highaltitude.log.20180205

[00:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S21 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S21
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[01:53] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[01:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Qeqqata Municipality, Greenland 10(65.48107,-45.03785) at 0311999 meters about 03a day ago
[01:53] <Laurenceb_> SS-520 launched successfully O_o
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[03:15] <Darkside> pff
[03:15] <Darkside> oziplotter can use google maps
[03:15] <Darkside> and cache them
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[05:02] <labjg> Yo Darkside
[05:02] <labjg> quick q
[05:02] <Darkside> mm
[05:03] <Darkside> good timing
[05:04] <labjg> If we go into licenced 70cm band, does out payload have to broadcast a licenced callsign?
[05:04] <labjg> i.e. we can't use our 'YERRA' name any more?
[05:04] <labjg> (brb sry)
[05:04] <Darkside> it gets a bit confusing
[05:05] <Darkside> it should identify itself with a licensed callsign *somehow*
[05:05] <Darkside> on our rtty payload, which uses the 'horus' callsign, we habe it tx 'this is vk5arg' every few minjtes
[05:06] <Darkside> minutes*
[05:06] <Darkside> its a bit of a grey area
[05:07] <Darkside> lile yhe wenet payload sends a text message with the callsign, but unless you have the rx software you wouldny know
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[05:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TheOne911_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TheOne911_chase
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[06:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icarusIV after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icarusIV
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[07:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03T_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=T_chase
[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[08:06] <vaizki> Darkside calling something a grey area.. pot & kettle! :)
[08:07] <Darkside> lol
[08:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-3 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-3
[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RBR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RBR
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[10:13] <_Jordan> Good morning all
[10:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WBL_SCOUTS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WBL_SCOUTS
[10:17] <Darkside> aha!
[10:17] <Darkside> warnambool...
[10:17] <Darkside> interesting
[10:17] <Darkside> at least they are using a radio tracker
[10:18] <Darkside> hopefully they get a NOTAM...
[10:21] <fsphil> huh, Belfast Coastal Reserve
[10:22] <fsphil> likely 1000% nicer than the real belfast
[10:22] <Darkside> http://www.standard.net.au/story/5003256/warrnambool-scouts-want-to-launch-a-balloon-up-to-space/
[10:22] <Darkside> When Murray Dancey told his Scout group they were going to send a balloon up to space, at first they didnt believe him.
[10:22] <Darkside> i don't believe him either >_>
[10:22] <Darkside> at least they seem to be on the right track... er
[10:22] <Darkside> :-)
[10:23] <Darkside> though using LoRa they will probably be the only receiver in the area
[10:23] <fsphil> lol
[10:23] <fsphil> yeah I have my doubts there too
[10:23] <Darkside> if they'd have used RTTY there would have been a bunch of hams in melbourne that would be able to track
[10:24] <Darkside> daveake: Upu any idea what boards these guys are using?
[10:24] <Darkside> and can it alternate RTTY and LoRa?
[10:24] <daveake> I've no idea
[10:25] <Darkside> i noticed their ground station a few days ago
[10:25] <daveake> Does't have the usual set of pits fields
[10:25] <Darkside> still has whart i assume is the default antenna description - Watson W-50
[10:25] <Darkside> could be a habduino shield
[10:25] <Darkside> or whatever the one is that does lora?
[10:26] <Darkside> oh wait, habduino doesnt do lora >_>
[10:43] <Darkside> ok its a PITS zero kit
[10:45] <daveake> Doesn't have the pits speed/bearing fields, so maybe they modded it or wrote their own
[10:46] <Darkside> doesnt soind like it
[10:46] <Darkside> i think its the RTTY downlink
[10:46] <Darkside> "My plan at this stage is to get the software/hardware working reliably, before starting to think about the balloon.. and getting CASA NOTAM registration etc. My goal is to launch before April, but I have no dates planned yet."
[10:47] <Darkside> now THAT is a breath of fresh air
[10:47] <daveake> wow
[10:47] <daveake> Unlike someone in #pits lately wanting to launch tomorrow without getting the payload on the map till this morning
[10:48] <Darkside> is it just me or has icarusIV been transmitting continuously for a few days
[10:48] <daveake> Perhaps you have been too, but no that's Icarus and it's been for a week or two
[10:49] <Darkside> huh
[10:49] <daveake> Which is annoying when you're trying to spot a bad payload doc fly past the logtail
[10:49] <Darkside> every 2 seconds as well
[10:49] <Darkside> yeah
[10:49] <Darkside> did they forget they left a tracker on or something...
