highaltitude.log.20171124

[00:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03benz_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=benz_chase
[00:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WDBRF92J46F754958_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WDBRF92J46F754958_chase
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[03:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6AZX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6AZX-12
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[04:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[05:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YERRA after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YERRA
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[06:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10
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[06:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DALEPI after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DALEPI
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[08:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-GR after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-GR
[08:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7ACP-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
[08:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[09:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
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[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IZTEST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZTEST
[10:34] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:34] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03EPSOM Distance 10(a937), 03XABEN 114 10(7c90)
[10:34] <pb0ahx> !payload a937
[10:34] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03Epsom 2018 10(a937) 03$$EPSOM - 03434.6 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/450Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[10:37] <_Jordan> Alrighty pal, good mornin! I'm after some advice on basic naming conventions for our PITS trackers, any ideas?
[10:38] <Darkside> we went with egyptian gods :P
[10:38] <_Jordan> pals* theres more than one of you
[10:38] <_Jordan> wait wuh?
[10:38] <Darkside> but you can just do stuff like PALS-1
[10:38] <Darkside> PALS-2
[10:39] <_Jordan> Our current naming conventions, are BARC and SITS
[10:39] <fsphil> name them after characters from Friends?
[10:39] <_Jordan> I think I need to change em up.
[10:39] <fsphil> I usually just pick a random name
[10:39] <Darkside> haha
[10:39] <Darkside> so our telemetry payload is 'Horus' - the god of the sky
[10:39] <Darkside> the cutdown payload is 'Osiris', the god of death
[10:40] <_Jordan> I think SITS works but maybe something a little more unique than just numbers in accending order to differentiate them
[10:40] <Darkside> the really fast imagery downlink is 'Wenet', the swift one
[10:40] <_Jordan> Oh yeah, I'm getting into a bit of downlink in maybe a couple of weeks. I'lll message you about it then Darkside you down?
[10:41] <Darkside> err wha?
[10:41] <fsphil> he's very down
[10:41] <fsphil> down under
[10:41] Action: fsphil is not sorry
[10:41] <Darkside> :P
[10:41] <Darkside> i come from a land down under!
[10:41] <Darkside> better run...
[10:42] <_Jordan> wow... i meant would you be down to assist me if I needed it ha
[10:42] <Darkside> assist with what/
[10:43] <_Jordan> Fast imagery downlink. but don't worry not quite yet.
[10:43] <Darkside> its not legal in the UK
[10:44] <Darkside> the default settings are way to wide to fit within the UK ISM band regulations
[10:44] <_Jordan> Is it the 250 khz bandwith one?
[10:44] <Darkside> its more like 400 kHz occupied bandwidth
[10:44] <Darkside> fsphil: was playing with a slower version which might be barely legal
[10:44] <fsphil> I've been playing about with a wide-ish version, but it's a while away yet
[10:44] <fsphil> test flight planned for march
[10:45] <fsphil> hehe, barely legal
[10:45] <Darkside> cool
[10:45] <Darkside> ugh, twitter notification spam
[10:45] <Darkside> rtlsdrblog re-tweeted me
[10:45] <_Jordan> Whats the max bandwith you can use to stay inside license exempt regulations complying with IR2030?>
[10:46] <craag> 25KHz on 434 for 100% duty iirc
[10:47] <craag> You can go wider with I think 10% duty restriction - can't remember detail otoh
[10:47] <Darkside> no point doing that with this
[10:47] <Darkside> the idea is to transmit *constantly*
[10:47] <Darkside> and push down as much image data as possible
[10:49] <fsphil> it'll still be pretty fast within 25khz
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[10:49] <pb0ahx> _Jordan, wat is freq of Barc1
[10:49] <Darkside> fsphil: you'd be able to maybe get 9600 baud going i guess?
[10:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase
[10:49] <fsphil> yeah
[10:49] <Darkside> mwheeler: ^
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[10:50] <fsphil> I think my test was 10000, decided to scrap the normal baud rates :)
[10:50] <_Jordan> Barc1 is on 434.150, 300 bd, 8 ascii, no parity and 2 stop bits
[10:50] <_Jordan> is there a nice way to abbreviate all that so you lot still understand? ^
[10:50] <pb0ahx> _Jordan, tnx
[10:50] <fsphil> 300 baud 8N2
[10:50] <_Jordan> pb0ahx no thank you! for tuning in to our payloads!
