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[00:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0310601 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0310601
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[02:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M3613324 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M3613324
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[02:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OH6VHF-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OH6VHF-2
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[03:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-16006099 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-16006099
[03:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OH6VHF-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OH6VHF-4
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[03:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140902 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140902
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[04:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1720859 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1720859
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[04:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030486 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030486
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[05:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710058 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710058
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[05:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0610188 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0610188
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[05:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2130424 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2130424
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[06:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-20 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-20
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[07:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TA2MUN-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2MUN-13
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[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1730426 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1730426
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[08:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6ZWR after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR
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[08:15] <LIERO> Hello, I have a ~800g payload for a HAB, does it make much of a difference if I use a 600g or 800g balloon?
[08:15] <LIERO> (according to the online calculators - there isn´t much of a difference)
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[08:22] <habby> Hi all, I assume http://balloonconsulting.com/ is now defunkt? It is still linked from ukhas. Is there any other information/products out there about automated/remote triggered cutdown systems?
[08:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-10
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[08:29] <hopej> Hi all, I am trying to follow this guide: https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:fill_tube
[08:29] <hopej> to make a balloon filler. How is the hosepipe/flexible tube fixed in. It looks like the tube used as a solid flat end.
[08:31] <habby> hopej It just snugly fits (ish) after a bit of heat with a hairdryer etc. Then gaffer it up.
[08:32] <hopej> I mean, fitting the hosepip to the large pvc tube. My pvc pip is open both ends, theirs seems to be closed one end
[08:35] <craag> They're using a spacer in there to fill the gap
[08:35] <hopej> ahh ok
[08:36] <craag> you can get sealed caps for most pvc piping, note that you'll want to reinforce the entry though as a pipe going through a thin wall has no mechanical strength.
[08:36] <hopej> I cannot seem to find those online
[08:37] <craag> I didn't have much luck online, went down to my local DIY store with a balloon and found stuff that fitted.
[08:38] <mattbrejza> or just use gaffa tape to seal the large gap...
[08:38] <hopej> I only really need to bring the tube in though don't I? Just looking for an end cap or something for a 40mm pipe
[08:39] <hopej> True, I guess gaffa would hold
[08:39] <mattbrejza> also normal hosepipe can be made to fit over 3/8" pipe fitting by softening over the hob, then moulding to the thread while warm
[08:39] <daveake> I've tried different methods ... expanding foam (very messy), bath seal (takes ages to set) ...
[08:39] <mattbrejza> then add a pipe clamp thing
[08:40] <daveake> Pipe insulation provides some mechanical strength but still needs sealing
[08:40] <daveake> Also have a 3D-printed filler that was made for me
[08:41] <hopej> mattbrejza it sounds very unlikely that I would manage to stretch a hosepipe to fit over a 40mm diameter PVC pipe
[08:41] <mattbrejza> yea i was talking about the attachment at the other end
[08:42] <daveake> Shove pipe insulation inside the 40mm waste pipe, with the insulation a bit shorter than the pipe so you leave 5-10mm each end.
[08:42] <hopej> oh ok, the hosepip just fits easily over the gas canister adaptors that we have
[08:42] <daveake> Shove hose through that
[08:42] <daveake> Seal both ends with silicone bath seal
[08:43] <hopej> I may give that insulation a go.
[08:43] <daveake> Then apply copious amounts of gaffa tape :)
[08:43] <mattbrejza> remember its low pressure so you dont need to go over the top
[08:43] <daveake> yup
[08:43] <hopej> Spacer seems like an odd name for something that blocks off a pipe. I would imagine a space to be like a clip that hols the pie away from the wall
[08:43] <mattbrejza> if you put your hand over the balloon end, blow into the other, and cant hear any hissing then its fine
[08:46] <hopej> the time pressure is on now! We just got our approval to launch weekend after next
[08:47] <daveake> You're ahead of the game then; most seem to make the filler the day before launch :)
[08:48] <hopej> haha, I am still waiting for my D&T student to finish making the payload box!
[08:49] <hopej> He keeps coming to me with coding ideas and request to borry the raspberry pi to fiddle with the tracker
[08:49] <hopej> "IT WORKS ALREADY! GO MAKE THE BOX!"
