highaltitude.log.20180506

[00:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0310189 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0310189
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[00:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[02:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB05 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB05
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[03:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BCHAB1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BCHAB1
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[04:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4130452 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4130452
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[05:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P28 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P28
[05:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4640312 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4640312
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[06:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-17 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-17
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[06:25] <Bob_ZL1RS> looks like the GPS on my BB05 balloon is "having a bad hair day" :(
[06:26] <Bob_ZL1RS> I guess I am getting what I paid for (I paid $3 for it)
[06:27] <Mike-SA6BSS> ypu are using the chinese one?
[06:28] <Bob_ZL1RS> yes
[06:29] <Mike-SA6BSS> so its correct as Dave stated it have not altitude limitation built in, thats great!
[06:29] <Bob_ZL1RS> ATGM336H-5N
[06:29] <Bob_ZL1RS> spec sheets says good to 18km
[06:30] <Mike-SA6BSS> yep, thats it
[06:30] <Mike-SA6BSS> I belive he tested it up over 50000 with a gps simulator
[06:30] <Mike-SA6BSS> I bought a usb-vga adapter to test some gps with OSMO-FL2K
[06:31] <Mike-SA6BSS> I have the same gps soldered on the next flight going up
[06:32] <Bob_ZL1RS> I sent up 2 of these same GPS before with no problem, but they didn't travel as far as BB05
[06:33] <Mike-SA6BSS> BB05 have moste likley a long fligth ahead, great altitude!
[06:34] <Mike-SA6BSS> closing in on its firts lap :)
[06:34] <Bob_ZL1RS> don't put a bad spell on it :)
[06:34] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok, break a leg then :)
[06:35] <Bob_ZL1RS> tnx
[06:36] <Bob_ZL1RS> 0626 -13 0.6 10.140232 0 VE3OCL IM95 10 19548
[06:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> you receive it !! ?
[06:37] <Bob_ZL1RS> receiving U3B-17 from my antipode
[06:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> waht .. amazing!
[06:37] <Bob_ZL1RS> super signal today
[06:37] <Bob_ZL1RS> antipode propagation can be like that
[06:38] <Mike-SA6BSS> ha, having, my balloon raerly heard today, running a web sdr in S Korea to help it out
[06:39] <Bob_ZL1RS> another antipode example, W4HOD receiving BB05 now at 19,700km
[06:40] <Mike-SA6BSS> putting up wspr map...
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[06:43] <Mike-SA6BSS> slow loading map, but yeah, I see , cool!
[06:44] <Bob_ZL1RS> assuming he is not using a remote RX in VK but keeping his home locator
[06:44] <Mike-SA6BSS> ofc
[06:50] <Bob_ZL1RS> BSSWEBSDR :)
[06:50] <Mike-SA6BSS> yep
[06:50] <Bob_ZL1RS> the one in S Korea?
[06:50] <Mike-SA6BSS> receiving u3b17 telemetry on that reciver in hongkong
[06:51] <Mike-SA6BSS> sorry S.Korea
[06:51] <Bob_ZL1RS> wow, it is doing well
[06:52] <Mike-SA6BSS> dont know why its showing my grid, I have entered the loaction of the web sdr in wsjt-x
[06:54] <Bob_ZL1RS> says PM45 on WSPRnet
[06:54] <Bob_ZL1RS> that must be S Korea
[06:54] <Mike-SA6BSS> ha, and your ballon as well looking closer :)
[06:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> ahh, its your telemetry on ch 02
[06:58] <Bob_ZL1RS> yes
[07:00] <Mike-SA6BSS> have you tried activate gps checksum on the new gps:s ?