[10:50] <_Jordan> thanks fsphil
[10:50] <_Jordan> I'll try to use thatf rom now on.
[10:51] <_Jordan> from*
[10:51] <mwheeler> Darkside: <gm> yeah?
[10:51] <Darkside> mwheeler: just commenting on the 'New vehicle on map' thing :P
[10:51] <_Jordan> I really need to test out different bd rates
[10:52] <Darkside> mwheeler: i take it you're going for tonights sonde?
[10:52] <mwheeler> <gm> well, yes
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[11:00] <fsphil> gm?
[11:01] <_Jordan> good morning i think?
[11:01] <Darkside> a nickname
[11:01] <Darkside> <gm> is typing on mwheeler's coputer
[11:01] <Darkside> computer
[11:01] <fsphil> aah
[11:01] <Darkside> as i suspect mwheeler is driving, and gm is navigating
[11:01] <fsphil> that makes sense
[11:01] <Darkside> they are going after tonights radiosonde
[11:01] <_Jordan> i stupid clearly.
[11:01] <Darkside> since they recovered last nights one
[11:02] <_Jordan> I'm*
[11:02] <Darkside> https://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/933685615912108032
[11:02] <Darkside> they have caught the bug :D
[11:02] <Darkside> next thing you know they'll be doing their own balloon launches
[11:02] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, didn't load my ssh key on here...
[11:03] <mwheeler> <gm> tramlines + wet = much crabbing....
[11:03] <_Jordan> Whats radiosonde guys?
[11:03] <fsphil> _Jordan: tis ok, I thought that too :)
[11:03] <Darkside> _Jordan: meteological telemetry payloads launched by the local met office
[11:04] <_Jordan> So is it like a challenge/competition to recover and give it back to em?
[11:04] <Darkside> nah
[11:04] <Darkside> they dont want them back here
[11:04] <Darkside> its just for fun
[11:04] <_Jordan> Oh haha, gives us hobbiests somethin to do?
[11:04] <Darkside> yep
[11:04] <Darkside> good practice for a real balloon launch :-)
[11:04] <_Jordan> understood.
[11:05] <Darkside> very different telemetry systems, but its possible to receive it and plug data into habitat
[11:05] <Darkside> which is what the 'YPADSONDE' and 'YMMLSONDE' payloads on the map are
[11:05] <_Jordan> Is PE2BZ Here?
[11:05] <_Jordan> Oh christ, I never knew that thanks Darkside for the insight
[11:05] <Darkside> PE2BZ knows all about radiosonds :P
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EPSOM after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EPSOM
[11:08] <_Jordan> So PE2BZ has nagged at me a few times to switch up both my frequency (to avoid the dutch crane band) and bd so that distant listeners can tune in. I'm finally gunna go ahead with these changes and wondered is theres anything I need to know in advance or is it just gunna be a leanring curve.
[11:09] <_Jordan> Looking to + 12 onto my existing frequencies so 434.150 would become 434.162.
[11:09] <_Jordan> 434.250 would become 434.262 etc etc.
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[11:20] <Darkside> yay
[11:21] <Darkside> hmm thats odd
[11:21] <Darkside> im getting payloads showing up on the map, but im not getting anything on the left side of the screen
[11:22] <Darkside> oh wait there it is
[11:23] <mwheeler> ah didn't beat you this time :(
[11:24] <mwheeler> we should of driven west to pick it up quicker :P
[11:24] <Darkside> heh
[11:25] <mwheeler> I need to make something that feeds stackptr updates for our car into the payload summary
[11:25] <mwheeler> since we don't have a GPS in here
[11:26] <Darkside> or make a phone app that does it :P
[11:26] <Darkside> mwheeler: https://github.com/projecthorus/HorusGroundStation/blob/master/ChaseTracker.py#L71
[11:27] <Darkside> thats what you need to send out, to UDP broadcast port 55672
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS3 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS3
[11:40] <_Jordan> any one know what that power clip is called for the PITS board?
