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[00:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[02:06] <ulfr^> hm
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[07:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10
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[07:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[08:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-11
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[11:03] <JDat> hello!
[11:03] <JDat> is it possible to find source code for habhub tracker server part source code?
[11:04] <JDat> I am interesing for datanew.php get_predictions.php receivers.php source code
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[11:09] <Mike-SA6BSS> you want to set up your own predictor for wx balloons?
[11:13] <JDat> yes
[11:13] <Mike-SA6BSS> here is the source I guess https://github.com/ukhas/habitat
[11:13] <JDat> actually I wan to setup own tracker with predict function
[11:14] <Darkside> fairly serious effort
[11:14] <Darkside> the code isnt all in one place
[11:14] <Darkside> and the predictor uses the entire gfs model, which as i understand it is many Gb worth of data
[11:14] <JDat> github/habitat didnt help me :(
[11:14] <Darkside> habitat is the database backend
[11:15] <JDat> question: why I need this?
[11:15] <Darkside> becuase thats where all the payload data is stored
[11:15] <JDat> I need something different from habitad, because ir MLAT tests
[11:16] <Darkside> the tracker itself is at https://github.com/ukhas/habitat-mobile-tracker
[11:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> JDat: you can ping David-SM0ULC he have set it up for me I cean@ 00 06 12 18 where the commings weeks balloon predictred to land
[11:16] <Darkside> but that calls into an older layer of stuff (the datanew.php, get_predictions.php, etc)
[11:16] <Darkside> and i don tthink the source code to that is up anywhere
[11:16] <Darkside> that code calls a binary predictor afaik
[11:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> when I have a landing within 3 days within 30km from my qth I get a mail
[11:16] <Darkside> hah
[11:17] <Darkside> i've been meaning to write something like that
[11:17] <Darkside> i ended up making a python wrapper to the cusf offline predictor: https://github.com/darksidelemm/cusf_predictor_wrapper
[11:18] <JDat> my MLAT (multilateration) packets differ from habitad, because each receiver send different data (toa - time of arrival), so I need own database for this. because tracker is great, I want to marry your tracker with my system.
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:19] <Darkside> JDat: can't collate the data somewhere?
[11:19] <Darkside> and then upload the calculated position?
[11:19] <JDat> well, it must wirk near realtime (5-10 sec delay)
[11:19] <JDat> work*
[11:20] <Darkside> thats what i mean, each receiver pushes their received data into a central server
[11:20] <Darkside> which then does the multilateration
[11:20] <Darkside> and then that central server pushes an estimated position into habitat
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:22] <JDat> hmm
[11:22] <Darkside> mwheeler: ^
[11:22] <JDat> interesting idea
[11:23] <Darkside> you wouldnt get an accurate altitude from multilateration though woudl you?
[11:23] <JDat> so intermedeate server/solver/proxy...
[11:23] <JDat> sounds great!
[11:23] <Darkside> so im not sure how the tracker will react
[11:23] <JDat> well
[11:23] <JDat> mlat is planned for 100KM amateur rocket
[11:23] <mwheeler> Darkside: another Melbourne victory
[11:24] <JDat> +/- 3 KM error is OK
[11:24] <Darkside> hrm, not sure the predictor is going to be *That* useeful then
[11:24] <JDat> well
[11:25] <JDat> we are using predictor for 1-2 KM rocket launch (together with openrocket) manually.
[11:25] <JDat> it kinda works fine
[11:25] <Darkside> so you just predict for the descent?
[11:25] <JDat> 100KM rocket is planned to launch from ~30 KM altitude (from baloon)
[11:26] <JDat> yes, mostly descent prediction
[11:27] <JDat> that is reason for near realtime prediction, because we need to make deciision about go/no go really quickly.
[11:28] <JDat> so, OK
[11:28] <JDat> i'll check what I can hack for habitat database and tracker idea
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[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPPHSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPPHSONDE
[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:40] <Darkside> mwheeler: getting closer to being able to extract the required data from a gps unit
[11:41] <Darkside> to be abel to produce an ephemeris file
[11:41] <mwheeler> Nice
[11:42] <Darkside> next trick is to produce the correct output format
[11:48] <Darkside> https://github.com/darksidelemm/ublox_ephemeris
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[11:48] <Darkside> just a start so far
[11:48] <Darkside> lots more to go
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[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RYDE after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RYDE
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[12:02] <Darkside> mwheeler: if you have time, it woudl be useful to know if the rs92 decoder falls over if the rinex file only contains a subset of the SV data
[12:02] <Darkside> i.e. is missing many of the sat records
[12:02] <Darkside> as when extracting ephemeris data from a ublox, you can only get the data for the SVs you can see...
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[12:08] <Darkside> https://github.com/darksidelemm/RS/blob/master/rs92/nav_gps_vel.c#L299
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[12:33] <RYDE> Hello, we are planning on going ahead with our launch today between 13:00 and 14:00 as listed on the tracker :)
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[12:43] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[14:00] <_Jordan> Is PE2BZ Here?
