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[00:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1740016 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1740016
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[01:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1173861 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1173861
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[06:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1730606 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1730606
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[07:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4810436 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4810436
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[08:21] <Darkside> dbrooke: your change is merged in
[08:22] <Darkside> dbrooke: now we need everyone to update
[08:22] <Darkside> fsphil: please git pull
[08:22] <fsphil> ok i pull git thanks
[08:23] <fsphil> what's new, other than the prefix?
[08:25] <Darkside> depends when you last updated!
[08:25] <Darkside> possibly some logging changes
[08:25] <fsphil> that's.. true
[08:25] <Darkside> and some timeout fixes
[08:25] <fsphil> logging to kml certainly
[08:28] <Darkside> well its a script to convert a log file to kml
[08:28] <Darkside> it doesnt log to kml
[08:28] <Darkside> now we need to get the word out...
[08:31] <fsphil> udat: ^^
[08:40] <Darkside> so hopefully in a week or so we will be able to filter out radiosonde easily
[08:41] <Darkside> and i'd almost suggest having the filter for !RS_ be on by default
[08:45] <fsphil> agreed
[08:46] <fsphil> it's a bit much
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[08:47] <fsphil> hmm, must see if I can make it easier to Ctrl+C it :)
[08:47] <Darkside> i accept pull requests!
[08:48] <Darkside> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiLkz2LHicA&feature=youtu.be
[08:48] <Darkside> watching yourself give a talk is always horrible
[08:50] <Darkside> terrible screen for slides
[08:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK6FEEE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK6FEEE_chase
[09:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S22 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S22
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[09:14] <udat> updated
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[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IZ11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZ11
[09:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
[09:52] <dbrooke> Darkside: OK, I've let Ron know
[09:53] <Darkside> cheers
[09:53] <Darkside> and thanks for the PR :-)
[09:55] <dbrooke> no worries, turned out to be quite easy even though I've not done much python
[09:58] <Darkside> :-)
[09:58] <Darkside> its not particularly hard
[10:01] <dbrooke> I should probably use it more but I tend to go straight to C due to familiarity even where python would probably be more appropriate
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[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-3
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[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JOAL05 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL05
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[10:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4840136 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4840136
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[10:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSLORA1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA1
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1143557 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1143557
[11:17] <Mike-SA6BSS> sits3 on 434.365
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2420665 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2420665
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430369 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430369
[11:21] <Darkside> now we see who listened :-)
[11:21] <fsphil> hah
[11:22] <fsphil> I just noticed mine seems to be ignoring min and max freq
[11:22] <fsphil> guess it's not loading the config at all
[11:22] <Darkside> hrm
[11:22] <Darkside> oh you might need to re-do the config then
[11:22] <Darkside> depending on how long ago you last updated, the config file format may have changed a bit
[11:23] <fsphil> yeah just going through it now
[11:24] <fsphil> yeah, "no section: 'sdr'"
[11:24] <Darkside> yep
[11:24] <Darkside> i've changed that to make it easier to experiment with alternatives to rtl_fm and rtl_power
[11:25] <Darkside> basically if you can make a drop-in replacement utility for rtl_fm and rtl_power (with the same command line options!) then you can replace the paths in the config file to use them
[11:28] <Darkside> fsphil: hows your PHP...
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2430369 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2430369
[11:30] <Darkside> aha
[11:30] <fsphil> pretty good, sadly
[11:30] <Darkside> so thats someone new in melbourne
[11:31] <fsphil> no 12z launch here
[11:31] <fsphil> they're quite rare
[11:31] <Darkside> so im wondering if its possible to make the predictor on the tracker use a certain set of parameters based on the 'RS_' on the callsign
[11:31] <fsphil> that shouldn't be too hard
[11:31] <Darkside> i.e. use 5m/s ascent, 26.5km burst, 6m/s descent
[11:31] <Darkside> which is about typical for these sondes
[11:31] <fsphil> use a regex for the callsign comparison
[11:31] <Darkside> more typical than 30km anyway
[11:31] <fsphil> lemme look
[11:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0143557 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0143557
[11:47] <Darkside> sigh, RS92 glitches
[11:47] <Darkside> mwheeler: ^
[11:47] <Darkside> its still happening :<
[11:48] <mwheeler> Workaround - stop launching RS92s :P
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[11:49] <mwheeler> I wish it was Christmas time again when I had time to hack on this stuff :(
[11:49] <mwheeler> I have a feeling I will have even less time soon
[11:49] <mwheeler> and too many projects
[11:49] <mwheeler> I'll probably prioritize weekends for chasing RS41s because I really want to get that firmware dumped
[11:52] <Darkside> cool
[11:52] <Darkside> im pleased with how well the demod is working here
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[11:53] <Darkside> i tracked a RS41 pretty much down to teh ground, on the other side of the gulf this morning
[11:53] <Darkside> and a friends brothers, who was holidaying in Stansbury, went and picked it up for me :D
[11:53] <Darkside> it was about 20m from the last position
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[12:02] <fsphil> Darkside: yeah that was quite simple, "/^RS_N[0-9]+/" is 26.5km, 5m/s up and 6m/s down
[12:02] <Darkside> hrm
[12:02] <Darkside> it wont always be N
[12:02] <fsphil> aah
[12:03] <fsphil> RS_ the only certain part?