[08:49] <hopej> good think I am apatient teacher.
[08:51] <hopej> Same I cannot type today!
[08:52] <hopej> *shame
[08:52] <hopej> god what is wrong with me?
[08:52] <hopej> https://www.amazon.co.uk/FloPlast-Push-Fit-Waste-Access-Black/dp/B00L24JLCG
[08:52] <hopej> Something like that would work, with a hole drilled through the middle to fit the hosepipe.
[08:54] <fsphil> this channel affects typing skill levels
[08:55] <LIERO> how do you measure the lift before detaching the hose?
[08:56] <craag> hopej: That is roughly what I've got, with a lot of epoxy to provide mechanical support to the hose!
[09:02] <daveake> LIERO: You get the balloon plus filler plus a weight neutrally balanced - i.e. balloon can just about lift the weight and filler
[09:02] <daveake> Where the target neck lift = that weight + weight of filler
[09:03] <daveake> See the neck lift and filling sections in http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1732
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[09:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6ZWR-11 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-11
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[09:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ6NLN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN_chase
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[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0610190 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0610190
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[10:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3930589 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3930589
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[10:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2240054 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2240054
[11:03] <fsphil> yay calling channel
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030485 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030485
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3740567 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3740567
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820405 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820405
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3650518 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3650518
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250537 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250537
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:56] <daveake> fsphil yay notice measured in weeks not minutes
[11:56] <daveake> And positive not negative
[11:58] <Ian_> :)
[12:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2520314 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2520314
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[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3610614 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3610614
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[13:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031901 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1901
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[13:30] <LIERO> daveake, thanks, I had to go
[13:31] <LIERO> I´ll check your article out after work :)
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[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4DDY-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4DDY-8
[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4DDY-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4DDY-13
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[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPACEPOET - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPACEPOET
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[14:54] <steve-ecs> hello habbers, I still intend to launch my balloon on saturday morning, but I am wondering how I can get the word out to track it. It hasn't appeared on the calendar yet
[14:55] <craag> Normally takes 24-48h for google to sync their calendar after the flight doc has been approved steve-ecs
[14:55] <craag> Have you sent an email to the mailing list?
[14:55] <steve-ecs> thanks
[14:55] <steve-ecs> I am not on the mailing list, so no
[14:55] <steve-ecs> can I sign up and do so...?
[14:55] <craag> then join it :)
[14:55] <craag> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas
[14:57] <steve-ecs> super. will do
[14:58] <craag> Send an email there, like the 'Launch Announcement's you see. It'll be held for a short while for a moderator to approve it, and then go out to everyone.
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[15:01] <PE2BZ> ecs 2-18 is on the tracker calendar now
[15:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0OTF-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OTF-11
[15:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0OTF-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OTF-12
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[15:03] <PE2BZ> steve-ecs do you plan to release the balloon at 03:30 UTC ?
[15:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KE0OTF-13 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OTF-13
[15:06] <steve-ecs> yes that's right
[15:07] <steve-ecs> early start and a macdonald's breakfast
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[15:12] <PE2BZ> I will set the antenna to UK friday evening and go to bed early. Maybe mother nature wakes me in time ;-)
[15:14] <PE2BZ> Usually I wake up around 6 local time so given that is has to raise a bit that might be a good time to try reception
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[17:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640431 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640431
[17:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3KXE-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3KXE-11
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[17:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2130426 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2130426
[18:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SpacePoet_chase_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SpacePoet_chase_chase
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[18:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SpacePoet_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SpacePoet_chase
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[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AB6UI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB6UI-11
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[19:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[20:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2933163 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2933163
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[21:06] <RocketBoy> hi danielsaul_alt
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[22:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-19 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-19
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[22:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028220 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028220
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4430244 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4430244
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820407 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820407
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250540 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250540
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3740568 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3740568
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140894 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140894
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0520798 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0520798
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640430 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640430
[23:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3541070 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3541070
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[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4810609 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4810609
[23:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850396 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850396
[23:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03QUB-Andrew_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=QUB-Andrew_chase
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