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[01:39] <evilroots> FUCK OFF
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[01:40] <PsionicOz> can someone kick that sucker ?
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[01:40] <superkuh> Every network. Every channel.
[01:41] <daveake> nice
[01:41] <evilroots> every netowkr and channel is getting this spam
[01:41] <PsionicOz> very annoying
[01:41] <evilroots> no ops on this channel
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[01:41] <evilroots> i will be back
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[01:42] <daveake> same
[01:42] <Ian_> Decidedly so. Can an admin kick rottenapp463 at all? Just like it to wait for people to be in bed.
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[01:44] <nigelvh> Doesn't fix it for the rest of the channel, but you should be able to /ignore them.
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[01:45] <PsionicOz> nigelvh: bless your socks that worked
[01:45] <Ian_> I think I would rather have him/her/it nuked :)
[01:45] <evilroots> they are useing rndom ips / host
[01:45] <nigelvh> Ian_: Absoloutely, but short of an op being available, that's the best I can offer you.
[01:46] <evilroots> they are hitting everynetowrk
[01:46] <evilroots> and every channel
[01:46] <nigelvh> And yes, they're pretty widespread at the moment.
[01:46] <PsionicOz> I'm guessing they will raise the ire of freenode and get booted eventually
[01:47] <PsionicOz> but man that was noisy there for a while
[01:47] <nigelvh> My guess is one of the freenode admins is already aware. They're usually on the ball or someone pings them about it.
[01:47] <daveake> yeah /ignore works
[01:49] <PsionicOz> certainly does.. thanks again to nigelvh for that perl of information :)
[01:50] <nigelvh> +1 for random mostly useless internet knowledge.
[01:50] <PsionicOz> I thought there for a while I'd broken irssi it was flashing the screen at me so often...
[01:51] <daveake> Anyone else get an invite to a "personal" channel <nick>isanigger<some_number?
[01:51] <daveake> Or am I special ? LOL
[01:51] <PsionicOz> getting same.
[01:51] <daveake> dammit thought I was special :p
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[01:51] <nigelvh> Yeah, some of these bots will PM, sometimes they invite, etc.
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[01:51] <PsionicOz> damn annoying who ever it is.
[01:51] <daveake> Got me out of bed :/
[01:52] <daveake> And I'm trying to get over jet lag :(
[01:52] <nigelvh> Oh, you've got IRC alerts? Fuuuuuun
[01:52] <daveake> IRCCloud beeps when I get mentioned yes
[01:52] <daveake> and the speakers on my PC are quite loud :/
[01:52] <daveake> plus phone next to me ... that was a mistake!
[01:53] <nigelvh> Yeah, I've got it set up for no noise, it just highlights messages where my nick is mentioned.
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[01:55] <daveake> right, back to not-quite-sleep ....
[01:55] <nigelvh> Evening friend.
[01:55] <evilroots> IT WOKE ME UP
[01:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-8_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-8_LORA
[01:57] <ms7821> win 98
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[08:18] <fsphil> commodore 64
[08:19] <fsphil> the spammer last night didn't include me. I feel left out :)
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[08:21] <daveake> Aww fsphil :(
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[08:22] <fsphil> and it was so colourful too
[08:34] <vaizki> technicolor yawn missed me too
[08:50] <daveake> ceefax spam
[08:51] <fsphil> hah
[08:52] <fsphil> I must try adding teletext to my video thing sometime
[08:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP7VVI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP7VVI_chase
[08:52] <daveake> I could add it to my telnet HAB thing :)
[08:54] <daveake> Make it interactive ... page 101 for index, 102 for blinky telemetry, 103 for ceefax blocky image from the camera
[08:54] <daveake> Dammit, I'm going to be googling for "ceefax emulator" soon ...
[08:54] <fsphil> lol
[08:54] <fsphil> it is pointless to resist, the daaark side
[08:55] <russss> the other day I had a discussion about buying a load of Minitel terminals and running a Minitel network at EMF...
[08:55] <daveake> Thanks for reminding me ... need to book the cinema :)
[08:55] <fsphil> yes same
[08:56] <fsphil> russss: oooh good idea
[08:56] <fsphil> also do you need a low power analogue TV station? :)
[08:59] <gonzo_> 1200/75baud? brings back memories
[09:01] <fsphil> I remember reading about minitel, seemed to be way ahead of its time
[09:03] <gonzo_> I played woth prestel a bit, at the end of it's time
[09:04] <gonzo_> I had a 1200/75 terminal, brought from a rally. I used it on the RSGB bullitin board a few times
[09:04] <gonzo_> but it needed a paid for phone call (imagine that!) so the parents were not keen on it
[09:05] <gonzo_> I found they used the same terminal at the local supermarket, where I was doing my national service (shelf stacking, whish everyone tended to do as a saturday job)
[09:06] <gonzo_> and they had the login written down next to it
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[09:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PE2BZ after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPPHSONDE after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPPHSONDE
[11:22] <mwheeler> 1st 2nd and 3rd place for radiosonde detection goes to Australia. Rest of the world what are you doing, get you head in the game!
