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[00:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA7URC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA7URC-11
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[00:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0340070 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0340070
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[00:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2510346 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2510346
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[02:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[07:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[08:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[09:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-9 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-9
[09:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> woo, made over Atlantic, if it gets close its on rtty 100b 7n2 on 144.600
[09:39] <fsphil> aww missed me :)
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[11:11] <digitalboy> Hi guys, we are following this link (https://ukhas.org.uk/_detail/guides:ntx2_eqn.gif) since we are utilizing Arduino which outputs 3.3v we would like to change the resistance values for R3 R4 R5. First we tried to calculate TXDlow and TXDhigh in the 5V case just to check if the formulas are correct. Anyway by substituting the provided valuss in the tutorial we saw that TXDlow and TXDhigh are different from the ones stated
[11:13] <Darkside> my suggestion would be to give it a go and see what tone shift you end up with
[11:14] <Darkside> remembering you can adjust the spacing in fldigi to suit
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0810334 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0810334
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1053881 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1053881
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710261 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710261
[11:24] <fsphil> another 12z. this is becoming a habit
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2620057 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2620057
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03FOOL2 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FOOL2
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[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0320050 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0320050
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[12:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9GAA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9GAA
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[12:47] <pb0ahx> Fool2 is frozen i think
[12:49] <PE2BZ> At the moment I assume the GPS has got stuck with overvoltage. The Atmel can run between 3 and 5 volt but the GPS has it´s limit at 3.6 Volt which I thought would work with 6 panels of 0.5 V each
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[13:07] <g8fjg> PE2BZ Ben must be over 7km now looking at my rx sig easy decode difficult to track ;-)
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[13:07] <g8fjg> and sun must have set
[13:08] <g8fjg> and its risen
[13:09] <PE2BZ> $$$FOOL2,749,13:09:11,5258980,4.50575,9102,0,4568,-55,68,71,2,0,0,0*B31E
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-14 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-14
[13:31] <PE2BZ> -52 degrees for the Uccle sonde at 10500 meter so I must be lower than that
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[13:47] <PE2BZ> g8fjg any possiblility that you would receive it when at 4200 m above sea level ?
[13:47] <PE2BZ> literally that is :-)
[13:49] <g8fjg> not the at the level I have now
[13:50] <g8fjg> I need 7km for 300km range
[13:50] <g8fjg> must be 350k from me now
[13:51] <g8fjg> so thats over 10k altitude
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[13:51] <PE2BZ> I am trying to ¨sync¨ the temperature to the Uccle flight but that makes no sense it seems
[13:51] <g8fjg> but the temp at -18 looks like 4.7k alytitude today ??
[13:51] <PE2BZ> but only -18 degrees at 10 km altitude ?
[13:52] <PE2BZ> It must be burning :-)
[13:53] <PE2BZ> Temperatures of -51 has been shown, and 9 km altitude. So I supposed that at -18 degrees it should be a lot lower
[13:54] <PE2BZ> Strange things happen in Electronics @ highaltitude
[13:55] <g8fjg> looking at this https://www.ventusky.com/london -18 is 4.5k ish
[13:56] <g8fjg> 9k is -58 ish
[13:56] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/R3bFb
[13:56] <PE2BZ> That´s the predictor, so it might be closer as you expect ?
[13:58] <g8fjg> your sig has gone up 3db in last 15mins
[13:58] <Darkside> g8fjg: dont forget that those temperatures are goign to be measured with an actual atmospheric temp sensor
[13:58] <Darkside> not whatever PE2BZ is using, which will have lag, and will probably not be as accurate as a real radiosonde sensor
[13:58] <g8fjg> was -103 dbm with me ...now gone
[13:58] <Darkside> unless PE2BZ has figured out how to use the RS41's temp sensor and isn't telling us >_>
[13:58] <PE2BZ> Hoping for reset with new gps fix :-)
[13:59] <g8fjg> Darkside I'll have to read up on that
[13:59] <PE2BZ> Darkside this is not an RS41 :-)
[13:59] <Darkside> so yeah, the temp sensor reading will not match a reading taken by a radiosonde
[14:00] <Darkside> it will probably lag, and won't get anywhere near as low
[14:00] <PE2BZ> as low as ?
