highaltitude.log.20171125

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[00:09] <Darkside> mwheeler: http://spacenear.us/tracker/datanew.php?mode=Position&type=positions&format=json&max_positions=1&vehicles=YMMLSONDE
[00:10] <Darkside> this doesnt access the habitat db directly (which wouldbe ideal) but i guess it would do
[00:12] <mwheeler> Darkside: yeah that's what I'm using
[00:12] <mwheeler> (just picking up some SD cards from PLE before you ask why we are stopping here :P )
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[00:20] <Darkside> mwheeler: hah
[00:21] <Darkside> mwheeler: so now we need a python app to take data from tht interface, and push it into ozimux...
[00:22] <mwheeler> I was thinking about reworking things so everything comes and goes via a MQTT broker so it's easier to swap out components
[00:23] <Darkside> hm
[00:23] <Darkside> maybe?
[00:24] <Darkside> im not that familiar with MQTT
[00:31] <Laurenceb_> oh dear
[00:31] <Laurenceb_> I know the guy who created it
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[00:34] <Laurenceb_> no he isnt here
[00:35] <Laurenceb_> so I can say he is an a-hole
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[00:39] <Darkside> mwheeler: hopwfully it bursts soon!
[00:39] <Darkside> else this will not end well
[00:40] <mwheeler> <gm> suspect it has.... not seeing it on the radio...
[00:40] <Darkside> also its directly above you
[00:40] <Darkside> thats not going to make things easy
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[00:45] <mwheeler> <gm> hmm, this isn't looking good
[00:48] <mwheeler> <gm> now the prediction changed to across the peninsula and in the sea on the *other* side
[00:50] <Darkside> uh oh
[00:50] <Darkside> no wait now its looking better
[00:50] <Darkside> sorry i am busy doing amateur radio contesting
[00:51] <Darkside> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ggECrNeLz5qZXgT23
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[01:09] <mwheeler> <gm> please land on the golf course...
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[01:13] <mwheeler> <gm> damnit, fell short
[01:15] <Darkside> lol
[01:15] <Darkside> looks recoverably though
[01:15] <Darkside> oh wait
[01:15] <Darkside> that might be in a property
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[01:15] <Darkside> i bet you can see it, but cant get it
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[01:20] <mwheeler> <gm> nope, was tangled in power lines on the footpath
[01:20] <Darkside> ooh
[01:20] <Darkside> power lines
[01:20] <mwheeler> <gm> was sitting on the road with string clotheslining the road
[01:20] <Darkside> haha
[01:20] <Darkside> should have got a picture of that
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[01:20] <Darkside> and put it on twitter with @BOM_VIC tagged
[01:21] <mwheeler> <gm> was more concerned with the ute following us not clotheslining it
[01:21] <Darkside> yeah
[01:21] <Darkside> but still, nice work :P
[01:22] <Darkside> mwheeler: suggest you start writing the date and recovery suburb on the sonde
[01:23] <Darkside> like 2017-11-25 00Z
[01:23] <Darkside> easier to keep track
[01:23] <Darkside> or maybe a webpage where we could enter in the ones recovered?
[01:24] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, was thinking i'd build that
[01:32] <Darkside> would be good to keep a record i think
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[01:44] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, am dropping pins in the "gm/mwheeler melbourne spots" stackptr group
[01:49] <mwheeler> Also I'm wearing the Linux conf au Canberra shirt with the balloons in it :)
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[05:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0303414070_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=03414070_chase
[05:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[06:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03x5_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=x5_chase
[07:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[10:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SV3CIX-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX-11
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[10:50] <mwheeler> probably going to try for tonight's as well with the new base station antenna
[11:04] <Darkside> isnt it landing in the sea?
[11:05] <Darkside> hmm nope
[11:05] <Darkside> lol
[11:05] <Darkside> ok yeah you need to come to mt gambier and we can do this for like 3 days straight
[11:05] <Darkside> try and recover 6 sondes
[11:05] <Darkside> sounds like fun to me
[11:05] <mwheeler> yeah
[11:05] <mwheeler> will do
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:26] <mwheeler> Darkside: I win!
[11:27] <Darkside> lol
[11:27] <Darkside> so either my new antenna is shit, or they havent launched yet
[11:29] <Darkside> possibly both
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[11:31] <Darkside> ok im only just barely hearing it now
[11:31] <Darkside> on the high-gain vert
[11:31] <Darkside> its just getting stronger now, i think it'll detect it on the next scan
[11:32] <Darkside> ok, detected it
[11:32] <Darkside> aaaand....