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[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:44] <fsphil> I blame the poor software ;-)
[11:46] <gonzo_> our excuse is, most UK ones go in the sea
[11:53] <vaizki> and we have trees
[11:54] <vaizki> .. without trained ninja-koalas
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[12:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RSYST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSYST
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[16:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP7VVI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP7VVI_chase
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[17:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[17:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[18:22] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[18:22] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Capital, BC, Canada 10(48.39774,-123.45452) at 0312776 meters about 038 minutes ago
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[19:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB02 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB02
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[21:25] <Babs_> Hi everyone - I am working on transmitting on APRS. Does anyone have an example of a typical parsed string including lat/long/time/basic telemetry that I could see to work out the basic format for the string?
[21:26] <Babs_> I've been on aprs.fi but clearly there is a lot of non-HAB stuff there and it is difficult to work out the basic format I should be using
[21:26] <Babs_> thanks
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[21:31] <dbrooke> I don't have an example string but the spec is http://www.aprs.org/doc/APRS101.PDF
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[21:33] <fsphil> I've some example code at https://github.com/fsphil/ax25beacon/blob/master/ax25beacon.c#L184-L191
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[21:36] <Babs_> Thanks both
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[21:38] <Babs_> I had been lookng on here http://tt7hab.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/aprs-automatic-packet-reporting-system.html
[21:39] <Babs_> which is a pretty good guide, until i got to the information field and then it started to go a bit whooshy..
[21:43] <fsphil> yeah aprs is a bit like that
[21:44] <fsphil> that string format was the simplest I could come up with
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[21:52] <TT7> Babs_: I saved all the APRS packets from my flights in APRS.fi format.. in case you'd like to see what the blog post attempted to describe in real life
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[21:55] <TT7> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Fb45Vo8uIsLTlDTWgyd0JvTUk
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[21:59] <TT7> if you want to fit lat, lon and telemetry as well in one packet, you'll have to use the Base-91 format
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[22:00] <TT7> all the possible packet formats that go in the 'Information Field' are described in the document dbrooke linked
[22:05] <Babs_> Hey TT7 - many thanks for your information repositry, its a phenomenal write up of your project
[22:09] <Babs_> I was actually looking at your sample packets in https://github.com/TomasTT7/TT7F-Float-Tracker/blob/master/Software/ARM_TT7F3.c
[22:09] <Babs_> but I couldn't link them to http://tt7hab.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/aprs-automatic-packet-reporting-system.html
[22:10] <Babs_> the sample packets all looked not to have a time stamp on, whereas the explanation in http://tt7hab.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/aprs-automatic-packet-reporting-system.html
[22:10] <Babs_> looked as if it did have a time stamp, for example
[22:11] <TT7> the blog describes three packet types
[22:12] <TT7> /210048h4916.54N/01814.58EOTT7Fhab this one is human readable with timestamp
[22:12] <Babs_> I also had a query to your sample packets as to whether you were actually sending the <0x03> for example, or just 3
[22:13] <TT7> you would have to send telemetry in a second packet in this format then: T#005,1275,2533,1005,1492,9,11000000
[22:14] <TT7> or you could use the third type, that I use on the actual flights, which compresses the both positional data and telemetry like this !/5LEGS*-/ON3W |!1B<m,|
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[22:16] <TT7> in APRS101.pdf you can read about a the third packet type with a different identifier that includes a timestamp as well
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[22:19] <TT7> do you mean the 'control field' 0x03? that has to be sent as bits '00000011'
[22:23] <TT7> I don't send the timestamp because it only wastes space and you get an acurate enough timestamp from the receiving station
[22:30] <Babs_> the example string ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ¤¦@@à~n<0x88>a¨v®<0x88>`d@c<0x03><0xF0>!/5MGoS(L_0GzW |!$!!#p+30n!!!"|<FCS><FCS>~~~
[22:30] <Babs_> from https://github.com/TomasTT7/TT7F-Float-Tracker/blob/master/Software/ARM_TT7F3.c
[22:31] <Babs_> I didn't know, for example, whether you were sending the <0x88>, <0x03> etc. as 6 characters each
[22:32] <Babs_> or just 10001000, 00000011 etc., so that answered that particular question
[22:33] <Babs_> I am looking to transmit between balloons and then retransmit, so the timestamp is important, but I should be able to factor that in now
[22:33] <TT7> no, just one character that the byte 0x03 represents... it is writen in that way, because there isn't an ASCII character for that byte
[22:33] <Babs_> ok understood
[22:35] <Babs_> I worked out backsolving the destination address, source address and path bytes by bitshifting the original string, but I have no clue why its necessary to do that in the first place!
[22:35] <TT7> in that case check the APRS101.pdf.. I think it should work just by changing the identifier and including the timestamp head of the lat lon data
[22:38] <Babs_> ok will do. thanks for your help, and again its a great blog you did there
[22:38] <TT7> yea, the whole protocol is a pain.. I too had spent a lot of time bitshifting example packets before it made sense
[22:39] <TT7> no problem
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[23:02] <Ian_> Upu quick question. in your article https://ava.upuaut.net/?p=750 was the dynamic mode code changed when you updated the article from Ublox MAX-7Q to Ublox MAX-8Q at all?
[23:11] <daveake> no
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-11 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-11
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[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
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[23:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPPHSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPPHSONDE
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[23:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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