highaltitude.log.20180207

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[00:20] <russss> https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/961009004435726336
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[02:08] <Matt|home> evening /o
[02:17] <darsie> hi
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[02:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2340144 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2340144
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[03:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M3623329 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3623329
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[06:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icarusIV after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icarusIV
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[07:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[09:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
[09:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-1
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[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WESTG - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WESTG
[10:25] <PE1ANS_> !dial SITS-1
[10:25] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[10:28] <daveake> You're optimistic
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[10:36] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> 434.165
[10:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSLORA1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA1
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[10:59] <PE1ANS_> Mike-SA6BSS|2 Tnx
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[11:01] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:01] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03RBR 10(b78f), 03MMU 10(78dd)
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[11:02] <pb0ahx> frequentie off SITS-1 some body know him ??
[11:03] <G8KNN> 434.163
[11:03] <pb0ahx> tnx
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4436114 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4436114
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433167 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433167
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-3 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-3
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STS41B - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STS41B
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[11:38] <john2e0zbe> does anyone UK have the freq for SITS1
[11:38] <pb0ahx> 434.163
[11:38] <pb0ahx> he is to weakly for me i see him in the waterfall
[11:39] <john2e0zbe> Thank you
[11:40] <john2e0zbe> quite stron Southampton
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[11:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433067 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433067
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[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MMU - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MMU
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BRUCE after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BRUCE
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[12:33] <daveake> Filling soon
[12:33] <daveake> Not doing 3G or YT
[12:36] <fsphil> good luck!
[12:39] <PE1ANS_> does anyone UK have the freq for SITS-3 ??
[12:40] <PE2BZ> ik gok.... 434.362
[12:40] <PE1ANS_> Tnx Ben
[12:41] <dbrooke> the right-most of these 2 antennas https://album.dbrooke.me.uk/adsb_ogn/P1020407.JPG is ready for 868MHz LoRa but I'm not that optimistic I'll hear anything
[12:44] <fsphil> ssdv.habhub.org/images/2018-02-07--12-40-15-MMU-1C9D5.jpeg
[12:44] Action: fsphil panics
[12:48] <Ron_G8FJG> ready for the kitchen sink! ;-) https://i.imgur.com/M4k6g9O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5eMskN3.jpg
[12:48] <fsphil> uh-oh, I think daveake's forgotten how this is suppose to work: ssdv.habhub.org/images/2018-02-07--12-43-45-BRUCE-1C9D9.jpeg
[12:48] <PE2BZ> lol
[12:49] <daveake> Lol
[12:49] <PE2BZ> Ron_G8FJG hire a plumber next time ;-)
[12:49] <PE2BZ> And keep the antenna cables BEHIND the monitors please
[12:49] <Ron_G8FJG> most of the antenna leads are marked ...most
[12:50] <PE2BZ> daveake where is you Tesla ?
[12:51] <craag> musk 'borrowed' it last week I heard PE2BZ, has yet to return it.
[12:51] <PE2BZ> Perhaps it will DROP by :-)
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[12:54] <dbrooke> I needed an N female back to back to hook up my 868MHz antenna to the LoRa rx but I couldn't find one and didn't have enough inter-series adapter bits to make one but I found a coax relay and have put that in instead
[12:54] <dbrooke> hopefully I picked the normally closed side 8-)
[12:54] <PE2BZ> In the right switch position ?
[12:54] <dbrooke> (I have checked)
[12:55] <dbrooke> I still don't expect to rx anything at that range but got to try anyway
[12:56] <PE2BZ> dbrooke is the female female for indoor or outdoor ?
[12:56] <dbrooke> that power pole at Dave's always scares me ...
[12:57] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: it's in the roof space of the garage
[12:57] <PE2BZ> BNC female - female also fits 2 male N-type connectors. Push and pull type connector.
