highaltitude.log.20180329

[00:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4820021 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4820021
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[00:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4430250 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4430250
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[01:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-14 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-14
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[02:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4TEC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4TEC_chase
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[05:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SV3CIX-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX-11
[05:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4820058 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4820058
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[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4620250 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4620250
[06:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9GAA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9GAA
[06:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-3 after 0310 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-3
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[08:18] <VPK> 9e1303d22c4e0fa466d4501afe71fb02
[08:18] <Darkside> VPK: i suspect you should be in #habhub
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[08:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VPK-kosmos - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VPK-kosmos
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[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03FOOL2 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FOOL2
[09:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4710147 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4710147
[09:30] Action: PE2BZ sends note to self: If you program a tracker with software to read the fuses donĀ“t expect it to start transmitting when you put it in the roof in full sun
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[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F5FJA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F5FJA-11
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[10:32] <garymortimer> Anyone know what freq SITs is on?
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[10:37] <daveake> The great unanswered question
[10:37] <Darkside> !flights
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Darkside: There are no flights currently :(
[10:37] <Darkside> who would have guessed
[10:37] <daveake> heh you're optimistic there
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[10:38] <daveake> Generally we don't get info like that garymortimer unless they have trouble receiving themselves
[10:39] <garymortimer> A friend of mine took video of the take off so I am interested in seeing if I can hear it!
[10:39] <daveake> Then it's "We've launched a balloon and don't know where it is can you help?"
[10:39] <garymortimer> OIC
[10:39] <garymortimer> I will tune my friend then to tell them!
[10:40] <garymortimer> I don't know the area it is in for pubs!
[10:40] <daveake> Asking SITS to let us know in advance is like flogging a dead horse
[10:40] <fsphil> an area you don't know the pubs? *sits down*
[10:41] <garymortimer> No its very far North of Watford and I understand there be dragons up there
[10:41] <garymortimer> I see the landing prediction has gone from the map.
[10:42] <garymortimer> Only them tracking it, so they might need help!
[10:42] <fsphil> you'd think that
[10:44] <daveake> So, garymortimer, how's the "Good Pub Overlay" going for SNUS? :)
[10:45] <garymortimer> Well I never see any feedback photos from glorious retrieves! I will be over there for Farnborough in July so need to go chasing myself!
[10:48] <daveake> Might be possible :)
[10:48] <daveake> Not sure if Farnborough's exclusion zone reaches this far - probably not
[10:49] <garymortimer> Its always quite a bit of sky
[10:49] <daveake> Certainly affected me at the previous house
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[10:54] <garymortimer> This is cool (slightly off topic) https://youtu.be/m3nP7CuaQlk
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[10:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 0318 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
[11:02] <garymortimer> I have given up trying to hear SITS, have to do some work, blast. Happy Easter all
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[11:16] <ian_> Happy Easter garymortimer. There seemed to be hope, but after a while the new guy was indoctrinated. So we are BARCing up the wrong tree there.
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0810313 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0810313
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2420660 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2420660
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2410439 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2410439
[11:23] <fsphil> woo, 12z launch
[11:24] <fsphil> shame it'll probably be a wet landing, it's quite close
[11:24] <ian_> Get out the tadpole net extention :)
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[11:28] <fsphil> oooh this could be very close to the shore
[11:28] <udat> at least with the lough this side the tide goes out extending the land a bit sometimes ;)
[11:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1253032 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1253032
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0320079 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0320079
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[11:40] <fsphil> wow, crazy altitudes
[11:40] <fsphil> it's very slowly dropping
[11:41] <fsphil> only got to 5.5km
[11:41] <Darkside> leaky balloon?
[11:41] <fsphil> about -3m/s
[11:41] <fsphil> quite quick for a leak
[11:42] <fsphil> -2m/s now
[11:44] <fsphil> wonder if the little plastic valve failed
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[11:53] <fsphil> might still make it to dry land
[11:53] <fsphil> hmm or not, it's falling faster now
[12:07] <fsphil> made it
[12:07] <fsphil> will head out for that later
[12:11] <Darkside> that should be a nice easy recovery
[12:11] <fsphil> any idea how long the batteries last in the rs41s?