[07:01] <Mike-SA6BSS> I might have a look at that during the day
[07:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> bss13 been up for 36 days today, new personal best :)
[07:05] <Mike-SA6BSS> SA6BSS-9 aprs flight went for 35days
[07:10] <Bob_ZL1RS> no, I just soldered the thing in place of the 'old' ublox
[07:10] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok, let u know how it goes
[07:27] <Bob_ZL1RS> another bad GPS position
[07:27] <Bob_ZL1RS> been perfect until today
[07:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-18 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-18
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[07:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MILL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MILL_chase
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[07:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> I have quite some bad pos but in my case it comes of that I run the board at 4Mhz, seriel com does not like that :/
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[09:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PB0AHX after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB0AHX
[09:18] <trickv> woo, launch day
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[09:26] <G8FJG_Ron> Ben - PE2BZ ,,,Herman - PB0AHX saw your launch at about 120 mtrs via duct...gone now will have to wait
[09:27] <jarod> https://tracker.habhub.org doesn't show my receiver on the map anymore after loading dlfldigi, something new must be set?
[09:27] <PE2BZ> solar has had a crashed. panels could not withstand falling sunglasses....
[09:27] <G8FJG_Ron> :-) ;-(
[09:28] <jarod> what must i do to get on the map?
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[09:29] <G8FJG_Ron> DL Client...tick "on line"
[09:30] <jarod> it is
[09:30] <G8FJG_Ron> Config ...Operator call etc
[09:30] <jarod> all still the same last time it worked
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[09:31] <jarod> ah for some reason it was on GPS mode
[09:31] <G8FJG_Ron> are you decoding a flight?
[09:31] <G8FJG_Ron> ok
[09:32] <jarod> $$$PB0AHX,103,093139,52.01835,4.15679,1174,26,3.19,11,614,0,80*69FE
[09:32] <jarod> yeah
[09:32] <G8FJG_Ron> :-)
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[09:33] <jarod> ok, on the map now
[09:34] <jarod> didn't start hab mode first time, normal mode had enable gps on startup enabled....
[09:34] <jarod> ok ok
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[09:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOTOMA-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOTOMA-12
[09:44] <David-SM0ULC> climbing nice and steady :)
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[10:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PE2BZ after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ
[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HP - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HP
[10:09] <daveake> Just a test ^^^^^ don't ask for the frequency :)
[10:10] <David-SM0ULC> the HP?
[10:11] <David-SM0ULC> sim,lated flight?
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[10:11] <daveake> Simulated. Testing habpack.
[10:12] <David-SM0ULC> ah
[10:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
[10:18] <daveake> and that
[10:27] <G8FJG_Ron> seen from lift off $$PE2BZ,158,102714,56.00218,4,20460,44,23,3.2,9,1072,1,80*9F6
[10:28] <G8FJG_Ron> Ben ...only reds ...gone now
[10:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5FNQ-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5FNQ-11
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[10:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-12
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[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4130453 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4130453
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710576 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710576
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3630250 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3630250
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[11:24] <trickv> EAGLE and HL1 payloads are online, going to fill the balloon now and launch soon
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EAGLE after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EAGLE
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HL1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HL1
[11:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2410531 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2410531
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[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:42] <trickv> balloon inflated!
[11:43] <trickv> get your trackers ready...
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S23 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S23
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[11:47] <trickv> and were up!
[11:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5FNQ-12 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5FNQ-12
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[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CRAAG4 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CRAAG4
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[12:04] <PE2BZ> !flights
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03FloatSolarRS41 10(6b30), 03Regio18-on-air 10(166b), 03Eagle 10(2647), 03XABEN-128 10(0c61)
[12:04] <PE2BZ> !dial eagle
[12:04] <PE2BZ> !payload Eagle
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03RADIO_FLYER 10(2647) - 03Primary - 03434.65 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/570Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Callsigns: 03EAGLE, 03EAGLE
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[12:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3541074 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3541074
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[12:23] <PE2BZ> !payload HL1
[12:23] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03HL1 10(2647) 03$$HL1 - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/470Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[12:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Columbia_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Columbia_chase
[12:34] <Mike-SA6BSS> PE2BZ: iwhat of bobo or latex stil flying?
[12:35] <PE2BZ> Bobo´s flying without sonde
[12:36] <PE2BZ> Welll... Bobo went off, took the 1.5 sqr mm wire and the PCB batt - conector with it but left the RS41 10 m below
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[12:37] <PE2BZ> But ¨the other guy¨ was holding the rs41 with panels, waiting for a fix. He took a closer look at the solar panels and his sunglasses came off and dropped on the panels. 2 completely broken, 1 in 2 pieces, no luck....
