highaltitude.log.20180126

[00:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1740003 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1740003
[00:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M1413478 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M1413478
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[00:39] <Darkside> attack of the sondes!
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[02:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUSLORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA1
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[02:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS
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[05:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4840278 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4840278
[06:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icarusIV after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icarusIV
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[07:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[07:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[09:14] <Darkside> anyone know what the shelf life of a hwoyee 200g is?
[09:14] <Darkside> daveake: ^
[09:15] <daveake> Pass
[09:15] <Darkside> got an old one here, maybe 5-6 years old
[09:18] <daveake> If clear of UV during that time probably fine
[09:18] <Darkside> yeah definirely was clear of UV
[09:18] <Darkside> ok
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[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITSLORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITSLORA
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[10:27] <_Jordan> SITSLORA is on the map!
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[10:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LetFik3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LetFik3
[10:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITSRTTY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITSRTTY
[10:44] <daveake> Flying today _Jordan ?
[10:46] <_Jordan> Yeah my first lora telemetry test
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[10:47] <daveake> Might be coming this way; what ascent rate/burst ?
[10:50] <_Jordan> looking for 6 ms, 28.5 km
[10:50] <daveake> OK.
[10:50] <daveake> Not seeing a notam
[10:50] <daveake> Was that a last-minute job?
[10:51] <daveake> notaminfo is soemtimes a bit slow picking them up
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[10:55] <_Jordan> got in touch with AROPS yesterday
[10:57] <daveake> Latest on notaminfo is briefing ID 1801260935, at 26 Jan 2018 09:35 GMT
[10:57] <daveake> You need to check the AIS site to make sure it's been issued
[10:58] <daveake> Typically I find it's done within a couple of hours of my email, which I send 3 days prior to flight, but I always check
[10:59] <daveake> I assume this is a site you have permanent permission for ?
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[11:04] <PE1ANS> !dial SITSRTTY
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[11:09] <craag> Up with no notam so far :P
[11:10] <daveake> sigh
[11:10] <daveake> Maybe they should slap an illegal FPV transmitter on it too
[11:11] <craag> lol
[11:11] <udat> daveake: with an amplifier to make it better :)
[11:12] <daveake> ofc :)
[11:12] <craag> nearly all fpv kit available can do ~20x UK legal limit without a PA..
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[11:16] <daveake> Is the power genrally settable down to legal levels?
[11:16] <daveake> I guess the FPV crowd generally don't care
[11:17] <craag> Haven't played with one myself but only some advertise that you can change it..
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M2033531 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M2033531
[11:18] <udat> from most people POV if they can buy it off eBay from China it's fine
[11:18] <daveake> yeah :(
[11:18] <craag> Yeah chances of consequence for using them are practically nil
[11:18] <udat> I've got a pair here but plan on using them in amateur band on the ground only
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433142 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433142
[11:19] <udat> https://wiki.batc.org.uk/5.6_GHz
[11:21] <craag> Heh yep have seen those in action, (top photo is dad's gear), they're good fun.
[11:21] <udat> ahh nice :)
[11:22] <craag> airborne and omnidirectional is a lot more likely to cause issues.
[11:22] <daveake> Upu and I are hoping to stream my next HAB launch to youtube from his drone
[11:22] <craag> heh don't do a steve.
[11:22] <daveake> lol
[11:22] <daveake> yeah spoke to him about that :/
[11:23] <craag> did he get that back?
[11:24] <daveake> I think so
[11:24] <daveake> not necessarily in launch condition
[11:25] <daveake> We're planning 3 streams - drone, HAB-->3G, and camcorder->HDMI capture->laptop->Youtube
[11:25] <daveake> Order your extra monitors now :p
[11:26] <daveake> The tracker has 3 Pi cams, with SSDV switching between them
[11:26] <daveake> Should be fun
[11:27] <craag> :D
[11:28] <daveake> My last 3G one streamed from the tree that it landed in :p
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03O456R346 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=O456R346
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[11:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSISP after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSISP
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[12:39] <daveake> Did SITSRTTY stop Txing during descent ?
[12:42] <Darkside> bahaha Vaisala liked the tweet of the recycled antenna payload
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[12:44] <daveake> :)
[12:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:46] <Vostok> hah
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03rodek_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=rodek_chase
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[16:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03U3S21 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S21
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[18:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-3 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-3
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[18:32] <PE2BZ> Good evening all
[18:33] <PE2BZ> Today, with the 7 el. 70 cm antenna about 40 degrees of for the SITS lora flight I received 101 packet, which I think is quite OK. There is a however, however.
[18:35] <PE2BZ> I had one pits board with 2 RFM modules running, sharing the same antenna, but one RFM module was fed by a preamp. That receiver got 0 telemetry packets, most likely the noise, the rssi with no signal is -100 and the one without pre-amp is -128
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[18:36] <PE2BZ> But reviewing the telemetry.txt for today, I notice that the packets exist twice in the data, so 11:44:51 - $$SITSLORA,315,11:44:34,52.31001,-2.51531,20875,135,94,12,12.6,4.1,0.175*7C14
[18:36] <PE2BZ> 11:44:51 - $$SITSLORA,315,11:44:34,52.31001,-2.51531,20875,135,94,12,12.6,4.1,0.175*7C14
[18:37] <PE2BZ> Can someone tell if the packets where transmitted twice ?
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[18:42] <Bob_ZL1RS> your preamp may be oscillating or, more likely, the preamp gain caused other out of band signals to block your RFM module RX ... been there and done both
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[18:45] <fsphil> no gain, no pain
[18:45] <Bob_ZL1RS> :)
[18:57] <Mike-SA6BSS> Bob_ZL1RS: Jim launched U3S21
[19:01] <Mike-SA6BSS> started assembling the new wspr board, got them in the mail today https://imgur.com/FQ3kQ8L
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[19:03] <fsphil> oh cute
[19:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> hehe, yes its cute :)
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[19:30] <PE2BZ> Hi Bob, thanks for your reply. The preamp has a FM trap and I guess I understand why, with a 30 dB of noise level raise, that module does not receive. However I was wondering why every packet is twice in the telemetry.txt and only once on the gateway screen
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[19:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[19:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LetFik2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LetFik2
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[20:43] <Bob_ZL1RS> Mike-SA6BSS: Nice. The GPS 'chip' will weigh about the same as that programming header which will be cut off.
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[20:53] <Mike-SA6BSS> yeah, guessing total weight will be about 1,7
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[21:18] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: I've just looked at my telemetry.txt and also have each packet twice; I only have one rx module on 434 so I guess the software is logging twice for some reason (I've not looked)
[21:19] <dbrooke> older archived telemetry.txt don't have the duplications so it looks like it started happening some time in the latter half of 2016
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[21:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UPUTEST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UPUTEST
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4433156 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4433156
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M2033058 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M2033058
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0120134 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0120134
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