[14:00] <Darkside> as low as what the radiosonde will report
[14:01] <Darkside> as the radiosonde is reporting temperature of the air
[14:01] <Darkside> and your sensor is reporting the temperature of the sensor, plus whatever is coupled to it :P
[14:01] <PE2BZ> Is this http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/ no longer updating ?
[14:05] <PE2BZ> Lowest temperature reported by the CPU temperature measurement of the Arduino is -51 degrees
[14:06] <Darkside> and i doubt the temp reporting will be linear down that low either
[14:07] <PE2BZ> the arduino was mounted at the bottom of a ¨board¨ from foam with the solar panels on top of that
[14:08] <g8fjg> afk for a while
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[14:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[14:20] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
[14:37] <PE2BZ> Given the temperatures at ventusky (thanks for that link Ron !) I notice that -16 degrees corresponds with 3600 meter above the seawater.
[14:37] <PE2BZ> That means it´s under de clouds and could be floating but not having enough light to power on.
[14:37] <PE2BZ> So we wait....
[14:54] <Mike-SA6BSS> i scan the freq tp
[14:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> tomorrow morning,
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[15:29] <PE2BZ> thats great :-)
[15:37] <PE2BZ> My balloon needed > 4 minutes to decide to go up or down....
[15:38] <PE2BZ> If you have patience and 2.5 GB disk space
[15:38] <PE2BZ> http://37.72.97.164/~sanjasp/Files/2018-03-30/DJI_0099.MP4
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[16:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LU7AA-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU7AA-4
[16:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RS_N1033657 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1033657
[16:50] <Ian__> Nice flight Ben. The balloon certainly wasn't rushing to gain altitude.
[16:53] Nick change: Ian__ -> Ian_
[16:54] Nick change: Ian_ -> Guest12698
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[16:59] <PE2BZ> Thanks Ian. The balloon was rushing my blood pressure for the first minutes....
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[17:13] <Guest12698> I can well imagine. There must have been a few downdraughts around those buildings.
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[17:15] <PE2BZ> Indeed. I am wondering if next time I´d better pick up the bottle of HE and drive to a flat area. However there are some tall buildings around...
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[17:16] <Guest12698> You gave it a good height for the launch, probably as good as it gets.
[17:17] <bertrik> did something bad happen to a HAB?
[17:18] <bertrik> when we launched one at the hacker space (years ago), we did a few trial launches with regular small (20 cm or so) balloons, to see if they stayed clear of trees
[17:18] <Guest12698> No, the video at [16:38] ^^ just seemed to be a reluctant riser
[17:19] <Guest12698> At first
[17:20] <bertrik> Guest12698: can you repost the video link?
[17:22] <bertrik> I think if you have too much lift, it'll burst sooner/at lower altitude
[17:22] <Guest12698> [16:38] <PE2BZ> http://37.72.97.164/~sanjasp/Files/2018-03-30/DJI_0099.MP4
[17:22] <bertrik> thanks
[17:24] <Guest12698> It's Ian_ I got rid of and extra _ and failed to re-ident in time so have to wait for Ian_ to time out - I think it might be an hour or so . . . Grrrr. I can't be bothered researching how to flush it faster.
[17:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1033712 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1033712
[17:24] <PE2BZ> Calculated over the time between 985 m and 9102 m we had 1.67 m/s
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[17:26] <PE2BZ> But it was a cheap balloon, 120 cm diameter when filled with air without bursting, bought as 47 inch, but the weight of those balloons is only 27 gram where the HY-30 or the totex 30 gram burst at either 88 cm or 110 cm
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[17:56] <PE2BZ> bertrik Yesterday I did receive a video from the 2013 launch from Herman :-)
[17:57] <PE2BZ> HABANERO2
[17:58] <bertrik> yeah, I think that was ours (costyn's actually)
[17:59] <bertrik> https://revspace.nl/HAB_launch
[18:01] <PE2BZ> Wow ! Nice panorama views !
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[18:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4TEC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4TEC_chase
[18:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0QHQ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0QHQ_chase
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[18:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9GAA after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9GAA
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[20:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TA9OHC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA9OHC-11
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[22:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-14 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-14
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0750730 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0750730
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710264 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710264
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1333235 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1333235
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2020127 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2020127
[23:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2410493 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2410493
[23:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1253058 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1253058
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