[12:58] <dbrooke> I'm sure I had an adapter but I must have used it somewhere - not that I can think of where, but the relay is fine for a temporary setup
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[13:05] <daveake> up
[13:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EVA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EVA
[13:13] <dbrooke> AOS EVA
[13:15] <daveake> cheers :)
[13:15] <daveake> I'm picking that up indoors on my handheld lora recever
[13:16] <fsphil> ah grass, jpeg's old enemy
[13:17] <daveake> I should bin images on launch
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[13:17] <fsphil> here we go
[13:18] <fsphil> this is much better than a car
[13:18] <_Jordan> Cheers for all the listeners today/so far
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
[13:21] <fsphil> the camera switching is working well
[13:23] <daveake> Yeah one fisheye is a bit blurry not sure if wet or knocked the focus
[13:23] <daveake> There are 2 video cams onboard as well
[13:24] <WillDuckworth> Looking good so far Dave :)
[13:24] <daveake> Last time the same happened but it cleared further up
[13:24] <daveake> Right best get going :)
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RBR after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RBR
[13:26] <fsphil> daveake: Bruce was on the flight that deployed hubble, so it being blurry is appropriate
[13:27] <daveake> lol
[13:27] <craag> :D
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[13:34] <WillDuckworth> Helium or Hydrogen on this? (apols if mentioned before)
[13:35] <gonzo_> usually H2 for dave, unless it's a school launch
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[13:42] <fsphil> I think images with missing packets would look better if the filled areas took the colour of the blocks above it
[13:42] <fsphil> rather than continuing with the last block's colour
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[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLACKOPS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLACKOPS_chase
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[14:00] <F4GUK> !flights
[14:00] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Current flights: 03RBR 10(b78f), 03MMU 10(78dd)
[14:00] <F4GUK> !dial MMU
[14:00] <F4GUK> !payload MMU
[14:00] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Payload 03MMU 10(78dd) 03$$MMU - no transmissions
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[14:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
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[14:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Dials * BRUCE: LoRa, 869.850MHz, Mode 3 (250kHz / SF7 / EC4:6, explicit header), SSDV and telemetry, continuous Tx
[14:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> * MMU: LoRa: 434.225MHz, Mode 1, SSDV and telemetry, continuous Tx
[14:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> * EVA: LoRa: 434.450MHz, Mode 2, telemetry only, transmits 1 packet every 10 seconds
[14:05] <Geoff-G8DHE_> actually they seem to have different callsigns but the freq's amnd modes are right!
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[14:11] <F4GUK> Thanks Geoff ! ;-)
[14:11] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The Lora gateway code doesn't send in the freq.
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[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE_> #
[14:14] <gonzo_> are the MMU freqs/mode correct?
[14:14] <gonzo_> I should be getting sigs, buit niothing
[14:15] <john2e0zbe> nothing here southampton
[14:15] <Ron_G8FJG> I see bruce on 434.229 eva 434.454
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Channel 1 869.850.0 MHz
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Explicit, 250.00, SF7, EC4:6
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> CRC Failure 70h!!
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> 51.39279, -2.45034, 27252
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> SSDV MMU: Image 94, Packet 135 2869
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[14:16] <Ron_G8FJG> my 869 antenna seems to have crashed abd burned over the winter
[14:22] <PE2BZ> I burned my 433 Lora module #0 yesterday evening by TX´ing in FM on 70 cm with 50 @ on 1 meter distance.
[14:23] <Ron_G8FJG> :-(
[14:24] <PE2BZ> I have a solid RSSI of -156 with the same module I received my own PiZero with yesterday afternoon.
[14:24] <Ron_G8FJG> not sure if 869 lna is waterlogged or bad N type ...
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[14:29] <PE2BZ> Go and get it :-)
[14:29] <g8fjg> router crash
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[14:29] <PE2BZ> short sleeves, if the water runs into your sleeves you will know the answer
[14:30] <PE2BZ> I am going to replace my rfm module and add 2 diodes antiparallel to the SMA connectors. After that I am going to TX 50 Watts on 70 cm again.
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[14:31] <vaizki> umm why do you need to transmit right next to it..
[14:31] <PE2BZ> SSDV K-TLTV: Image 27, Packet 27018 guess that´s nothing to do with Dave Musk´s flight....
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[14:32] <g8fjg> had an accident with tower a month ago...dropped it 2mtrs..may have caused damage
[14:32] <g8fjg> tower ok ...right hand healing
[14:32] <fsphil> PE2BZ: cosmic background radiation :)
[14:32] <PE2BZ> vaizki I have one antenna mast. A 8 element yagi 2 meter below the V-2000 omnidirectional. IF the yagi is attached to the RFM module and I start a QSO oo 70 cm I blow my RFM module
[14:33] <PE2BZ> fsphil comic cosmic background radiaton ;-)
[14:34] <PE2BZ> vaizki and it happened before and will happen again I am afraid. So the diodes will help but I can not transmit more as 7 mW with that LoRa module afterwards
[14:35] <gonzo_> some antiparallel diodes may protect the module, but you risk that then re-radiating harmonics
[14:36] <PE2BZ> Only with TX with that module I thought ?
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[14:36] <gonzo_> I have banks of SMA relays to switch antennas and isolate rx's
[14:36] <PE2BZ> That module still transmits by the way ;-)
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[14:37] <gonzo_> ok, didn't see that till after my comment
[14:38] <PE2BZ> But I did not find yet what part that preamp transistor is to replace only the preamp.
