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[01:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4820800 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4820800
[01:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M3533666 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3533666
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[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0940083 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0940083
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[06:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1730392 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1730392
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[08:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-3
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[08:45] <hopej> hi dave, i have opened an issue regarding your handheld avr tracker. I seem to be having problems with it.
[08:46] <hopej> I added another line to try and debug, one to print the receieved message to serial. Here is the output https://pastebin.com/8N6Gbzq4
[08:46] <hopej> after this no more messages are receieved at all.
[08:46] <hopej> the messages are getting corrupted and garbled some how
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[10:31] <kokey> hopej: does it usually start out clear and only become garbled after a while?
[10:32] <hopej> yeah every time. It starts out clear and then usually the 3rd one is garbled. the 4th is fine then the rest are garbled until the loop stops running. (I guess crashes because of the garbled data)
[10:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[10:39] <hopej> the trasmitted packets are obviously fine though because after resetting the arduino, I get good data again
[10:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4741069 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4741069
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[10:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-1_chase
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4543002 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4543002
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433149 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433149
[11:26] <daveake> hopej: It might be running out of memory ... if the libraries (e.g. the LCD one) are larger now than the ones I used, then that could do it.
[11:27] <hopej> ahh bugger. any way around this?
[11:27] <hopej> does it store any information?
[11:27] <hopej> Doesnt it just dump the old packets after parsing the info?
[11:28] <fsphil> if you're out of memory then all bets are off
[11:29] <fsphil> iirc the arduino ide prints a memory usage summary when you compile the project
[11:30] <hopej> avrdude: 20082 bytes of flash verified
[11:30] <daveake> ram not rom
[11:30] <hopej> ahh ok
[11:30] <hopej> is there anyway of checking that?
[11:30] <daveake> Yeah, if it crashes you've run out :p
[11:30] <hopej> ha ok
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[11:31] <fsphil> lol
[11:31] <daveake> There is a routine I've used to say how much is left
[11:31] <fsphil> ah right, ram. I dunno how arduino deals with that
[11:32] <craag> like a starving wild beast fsphil
[11:32] <fsphil> lol
[11:32] <daveake> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qtAbpR4A/
[11:32] <daveake> Then call that with:
[11:32] <daveake> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iQYREt8s/
[11:33] <daveake> Well don't (for now ) do the F() bit
[11:34] <daveake> Probably simplest thing as a quick test is to comment out all the LCD stuff then see if it works
[11:34] <hopej> Just started a lesson, I will check back in shortly!
[11:34] <daveake> ok
[11:34] <daveake> I'm on site all day so generally won't be on IRC
[11:36] <daveake> I still have an old Arduino "IDE" installed; probably you have a newer one with different (larger) libs
[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IZ11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZ11
[12:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4620136 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4620136
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
[12:28] <hopej> so I just commented out all the lines that mention lcd and now i get garbled messages after only the second packet
[12:39] <hopej> Ok, not sure it is free memory. The free memory doesn't seem to change much throughout this process and some are successfully receievd and others not... https://pastebin.com/NmCkMVb8
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[13:32] <Ian_> Significantly in that last pastebin excerpt, the garbling occurs when the frequency error is north or south of 3k . . . so that may be a bit of a clue; I think )
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[13:33] <Ian_> Radio is a bit funny like that :)
[13:36] <hopej> but then it doesn't seem to correct itself
[13:36] <hopej> like with new packets
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[13:38] <Ian_> Alas, radio has yet to achieve more than a basic level of sentience.
[13:46] <hopej> ok, I will see if I can get it to dump any that have a freqerror >4000
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[14:04] <daveake> Yeah the odd thing (OK one of the odd things) is that it's not correcting the frequency
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[14:23] <hopej> yeah, it's all to do with the frequency. For some reason when i ran it then, the FreqError stayed < 400 and it just kept running fine.
[14:24] <hopej> Now I have it not updating the message if FreqError>4000 and it runs for longer, but sometimes doesn't collect new data becasue the freqerror stays above 4000 for ages (or even ever)
[14:24] <hopej> why might it not be updating the frequency?
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[14:26] <fsphil> did you find out of there is enough memory to run it all?
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[14:27] <hopej> reducing the memory load didn't seem to have an effect
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[14:30] <jammy> i'm just logging in on a different pc as my otherone just forze. Did anything interesting get said since my last message?
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[14:37] <hopej> i'm a little bit out of my depth here, but how can I drop the garbled message if I get one?
[14:38] <hopej> That is the problem I am having at the moment, if one comes through garbled I don't want it to be used at all.
[14:38] <hopej> so if Message[0] is not $ can I reassign message to a blank message or something?
[14:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K2JJI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K2JJI-11
[14:46] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:46] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Hulin, Jixi, Heilongjiang, China 10(46.31441,133.21215) at 0312332 meters about 037 hours ago
[14:46] <Laurenceb> anyone here played with dashcams?
[14:47] <Laurenceb> I've got a dashcam that records gps data to a mov file, want to extract the data with a script
[14:47] <Laurenceb> dunno if anyone here could help?
[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PL_01 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PL_01
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA-3 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-3
[14:58] <Ian_> daveake Lack of real observation on my part: on your LCARS is the rx display assumed to be North at the top?
[15:02] <Ian_> I'm using cartezian geometry as the error is likely to be less than significant, so doesn't warrant spherical geometry.
