highaltitude.log.20180305

[00:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YERRA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YERRA
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[04:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2430761 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2430761
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[06:05] <PE2BZ> Mike-SA6BSS thanks, that´s it !
[06:25] <Mike-SA6BSS> I jhave made an Eagle schematich and pcb layout of that if you want them
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[06:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4730623 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4730623
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[06:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-10_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-10_chase
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[08:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4820225 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4820225
[08:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SOK-GK46_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SOK-GK46_chase
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[09:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S22 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S22
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[10:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2440203 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2440203
[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IZ11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZ11
[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4741057 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4741057
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1143138 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1143138
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[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2420023 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2420023
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2430227 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2430227
[11:38] Nick change: Steffann -> Steffanx
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:53] <Darkside> dbrooke: yo
[11:54] <Darkside> dbrooke: good idea
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[11:58] <dbrooke> there are currently 8 over the UK 1 day timespan so it's a bit cluttered
[12:00] <Darkside> yeah
[12:01] <Darkside> i agree its time to do something aboout it
[12:01] <dbrooke> the filter can also be given in the uri with e.g. "&q=!RS_*" so someone with no interest in sondes would be able to bookmark that
[12:01] <Darkside> well i'd be inclined to make the sonde filter the default
[12:02] <dbrooke> yeah, might be a relatively easy mod to preload that
[12:04] <Darkside> yup
[12:04] <Darkside> i think its a good idea, i'll implement it
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[12:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4730085 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4730085
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[12:55] <Darkside> dbrooke: mwheeler has some ideas on forcing people to update too..
[12:55] <Darkside> the main one being an intermediate hostname, i.e. <version_number>.sondehub.org
[12:55] <Darkside> so when a version is deprecated, that dns record is removed
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[12:58] <dbrooke> hah! as long as he's taking the support calls 8-)
[13:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSKY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY
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[13:42] <Laurenceb> anyone here used gpsd?
[13:42] <Laurenceb> I'm getting "no devices" error
[13:43] <Laurenceb> dunno how to start debugging :(
[13:43] <craag> are you installing it from package on a systemd system?
[13:43] <craag> if so there's some extra weirdness to be aware of.
[13:44] <craag> anyway first question is how are you running it currently, and what port are you trying to get it to talk to?
[13:44] <Laurenceb> ah ok
[13:44] <Laurenceb> its linux mint and yes systemd
[13:44] <Laurenceb> /dev/ttyACM0
[13:45] <Laurenceb> I just started the gpsd service
[13:45] <Laurenceb> then gpsctl
[13:45] <Laurenceb> and it says no devices
[13:45] <Laurenceb> yet cat /dev/ttyACM0 gives good looking data
[13:46] <Laurenceb> no gpsd in processes
[13:46] <Laurenceb> not sure if it should show
[13:46] <craag> ^^ the weirdness
[13:46] <Laurenceb> /etc/init.d/gpsd start gives [ ok ]
[13:46] <Laurenceb> ok
[13:46] <craag> systemd listens on the gpsd tcp port
[13:47] <craag> and starts gpsd when a client connects
[13:47] <Laurenceb> oh
[13:47] <Laurenceb> ouch
[13:47] <craag> (& stops when it disconnects)
[13:47] <Laurenceb> I could see this breaking gpsctl
[13:47] <craag> iirc it worked ok with the gpsd-clients once I stopped trying to run gpsd manually too.
[13:47] <craag> (with a short delay on client startup)
[13:48] <craag> it may be that it's not finding the ttyACM, have you looked at the /etc/ config file? (sorry can't remember where it is otomh)
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[13:49] <craag> Hmm might be that you have to tell the clients to connect via TCP, not the unix socket.
[13:50] <craag> Sorry was playing around with this on the lora gw last week but that's currently powered off at home
[13:53] <Laurenceb> ok
[13:53] <Laurenceb> it did work once...