[11:42] <_Jordan> SITS3 is on the map! a new edition to our tracking arsenal! tune in on 434.350 300 bd 8N2
[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:43] <Mike-SA6BSS> looks like epsom is up
[11:43] <Mike-SA6BSS> Il be ready if it comes close :)
[11:43] <Mike-SA6BSS> which it might
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[11:52] <TT7> Hi everyone
[11:53] <TT7> I've written a follow-up on my blog post about superpressure balloons
[11:54] <TT7> if anyone is interested https://tt7hab.blogspot.cz/2017/11/the-superpressure-balloons-vol-2.html
[11:55] <TT7> this one is more of a summary of the actual flights
[11:55] <TT7> plus some theoretical and practical notes
[11:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> tnx, always interesting reading your blog
[11:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> any more flights planned for the spring?
[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[11:56] <TT7> not at the moment, Mike
[11:56] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok
[11:58] <gonzo_> is there a lora mode number for streve's tracker today?
[11:59] <gonzo_> or do I need descrete settings?
[12:00] <daveake> 0
[12:00] <TT7> Mike-SA6BSS: and congratulations on your BSS flight that made it around the world :)
[12:00] <Mike-SA6BSS> Tnx :)
[12:00] <PE2BZ> _Jordan I am in, on a distance (called work) but I am still in for the 12.5 kHz shift on your frequencies :-)
[12:01] <TT7> nice to see another balloon-tracker combination that did the job
[12:01] <_Jordan> so 434.250 changes to 434.262.5
[12:01] <PE2BZ> Transmission #0: bd test + freq test - 434.262 MHz USB RTTY 50/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2 makes the Dutch listeners happy
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[12:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> yeah, surprised that those $1,50 balloons could make it 1,5 laps around the globe!
[12:02] <PE2BZ> Most remote controls over here are indeed at 250, 275 , 300 and are about 15 kHz wide in total, so the 12.5 kHz gives nice spaces between the channels.
[12:03] <edmoore> TT7: i mentioned this earlier when you were not here, but your project logs are the best i've seen from anyone in the ballooning world
[12:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> I´m cad:ing a new pcb for spring 2018 launches
[12:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> back to work
[12:03] <_Jordan> Okay PE2BZ another thing. I made the changes, and now is there anthing i need to change on HDSDR and fldigi rtty settings?
[12:04] <_Jordan> i need to change the fldigi bd i know
[12:04] <PE2BZ> If you use autoconfigure it should use the settiings from the payload doc, HDSDR you could reduce the receiving bandwidth but that is not necessary
[12:04] <PE2BZ> I am off to home, back in 20 minutes
[12:05] <_Jordan> alrighty.
[12:05] <TT7> thanks edmoore, I'm glad people may find it useful
[12:05] <_Jordan> HDSDR is giving me blankness.
[12:06] <_Jordan> TT7 can i see your project logs? might give me some inspiration :O
[12:07] <TT7> _Jordan https://tt7hab.blogspot.cz
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[12:10] <_Jordan> neat, way to incricate for my brain im afraid.
[12:10] <_Jordan> intricate*
[12:13] <TT7> well, I started without too much understanding of any of this. there are posts from 2014 where I used the standard arduino, ntx2 and gps module combintion based on tutorial from the UKHAS site
[12:14] <TT7> for my first up and down flight
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[12:40] <pb0ahx> !flights
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03EPSOM Distance 10(a937), 03XABEN 114 10(7c90)
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[12:48] <mwheeler> <gm> really not having a lot of luck with signal here....
[12:49] <Darkside> hm
[12:50] <Darkside> seems ok now?
[12:50] <Darkside> i am wrestling with timezones
[12:50] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[12:50] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Shalkar District, Kazakhstan 10(46.48107,58.96215) at 0311999 meters about 032 hours ago
[12:50] <PE2BZ> _Jordan HDSDR empty ? Did that ever work ?
[12:53] <mwheeler> <gm> seems the rtlsdr did not like a 3m usb extension
[12:53] <Darkside> hmm yes probably not
[12:53] <Darkside> burst!
[12:54] <_Jordan> thats the problem when I change the baud rate
[12:54] <_Jordan> HDSDR returns blanks
[12:54] <Darkside> mwheeler: hopefully it does not land in that national park
[12:56] <PE2BZ> _Jordan you change the baud rate on the transmitter and HDSDR shows no signal you mean ?
