highaltitude.log.20171209

[00:00] <Darkside> mwheeler: gm nice day for a drive?
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[00:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_chase
[00:03] <Darkside> :-)
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[00:18] <mwheeler> Yeah. Nice area too
[00:19] <Darkside> right im heading off
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[00:19] <Darkside> first team to recover their sonde buys the other team a beer when we next meet
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[00:24] <Darkside> other way around
[00:24] <Darkside> you get what i mean :P
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[00:38] <Darkside> hah, mine might land *in* one tree hill
[00:39] <Darkside> (where, for those in other countries, there is definitely more than one tree)
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[00:42] <Darkside> cmon burst already... i want it to land inthe main street of one tree hill :D
[00:43] <Darkside> aaaand burst :D
[00:44] <Darkside> i might get my wish
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[00:52] <Darkside> hrm lots of electric fences around here
[00:52] <Darkside> and horses
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[01:04] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[01:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Valdez-Cordova, AK, USA 10(60.48107,-145.03785) at 0311999 meters about 03a day ago
[01:08] <Darkside> damnit
[01:08] <Darkside> this is not going to work well
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[01:17] <Darkside> ok i know where it is
[01:17] <Darkside> think i have found the landowners
[01:17] <Darkside> bbl
[01:23] <Darkside> grr electric fences
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[01:36] <tweetBot> @darksidelemm: Found it! Today's @BOM_SA radiosonde.. #hamradio #ukhas https://t.co/LdXD7ffgTf
[01:42] <Darkside> recovered :D
[01:42] <Darkside> right now to head home
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[02:11] <Darkside> mwheeler: gm i take it you got yours?
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[02:14] <Darkside> oh wait... last position 2km alt >_>
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[02:25] <mwheeler> Tricky one. Very little signal
[02:26] <Darkside> get a few bearings and plot on map
[02:29] <mwheeler> Yeah
[02:33] <mwheeler> Very hilly terrain so had to drive around a bit too find the sonde signal
[02:42] <mwheeler> Recovered
[02:42] <Darkside> one hour after me
[02:42] <Darkside> :P
[02:42] <mwheeler> Well we drove to the wrong side of the hill :p
[02:42] <Darkside> heh
[02:47] <Darkside> so any sign of another launch?
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[03:16] <mwheeler> Checking now
[03:16] <mwheeler> Nope :(
[03:16] <mwheeler> Gathered as much
[03:17] <mwheeler> Darkside: ah I didn't see the beer message. I'll still buy you a beer though
[03:19] <mwheeler> We had a chat with the land owner here. They have found some in the past on their properties
[03:20] <mwheeler> Ours followed prediction pretty spot on
[03:20] <Darkside> cool
[03:20] <mwheeler> Hit 28km up
[03:20] <Darkside> at least we have the predictions working now
[03:20] <G0pai_Ian> Big bit of land rather than incredibly lucky small plot
[03:20] <mwheeler> Yeah
[03:21] <mwheeler> We wasted a bit of time trying to find the signal on the wrong side of the hill but couldn't see the sat imagery to work out what road to take to get to the other side
[03:22] <G0pai_Ian> Beer for Sonde programme with monthly collections!
[03:22] <G0pai_Ian> It would save a lot of mileage but probably not be as much fun
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[09:23] <mwheeler> Today's fun : https://www.facebook.com/theskorm/posts/1468621793244792
[09:33] <Darkside> :D
[09:46] <mwheeler> all righty. rs41 time
[09:47] <mwheeler> Also need to get my car laptop up and running too
[09:49] <Darkside> oziplotter?
[09:49] <Darkside> :-)
[09:50] <mwheeler> hehe, maybe, might just run stackptr locally :P
[09:50] <Darkside> the predictor is the important thing
[09:51] <mwheeler> though that area didn't have the roads in OSM :(
[09:51] <Darkside> live predictions *Really* help
[09:51] <mwheeler> yeah
[09:53] <Darkside> thats the other thing that needs lookign at - better grabbing of wind data for oziplotter
[10:16] <mwheeler> I just pushed rs41 code that needs testing. I also noticed that rs1729 pushed new code with demodulators in a new location as well - https://github.com/rs1729/RS/tree/master/demod
[10:18] <mwheeler> it looks like the other one with some slight changes
[10:27] <Darkside> hrm
[10:27] <Darkside> yeah i dont know what his intentions are
[10:27] <Darkside> i havent found him in an IRC channel yet
[10:27] <Darkside> or anywhere else for that matter
[10:28] <PE2BZ> Darkside how is your German ?