[12:03] <Darkside> https://www.vaisala.com/sites/default/files/documents/Vaisala%20Radiosonde%20RS41%20Serial%20Number.pdf
[12:04] <fsphil> ooooh the serial number is in the boom. that explains why it has so many traces, must be an IC in there
[12:04] <Darkside> nah
[12:04] <Darkside> don tthink so
[12:05] <buzz53> If anybody's interested, shortly launching kamikaze test flight into North Sea from Ipswich
[12:05] <fsphil> updated that to "/^RS_[A-Z][0-9]+/"
[12:05] <buzz53> JOAL04 434.6 RTTY 300 baud interleaved with JOAL05 also 434.6 LoRa mode 1
[12:06] <Darkside> fsphil: cool :D
[12:06] <Vostok> "Internal use"
[12:06] <fsphil> lol
[12:07] <fsphil> shouldn't be on a website then :p
[12:07] <fsphil> buzz53: what are you flying?
[12:10] <buzz53> Sub-2 metre test, pi Zero based payload, no camera today as it's a one-way mission
[12:11] <craag> Farnham lora rx tuned in, but might be out of range.
[12:12] <fsphil> too far for me
[12:12] <cm13g09> This may entertain the programmers in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snr113r5ocY&feature=youtu.be (turned up in my Twitter feed)
[12:13] <daveake> Ah, I've been trying to find that with audio :)
[12:13] <Darkside> craag: have you done ISS HamTV stuff?
[12:13] <cm13g09> daveake: lol
[12:14] <daveake> lol @ segault then it stops :)
[12:14] <craag> Darkside: Yes, rather a lot :)
[12:14] <daveake> +f
[12:14] <cm13g09> it's the "Manage your memory, with malloc and free" that tickled me....
[12:14] <Darkside> craag: whats the most minimalistic setup youv'e seen work?
[12:15] <fsphil> watch someone elses through a window
[12:15] <craag> 30cm dish, helix feed with lna, minitiouner with serit tuner
[12:15] <Darkside> jeez
[12:15] <Darkside> really
[12:16] <Darkside> i was thinking of setting up maybe with a 24 dBi wifi dish, and one of the 13cm to l-band downconverters from kuhne
[12:16] <Darkside> and probably a minitiouner
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[12:18] <craag> sounds good
[12:18] <Darkside> hrm
[12:18] <Darkside> need to be a BATC member to buy minitiouner bits?
[12:18] <craag> I use a 1.2m, helix feed, lna, downconverter to l-band, inline 'tv amp', ~5m coax -> minitiouner
[12:19] <craag> yes
[12:19] <Darkside> :(
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[12:20] <craag> cyber membership only £7 iirc. You might even get to read the article about the hamtv merger system in the next publication if fsphil and I ever finish it :D
[12:20] <Darkside> heh
[12:20] <Darkside> i was at Tony VK5ZAI's station the other day
[12:20] <Darkside> and was looking at his setup
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[12:21] <Darkside> 1.2m dish, 2.4 ghz patch, preamp, then the l-band downconverter
[12:21] <craag> Yeah you're all setting up impressive stuff down there :)
[12:21] <craag> VK6MJ has 2x dishes, a 2.4m for low-elevation that can't tracker overhead, and a 1.2m to fill the gap
[12:22] <Darkside> wow
[12:23] <craag> Unfortunately there's not much exciting on the transmitter at the moment due to the ericsson failure
[12:23] <Darkside> ericsson failure?
[12:23] <craag> (meaning that columbus isn't getting used for ariss contacts)
[12:23] <Darkside> oh
[12:23] <craag> the voice transciever
[12:23] <Darkside> ahhh right
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[12:23] <Darkside> so just black images?
[12:23] <craag> there's a kenwood being upmassed later this year (we hope) to repalce it though
[12:23] <craag> yeah black screen with blue line :)
[12:23] <Darkside> mmk
[12:24] <Darkside> good enough to test with :-)
[12:24] <craag> #ariss for occasional relevant discussion btw
[12:25] <Darkside> mmk
[12:28] <craag> People have had success with just a 12dBi patch + lna + minitiouner, but only for a few seconds directly overhead.
[12:28] <craag> as you wind up the size of the dish you get more of the pass
[12:29] <craag> and then at ~3m you basically get everything where the spacecraft antenna isn't obstructed.
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[12:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL04 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL04
[12:58] <craag> 1x received sentence at farnham :)
[13:01] <udat> just got this going yesterday, iss hamtv be one of the targets i guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ir1a4hU4k
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[13:01] <udat> :)
[13:02] <udat> it doesn't go overhead here though which is a pain so just be to try out i guess
[13:03] <craag> udat: Yeah I've seen the project, nice smooth motion :)
[13:03] <craag> where are you udat ?
