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[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1740346 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1740346
[00:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1143541 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1143541
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[00:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1313153 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1313153
[00:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03P0220060 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=P0220060
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[02:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
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[06:02] <vaizki> morning
[06:03] <vaizki> might be old news but.. https://airspy.groups.io/g/main/message/28134
[06:03] <vaizki> r820t2 is dead
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[06:08] <PE2BZ> Time to buy all cheap dongles and harvest the r820tw ?
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[06:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1740008 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1740008
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[06:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4810437 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4810437
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[08:36] <vaizki> PE2BZ, it might actually be a good thing, allowing something better to become the winner in the race to the bottom pricing and benefiting from bigger volumes that were previously served by R820T2
[08:41] <craag> I wonder what the demand for DVB-T receivers is now though, here in the west a lot of it is probably disappearing due to IP video services.
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[09:04] <vaizki> I am not saying thee venerable RTL-SDR will be replaced by another dvb-t(2) tuner but it might be replaced by another low cost sdr which is better (as in better enob, better tuning range, better stability) that will get to a good price through higher volume
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[09:06] <vaizki> people are already paying 20-100 usd for pimped up r820t2 thingys (nooelec, airspy mini) and that market is going to be a big void very soon now
[09:06] <craag> I think we're more likely to see the mobile comms frontends getting cheaper.
[09:07] <vaizki> so who are going to step in and try to capture that
[09:07] <craag> It's a tiny market by IC manufacturer standards
[09:08] <vaizki> I'm not saying someone will roll out a new purpose built wideband sdr ic to serve the el cheapo hobbyist market.. but someone might repurpose another ic already being produced in volume
[09:14] <vaizki> I'm sad prog could not get an extra batch of r820t2s to pump out more airspys.. that was not the kind of product lifetime you're planning on when pouring all your energy towards a project :P
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[09:15] <craag> Unfortunately he's a very tiny customer to them, and so they decided to try to palm off their b-stock on him too :/
[09:16] <daveake> wossat ??
[09:17] <vaizki> tl;dr - r820t2 is dead, prog tried to get an extra batch, they shipped shitty rejects -> no more airspy r2/mini
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[09:19] <daveake> ouch
[09:20] <gonzo_> are you mr airsply, or are you making rtl dongle airspy-work-alikes ?
[09:20] <daveake> A board I get made has an expensive (£15)end-of-lifed chip on it. I've bought enough for ~2 years. Have asked main customer how many they think they might want in future. I don't want to have to get the board redesigned but ototh I don't want to sit on too much stock
[09:21] <vaizki> gonzo_, me? no.. prog is. he's on the channel.
[09:22] <gonzo_> it's a small world
[09:23] <gonzo_> actually no, it's a big world, but there are lots of small circles within it
[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2420658 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2420658
[09:33] <vaizki> daveake, and at some point you have to consider if you are going to keep spares of the chip.. pesky logistics..
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[09:34] <daveake> yup
[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S22 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S22
[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS5
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WBL_SCOUTS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WBL_SCOUTS
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4750077 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4750077
[10:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6SDN-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6SDN-11
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[11:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2430760 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2430760
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1143205 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1143205
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[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03P0220064 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=P0220064
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:59] <Darkside> dbrooke: wont be able to get to the mod for a few days... if you want to have a look at it and submit a pull request that'd be appreciated :P
[12:00] <Darkside> should jsut be a matter of pre-pending 'RS_' wherever it talks to habitat
[12:00] <Darkside> in both the payload doc setup, and the sentence upload bits
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[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2430372 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2430372
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[13:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL05 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL05
[13:51] <dbrooke> Darkside: OK, will have a look at it
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[14:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4810433 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4810433
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[16:08] <Laurenceb> anyone here used gpsd?
[16:08] <Laurenceb> I'm struggling to make gpsctl do anything :(
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[16:22] <SpeedEvil> Not for a long while enough that I've forgotten it.
[16:29] <Laurenceb> itd be nice if someone had some example scripts
[16:29] <Laurenceb> ideally I'd like to clone this https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/ubx.h
[16:29] <Laurenceb> not looking hopeful so far :(
[16:29] <Laurenceb> faster to make an stm32 board with usb interface at this rate
[16:31] <Laurenceb> argggg
[16:31] <Laurenceb> "no devices connected"
[16:31] <Laurenceb> this is worse than useless
[16:31] <Laurenceb> 2 days I've been swearing at this junk
[16:31] <prog> vaizki: the alternative is already building up https://airspy.groups.io/g/main/message/28147
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[17:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1353067 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1353067
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[17:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1353867 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1353867
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[18:41] <Mike-SA6BSS> wsjtx-1.9.0-rc2 out
[18:41] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
[19:04] <Laurenceb> gpsctl:ERROR: initial GPS device /dev/ttyACM0 open failed
[19:04] <Laurenceb> why, just why
[19:05] <Laurenceb> why would anyone use embedded lunix
[19:12] <Ian_> It's very popular with inmates of our local satellite I understand :)
[19:16] <Laurenceb> this raspberry pi is going to be shashberry
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[19:26] <Ian_> gpsd is running as root?
[19:27] <Ian_> gpsd must start up as root in order to open the NTPD shared-memory segment, open its logfile, and create its local control socket.
[19:29] <Ian_> http://www.catb.org/gpsd/gpsd.html security and permissions issues.
[19:33] <Ian_> Not running as root, but started as root.
[19:33] <Laurenceb> hmm
[19:33] <Laurenceb> yeah it was
[19:35] <Ian_> Fascinating reading . . . :(
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[20:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0202 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0202
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[20:26] <Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/2eim4akU
[20:26] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[20:26] <Laurenceb> gpsctl:ERROR: /dev/ttyACM0 already opened by another proc
[20:26] <Laurenceb> on line 11
[20:28] <craag> don't specify the device if gpsd is already running
[20:28] <Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/ErsafV5s
[20:33] <craag> For what you're doing I think you need to not have gpsd running
[20:33] <craag> and then the second set of errors sound like you don't have dialout permissions on the user you're running as
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[21:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5WWL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5WWL
[21:41] <Darkside> dbrooke: thanks, will merge and roll out to my stations tonight
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[21:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
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[22:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JOAL05 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL05
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[22:57] <Laurenceb__> gpsd and systemd are doing weird things
[22:57] <Laurenceb__> disable gpsd -> gpsctl cannot connect to /dev/ttyACM0
[22:58] <Laurenceb__> enable gpsd -> gpsctl does not have permission to connect to /dev/ttyACM0
[22:58] <Laurenceb__> catch 22
[22:59] <craag> you may also need to 'systemctl stop gpsd.socket'
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[23:03] <Laurenceb__> ok
[23:03] <Laurenceb__> dont have the hardware with me atm :(
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[23:06] <Laurenceb__> looks like quite a few people have this problem
[23:07] <Laurenceb__> but no clear fixes :(
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2420661 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2420661
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[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0220088 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0220088
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[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1143571 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1143571
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1640003 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1640003
[23:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1133861 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1133861
[23:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03J1133861 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=J1133861
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