[12:38] <bertrik> sorry to hear about such bad luck
[12:38] <PE2BZ> so atm only the Pawan 100 gram, 4 km above ¨calculated burst¨
[12:38] <Mike-SA6BSS> ah, darn!
[12:39] <PB0AHX> it was´ t me
[12:39] <PB0AHX> ben dit it
[12:40] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx very bad boy. I did where a cap and NO sunglasses :-P
[12:40] <PE2BZ> where ? wear ....
[12:41] <PB0AHX> mmmm bag through your chair Ben
[12:41] <PB0AHX> is a dutch joke
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[12:42] <PE2BZ> But the good part of it: The next RS41 I will try to run with 5 panels. In this kind of daylight it took a coat to get it off to restart it in the sun.
[12:43] <Darkside> PE2BZ: are you using batteries too?
[12:43] <Darkside> along with the panels
[12:44] <PE2BZ> Now I cutted off the panels, only batteries, but I try to fly only panels with no batteries. There is no need for a long flight with aprs coverage at 70 cm over here
[12:44] <Darkside> PE2BZ: what weight have you been able to get the RS41 down to?
[12:45] <PE2BZ> It was 30 gram with 6 panels 54 x 54 mm and a paper straw and hot glue
[12:45] <Darkside> just the bare PCB?
[12:45] <Darkside> no foam?
[12:45] <PE2BZ> indeed, bare pcb
[12:45] <Darkside> wow
[12:46] <PE2BZ> I did not cut the NFC coil off, as Mike did
[12:46] <Darkside> more surprised at using the bare PCB
[12:46] <Darkside> would have thought some insulation would be required
[12:46] <Darkside> or at least waterproofing
[12:47] <PE2BZ> Waterproofing would have helped because of the waterlanding ;-)
[12:47] <Darkside> hah
[12:47] <PE2BZ> I attached 2 batteries in a isolation bag and taped that to the radio chip.
[12:47] <Darkside> so what batteries are you using with the solar panels?
[12:47] <Darkside> are they being charged?
[12:49] <PE2BZ> I am planning to use a supercap with low internal resistance. Stefan (from Germany) found a nice type but with 35 Euro a piece ....
[12:49] <Darkside> hrm
[12:49] <Darkside> and you have the GPS in power save mode?
[12:49] <PE2BZ> Other batteries have quite some weight
[12:50] <PE2BZ> No, not al all
[12:50] <Darkside> as otherwise i note the entire board draws somethign like half a watt
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[12:50] <Darkside> ~140mA or so at 3V in
[12:51] <PE2BZ> That´s true but on solar I did not mind. The 54 x 54 mm panels give about 600 mA so the next I try 54 x 28 mm panels
[12:52] <Darkside> ok, interesting
[13:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> yeah, I have launched rtty only trackes running at 1,5v , so I just soldered in 3 solar cells n paralell with theenergizer lithium bat to get it 24h run for the 2 day it ran if it stil in range day three it ran fine on the solarcels
[13:10] <PE2BZ> Hmmm.. 3 solar cells, 1 Energize, 1 (5 gram) stepup converter.....
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[13:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[13:49] <trickv> landed...in the middle of a golf course?
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[13:51] <samfisher> hi, I have a question: how come amateurs can launch high altitude balloons? i understand that they are not remote controllable so what if an airplane hits one?
[13:53] <PE2BZ> For us, in Holland, rules are: smaller as 2 m diameter at sea level, payload max 2 kg and when heavier as 35 gram a parachute is required to have descent descend speed
[13:53] <PE2BZ> And no launch closer as 8 km to an airport
[13:54] <samfisher> so there are national laws regulating...
[13:54] <samfisher> anything regarding max distance travelled or altitude?
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[13:54] <PE2BZ> for us not....
[13:55] <PE2BZ> And we are minority compared to the > 100 EU radiosonde launches dai;y
[13:55] <samfisher> never launched one and I'd like to try it. any good tutoril?
[13:55] <samfisher> are they recoverable?