[10:28] <Darkside> non-existent
[10:28] <Darkside> which means i suspect i will have issues :-)
[10:28] <PE2BZ> Let´s not start about your issues now ;-)
[10:29] <Darkside> lol
[10:29] <PE2BZ> You know about this topic ? http://www.fingers-welt.de/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=43&hilit=rs41&start=2575
[10:29] <Darkside> nope
[10:29] <PE2BZ> That´s because of your issues :-P
[10:30] <PE2BZ> In that topic Zilog80 writes every now and then about his software and his thoughts
[10:30] <PE2BZ> And every now and then I feed him with IQ data from sondes he does not receive
[10:30] <Darkside> heh
[10:30] <Darkside> ok
[10:31] <Darkside> well all still RS92s around here
[10:31] <Darkside> except for the RS41 you sent me :-)
[10:31] <Darkside> interestingly it seems to kind of jump frequency occasionally
[10:33] <Darkside> christ why is the repository so big
[10:33] <Darkside> oh theres audio samples in there
[10:33] <mwheeler> gm: du hast mich german
[10:33] <Darkside> ugh
[10:34] <Darkside> mwheeler: setting up to test your code now
[10:34] <mwheeler> ah cool
[10:35] <Darkside> hrm
[10:35] <Darkside> bombing out
[10:36] <Darkside> hmmmm
[10:36] <mwheeler> hmm, any error messages?
[10:36] <Darkside> i think its to do with the usage of timeout
[10:36] <mwheeler> oh are you trying to test on OSX?
[10:37] <Darkside> yes
[10:37] <mwheeler> ah
[10:37] <Darkside> just changed the timeout line
[10:37] <mwheeler> I isntalled the gnu tools using homebrew and then use this
[10:37] <mwheeler> export PATH="/usr/local/opt/coreutils/libexec/gnubin:$PATH"
[10:37] <mwheeler> ah yeah
[10:37] <Darkside> urgh homebrew
[10:37] <Darkside> im using magports
[10:37] <Darkside> ok running scan
[10:37] <Darkside> foind RS41
[10:37] <Darkside> found
[10:37] <Darkside> seems to work
[10:38] <mwheeler> neat
[10:38] <Darkside> 2017-12-09 21:07:55,526 INFO:TELEMETRY: 00000000,303,2017-12-09T10:38:11.001Z,-34.72078,138.69280,85.8,True
[10:38] <Darkside> the 00000 is normal i think
[10:38] <Darkside> the sonde appears to have a few 'issues'
[10:38] <mwheeler> oh
[10:38] <Darkside> its humped frequency on me
[10:38] <Darkside> jumped
[10:38] <Darkside> as in, when i got it it was on 404.5 MHz
[10:38] <Darkside> now its on 405.5 MHz
[10:38] <mwheeler> that should have serial number
[10:38] <mwheeler> ah
[10:38] <Darkside> and its not broadcasting a serial number any more
[10:38] <mwheeler> maybe some bits are missing in the eeprom :P
[10:38] <Darkside> so yeah
[10:38] <Darkside> go figure
[10:39] <mwheeler> lol
[10:39] <Darkside> anyway i think it working
[10:39] <mwheeler> Test it out after christmas :)
[10:40] <Darkside> yes
[10:40] <Darkside> we need to figure out that trip
[10:40] <Darkside> i.e. can we book accomodation soemwhere, and cancel maybe 3 days before if we need to
[10:40] <mwheeler> ah yeah
[10:40] <Darkside> because we wont really know until a few days out if its going to be a successful trip or not
[10:40] <mwheeler> hopefully not too expensive being holiday season
[10:40] <Darkside> theres that too
[10:40] <Darkside> might need to make it after new year
[10:41] <PE2BZ> Darkside how dit you add that one MHz ?
[10:41] <Darkside> PE2BZ: i have no idea!
[10:41] <Darkside> i think i ight have zapped something
[10:41] <mwheeler> Darkside: have you seen this btw https://github.com/df8oe/RS41HUP ?
[10:41] <Darkside> yes lol
[10:41] <Darkside> i think PE2BZ uses it
[10:41] <Darkside> mwheeler: PE2BZ send me the RS41 i have
[10:41] <Darkside> sent*
[10:42] <mwheeler> ah cool
[10:42] <Darkside> mwheeler: i also have a stlink and a suitable programming cable
[10:42] <Darkside> with the appropriate 2mm pitch connector which was a bitch to deal with
[10:42] <PE2BZ> I tried the RS41HUP but ran into problems with the string not being compliant with the habhub protocol.