[10:49] <daveake> dunno
[10:50] <daveake> It is Rob
[10:50] <Darkside> at least we know where they live!
[10:50] <daveake> :)
[10:50] <Darkside> which Rob?
[10:50] <daveake> Harrison
[10:50] <Darkside> M0RJX...
[10:50] <Darkside> ah
[10:51] <Darkside> so why has he had a payload running for a week :P
[10:51] <Darkside> maybe remind him
[10:51] <Darkside> or at least get him to turn off the uploading!
[10:51] <daveake> yeah, testing on the map isn't really needed for long periods
[10:51] <daveake> one upload is usally enough
[10:51] <daveake> then test offline
[10:54] <Darkside> mm
[10:58] <Kryczek> Hi! Is anyone using the Uputronics Raspberry Pi+ GPS Expansion Board with a Raspberry Pi 3? I followed https://ava.upuaut.net/?p=726 but as far as I understand "dtoverlay=pi3-miniuart-bt" is supposed to move Bluetooth to miniUART, not disable it entirely, except my RPi does not see its internal Bluetooth device anymore
[11:03] <daveake> You could try dtoverlay=pi3-miniuart-bt-overlay instead. See http://www.briandorey.com/post/Raspberry-Pi-3-UART-Overlay-Workaround
[11:04] <daveake> I've not tried as I've not needed BT
[11:06] <daveake> I don't know how worthwhile it would be; obviously RPi chose the better uart for BT to avoid issues caused by the miniuart being crap
[11:09] <Kryczek> thank you, I will look into it but I fear that it's the same overlay, only before it was integrated into the official build
[11:09] <daveake> quite likely
[11:10] <Kryczek> in this case https://ava.upuaut.net/?p=726 also has "dtoverlay=pps-gpio,gpiopin=18" so maybe this second line conflicts with the Bluetooth rerouting
[11:11] <daveake> No it's the BT overlay
[11:12] <Kryczek> I mean, maybe the BT overlay needs the GPIO pin 18 but we use that for PPS?
[11:12] <daveake> No
[11:12] <Kryczek> ah ok, so there is hope :)
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL2IK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL2IK
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4343512 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4343512
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SH06 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SH06
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4436220 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4436220
[11:28] <Kryczek> daveake: Upu: it's possible to have both the GPS shield and Bluetooth working by *not* executing the `systemctl disable hciuart` line at https://ava.upuaut.net/?p=726 but by adding core_freq=250 to /boot/config.txt as per https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/blob/master/boot/overlays/README :)
[11:29] <daveake> Heh, yeah, that's an option
[11:29] <Kryczek> I thought it would be slowing the processor a lot but apparently core_freq=250 only brings it down from 400
[11:30] <Kryczek> it's not the frequency of the CPU itself, it's the freq of the GPU (but which does impact the CPU somewhat)
[11:36] <daveake> Yeah, not so bad
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[12:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4s43512 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4s43512
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[15:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03lindym2909@gmail.com_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=lindym2909%40gmail.com_chase
[15:50] <fsphil> the people using the hab tracker are a bit random
[15:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03lindym2909@gmail.com10415045839_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=lindym2909%40gmail.com10415045839_chase
[15:50] <fsphil> *app
[15:50] <daveake> I wonder what proportion know what it's fo
[15:50] <daveake> r
[15:53] <fsphil> maybe they mis-read it, though it was hub tracker. for tracking husbands
[15:58] <daveake> lol
[15:59] <daveake> Quick, add a disclaimer before the first court case
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[15:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-3 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-3
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[17:02] <hopej> What is a good RSSI to have when testing in the same room?
[17:03] <hopej> My LoRa gateway is showing -32 -> -45 when right next to each other. Is that ok?
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[18:45] <PE2BZ> hopej -32 to -45 for RSSI is a stron signal. With a TX antenna on the roof and RX with 16 cm wire indoor I get about -75, that is about 8 meter distance
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[21:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03T_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=T_chase
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[22:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mwheeler_car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=mwheeler_car_chase
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[22:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS13
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[22:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S21 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S21
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[23:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-3 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-3
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4436202 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4436202
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[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4413438 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4413438
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[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4710168 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4710168
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[23:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1120122 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1120122
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