[13:56] <Mike-SA6BSS> http://www.daveakerman.com/?page_id=1228
[13:56] <samfisher> thank you
[13:57] <Mike-SA6BSS> if you go for an up/down they are, there are predictors so they dont land in the sea, but always a calculated risk you lose them
[13:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> if you lauch a gopro probaly shouls stick two trackers on them and a gsm tracker
[13:58] <buzz53> Assuming everybody isn't fed up tracking HABS today, we are hoping to launch another shortly from near Ipswich.
[13:59] <buzz53> It's for antenna comparative tests so would appreciate any reports.
[13:59] <buzz53> First packge using monopole antenna, 434.6MHz JOAL04: RTTY 300,n,7,2 JOAL05: LoRa Mode 1
[13:59] <buzz53> Second package using sleeve dipole, 434.5MHz JOAL06: RTTY 300,n,7,2 JOAL07: LoRa Mode 1
[13:59] <buzz53> No pictures today, sorry! Probably not very high either as it's sub 2m.
[13:59] <buzz53> TIA Buzz & John
[14:02] <PE2BZ> buzz53 shortly as in the next hour ?
[14:04] <buzz53> Hi, one hour if all goes well, two at most
[14:04] <PE2BZ> My payloads both hit the water (as expected) so I will wire the yagi to the Lora receivers.
[14:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[14:07] <buzz53> Great thanks. It will be very high angle from us with this wind so a longer range report would be good.
[14:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG5IFR after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5IFR
[14:09] <buzz53> Sorry, just realised RTTY for both JOAL payloads will be 300,N,8,2 of course, not 7 bit as I said before#
[14:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0LDZ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0LDZ-11
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[14:14] <g8fjg> buzz53 both in air at same time or second one up when other down?
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL05 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL05
[14:16] <buzz53> Both together, hoping to get comparison of the antennas.
[14:16] <g8fjg> ok
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL04 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL04
[14:21] <PE2BZ> Both on one balloon ?
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-9
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[14:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-7
[14:32] <trickv> easiest recovery ever: payload was in a fairway. staff moved it to the side for me.
[14:32] <PE2BZ> trickv nice one :-)
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[14:41] <buzz53> PE2BZ: yes, lots of string and sticky tape!
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[14:43] <PE2BZ> That should work :-) But is necessary to compare antenna´s, to be on the same position and altitude :-)
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[14:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
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[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL07 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL07
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[14:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL06 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL06
[15:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kingf451_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kingf451_chase
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[15:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-12mw - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-12mw
[15:46] <PE2BZ> That´s the RS41 with 6 panels 54 x 28 mm :-)
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[16:39] <PE2G> !flights
[16:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Current flights: 03FloatSolarRS41 10(6b30), 03Regio18-on-air 10(166b), 03Eagle 10(2647), 03XABEN-128 10(0c61)
[16:39] <PE2BZ> Ik zie op 434.500 300bd rtty Frits
[16:39] <PE2G> Ook op 434.600?
[16:40] <PE2BZ> Daar hoor ik niks
[16:41] <PE2BZ> Toch wel, met de lopger richting UK zie ik daar ook signaal
[16:41] <PE2G> OK, tnx, then I leave LoRa running on 434.6
[16:41] <PE2BZ> rtty 434.598
[16:42] <PE2G> R
[16:45] <PE2BZ> $$JOAL06,369,6:44:53,42.17186,1.03878,06822,2,5,1<112,6.38,0.0,0.0,0<.0*3BD7
[16:47] <PE2G> JOAL06 on 434.5?
[16:48] <PE2BZ> rgr
[16:50] <PE2BZ> Can someone confirm the lora frequency / modes ?
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[16:55] <g8fjg> buzz53 here are my results for what they're worth
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[16:56] <g8fjg> J4 -124dbm with deep qsb J6 -121dbm steady
[16:57] <PE2BZ> ron Lora mode 1 as mentioned ?