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:32] <Darkside> yep, late launch
[11:32] <Darkside> yay my antenna is perhaps not terrible
[11:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase
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[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:44] <Darkside> uhm
[11:44] <Darkside> mwheeler: what the heck
[11:44] <Darkside> mwheeler: i think your balloon has a leak
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[11:45] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, wut
[11:45] <Darkside> be warned - they will probably launch a second balloon shortly
[11:45] <Darkside> so once your receivers lose lock, they will probably lock on to the second launch
[11:45] <Darkside> anyway, this is interesting
[11:46] <Darkside> i suspect as it falls, the hole in the balloon might close up or something
[11:46] <Darkside> and it might float...
[11:47] <Darkside> ok yeah this is weird
[11:47] <Darkside> what the hell
[11:48] <mwheeler> <gm> it's going up again
[11:48] <Darkside> i notice i am confused.
[11:49] <mwheeler> <gm> storm conditions are heavy here, so it may have been forced downwards
[11:49] <Darkside> oh ok
[11:49] <Darkside> that could do it
[11:49] <Darkside> lol and the radar is down
[11:50] <Darkside> doesnt bode well for recovery though
[11:50] <Darkside> it will probably go a lot further now
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[11:55] <Darkside> mwheeler: probably not worth going after that one
[11:55] <Darkside> thats going to go a long way
[11:59] <mwheeler> <gm> mwheeler likes driving, haven't you figured this out yet? :P
[12:01] <Darkside> lol
[12:01] <Darkside> yeah but this one could go off the coast
[12:02] <Darkside> also i suspect they will have launched a second sonde by now
[12:02] <Darkside> but be careful with that, as it could do weird shit to the map if you have 2 stations uploading differnt sondes to teh same callsign
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[12:14] <Darkside> mwheeler: i'd be seriosuly thinking about giving up on that particular launch, and seeing if you can scan for another sonde
[12:14] <mwheeler> <gm> we are, just finding somewhere to stop
[12:14] <Darkside> and you will probably want to stop the receiver at your house, if you can
[12:14] <Darkside> either that or upload under a different callsign
[12:15] <Darkside> i can st up YMMLSONDE2 for you
[12:15] <Darkside> ok done
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[12:15] <Darkside> you can use YMMLSONDE2 to upload from your car
[12:16] <Darkside> leave home station tracking YMMLSONDE as it is
[12:16] <Darkside> and see if you can lock onto a second launch from your car
[12:27] <Darkside> mwheeler: there you go
[12:27] <Darkside> that looks a bit more promising
[12:28] <Darkside> makes the map look a mess
[12:28] <mwheeler> <gm> ahh... sorry, was messing with it io try and find the other one
[12:28] <mwheeler> <gm> it's on 402.43...
[12:29] <Darkside> the second one?
[12:29] <Darkside> ok
[12:29] <Darkside> you know one way we could do this (and the Habitat admins will murder me for suggesting it), is to automatically generate a new payload document for the sonde's serial number
[12:30] <Darkside> though that will mean there will be a LOT of payload documents generated
[12:35] <mwheeler> <gm> that actually sounds like what we should be doing...
[12:35] <Darkside> maaaaybe
[12:36] <mwheeler> <gm> man i've completely messed the map up
[12:36] <Darkside> lol
[12:38] <mwheeler> I'm annoyed I didn't setup the second orangepi I had ready to go. Could of been tracking them both
[12:39] <mwheeler> re payload documents; I was going to ask about that, because it makes a bit more sense for tracking
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[12:39] <Darkside> its going to spam the hell out of the habitat db though
[12:39] <mwheeler> yeah
[12:39] <Darkside> when i push payloads to APRS i do exactly that though
[12:39] <Darkside> i use the serial number as the object ID
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[12:40] <Darkside> https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FM2413028&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[12:40] <Darkside> like that
[12:41] <Darkside> i would seriosuly advise *against* pushing sondes in melboure into APRS-IS, as it will likely end up coming out someones igate
[12:41] <Darkside> and flooding the network
[12:41] <Darkside> around here i just had the local igate operators blacklist my callsign >_>
[12:42] <mwheeler> <gm> wouldn't it be bad if they did anyway, as I don't have an amateur radio license? :P
[12:42] <Darkside> lol
[12:42] <Darkside> i was almost going to suggest using mine
[12:42] <Darkside> but maybe not
[12:43] <mwheeler> <gm> how far away *can* a second operator be? :P
[12:44] <Darkside> >_>
[12:44] <Darkside> probably not that far
[12:44] <Darkside> but its not as big of a deal for APRS-IS
[12:44] <mwheeler> <gm> it's descending, it seems
[12:44] <Darkside> hrm
[12:45] <Darkside> 15km burst?!
