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[02:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BB02 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB02
[02:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK2HAB-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK2HAB-9
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[06:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[08:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TA2MUN-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2MUN-11
[08:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SHSSP1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SHSSP1
[08:48] <Darkside> oh hey that still works :D
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[09:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03missionfindpiggy_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=missionfindpiggy_chase
[09:39] <Darkside> lolwat
[10:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL6OW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL6OW-11
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[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPPHSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPPHSONDE
[11:21] <mwheeler> Darkside: did they forget to launch the adelaide one?
[11:21] <mwheeler> :P
[11:21] <Darkside> hrm
[11:21] <Darkside> what did i break
[11:22] <fsphil> hah
[11:22] <Darkside> no launch yet
[11:22] <fsphil> maybe they're trolling you
[11:22] <Darkside> ok re-scanning now...
[11:23] <Darkside> still nothing yet
[11:23] <mwheeler> I'm waiting to pick one up that someones left a note inside the battery compartment for me
[11:24] <fsphil> reminds me, I need to setup a receiver here
[11:24] <Darkside> nothing yet, just the usual spurs
[11:24] <Darkside> oh yes - we shoudl add that to the issues list - spur removal
[11:24] <Darkside> basically just a list of blacklisted frequencies in the config file
[11:25] <mwheeler> ah yeah
[11:25] <fsphil> what's the link to the decoder again?
[11:25] <mwheeler> also the rockhampton one seems to only be weekdays at 0Z
[11:25] <mwheeler> fsphil: https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx
[11:25] <fsphil> ta
[11:25] <Darkside> new link now :-)
[11:26] <mwheeler> literally only got pushed to about 10 minutes ago
[11:26] <Darkside> mwheeler: can we make it run as non-root ?
[11:26] <mwheeler> yes
[11:26] <Darkside> would be nice for it to sit in the users home dir
[11:26] Action: mwheeler starts making issues
[11:26] Action: fsphil digs out a pi and rtlsdr from "the mountain of things"
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[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:29] <Darkside> there we go
[11:29] <Darkside> yep the launched late
[11:31] <fsphil> typical, can't find a microusb psu
[11:37] <Darkside> mwheeler: ok well thats a good start :P
[11:38] <mwheeler> easy part done, just gotta start closing them :P
[11:38] <Darkside> yeah lol
[11:38] <Darkside> the multiple sonde thing will be difficult
[11:38] <Darkside> it will probably involve multiple rtlsdrs
[11:39] <Darkside> if the spacing between the frequencies is too wide, you wont be able to do it with a single rtlsdr, and they get a big flaky at the higher receive bandwidths anyway
[11:39] <mwheeler> it's kind of bugging me (like a lot of things are lol) because depending on the spacing it a purely software problem
[11:39] <mwheeler> yeah
[11:40] <Darkside> the other option is multiple instances of the system that communicate
[11:40] <Darkside> i.e. if it sees that someone local has already started tracking on a particular frequency, just look for other sondes
[11:41] <mwheeler> ah yeah
[11:41] <Darkside> you'd then need some way of communicating what its doing
[11:41] <Darkside> also could this be done as a pip package?
[11:41] <mwheeler> It's kind of annoying here because they seem to launch many test balloons from the training area and I only end up tracking one
[11:41] <Darkside> though i guess a deb would be better for a rpi
[11:42] <Darkside> heh
[11:42] <mwheeler> why not both? :P
[11:42] <Darkside> hrm if you had a bank of rtlsdrs you could have one of them dedicated to scanning
[11:42] <Darkside> and just log what it detects
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[11:44] <fsphil> right, pi running
[11:44] <Darkside> anyway, let get what we have working nicely first
[11:44] <fsphil> on battery
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[11:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:51] <fsphil> why on earth do the instructions have it git cloining to /root ?