[16:57] <g8fjg> J5 snr 3 J7 snr 6 same antenna thro 3db split
[16:58] <g8fjg> yep .603 and .506 here
[16:58] <PE2BZ> tnx
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[17:03] <PE2BZ> Joal 06 @434.500 is about 6 dB c/n better over here as Joal04 @434.600 with a vertical Logper
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[17:06] <PE2BZ> PE2G I would put my money on the 434.500 LoRa
[17:07] <PE2BZ> 434.600 is almost gone from waterfall
[17:07] <PE2G> Yes, I'm on 434.5 now
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3650571 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3650571
[17:09] <buzz53> Thanks so far gents, interesting. JOAL4/5 locally, at high angle, is about 3dB stronger than JOAL 6/7
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[17:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03joal_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=joal_chase
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[17:18] <PE2BZ> Not good....
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[17:21] <PE2BZ> Seems it has restarted succesfully
[17:23] <PE2G> PE2BZ: any rx on LoRa?
[17:24] <PE2BZ> 1 second ago my first at 434.506 MHz (that´s button d 5 times)
[17:25] <PE2BZ> 17:23:59 Ch1: $$JOAL07,16,00:00:00,0.00000,0.00000,00000,0,0,0,-23.2,6.38,0.0,0.0,0,0.0*9317
[17:26] <PE2BZ> or f to toggle AFC
[17:26] <PE2G> Do you keep freq set to 434.500?
[17:27] <PE2G> In LoRa I mean
[17:28] <PE2BZ> I did not change the settings in gateway.txt but with the d button you can tune up 1 kHz and with c you can tune down 1 khz. I tuned up to 434.506 and then pressed f to set AFC
[17:28] <PE2G> Tnx
[17:31] <PE2BZ> buzz53 with the same antenna with splitter to 2 LoRa modules I got 2 packets @434.505 MHz and zero @434.600 MHz
[17:34] <buzz53> Great information, thanks, please listen if you can as it descends, off now in the car!
[17:35] <PE2BZ> good luck !
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[17:43] <PE2BZ> pe2g joal05 434.595 MHz
[17:44] <PE2G> R
[17:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9GNL-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9GNL-11
[17:46] <PE2BZ> at lower elevation the JOAL05 works better over here, at higher elevation the Joal07 wins
[17:48] <PE2G> Nothing on .595 here
[17:49] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/vhPCHez
[17:49] <PE2BZ> the wide signal between the 2 rtty transmissions is the LoRA signal
[17:50] <PE2BZ> PE2G with or without preamp ?
[17:50] <PE2G> w/o
[17:50] <PE2BZ> That´s better for the LoRa modules
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[19:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710573 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710573
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[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IU2JWG - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IU2JWG
[19:17] <samfisher> how come U3B-18 took of in US and is almost landing perfectly in GB? is it controlled somehow? good calculations?
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[19:17] <Mike-SA6BSS> landing?? most of the us flights come in over UK
[19:18] <Mike-SA6BSS> maby not most but many of the flights
[19:19] <samfisher> why?
[19:19] <samfisher> currents or are they manned somehow?
[19:20] <samfisher> i think not remote controlled but does something corrects their trajectory?
[19:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB05 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB05
[19:21] <Mike-SA6BSS> no, it folows the wind
[19:21] <daveake> Doesn't look like it's landing. Just a regular floater following the winds at that altitude.
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[19:23] <Mike-SA6BSS> you look for two things mainly when relesing a balloon, calm winds as the the whole tracker thing is 10-12m long and Im looking (probably for Dave as well relesed u3b-17/18) not winds that take it to the northpoole
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[19:24] <samfisher> I so need to make a baloon and transport myself to China
[19:25] <Mike-SA6BSS> or just build one and relese one from your porch
[19:25] <Mike-SA6BSS> and see where the wind takes it ;)
[19:27] <samfisher> well, i don't want to see where it will go. i want to know exactly where. north korea would be nice. i want to see with my own eyes if it's as bad as they say
[19:28] <Mike-SA6BSS> strnagely many of the balloons just love crossing over The korea peninsula
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[19:29] <samfisher> didn't know that but it gives me chills. i could spread manifestos or something
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[19:32] <Mike-SA6BSS> You can just go there for a vacation, but probably better places to visit :)
[19:36] <samfisher> was there any ballon that landed in dprk?
[19:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> dprk?