[15:07] <Ian_> The prototyping language of choice . . . gawk :)
[15:08] <Ian_> Doing well . . . at the moment. Greenwich Meridian may add fun.
[15:08] <Ian_> Peau a peau
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[15:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F6KFI-11 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F6KFI-11
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[16:31] <hopej> urgh, now I am having issues uploading the sketch.
[16:31] <hopej> It fails part way through each time
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[16:43] <daveake> Got a GPS connected ?
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[16:45] <hopej> no
[16:46] <hopej> I have commented out the checkgps() command
[16:46] <hopej> that makes it smaller and fast to upload
[16:46] <hopej> I managed to get it to upload now and I am still confused by this frequency thing. It just jumps around and doesn't settle on a frequency
[16:47] <hopej> ends up with massive errors and then that is when I get the garbled message
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[16:47] <hopej> presumably with the pi-sky tracker sat on my desk the FreqError should work its way smaller and smaller?
[16:49] <daveake> Well, it should do one jump to be within 500Hz.
[16:50] <daveake> You can always set the PITS frequency so the initial error is close to zero
[16:50] <daveake> However the auto-frequency control should work
[16:50] <hopej> yeah, I don't know why it isn't
[16:50] <daveake> Neither do I
[16:51] <hopej> the latest run the FrequencyOffset Variable just kept getting bigger and bigger.
[16:51] <hopej> The first two FreqErrors are very close to teach other, it's like it is getting the new value for FreqError from the old packet or something.
[16:51] <daveake> The LoRa devices do sometimes give a bad error value if there's a large gap
[16:52] <daveake> No it just comes from the LoRa module after a packet lands
[16:52] <daveake> You do have DIO0 connected properly ?
[16:52] <daveake> What happens if you stop the tracker ?
[16:52] <hopej> Looks that way. Seems like a nice smooth solder. Anyway of testing?
[16:53] <daveake> DIO0 should trigger once per packet
[16:53] <hopej> I stop getting any packs if I stop the tracker
[16:54] <daveake> OK good
[16:54] <daveake> I'll take a look at the w/e, or maybe earlier. What Arduino ver do you have ?
[16:55] <hopej> Software?
[16:55] <hopej> 1.8.5
[16:56] <hopej> For now, if I stop the FrequencyOffset variable from being cumulative then I get a much longer running software
[16:58] <hopej> So I have changed FrequencyOffset += FreqError to FrequencyOffset = FreqError and after a few packets it settles down and then carries on running
[16:59] <daveake> Sounds like a bug
[16:59] <daveake> Anyway AFK have to go battle snow for 3 hours+
[16:59] <hopej> enjoy!
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[17:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1113562 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1113562
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[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1630393 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1630393
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[18:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0940100 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0940100
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[19:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9GHA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9GHA-11
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[21:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VA2RMG-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2RMG-11
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[21:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[21:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[23:14] <labjg_> yo Darkside
[23:14] <labjg_> where do you lot get your balloons?
[23:14] <labjg_> and what brand etc.
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1113554 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1113554
[23:18] <labjg_> i'm still ordering from the uk.. may not be optimal
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2330173 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2330173
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2020166 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2020166
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4543379 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4543379
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433143 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433143
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1113w34 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1113w34
[23:23] <Darkside> labjg_: i get them from the UK stull
[23:23] <Darkside> still*
[23:24] <labjg_> oh ok
[23:24] <labjg_> randomeng?
[23:24] <Darkside> yep
[23:24] <Darkside> we did do an order from hwoyee directly, years ago
[23:24] <Darkside> but they wanted some pretty absurd minimum order quantity
[23:24] <Darkside> havent looked into it too much
[23:25] <Darkside> if we do a commercial launch we recover the costs anyway
[23:25] <labjg_> fair enough
[23:26] <labjg_> thanks!
[23:26] <labjg_> yeah i just emailed hwoyee to that effect
[23:26] <labjg_> we could buy tens but not hundreds!
[23:26] <Darkside> yeah
[23:26] <Darkside> if you make progress with the, let me know!
[23:27] <labjg_> will do
[23:27] <Darkside> further improvements to all the offline chase car stuff too :-)
[23:27] <Darkside> wind data gatherer broke, had to re-write it to use NOAA's GRIB filter
[23:28] <Darkside> and i'm working on a browser-based chase-car display (though that's still a long way from being finished)
[23:29] <Darkside> though I can do a live KML output right noe: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zxXKqCBXoHTNsZCn2
[23:29] <Darkside> now*
[23:29] <Darkside> might be good for demos and the like...
[23:30] <labjg_> oooh i like the look of that
[23:30] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/horus_utils/tree/master/apps/kml_chase
[23:30] <labjg_> so that's a live update of predicted path at burst, plus predicted landing if you cut down?
[23:30] <Darkside> yep
[23:30] <labjg_> neat
[23:31] <Darkside> we've had that for ages with oziplotter
[23:31] <Darkside> but i've been working towards a non-oziexplorer based mapping system, and this was kind of a 'practice run'
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[23:33] <Darkside> no integration of the horus utils stuff with dave's lora ground station (yet), but there's a 'fldigi bridge' program which will read in data from fldigi easily enough
[23:35] <labjg_> cool
[23:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[23:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1630399 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1630399
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