[12:45] <mwheeler> <gm> can't see it on radio...
[12:45] <Darkside> and you have lost signal as its tumbling im guessing
[12:45] <Darkside> or its died
[12:46] <mwheeler> <gm> fired up cubicsdr, signal is there but very weak
[12:47] <Darkside> you are in quite a bad spor fr it
[12:47] <Darkside> try sticking the antenna to the *side* of the car :P
[12:48] <Darkside> this is where the cross dipoles and the preamps come in useful
[12:49] <Darkside> erm
[12:49] <Darkside> i think you may have locked onto teh other sonde
[12:49] <Darkside> lol
[12:50] <Darkside> oh its still going up!
[12:50] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, i did for a moment
[12:50] <Darkside> mwheeler: so i suspect your issue is that you're beneath it, and hence the signal will be weak due to the antenna orientations
[12:53] <Darkside> its a difficult problem to solve. I ended up going to turnstile antenna designs
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[12:53] <Darkside> i should have given you one of my old PL259-base turnstiles, which could have gone on a magbase
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[12:55] <mwheeler> <gm> eww pl259
[12:55] <Darkside> its all you will find on magbases
[12:56] <Darkside> yes, its not ideal, but they are a physically strong connector
[12:56] <mwheeler> <gm> what about N type or NMO?
[12:57] <Darkside> unlikely to find a magbase with that on them
[12:57] <Darkside> pretty much no commercial mobile antenna will have n-type on it
[12:57] <Darkside> NMO is common in the US
[12:57] <Darkside> but not so much here
[12:58] <Darkside> tbh its not that critical for a mobile antenna - all the bases on my roof are SO239 and the performance impact is negligible for what i do
[12:59] <mwheeler> <gm> just had a sad realisation... we used to be out playing ingress, outsmarting other players
[13:00] <mwheeler> <gm> now we're out trying to outsmart a weather balloon and failing at it...
[13:00] <Darkside> lol
[13:08] <mwheeler> <gm> we have burstage
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[13:12] <Darkside> ok tht doesnt look so good
[13:13] <Darkside> thats the same 'middle of a field' problem
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[13:20] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Denisov District, Kazakhstan 10(52.81441,61.04548) at 0312887 meters about 037 hours ago
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[13:27] <Darkside> mwheeler: lol that prediction
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[13:27] <Darkside> complerely wrong
[13:34] <Darkside> ooh
[13:34] <Darkside> just in a field
[13:34] <Darkside> or possibly in trees
[13:35] <Darkside> oh thats just not fair
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ISP35 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ISP35
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[13:44] <Babs> Good afternoon everyone - I have a question that I think should be solvable but I'm damned if I can find any form of solution on the internet. It might be that the google query I am using is just worded wrongly
[13:44] <Babs> With regard to this code https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox8
[13:45] <Babs> Where the sendUBX function is called multiple times sendUBX(setNav...., sendUBX(setGll....., sendUBX (setGSA etc.....
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[13:47] <Babs> is it possible to put the words setNav, setGll, setGSA as strings in a different array, and instead loop through the elements of that array so that say array [0]=setGll, array[1]=setNav etc. and call the function that way in a loop?
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[13:47] <mwheeler> Darkside: does that count for 4 out of4 or 4 out of 5?
[13:47] <Darkside> lol
[13:47] <Darkside> dunno
[13:47] <Darkside> still, good job
[13:47] <Darkside> im off to bed
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[13:49] <mwheeler> Nn
[13:53] <mwheeler> <gm> 401.5 looks dead, so other one is gone
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[14:53] <daveake> Babs yes
[14:54] <Babs> Hey daveake
[14:55] <Babs> I've got my geofence code working, but calling each country separately to check it against the test latitude and test longitude is a pain
[14:55] <Babs> I wanted to put each country in a separate array and just cycle through it that way
[14:56] <Babs> but I saw the setVTG, setGLL etc. code and the question I asked I guess got to the same point
[14:57] <Babs> have you got any examples of code that do a similar thing/what exactly should be I be searching for on google? My terminology might be out
[14:57] <Babs> Thanks
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[15:09] <daveake> An array of arrays. Not done that well in C as each needs to be the same size. Alternative is a separate at for each country, then an array of pointers to those arrays.
[15:09] <daveake> S/at/array/
[15:13] <Babs> Thanks Daveake - what is the S/at/array reference?
[15:14] <daveake> Typo. At was meant to be array
[15:18] <Babs> ok thanks, will look into the second option
[15:24] <gm> https://twitter.com/gm_stack/status/934442598772568064
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[23:20] <mwheeler> Darkside: another victory!
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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