[21:07] <gonzo_> (not done the maths, but I think that is the idea)
[21:07] <gonzo_> an RF cats-eye
[21:07] <chris_99> gotcha, makes sense. Dumb question though, planes generally don't have radar emitters on do they?
[21:07] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://www.google.se/search?q=radar+reflector+balloon&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEuvHxvcfbAhXBDSwKHcMfBKwQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=734
[21:08] <gonzo_> you mean a radar set?
[21:08] <chris_99> yeah something that emits and recieves the rf
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[21:09] <gonzo_> yep. civi a/c may have weather radar, though they usuall;y rely on ATC to whatch for other p[lanes
[21:10] <gonzo_> .mil have navigation radar, targeting radar and radar altimeters
[21:10] <gonzo_> in hab world, a radar reflector would be to let ATC see it
[21:11] <chris_99> ahh, that makes sense re. .mil planes. it would be good i imagine if all planes could have radar though. i thought i heard a while ago they wanted to make some kind of system that would make sure planes avoid each other somehow
[21:11] <chris_99> like some kind of negotiation protocol that would make one go higher and the other lower or something
[21:12] <bertrik> most/(all?) planes have an ads-b/mode-s transponder sending 1 mbps pulses at 1090 MHz
[21:13] <bertrik> you can receive those with an rtl-sdr stick
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[21:13] <bertrik> typically small airplanes and helicopters just send their id and altitude, the big ones also send a GPS coordinate
[21:14] <chris_99> yeah i've played with dump1090 a while ago for that, do planes use that info out of interest, so they can see nearby planes?
[21:15] <chris_99> like do they display ads-b info
[21:16] <vcazan> I contacted NavCanada and they recommended I put one, I made it out of foam board and aluminum tape
[21:16] <bertrik> there's TCAS/ACAS giving alerts about collision risks based off these signals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system
[21:16] <chris_99> oh neat
[21:16] <gonzo_> I have a feeling that they may use ads-b for collision warnings
[21:17] <gonzo_> snap
[21:17] <chris_99> yeah that wiki article indicates they do
[21:17] <vcazan> http://www.overlookhorizon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/radar-1.jpg
[21:17] <chris_99> although it does say 'Hybrid surveillance does not make use of ADS-B's aircraft flight information in the TCAS conflict detection algorithms; ADS-B is used only to identify aircraft that can safely be interrogated at a lower rate.' hmm
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028144 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028144
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WorksopCollege - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WorksopCollege
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