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[11:51] <Darkside> fsphil: blame mwheeler
[11:52] <Darkside> you dont need to do that
[11:52] <fsphil> I haven't
[11:52] <fsphil> seems to be fine
[11:52] <Darkside> just run up auto_rx.py as your own user
[11:52] <Darkside> mwheeler has an issue to fix it :P
[11:52] <mwheeler> yeah
[11:53] <mwheeler> more so if you want to use the service file it assumes the install location
[11:53] <mwheeler> and because I'm a terrible sys admin everything runs as root on my RS pi
[11:53] <fsphil> have you got a theme for the callsigns?
[11:53] <Darkside> ICAO code + SONDE
[11:54] <Darkside> i.e. YPADSONDE
[11:54] <Darkside> you should be able to copy the YPADSONDE payload doc
[11:54] <Darkside> and just change the callsigns
[11:54] <fsphil> my local site is not at an airport, not sure if thay'll have an icao code
[11:56] <mwheeler> well clearly the solution is to build an airport and then give it an ICAO code
[11:56] <Darkside> yes
[11:56] <Darkside> get to it fsphil
[11:57] Action: fsphil goes to amazon and orders 10000 boxes of lego
[12:02] <fsphil> ./auto_rx.sh: line 11: cd: /home/pi/RS/auto_rx/: No such file or directory
[12:02] <fsphil> what does it want with this directory?
[12:02] <Darkside> change auto_rx.sh
[12:02] <Darkside> >_>
[12:02] <mwheeler> I always just start it with python auto_rx.py
[12:03] <fsphil> I did, and it said that :p
[12:03] <fsphil> ctrl+c won't kill it now
[12:03] <fsphil> kill in another terminal worked fine
[12:03] <fsphil> oh no it didn't
[12:03] <Darkside> yeah ctrl+c odesnt work properly
[12:03] <Darkside> fun fun
[12:03] <mwheeler> killall -9 python; killall -9 rtl_fm; killall -9 rtl_power
[12:03] <fsphil> hehe it's still echoing stuff even though I have a prompt
[12:03] <Darkside> yeeeeeah
[12:04] <fsphil> killed python
[12:04] <Darkside> need to better handle that
[12:04] <fsphil> that did it
[12:04] <fsphil> ok trying again
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[12:06] <Darkside> fsphil: yeah, much work to be done to make this more usable
[12:06] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx/issues
[12:06] <Darkside> big issues list :P
[12:07] <fsphil> seems to be stuck with "RROR:Failed to read log_power.csv. Resetting RTLSDRs and attempting to run rtl_power again."
[12:07] <fsphil> just looping with that
[12:07] <Darkside> hrm
[12:07] <Darkside> check you can run rtl_power
[12:07] <Darkside> permissions, etc
[12:07] <mwheeler> is your rtl_sdr plugged in and accessible ?
[12:07] <Darkside> mwheeler: note: add in a 'check rtl utils accessible' test :-)
[12:07] <Darkside> in the installation teps
[12:08] <fsphil> certainly plugged in
[12:08] <mwheeler> yup. running rtl_test or something
[12:09] <fsphil> hmm a reboot of the pi seems to have made a difference
[12:09] <mwheeler> Darkside: the prediction seems broken for Melbourne sonde.
[12:09] <mwheeler> oh wait, working now
[12:09] <Darkside> hrm
[12:09] <Darkside> ok
[12:09] <fsphil> yes that's done it
[12:09] <fsphil> INFO:Peaks found at (MHz): [ 403.2]
[12:09] <Darkside> hah
[12:10] <Darkside> the same internal spur that we see
[12:10] <mwheeler> pretty sure that's the same one I see
[12:10] <Darkside> now you need to hook up the antenna
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[12:11] <fsphil> that is with an antenna
[12:11] <fsphil> lemme see if the sonde is even up
[12:11] <Darkside> should be up by now
[12:11] <fsphil> iirc the frequency was very near to that
[12:11] <mwheeler> Just ordered some antennas and connectors for parents roof
[12:11] <Darkside> oh now thats a point
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[12:11] <mwheeler> I imagine they'll be confused when the bits arrive lol
[12:11] <Darkside> the sonde frequency range in europe is different to here
[12:12] <Darkside> and there is more coordination than here
[12:12] <fsphil> ok no it was 402.7mhz here
[12:13] <Darkside> ours often change frequency
[12:13] <mwheeler> yours might, Melbourne is 401.5 every single time :P
[12:13] <mwheeler> heck they even send the training ones out at 401.5
[12:13] <Darkside> heh
[12:13] <mwheeler> and then launch the real one with 401.5
[12:13] <mwheeler> *shakes fist*
[12:14] <fsphil> hmm nothing
[12:15] <mwheeler> hmm would of expected to be one up now
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[12:15] <fsphil> yeah same
[12:15] <Darkside> do they not launch daily?