[10:43] <mwheeler> Darkside: in mt gambier can we shoot down the sonde with a bb gun just after launch so that they launch two?
[10:43] <Darkside> lol
[10:43] <PE2BZ> The callsign did add spaces or something and got rejected at the parser.
[10:43] <mwheeler> (just kiddingh ofcourse)
[10:43] <Darkside> i think the ato launcher is too far away
[10:43] <Darkside> we should actually ring the field office ahead of time and find out if we can get a tour of the launcher
[10:43] <PE2BZ> mwheeler aim for the balloon please ...
[10:44] <PE2BZ> just above the parachute would be okay
[10:44] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: not sure it really matters with a bb gun and the distance we'd be shooting
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[10:45] <Darkside> mwheeler: https://vimeo.com/19862362
[10:46] <mwheeler> oh yeah I've watched that. Looks pretty cool
[10:46] <Darkside> yeah
[10:46] <Darkside> i think you can just about see it from the road
[10:47] <Darkside> cant see it in street view though
[10:47] <Darkside> hrm
[10:47] <Darkside> anyway
[10:47] <Darkside> accomodation options fo the week after new year i think
[10:47] <Darkside> we could get a cabin or something
[10:48] <Darkside> go down for a few days - chase morning sonde, explore mt gambier area in the afternoon, then dinner then chase evening sonde, then sleep
[10:48] <Darkside> repeat for a few days straight :P
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[10:51] <mwheeler> we start work on the 4th
[10:51] <Darkside> ah
[10:51] <Darkside> we dont start until the 8th or something
[10:52] <mwheeler> I wonder if we should camp somewhere if it's not to busy
[10:52] <Darkside> ehh i'd prefer a cabin if possible
[10:52] <mwheeler> ah yeah
[10:52] <Darkside> want to be nice and relaxed for the mornings hunt :P
[10:52] <mwheeler> plus we don't have a tent
[10:52] <mwheeler> which makes camping hard
[10:52] <Darkside> yes
[10:52] <Darkside> just a bit
[10:53] <PE2BZ> Darkside http://www.fingers-welt.de/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=43&p=210802&hilit=demod#p210802
[10:53] <PE2BZ> That´s the story about the demod files. Frame header recognision with correlation
[10:53] <PE2BZ> or something like that
[10:53] <Darkside> ah ok
[10:54] <Darkside> probably not worth going to that then
[10:54] <PE2BZ> Seems to have a little better GPS position decoding
[10:54] <Darkside> we dont really have issues with signal strength here
[10:55] <Darkside> hrm
[10:55] <Darkside> i mean, i dont really have huge issues with rs92gps
[10:55] <Darkside> you get the occasional glitch, sure
[10:55] <Darkside> but i'm not expecting miracles here
[10:55] <Darkside> what we need to do on our end is some kind of filtering out of 'bad' positions
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[11:01] <Darkside> PE2BZ: somewhat disturbingly, we have seen RS92s with the 'N' serial number prefix, which suggests the local met office has been buying RS92s in 2017 :(
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[11:02] <PE2BZ> That hurts...
[11:02] <Darkside> i know right
[11:02] <Darkside> how dare they continue to use tried and tested technology, how dare they save money by postponing base station upgrades!
[11:03] <Darkside> i want magical stm32 dev boards to rain from the sky!
[11:03] <PE2BZ> Sometimes they will drop by ;-)
[11:04] <mwheeler> Darkside: I guess we'll probably see them launching them from the training site first here
[11:04] <mwheeler> So we might have some early warning :P
[11:04] <Darkside> quite possibly
[11:04] <Darkside> hence we need to get a database up!
[11:04] <Darkside> email alerts as soon as a RS41 is spotted :-)
[11:05] <mwheeler> Yeah I might do that soon since all my logs are sitting on Pi SD cards
[11:05] <Darkside> could we run a db on a server somewhere?