[13:05] <udat> northern ireland
[13:05] <udat> had rotators and board for a bit, took a while to sort the metal joining bar out though
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[13:33] <Laurenceb> gpsctl:ERROR: device open of /dev/ttyACM0 failed: No such file or directory
[13:33] <Laurenceb> this is a joke right./..
[13:33] <Laurenceb> gpsd is a complete joke
[13:34] <daveake> Unplugged the USB GPS ?
[13:34] <daveake> Some of mine appear as ttyUSB0 instead of ttyACM0
[13:34] <daveake> and yeah it's a PITA
[13:35] <Laurenceb> its right there in /dev/
[13:35] <Laurenceb> gpsd is just being mad
[13:35] <Laurenceb> im looking right at it in /dev/ but gpsctl cant see it
[13:36] <daveake> Not seen that one
[13:38] <daveake> Not used gpsctl, but shouldn't it be talking to the GPS via GPSD rather than directly ?
[13:38] <daveake> 'cos GPSD must have the GPS device open already
[13:39] <Laurenceb> I killed gpsd
[13:39] <Laurenceb> I'll pastebin the script
[13:39] <daveake> ok, maybe unplug/replug the gps then
[13:39] <Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/QvuUJiQP
[13:39] <daveake> Q. If you're disabling all NMEA, why are you using GPSD anyway ?
[13:40] <daveake> It only does NMEA, right ?
[13:41] <daveake> Oh, you're building NMEA in the gpsctl thing? And feeding that to GPSD ?
[13:41] <craag> It does UBX and some other proprietary stuff too. However the question is still valid.
[13:44] <daveake> Ah righty, don't recall seeing that mentioned when I looked at it.
[13:46] <craag> https://github.com/biiont/gpsd/blob/master/driver_ubx.c
[13:46] <daveake> ta
[13:56] <Laurenceb> I might have an idea
[13:56] <Laurenceb> if gpsd does its own config when I launch it again at the end...
[13:56] <Laurenceb> think I need to fire it up and deamonise it instead on using init tools
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[14:04] <Laurenceb> no theres no useful options
[14:05] <Laurenceb> meaning I'm stuck :(
[14:06] <craag> what are you trying to do with the gps?
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[14:09] <Laurenceb> turn on ubx and speed up the output
[14:10] <craag> right, it might be easier to do this just talking to it via the serial port, rather than messing with gpsd at all
[14:11] <Laurenceb> yeah
[14:12] <Laurenceb> 1 last attempt then I'll call it quits
[14:14] <Laurenceb> and it failed
[14:14] <Laurenceb> looks like ubx commands are accepted but nmea is rejected
[14:15] <Laurenceb> guess I could try to use the ubx to turn off nmea
[14:16] <Laurenceb> probability of this failinbg: 100-1e-6%
[14:17] <dbrooke> gpsd is mostly about providing a device independent interface to the position data, I think that the device specific stuff you're trying is really just fighting with it
[14:18] <Laurenceb> yeah I'll write it in python if this fails
[14:18] <daveake> Yeah I'd remove gpsd and do it in a program
[14:20] <Laurenceb> wow
[14:20] <Laurenceb> it hangs as soon as i disable nmea
[14:20] <Laurenceb> wtf gpsd
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[14:24] <Laurenceb> ok write it from scratch in python time
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[14:28] <Laurenceb> unless I could just use bash
[14:29] <Laurenceb> is there a neat way to use hex in bash?
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[14:37] <kokey> Laurenceb: to parse it or print it or to convert it?
[14:37] <Laurenceb> to parse it
[14:39] <kokey> you're reading from a serial port device path?
[14:40] <kokey> lots of ways to convert it but nothing native to bash that I can think off the top of my head, but you can do the conversion with awk or xxd or maybe even printf
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[14:41] <kokey> but you might have some difficulty having bash actually read from the device while sending it commands in between
[14:41] <Laurenceb> oh literallyt just
[14:41] <Laurenceb> '\x84\x64'
[14:41] <Laurenceb> this is too easy :P
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[17:03] <Laurenceb> anyone around?
[17:04] <Laurenceb> I seem to be seeing gpsd soft resetting my gps
[17:04] <Laurenceb> maddening
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[17:14] <craag> Just uninstall gpsd and do what you want manually.
[17:15] <craag> as dbrooke mentioned, it's not really designed for the level of control that you're after.
[17:17] <Laurenceb> yeah looks like python time :(
[17:17] <Laurenceb> pity
[17:21] <daveake> Now for something completely different
[17:27] <buzz53> Anybody here track JOAL04/05 today? Would appreciate any feedback on signal strength. Seemed a bit feeble to us.
[17:28] <buzz53> Not entirely surprised as the antenna arrangement was one part of the test. Maybe not too successful unfortunately!
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[18:12] <dbrooke> buzz53: it was quite weak with me (G6GZH on the map) and also fading, so hard to get a complete decode
[18:13] <dbrooke> lots of partial decodes on RTTY and CRC fails on LoRa
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