[13:54] <dbrooke> my memory is a bit hazy but I'm pretty sure I had to specify the GPS device port in /etc/default/gpsd or similar
[13:54] <dbrooke> it's supposed to auto detect but perhaps the systemd interaction breaks that
[13:54] <craag> ^^ I was using ttyUSBx and it found it by default, ttyACM it might not
[13:56] <dbrooke> ah, maybe, in the end I used udev to put the gps on /dev/ttyGPS and hard coded that in gpsd config
[13:56] <Laurenceb> ok
[13:56] <dbrooke> I don't now recall all the steps of the iterative process which eventually got it to work
[13:57] <Laurenceb> hmm no /etc/dafault here
[13:57] <craag> check the systemd service file to see where it pulls the config from
[13:57] <Laurenceb> any idea where that is?
[13:59] <craag> /etc/systemd/, ./system/ maybe?
[13:59] <Laurenceb> hmm
[13:59] <Laurenceb> I'll grep the whole place for gps
[14:01] <dbrooke> /etc/default is legacy so may have been removed, I think I was using raspbian jessie which is a few years old now
[14:01] <Laurenceb> oh ok it is in /etc/default
[14:01] <Laurenceb> DEVICES=""
[14:02] <Laurenceb> "/dev/ttyACM0" ?
[14:02] <craag> sounds about right :P
[14:04] <Laurenceb> ah "identified as NMEA0183"
[14:04] <Laurenceb> I think I might know what the problem is
[14:04] <Laurenceb> there is loads of proprietary junk before the nmea starts
[14:05] <Laurenceb> I suspect it usually times out/counts out
[14:05] <Laurenceb> with the config changed it took ~3s to return
[14:06] <craag> one of the more basic gpsd client tools basically passes through the received data, may be worth trying each of them
[14:06] <Laurenceb> oh wow
[14:06] <Laurenceb> now if has shit tons of info
[14:06] <craag> :)
[14:07] <Laurenceb> u-blox 8 with rom version... etc etc
[14:07] <Laurenceb> looks like it probes the device
[14:07] <Laurenceb> I guess if it interacted too much with unknown devices that could be bad
[14:08] <Laurenceb> likely the problem I bet
[14:08] <Laurenceb> is there a simple datalogging interface for gpsd?
[14:08] <Laurenceb> so I can go outside to test performance?
[14:09] <craag> I can some of the client tools can dump to file? Don't know otoh
[14:09] <craag> *I think some
[14:09] <dbrooke> gpspipe -r -o logs/gps_log_$(date +%Y%m%dT%H%M%S)
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[14:10] <dbrooke> or similar just dumps NMEA to the file
[14:10] <craag> like that :)
[14:10] <Laurenceb> ok cool, thanks
[14:11] <Laurenceb> oh i see
[14:11] <Laurenceb> its automatically put it into ubx mode
[14:11] <Laurenceb> fair enough I guess
[14:13] <Laurenceb> looks like ubx commands work
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[14:16] <dbrooke> a neat trick if you have a client which doesn't natively support gpsd is that you can create a virtual NMEA serial port at /tmp/gps with gpspipe -r | socat - PTY,link=/tmp/gps,raw
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[14:31] <daveake> ooh that's handy
[14:40] <Laurenceb> ok walkabout complete
[14:40] <Laurenceb> I hope this works
[14:40] <Laurenceb> I see JSON
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[14:59] <Laurenceb> not bad
[14:59] <Laurenceb> about an order of magnitude better than my dashcam gps
[14:59] <Laurenceb> still 4m max error coming past 8 story buildings
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[14:59] <Laurenceb> but 2m error on my desk inside steel framed building
[15:00] <Laurenceb> lul
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[15:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1133880 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1133880
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[18:28] <day> is anyone here familiar with gnuradio's 'make packages out of a radio stream' functionality?
[18:40] <Laurenceb> wow gpsctl is rage inducing
[18:40] <Laurenceb> seems to be unfunctional
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[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IZ11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZ11
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[19:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IZ_TEST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZ_TEST
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1333153 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1333153
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2420656 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2420656
[23:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03P0220083 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=P0220083
[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1640006 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1640006
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