[11:05] <mwheeler> plus I need to do some analytics - looks like melbourne burst alt is actually more like 25km
[11:05] <mwheeler> yupppp
[11:05] <Darkside> and have some way of pushing in data
[11:05] <mwheeler> yup
[11:05] <Darkside> i have a VPS sitting mostly-unused
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB01 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB01
[11:16] <Darkside> brace for radiosondes
[11:18] Action: mwheeler braces
[11:18] <Darkside> hrm
[11:18] <Darkside> Dec 9 11:17:52 sonderx python[17981]: 2017-12-09 11:17:52,557 ERROR:Failed to read log_power.csv. Resetting RTLSDRs and attempting to run rtl_power again.
[11:18] <Darkside> Dec 9 11:17:52 sonderx python[17981]: 2017-12-09 11:17:52,832 INFO:Resetting device: /dev/bus/usb/001/004
[11:18] <Darkside> Dec 9 11:17:52 sonderx python[17981]: 2017-12-09 11:17:52,845 ERROR:Errors occured while attempting to reset USB device.
[11:18] <Darkside> uh oh
[11:18] <mwheeler> hmmm
[11:18] <Darkside> yeah its not working
[11:19] <Darkside> hrm and i cant seem to stop the service
[11:19] <Darkside> ohw ait
[11:19] <Darkside> there we go
[11:19] <mwheeler> here we go
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:20] <mwheeler> Darkside: having issues running it as a service?
[11:20] <Darkside> ok killed off a few leftover processes
[11:20] <Darkside> yeah i noticed a leftover rtl_fm
[11:20] <Darkside> not sure where from
[11:20] <mwheeler> ah
[11:20] <Darkside> killed them off and trying again now
[11:20] <Darkside> ok this isnt looking good
[11:20] <Darkside> rtl_power isnt finishing a scan correctly
[11:21] <Darkside> and it cant seem to reset the usb device
[11:21] <Darkside> going to do a reboot
[11:21] <mwheeler> oh I see WorkingDirectory=/root/RS/auto_rx/ in the systemd file
[11:21] <mwheeler> make sure you update that to your path
[11:21] <Darkside> hrm
[11:21] <Darkside> i have it running in root
[11:22] <Darkside> i thought that was intentional
[11:22] <mwheeler> and in the same location?
[11:22] <mwheeler> shouldn't have an issue then
[11:22] <Darkside> hrm
[11:22] <Darkside> interesting, not detecting the sonde on 401.490
[11:22] <Darkside> when it sure as hell should
[11:23] <mwheeler> hmmm
[11:23] <Darkside> hrm
[11:23] <Darkside> oh
[11:23] <Darkside> i am an idiot
[11:23] <PE2BZ> +1
[11:24] <Darkside> forgot an important step
[11:24] <Darkside> (to build)
[11:24] <PE2BZ> lol
[11:24] <mwheeler> lol
[11:24] <Darkside> here w ego
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:24] <Darkside> uhm
[11:24] <Darkside> its got some errors
[11:25] <Darkside> oh, you're broken the oziplotter stuff
[11:25] <PE2BZ> It´s time for hardware to understand what we want and do what is needed for that...
[11:25] <Darkside> you've*
[11:25] <mwheeler> oh
[11:25] <Darkside> mwheeler: there needs to be a short_time field in the telemetry dict
[11:25] <Darkside> which needs to be HH:MM:SS
[11:25] <mwheeler> ah
[11:25] <Darkside> of the current UTC day
[11:25] <mwheeler> one sec I can fix that
[11:26] <Darkside> not urgent
[11:26] <Darkside> but yeah :P
[11:26] <Darkside> just enable the oziplotter output and you'll see what i mean
[11:28] <Darkside> right, need to do a bit more soldering before bed
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[11:35] <mwheeler> I think fixed
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[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[12:17] <Darkside> phew done
[12:17] <Darkside> https://photos.app.goo.gl/JyIfVW29QXrZGodB3
[12:17] <Darkside> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dBqWHrFSeoeK0VmW2
[12:18] <Darkside> will start on the preamp to go with that tomorrow..
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[13:07] <PE2BZ> Any Arduino help available ? Trying to figure out where ¨serial.print¨ gets its data from...
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[13:08] <PE2BZ> https://pastebin.com/CRk81NKW
[13:09] <PE2BZ> It reads the GPS, writes the data on the serial monitor but I would like to catch that into a string
[13:10] <Darkside> sorry, how do you mean 'gets its data from' ?