[14:00] <_Jordan> Hi guys by th way.
[14:00] <g0hdi> Hi
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[14:03] <_Jordan> Maybe someone else can help me out. I forgot some basic info for 50 baud setup. Is it 600 shift, 7N2?
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[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-2
[14:07] <_Jordan> f7ba1ec632d3733b85092831afde4aca
[14:07] <_Jordan> whoops wrong channelio
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[14:24] <g8fjg> RYDE did it stop txing or land in the Solent?
[14:29] <PE2BZ> shift is what you choose / define. 7n2 is ok
[14:32] <g8fjg> RYDE I see it now 300/600 .251 dial ish ...but weak
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[14:33] <RYDE> Hi, we have launched but currently lost signal! Is anybody else got a radio running?
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[14:37] <mattbrejza> freq?
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[14:38] <mattbrejza> nothing obvious on the websdr
[14:39] <G8FJG-ron> RYDE I see it on .251 300/600 but v weak ..no decodes yet due to qrm
[14:40] <G8FJG-ron> $$RYDE,35 21:#9>1,5¿û3806:.0/w,<05,104,91aR-097.5<
[14:42] <RYDE> ok thanks for letting us know!! Worried that the antenna may have become unplugged :(
[14:42] <RYDE> it was set to transmit on 434.250
[14:42] <G8FJG-ron> thats what it looks like
[14:43] <daey> at least the username decoded fine :^)
[14:44] <daey> does it have something valuable on board? I.e. were you planning to collect it?
[14:44] <G8FJG-ron> 300 baud is difficult at best...soon be out of the qrm bearing...I might get decodes
[14:44] <RYDE> It's the second time we've sent this one up - last time we got as far as Germany and had it sent back to us by a very nice person!
[14:44] <RYDE> Went for a 1m/s ascent rate so were hoping to better our distance this time
[14:45] <RYDE> Would have been nice to recover it - We used a raspberry pi and pi in the sky module
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[14:46] <RYDE> Where about are you based G8FJG-ron? :)
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[14:51] <G8FJG-ron> 22k east of London
[14:51] <G8FJG-ron> you can see me on the map
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[14:53] <RYDE> Ah ok thanks!!
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[14:55] <RYDE> Are you still picking up a faint signal or has it gone now?
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[14:56] <G8FJG-ron> Got you on both my antenna systems ..one is only 10 ft above ground , but steerable in az and el
[14:56] <SIbot2> In real units: 10 ft = 3.05 m
[14:56] <G8FJG-ron> 3.05 m
[14:57] <G8FJG-ron> all the sig is vpol no hpol component so must still be slightly coupled into its antenna
[14:59] <G8FJG-ron> F5APQ may have more luck if he's around
[14:59] <RYDE> how frustrating! - We are running this flight as a school project are very much novices. Do you think it likely that a clear signal might be picked up at some point again throughout the flight?
[14:59] <G8FJG-ron> ^^^
[15:11] <G8FJG-ron> https://i.imgur.com/qL2dxid.jpg ....right screen is azel antenna..almost gone from my az only antenna
[15:12] <G8FJG-ron> it is unfortunate to be right in the .250 qrm
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[15:14] <RYDE> not sure what qrm is?
[15:17] <G8FJG-ron> interference
[15:17] <G8FJG-ron> there are nearly always many other signals on .250
[15:19] <G8FJG-ron> sometimes using large a yagi can be a pain . caus you can "hear" all the signals from here to the stars
[15:20] <G8FJG-ron> the azel antenna can track upwards and look over man made interference
[15:20] <RYDE> ahhh ok, that makes sense!
[15:23] <G8FJG-ron> I've lost your signal now because the qrm is so great it swamps my receivers... best of luck..... if you try again use 50baud and add 12.5khz to any round freq you intend to use
[15:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0190 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0190
[15:24] <G8FJG-ron> ie not 434.250 but 434.262500
[15:25] <G8FJG-ron> cheers
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[15:25] <RYDE> ok thanks very much for all your help! :)
[15:25] Nick change: Hi -> Guest5181
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[15:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0189 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0189
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[15:45] <g0hdi> I've been searchng up and down the frequencies using sdr but can't see any sigs. Thought somethung wrong with my receiver/antenna as only across the water at Calshot. Radio checks out with aprs beacons lower down, so don't know what's up, sorry
[15:46] <g0hdi> Didn't realise you had actually launched.
[15:49] <RYDE> OK thanks for looking - I think it must be that the transmitting antenna was damaged / dislodged on launch :(
[15:50] <g0hdi> Bad luck that
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[16:30] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[16:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Tamanrasset Province, Algeria 10(28.48107,4.96215) at 0312999 meters about 0313 minutes ago
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[20:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0192 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0192
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPPHSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPPHSONDE
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[23:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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