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[00:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03moms car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=moms%20car_chase
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[07:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-BL after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-BL
[07:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7ACP-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
[07:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YMMLSONDE after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YMMLSONDE
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:51] <buzz53> Can anybody confirm whether display of SSDV images works in DL-FLDIGI 3.21.50 and/or 3.23.12?
[11:51] <Darkside> fsphil: ^
[11:51] <buzz53> It parses OK and the images are visible on habitat, but not locally
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[12:02] <buzz53> More specifically, with 2.23.12 I see a black image with dots on the top line only.
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
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[12:19] <mwheeler> getting timeouts on logging to habitat and tracker is super slow
[12:19] <mwheeler> 2017-11-21 12:18:26,984 ERROR:Failed to upload to Habitat: timed out
[12:19] <mwheeler> though surprisingly over LTE rather than my IP it works fine
[12:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-GR after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-GR
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[12:49] <Darkside> mwheeler: note that my code to upload probably isnt amazing
[12:50] <Darkside> but yes, timeouts not good
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[13:05] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[13:05] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(55.31441,-12.28786) at 0312887 meters about 039 minutes ago
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[13:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
[13:30] <PE2BZ> !dial barc4
[13:30] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: There are no flights currently :(
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[13:31] <pb0ahx> !flights
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: There are no flights currently :(
[13:31] <PE2BZ> !payload barc1
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: There are no flights currently :(
[13:31] <PE2BZ> !payload barc4
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: There are no flights currently :(
[13:32] <PE2BZ> SpacenearUS yes there are
[13:33] <craag> None with a flight doc though..
[13:33] <AndyEsser> BARC don't do flight docs anymore
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[13:35] <gonzo_> it doesn't look like they get much tracking from anyone anymore
[13:35] <gonzo_> even when we do notice them
[13:36] <PE2BZ> _Jordan promised to do better....
[13:37] <craag> There was a discussion on #habhub which came to the result that the support contract in place with the habhub admins doesn't match their commercial use requirements.
[13:38] <PE2BZ> ok, missed that one. thanks for the update
[13:38] <craag> note that there's no support contract, cos we're all hobbyists here doing it for the fun of it, apart from BARC.
[13:39] <AndyEsser> craag: don't worry - I got the sarcasm :P
[13:39] Action: PE2BZ was looking for the support contract paypal button
[13:39] Action: PE2BZ assumes the support contract includes recovery :-)
[13:40] <gonzo_> There could be a donate button. Which goes to buy pizzas, for the admins, at the UKHAS gatherings
[13:40] <craag> If it pays for my recovery tesla+boat+plane, yes.
[13:41] <PE2BZ> that´s a good destination :-) China food is also OK
[13:41] <daveake> I'm not sure their own flight announcement policy complies with the implied listener support contract :)
[13:41] <AndyEsser> craag: recovery telsa :)
[13:41] <AndyEsser> ha
[13:42] <daveake> e.g. "oh look we accidentally launched something and we're not uploading could y'all track it for us cheers"
[13:42] <daveake> </cynic>
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[13:49] <PE2BZ> For the interested, it´s on 434.450
[13:50] <fsphil> https://twitter.com/arkorobotics/status/601444591615672322
[13:50] <fsphil> speaking of tesla :)
[13:51] <gonzo_> complete asside: I was rooting in the whokshop for something and happened on my ammo box that I keep LiPo's in. Found one that had bulged and burst
[13:51] <fsphil> buzz53: it should be fine. what's the signal source?
[13:51] <gonzo_> no sign of burning, but a choking mell of acetone
[13:51] <fsphil> eek
[13:51] <fsphil> I keep mine in one of those fireproof bags
[13:52] <gonzo_> up to only a few months ago, I kept them in a drawer in the house
[13:52] <gonzo_> these were just spare ones, not being used or charges
[13:52] <AndyEsser> I should find where mine are....
[13:52] <AndyEsser> I suspect in a plastic box in the garage....
[13:53] <fsphil> next to the tank of petrol
[13:53] <gonzo_> I have some in a die cast ali box, as a 12V supply. But that should contain them reasonably
[13:53] <fsphil> yeah
[13:53] <AndyEsser> fsphil: and the acetylene torch
[13:53] <fsphil> I don't think there's much force involved when they go bad, just heat and smoke
[13:54] <AndyEsser> fsphil: there isn't much force involved when you ignite cordite
[13:54] <AndyEsser> unless you wrap it in a tight brass container :P
[13:55] <fsphil> lets experiment!
[13:55] <gonzo_> black powder is more fun, needs hardly any containment for it to go bang
[13:58] <PE2BZ> But my solar panels did arrive, so back to the Weller WECP-20 :-)
[14:02] <AndyEsser> I think I'll make it a goal to finally launch in 2018
[14:03] <PE2BZ> That´s some kind of deadline :-)
[14:03] <PE2BZ> I need a cloudless day for B-26 floater test
[14:04] <PE2BZ> and the new bottle of HE is coming in this weekend, and then there will be an RS-41 with a parachute experiment to get < 1 m/s decend rate for future Pi zero flight
[14:06] Action: PE2BZ offerst AndyEsser an RS41, pre-programmed with rtty and aprs callsign
[14:15] <buzz53> fsphil: it's an own-hardware pisky derivative and as I say the uploaded image is OK
[14:16] <fsphil> is that the YERRA images?