[12:15] <fsphil> I'll try a different antenna
[12:15] <fsphil> I normally only hear the midnight launch
[12:16] <mwheeler> could also try 1680mhz
[12:16] <fsphil> but they have definitly launched in the day before
[12:16] <mwheeler> ah
[12:16] <Darkside> mwheeler: ?
[12:16] <Darkside> 1680 mhz?
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[12:16] <Darkside> isnt that the US sondes
[12:16] <mwheeler> I thought europe as well
[12:17] <fsphil> don't believe so. not here anyway
[12:18] <mwheeler> ah
[12:18] <fsphil> here being N.Ireland
[12:18] <Darkside> its a particular type of sonde that uses that frequecy
[12:18] <Darkside> i suspect most of europe is flying vaisala sodndes
[12:18] <Darkside> sondes*
[12:18] <Darkside> either RS92s or RS41s
[12:19] <mwheeler> there are rs41 and 92 variants in that frequency, I was looking at noaa details when I was in the states
[12:19] <Darkside> heh
[12:19] <Darkside> weird
[12:20] <mwheeler> the antenna looks pretty funny on them
[12:21] <mwheeler> oh actually the funny antenna might just be the noaa ones because they have the mailing bag in it
[12:21] <mwheeler> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ops2/ops22/sfsc%20html/Guide%20to%20Dual%20Flight%20Operations-Vaisala%20RS92-NGP%20Preparation%20and%20Performance.pdf
[12:22] <PE2BZ> fsphil your from UK ? 404.200 is up
[12:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO6OW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO6OW-11
[12:23] <mwheeler> ah I think that's outside the default scan range
[12:23] <PE2BZ> 52.1 N 0.3 W @ 22 km altitude
[12:24] <fsphil> better antenna, definitly nothing on 402.7
[12:24] <fsphil> PE2BZ: yes I can see that one
[12:24] <PE2BZ> 402.7 is RS92 in Germany at the moment
[12:24] <fsphil> interesting it's not a continous signal
[12:24] <fsphil> the last sonde I heard was
[12:24] <PE2BZ> Idar Oberstein at 402.700
[12:25] <PE2BZ> The RS41 has a one second ¨data rate¨ and the Ozone ones have smaller gaps
[12:25] <PE2BZ> @ 405.300 is Meppen (GE) with another RS41
[12:26] <PE2BZ> My RX at the westcoast of the Netherlands: http://www.pe2bz.nl/hamradio/skymonitor/rtlTest_power.png
[12:26] <fsphil> INFO:Peaks found at (MHz): [ 403.2 400.96 404.4 403.4 401.4 400.99 400.93 404.23]
[12:26] <mwheeler> Darkside: do we know if any ozone sondes get launched here?
[12:26] <PE2BZ> refreshes every 5 minutes
[12:27] <fsphil> ah didn't detect it as a sonde
[12:28] <Darkside> mwheeler: very very rarely
[12:28] <Darkside> and unfortunately RS wont tell us if the sonde has an ozone sensor
[12:28] <mwheeler> hmm rs92ecc can out the aux bits, but I guess we won't know what they mean
[12:29] <Darkside> fsphil: it could be too weak to decode
[12:29] <Darkside> though it usually detects the presence of a sonde well below the decode threshold
[12:29] <fsphil> it sounded weak but fair in gqrx
[12:29] <Darkside> you need a decent signal to do the demod
[12:30] <Darkside> got a screenshot of it in gqrx?