[12:12] <fsphil> the one I found was the next day and it was dead by then
[12:12] <Darkside> i've had one last around 10 hours
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[12:12] <Darkside> however if they get a shock on landing, the battery connections can bounce, and they stop transmitting
[12:12] <Darkside> as they need a press of the power button to start up
[12:13] <fsphil> I'm going to guess the entire balloon came down with this, so it should be easy to spot
[12:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB05 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB05
[12:30] <daveake> Looks like SITS may have landed in Wakefield town centre. In a park.
[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0810336 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0810336
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[12:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
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[13:11] <Darkside> OLHZN: what temp sensors did you use to gather data for the temp trace you posted to twitter?
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[13:29] <daveake> There's always hope for lost HABs ... (not a HAB) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43579098
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[15:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL6AL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL6AL_chase
[15:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[15:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KMR4GO-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KMR4GO-1
[15:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4RGO-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4RGO-2
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[16:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03vpk-kosmos_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=vpk-kosmos_chase
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[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M5013495 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M5013495
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[17:46] <chris_99> https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/29/as-uk-fires-up-private-space-industry-space-camp-accelerator-launches/
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[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Stefano_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Stefano_chase
[18:37] <fsphil> found it, https://i.imgur.com/Lcz0Ymq.jpg
[18:37] <fsphil> and the entire balloon https://i.imgur.com/hYy9Bgo.jpg
[18:39] <fsphil> https://i.imgur.com/olgUmu0.jpg
[18:40] <fsphil> wonder if they're using hydrogen now
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[18:46] <bertrik> nice photos
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[20:02] <ian_> Congrats on the neat recovery.
[20:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RCMGB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RCMGB_chase
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[21:04] <drohan> If I were using a Yagi antenna and pointing it at a HAB payload
[21:04] <drohan> Would I need to invest in an antenna tracker?
[21:04] <drohan> Or would handheld pointing in the general direction suffice?
[21:07] <ian_> For the most part you would be far enough away to probably point in a fixed duration for most, if not all of the flight. So no rotator necessary.
[21:08] <ian_> That said, a number of receiving stations have automatic setups which pick up the position of various HABs and point in their general or specific directions to make unattended operation possible.
[21:09] <mfa298> I guess it might depend on how the yagi is used, if it's mounted at a base station on a chimney then you probably want a rotator
[21:09] <mfa298> for a chase car then manual pointing is probably easier
[21:13] <ian_> Yes, Dave, I believe, sets his antenna up for a flight and doesn't adjust it, but he does loft it with a puff of air at the start of operations. Ben and pals in Holland are far enough away that their 10 degree beamwidth (or thereabouts) pretty much covers the essential part of the UK without any requirement for moving. Often gets confused with a crane as does some of his rx signals :)
[21:14] <drohan> Got it
[21:14] <drohan> Thanks all, good to know
[21:17] <ian_> If you have a final position, on the ground, then the only use for a yagi then is to locate the HAB in a 4ft high crop in the final 50m . . .
[21:17] <SIbot4> In real units: 4 ft = 1.22 m
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[21:19] <ian_> There is a lot of room to hide in a field of OSRape, wheat or whatever. It's a whole new world that isn't there during the winter, when you come to think about it. Plenty of room for animals and HABs to hide.
[21:19] <drohan> Right, the yagi is for some higher-bandwith applications we're planning to test
[21:20] <ian_> Fair comment - I remember; shooting down your HAB (in a manner of speaking) :)
[21:21] <ian_> Sounds more exciting than a cutdown as there is no cutdown control lobby anywhere that I know of.
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[21:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
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[22:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RS_N1033657 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1033657
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0750827 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0750827
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2010236 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2010236
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640577 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640577
[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2410509 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2410509
[23:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1253062 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1253062
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