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[13:03] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping
[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Exc3ite_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Exc3ite_chase
[13:06] <_Jordan> bd rate is 50 on the pisky.txt and the hdsdr shows noise coming through but no spikes.
[13:07] <Darkside> mwheeler: did you end up changing the upload rate?
[13:07] <PE2BZ> What frequency is SITS3 on btw ?
[13:07] <Darkside> (looks like it)
[13:07] <_Jordan> SITS 3 is on 434.350 300 bd 8N2
[13:07] <pb0ahx> know sommebody the freq of SITS3 ??
[13:07] <_Jordan> fsphil my man for telling me that abbrieviation
[13:08] <gonzo_> daveake, do we have a mode number for steve's payload?
[13:08] <PE2BZ> I ended with Mode 0
[13:08] <PE2BZ> But it seems down allready
[13:09] <Darkside> hopefully they didnt fly the RS41 on the default freq...
[13:09] <Darkside> that would be bad...
[13:10] <PE2BZ> Darkside I am shure they would have. However, I don´t know how they ended on that frequency because it´s not common for UK sondes.
[13:10] <gonzo_> bugger, yes, didn't notice
[13:10] <PE2BZ> Chase car seems to be started, maybe a restart ?
[13:12] <Darkside> hah YMMLSONDE heading for a huge substation
[13:12] <Darkside> i think it will just about fall short though
[13:12] <Darkside> yep wont land in it...
[13:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC4 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
[13:16] <Darkside> aww it landed in a school
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[13:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
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[14:09] <Darkside> https://twitter.com/daveake/status/934061113846714368
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[14:15] <gm> ok, now that i'm actually in here
[14:18] <mwheeler> Darkside: yeah update rate set to 1 second (not sure if this is too much)
[14:19] <mwheeler> https://twitter.com/theskorm/status/934063950920060928
[14:23] <daveake> Totex 3000 finger-sized hole in the top
[14:24] <PE2BZ> to bad :-(
[14:25] <mattbrejza> time for the gaffa...
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[14:35] <daveake> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPZ3kqCXcAAw6R4.jpg:large
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[14:46] <PE2BZ> daveake any plans for re-launch ?
[14:47] <daveake> Sorry, yes, should have said ... they're preparing now for a second launch
[14:47] <daveake> Another 3000g :p
[14:47] <daveake> Steve just happened to have a spare :)
[14:49] <PE2BZ> Great news :-) So now I am off for shopping ;-)
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[15:05] <hairgonejohn> hi folks. I'm after some help with gas regulator fittings? Anyone knowledgeable on frequency please?
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[15:45] <daveake> X0 is up
[15:45] <PE2BZ> thanks
[15:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Succeed_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Succeed_chase
[15:48] <PE2BZ> daveake is the weathersonde still on this flight ?
[15:52] <daveake> well, they swapped for another one, but yes
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[15:53] <PE2BZ> thanks again. That would default to 100 mW so perhaps earlier in reach for me
[15:53] <daveake> ok
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[16:07] <daveake> PE2BZ: 403MHz I'm told
[16:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2KDD-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KDD-9
[16:09] <PE2BZ> There it is. N2210521 at 12718 m gps altitude
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[16:11] <PE2BZ> -51 degrees Celcius
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[16:26] <PE2BZ> The RS41 reports 18505 meter and -60 degrees with 5.9 m/s rate of climb and 120 km/h windspeed
[16:28] <daveake> nice
[16:29] <daveake> tho that's double the windspeed that snus is show
[16:29] <daveake> ing
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[16:30] <PE2BZ> gps wind 21 m/s 266 degrees
[16:32] <daveake> Interesting shape to the balloon https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPaHK_AWAAAyGLd.jpg:large
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[16:36] <PE2BZ> Nice photo with the sun behind the balloon thing
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[16:41] <PE2BZ> -67 degrees temp and still 22 m/s wind speed
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[16:43] <Reb-SM0ULC> any cool payload?
[16:44] <daveake> Yeah, air sampler
[16:45] <daveake> Loooong coiled tube, air escapes during ascent, then refills during descent. Apparently if they get to it within 8 hours the air doesn't mix too much, so they can gather data from the entire descent.