[12:30] <fsphil> one sec
[12:34] <fsphil> https://i.imgur.com/Nvi9Nql.jpg
[12:35] <Darkside> thats a RS41
[12:35] <Darkside> and thats maybe slightly too weak to decode
[12:35] <Darkside> you can force it to try and do a detection in a frequency with python auto_rx.py -f 404.22
[12:36] <Darkside> though it will go back into scan mode if it fails to detect
[12:36] <fsphil> worth a try
[12:37] <Darkside> but yeah, the RS41 is 3db faster baud rate than the RS92 as well
[12:37] <fsphil> nope
[12:37] <Darkside> possibly too weak then
[12:38] <Darkside> which is annoying
[12:38] <fsphil> well the local one should hopefully be launched tonight
[12:38] <Darkside> i've done a little bit if work integrating drowe's fsk_demod
[12:38] <Darkside> but i didnt see a whole lot of improvement
[12:39] <Darkside> but it *was* very difficut to test
[12:39] <fsphil> tonight's castor bay launch might *just* make it to wales
[12:39] <Darkside> though i was trying to do MDS tests, when i should really be capturing some clean signals and adding noise and doing SNR tests
[12:40] <fsphil> I always wondered if the rfm modules could receive these, since they're just fsk
[12:41] <Darkside> the RS41s use a ST44xx chip
[12:41] <Darkside> but im not sure what they are transmitting woudl fit within the fifo of one of those chips
[12:41] <Darkside> plus im not really sure you'd get better performance out of one of those than out of a SDR flowchain
[12:41] <Darkside> i get pretty damn good performance out of a preamp + rtlsdr
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[12:52] <mwheeler> Darkside: have you seen this http://www.om3bc.com/docs/RS/RS_auto_rx_en.html
[12:52] <mwheeler> apparently has rotator control and blacklist
[12:52] <Darkside> yeah he sent me some patches
[12:53] <Darkside> but they were not easy to integrade
[12:53] <Darkside> integrate
[12:53] <Darkside> and were rather hacked in
[12:53] <mwheeler> ah
[12:53] <Darkside> je hacked in the FS232 protocol
[12:53] <Darkside> GS232*
[12:53] <mwheeler> oh lol
[12:53] <Darkside> whereas i want to make it talk to rotctld, so its more universal
[12:53] <Darkside> the rtlsdr_gain thing is worth looking at
[12:54] <Darkside> the launch time thing he mentions is irrelevant now that we run as a service
[12:55] <Darkside> anyway, i think we can get those features included in a better manner
[13:02] <fsphil> website lists the local site as: 00Z - (06Z - 12Z irregular)
[13:02] <fsphil> explains why there's no launch today
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[15:29] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[15:29] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Lingbao, Sanmenxia, Henan, China 10(34.56441,110.87881) at 0313221 meters about 038 hours ago
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[16:09] <K4KDR--Scott> Greetings! For U.S. HAB tracking on 144.39, is there a "go-to" consensus GPS/Transmitter combo that is the best balance of cost & quality? See lots of options online. Thanks!
[16:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://store.uputronics.com/ most of the items are designed specifically with HAB flights in mond!
[16:31] <K4KDR--Scott> Geoff-G8DHE: Thanks!!
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[16:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NN5RR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NN5RR-11
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[18:24] <PE2BZ> fsphil did you correct the PPM settings for the rtl device ? It looks about 20 kHz off
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[19:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[19:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
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[20:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 033153414479_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=3153414479_chase
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
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[23:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:31] <fsphil> hmm, no sign of my sonde
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[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[23:42] <Darkside> fsphil: :<
[23:42] <fsphil> mmm
[23:43] <fsphil> still nothing. they are not launching this late
[23:44] <fsphil> I'm keeping an eye out for the next nearest one
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[23:59] <Darkside> mwheeler: im working on the rtlsdr gain issue
[23:59] <fsphil> out of curiosity, what is that?
[23:59] <Darkside> well i'm disregarding the gain setting in the config file
[23:59] <fsphil> ah
[23:59] <fsphil> I did set that
[23:59] <Darkside> i had some issues early on with it
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