[13:12] <PE2BZ> I might be mis reading, but I suppose that this part:
[13:12] <PE2BZ> for (int i=0;i<12;i++){
[13:12] <PE2BZ> switch(i){
[13:12] <PE2BZ> case 0 :Serial.print("Time in UTC (HhMmSs): ");break;
[13:12] <PE2BZ> case 1 :Serial.print("Status (A=OK,V=KO): ");break;
[13:12] <PE2BZ> case 2 :Serial.print("Latitude: ");break;
[13:12] <Darkside> it looks like its just printing the 'label' for the data
[13:12] <Darkside> and then on line 53 it prints out the bit of the buffer that has the data in it
[13:13] <Darkside> yep thats whats going on
[13:13] <PE2BZ> So, when case 0 is true, it prints that label and linea which corresponds to the data
[13:13] <Darkside> yes
[13:13] <PE2BZ> so far so good.
[13:13] <Darkside> well in all cases its printing stuff from linea
[13:14] <PE2BZ> yes, but every ¨case¨ the corresponding linea
[13:14] <Darkside> yeah, so its going through, hunting for ',' instances, putting their index into an array
[13:14] <Darkside> and then for each array index (and i see it assumes there will be 12 fields), it prints the contents of that field
[13:15] <PE2BZ> So I guess it should be possible to create 2 strings, one with the longitude and one with the lattitude for starting. Let me give that a try...
[13:15] <Darkside> do you *really* need to re-implement a NMEA parser?
[13:15] <Darkside> surely there are well tested libraries for this
[13:15] <Darkside> i realise its like a rite of passage when working with GPS units
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[14:12] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping?
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[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[15:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[15:47] <mfa298> cm13g09: pong
[15:55] <cm13g09> mfa298: Just going out - back in ~1.5 hr
[15:55] <cm13g09> maybe 2hr
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[17:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6JBJ-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6JBJ-14
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[18:11] <cm13g09> mfa298: back - albeit briefly if you're around?
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[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
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[19:12] <cm13g09> mfa298: Will be on-and-off IRC all evening - drop me a message here, or text me if/when you're around
[19:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZL1AB-0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZL1AB-0
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[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZL1AB-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZL1AB-1
[19:28] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[19:28] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 is over 03Ottawa County, KS, USA 10(39.14774,-97.78785) at 0313221 meters
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[20:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB01 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB01
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[21:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0PIM-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0PIM-11
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[21:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03504 5182886_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=504%205182886_chase
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[21:27] <Bob_ZL1RS> oops, just transmitted locally with another BBxx balloon TX - blush
[21:29] <Bob_ZL1RS> that screwed up the BB01 tracking map :(
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[21:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03XX after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
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[23:01] <mariusvr> Hi, Could I have flight document b8c6efd6df0eb4c84bd0382dc82e355b approved? we are launching tomorrow. Thank you.
[23:01] <mariusvr> ZL1AB is the document name
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> mariusvr: #habhub IIRC
[23:02] <mariusvr> thanks speed devil, Will change to that channel. Sorry for selecting the wrong IRC.
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[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[23:33] <mwheeler> ah you win this time Darkside
[23:33] <Darkside> heh
[23:33] <Darkside> you going after this one?
[23:34] <Darkside> looks like it ight be recoverable, if it gets above 23km or so and starts to head back wet
[23:35] <Darkside> if it bursts early or oesnt go too high, it might end up in the forest area to teh east of healsville
[23:35] <mwheeler> wasn't going to but kind of looks tempting
[23:37] <mwheeler> ugh, if it heads into that forest it's gone forever though
[23:37] <Darkside> yeah
[23:37] <Darkside> lol
[23:37] <Darkside> this may be our problem at mt gabiner too
[23:37] <Darkside> gambier*
[23:37] <Darkside> lots of forests
[23:37] <Darkside> if lands in the top of a pine plantation we are essentially screwed
[23:39] <Darkside> thats not looking good
[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:43] <mwheeler> hmmm
[23:44] <mwheeler> I'm thinking about sticking kalman filtering on, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea
[23:44] <Darkside> you mean on the ascent rate?
[23:44] <mwheeler> yeah
[23:45] <Darkside> i had considered doing a running average thting for a while
[23:45] <Darkside> need to think how it would handle just after burst
[23:45] <mwheeler> not sure how it would go on altitude and lat lng, I think some testing required
[23:45] <Darkside> mmk
[23:45] <Darkside> bacj later
[23:46] <mwheeler> kk. going for the chase?
[23:49] <Darkside> nah
[23:49] <Darkside> housework
[23:52] <mwheeler> ah
[23:52] <mwheeler> fun
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