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[14:52] <dbrooke> the backdrop of ground and clouds looks so wrong
[14:53] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Better than the Bristol channel ;-)
[14:53] <dbrooke> but looks like there'll be some good pictures at altitude
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[14:56] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Below my horizon now
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[14:58] <dbrooke> I didn't receive much on 434 let alone 868 - SW seems to be a relatively poor direction for me
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[15:04] <gonzo_> nothing at all heard here
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[15:13] <sv1ljj> hello, is there anyone here from the RBR flight?
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITSLORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITSLORA
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[15:21] <daveake> Slow roads
[15:22] <daveake> Just driving past where I landed one last year
[15:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> ? Usually find roads don't move a lot, just the cars ;-)
[15:22] <daveake> Lol
[15:23] <daveake> 35 mins till near landing site
[15:23] <daveake> In the car the 868 worked better
[15:24] <daveake> Dunno why the 434 was so poor
[15:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> 868 was working well today and 434 wasn't that bad
[15:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> for me
[15:25] <daveake> I think my XX script stopped.
[15:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> You should worry, the Greeks are flying Sesame Bread Rings on RBR!!
[15:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Food for the Gods perhaps ?
[15:45] <mfa298> might be a good thing the XX scripts stopped, you might not have wanted to land near where it's marking (unless you're trying to complete the set of military bases)
[15:46] Action: mfa298 realises it doesn't work that way around, but that's a less interesting observation
[15:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PE2BZ after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ
[15:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Question is which side of the railway track has it landed ?
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[16:04] <daveake> Got a position
[16:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Ah I wondered!
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[16:21] <SpeedEvil> https://youtu.be/aBr2kKAHN6M?t=9246 - FH starman - lightning over Africa.
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[16:27] <tweetBot> @daveake: And return him safely to Earth ... #ukhas https://t.co/60BRCE9W4Y
[16:29] <Ian_> Congratulations.
[16:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Excellent
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[16:41] <daveake> Now I smell of cow shit
[16:43] <Ian_> That's bovine scatology by any account.
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[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7SJK-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7SJK-11
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[17:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CHANGEME after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[18:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03rapido_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=rapido_chase
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[20:10] <WillDuckworth> cracking pics Dave - well done
[20:13] <daveake> There'll be lots more ... just copying SDs now
[20:14] <daveake> I'll go through it tomorrow to pick out some short sections and stills
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[20:54] <kokey> I'm probably not the first to say this... Bruce needs a car
[20:59] <Matt|home> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SolidRocketMotor.svg <-- can someone briefly explain this to me? the picture indicates that the ignition charge begins at the top of the rocket, so the fuel wouldn't be ignited from near the nozzle..
[20:59] <Matt|home> i don't understand, shouldn't it be the other way around? or does it not matter
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[21:01] <SpeedEvil> For big motors, you want to ensurethey burn evenly
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> Lighting them at the top means the gas moves down the case and lights it rapidly
[21:02] <Matt|home> yeah but if it starts to burn from the top wont the gas push -down- at the rest of the fuel pushing it out of the motor?
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> lighting at the bottom might create trapped cold gas at the top
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> the middle is a void
[21:02] <Matt|home> ah
[21:03] <Matt|home> that makes more sense..
[21:03] <Matt|home> this is probably a really fucking obvious statement, but did you know rocket science is complicated..
[21:04] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:04] <Matt|home> kinda makes me really pissed at that asshole who got news attention by saying he was gonna build a rocket to disprove nasa or some shit, and that "it shouldn't be too difficult"
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[21:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-3 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-3
[21:39] <SpeedEvil> Matt|home: you mean Elon Musk?
[21:39] <SpeedEvil> (disprove on the costs.)
[21:40] <Matt|home> nah , that flat earther jackass. although i haven't really seen elon musk thank any of his engineers or anything like that yet :\
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> They got a plaque, and he says it every time he makes a tal.
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> k
[21:42] <Matt|home> yeah? that's good
[21:42] <Matt|home> i redact my statement
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[22:02] <fsphil> he keeps saying it's going to Mars orbit
[22:08] <darsie> Well, eventually it will be at/near the place where the Mars orbit is.
[22:08] <darsie> Then it will move away from Mars orbit.
[22:14] <fsphil> near-orbit
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[23:02] <zyp> we're not in a transfer window to mars anyway, so it wouldn't have gotten any closer to mars even if it had a lower apogee
[23:12] <fsphil> I do wish it had solar, so it could power up now and then and send a picture
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[23:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4443056 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4443056
[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433189 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433189
[23:40] <labjg_> daveake: congrats on the flight! also re your xx script stopping, this happened when I ran it too
[23:40] <daveake> Actually the script was ok but the ssh link to the pi died
[23:41] <labjg_> ah ok
[23:41] <labjg_> fwiw i got urllib error after ~20mins
[23:41] <labjg_> urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error [WinError 10060] A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond>
[23:41] <labjg_> meh
[23:41] <daveake> Ok that just needs trapping
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