[19:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> ah, never mind
[19:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> not to my knowledge
[19:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> sems a bit obsessed with Korea :)
[19:38] <samfisher> not exactly, i know you can travel there, they'll show you just small parts of it. doesn't seems to bad but i really want to see rural areas
[19:39] <Mike-SA6BSS> yeah, not many that can say they visited that country, hopefully things works out and that open the boarder soon
[19:43] <samfisher> i don't know if average north korean would afford to travel outside even if allowed, but i think every computer would have dozens of people in front of it if they will have internet access. we're fortunate to have so much access to knowledge
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[19:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Tjena Mike
[19:54] <Mike-SA6BSS> hi Brian
[19:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Getting the Göteburg sonde most days now
[19:57] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok,
[19:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> emailed la3eq, he told me they launch from stavanger 11:10 and 23:10 UTC on 401.000
[19:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Havent seen it yet though
[19:57] <Mike-SA6BSS> there is a predictor running showing the predicted landing 7 days ahead
[19:57] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://imgur.com/0c9ahR7
[19:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> Im just to the left of 6 Falköping
[19:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> right taht is
[19:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Vårgårda, thats the antenna i have on 2m :-)
[19:59] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok, cool, thats not to far from here
[19:59] <Mike-SA6BSS> and thats where they make those antenna
[19:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> cool. not sure if that brand is still around
[19:59] <Mike-SA6BSS> I see the sign when passing by
[20:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh should be then :-)
[20:00] <samfisher> you guys are from sweden?
[20:00] <Mike-SA6BSS> I
[20:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> close by, Denmark
[20:01] <samfisher> nice. and you talk to eachother by ham radio ?
[20:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> well not realy, but it should be possible though
[20:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> we have not so far, I did hear Brian do a test cw tx once when the conditions where good on 2m
[20:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> and He usuly rx my balloons I send up
[20:02] <samfisher> ha, awesome
[20:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> and you where somewher in Skåne /
[20:04] <samfisher> me?
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[20:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> yeah?
[20:04] <samfisher> nope, i'm in Romania
[20:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> aha, ok
[20:06] <Mike-SA6BSS> Il better go sit with the wife for a moment and watch TV bbl
[20:07] <samfisher> see ya
[20:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> So your also close to Skövde. That was a good 6m beacon :-)
[20:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> The TV xmit thats is
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[20:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> yes, skövdes old TV1 tx on 55Mhz, nowdays everything is digital, dont think they use that freq for anyting now
[20:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> but that might change
[20:39] <Matt|home> question.. for long-distance communication, like say you wanted to correct a course that a rocket is on and it's very high altitude at the moment
[20:39] <Matt|home> what do amateurs use for that.. some radio transmission or what
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[20:41] <Matt|home> i assume it is possible to have 2-way communications long-distance without the use of big satellites on the ground? or not really
[20:46] <Mike-SA6BSS> as long there is LOS betwen them it should work
[20:47] <Mike-SA6BSS> habs commonly sens cutdown commands to the payload
[20:48] <Matt|home> line of sight?
[20:48] <Mike-SA6BSS> yes
[20:48] <Matt|home> over radio?
[20:48] <Mike-SA6BSS> correct
[20:49] <Matt|home> do you need like a super powerful transmitter?
[20:50] <Mike-SA6BSS> no, probaly a couple of watts and a directional antenna
[20:50] <Matt|home> i ask because im genuinely curious what the feasibility is of an amateur building a guided rocket, it's something i'd like to try. im just not familiar with rocketry
[20:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> quite a few dropping rc planed from balloons and fly them back, you might find something you are looking for there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBnurznFio
[20:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> that YT is just an example
[20:59] <Matt|home> ty
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[21:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[21:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031901 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1901
[21:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031900 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1900
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[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SH05 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SH05
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[22:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SH04 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SH04
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[22:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Harry1234_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Harry1234_chase
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[22:57] <hyde00001> On the off chance there are any admins around... I've requested approval of a flight document in #habhub for Monday. Appreciate its a bit last minute, but it would be great if someone could approve it. Many thanks..
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4430072 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4430072
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710546 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710546
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710574 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710574
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250736 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250736
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3630225 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3630225
[23:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2410536 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2410536
[23:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0420731 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0420731
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[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0310203 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0310203
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