[16:46] <daveake> I thought it has a 21km cutdown but that didn't happen, so maybe it was set higher than I thought
[16:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> cool
[16:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> good with new stuff :)
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[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
[17:52] <daveake> Looks like a field not a tree this time :)
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[17:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DALEPI after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DALEPI
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[17:55] <PE2BZ> I replied to the message on UKHAS about the radiosonde and attached the PTU as csv file and the ground track, between 13 km till burst and down to 6.5 km just in case
[17:55] <daveake> Cool
[17:57] <PE2BZ> And if I had enabled habitat=Y than I would have had 64 lora packet :-(
[17:59] <PE2BZ> daveake Jordan had problems with decoding 50 bd from the BARC flights and this afternoon we had a teamviewer session, the thing was that 300 bd automatically sends 8 bits and 50 bd switches to 7 bits, and not being radio amateur I guess that´s hard to know
[18:00] <PE2BZ> So we switched to 50 bd and 7 n2 on fldigi, then inmediately the greens appeared. Now he knows that a payload doc for 50 bd should not have 8n2 but 7n2.
[18:00] <PE2BZ> I am rewarded a 50 bd flight at 12.5 kHz rounded frequency :-)
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[18:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IZTEST after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZTEST
[18:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GM_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GM_chase
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[20:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EPSOM after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EPSOM
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:23] <mwheeler> Darkside: ah you beat us again
[23:23] <mwheeler> can see it on 401.5 but can't decode frames yet
[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
[23:29] <Darkside> heh
[23:29] <Darkside> mwheeler: i have a fairly high gain antenna on the roof, and i'm using a preamp
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[23:31] <Darkside> mwheeler: https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=54
[23:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MWHEELER_MOBILE_chase
[23:36] <Darkside> oh god what
[23:36] <Darkside> are you guys going for it
[23:37] <Darkside> surely not, its going to land down near frankston
[23:37] <Darkside> thats heaps far away
[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:39] <mwheeler> <gm> the person driving is someone who, when he was living in Gladstone, went "let's go to Rockhampton just to get Nandos" on a regular basis...
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[23:39] <Darkside> mwheeler: lol ok
[23:39] <Darkside> you're going to love this hobby then
[23:39] <Darkside> mwheeler: you can come meet me in mt gambier at some point then :P
[23:39] <Darkside> and we can go chase a bunch of RS41a
[23:39] <Darkside> RS41s*
[23:40] <mwheeler> <gm> the response was "what are you doing across christmas?"
[23:40] <Darkside> i was going to be in whyalla
[23:40] <Darkside> but i do have a bit of time off...
[23:40] <Darkside> hmmmmmm
[23:41] <Darkside> will have to think about that one...
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[23:41] <Darkside> problem is you can only decide on it a few days out
[23:41] <Darkside> if the predictions have them all going in the drink its obviously not worth doing
[23:44] <Darkside> mwheeler: surely the freeways would be faster? (or are these the type that cost money)
[23:44] <mwheeler> <gm> yeah, we're getting on it exactly when it turns free :)
[23:45] <Darkside> right
[23:45] <Darkside> you realise the amount of money you're about to spend in fuel is probably comparable
[23:45] <Darkside> lol
[23:46] <mwheeler> <gm> we're in a mazda2, that much in fuel goes a long way....
[23:47] <Darkside> mmk
[23:47] <Darkside> mazda 2 chase car :D
[23:48] <mwheeler> <gm> it's been offroad more than most people's 4WDs...
[23:48] <Darkside> define: offroad
[23:49] <mwheeler> <gm> ... like down a 4wd trail... that's signposted as a public road until several hundred m after you can't turn around and you see "4wd only" signs
[23:50] <Darkside> lol
[23:51] <mwheeler> <gm> had to re-arrange a few rocks in a river crossing by hand before taking it, but we actually got down it with very few problems
[23:51] <Darkside> hm i definitely need to figure out how to grab the last reported position of a payload from habitat
[23:51] <Darkside> then i can feed it into the chase car system
[23:51] <mwheeler> <gm> we did have a 4wd in front to recover us if anything went wrong though...
[23:52] <Darkside> hmm also that prediction is *really* Close to the shore
[23:53] <Darkside> i guess going on previous experience it will burst at 23-24km though (i wonder what balloons they are using)
[23:54] <Darkside> will have to feed that back into the melbourne hourly predictor
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