[14:18] <buzz53> No, JOAL02 last night
[14:18] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: cheers - but I'm doing this fully DIY :)
[14:19] <AndyEsser> got the flight computer circuit diagram all done, just need to layout out the PCB and order it and build it
[14:19] <fsphil> buzz53: hmm, nothing unusual about those. which OS?
[14:19] <buzz53> I know they're not great images, that's what happens when you use a screwdriver to try to adjust the focus! But technically OK.
[14:20] <buzz53> Jessie light
[14:20] <buzz53> Oh sorry, Windows 7 Pro on the PC
[14:21] <fsphil> in the decode window, does it print the message showing the image packet details?
[14:23] <buzz53> Yes, all that looks correct. I'm just firing up my Win 64 lappy to see if it's any better.
[14:23] <fsphil> if you can record a short sample of the signal, I can see if it decodes here too
[14:23] <fsphil> displays even
[14:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOAL02 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL02
[14:35] <buzz53> The lappy is just the same, on 3.23.12 anyway. I have always found 3.21.50 a bit fickle and as it's a Tuesday it's not demodulating the RTTY at all.
[14:35] <buzz53> How do you mean record, audio?
[14:39] <fsphil> yeah
[14:39] <fsphil> something I can replay back into dl-fldigi
[14:40] <fsphil> assuming I can get dl-fldigi to compile under fedora 27...
[14:40] <AndyEsser> I should give fedora a try
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[14:58] <AndyEsser> fsphil: losing my temper with the Fedora install.....
[15:07] <edmoore> kids these days
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[15:08] <edmoore> 18 minutes between 'i should give fedora a try' and that
[15:08] <edmoore> what about spending 2 days trying to compile everything
[15:08] <edmoore> pretend you're in East with beaver
[15:08] <edmoore> be the change you want to make
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[15:09] <buzz53> fsphil: I have a 600k capture from fldigi that also plays back OK. How to get it to you?
[15:18] <AndyEsser> edmoore: no thanks, gone are the days of putting up with the smell.....
[15:27] <buzz53> Hmm, did BARC1 clobber the power lines?
[15:31] <fsphil> buzz53: email's fine. pm
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[15:34] <fsphil> my only fault with fedora 27 is my thinkpad's track point has developed a slight lag
[15:34] <fsphil> I keep missing buttons and tabs
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[16:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0188 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0188
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[16:12] <AndyEsser> fsphil: tbf it was just because the installer was 'installing' in the background whilst trying to enter passwords and stuff, and it was missing key up events - so spamming in hundreds of characters etc
[16:17] <fsphil> being able to do things while the OS is installing is kinda neat
[16:20] <AndyEsser> Yes, but not at the expense of UX
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[16:30] Action: PE2BZ found a way to convert 150 Watt of halo power to 2.5 v 0.1 A . Use 5 solar panels....
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[16:45] <SpeedEvil> Sounds about right
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[17:03] <Ian_> Headline: Archangel Ben uses halo as HAB power source :)
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[17:15] <madmax_> hello
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[18:27] <PE2BZ> Hi Mike, what do you use to simulate the sunlight for testing solar panels ? Or do you ¨trust the datasheet¨ ?
[18:27] <Mike-SA6BSS> no, im using the sun
[18:28] <Mike-SA6BSS> only way to know if things work3
[18:28] <Mike-SA6BSS> can be a bit hard this time of yea
[18:28] <Mike-SA6BSS> r
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[18:34] <PE2BZ> Have to find a long rope to get above the clouds the last days...
[18:34] <Mike-SA6BSS> jepp :)
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[18:42] <PE2BZ> for over 30K in Euros I can travel the world to catch some sun
[18:43] <PE2BZ> https://www.newport.com/c/solar-simulators
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[18:51] <Laurenceb> >Contact Newport
[18:51] <Laurenceb> Sir wants a price?
[18:52] <PE2BZ> No way. I better buy a grow light ;-)
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[20:12] <SpeedEvil> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-30-50-100W-High-Power-Flood-Light-COB-LED-Chip-Bulb-Bead-Warm-Cool-White-220V/372135878468 100W*5*cool white LEDs. Take four, arrange so that the panels are in a square, this gives ~40000lm. At around 20cm, this will produce solar-like light output.
[20:13] <SpeedEvil> No need for heatsinks if you operate it for two seconds or less
[20:14] <SpeedEvil> Getting it heatsinkable gets considerably more annoying
[20:14] <SpeedEvil> And all for $20
[20:15] <SpeedEvil> I'm not quite sure if you'd need to be at 15 or 20cm to get representative to solar conditions, but it's in the ballpark.
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[20:17] <SpeedEvil> Somewhere around $100 for a 1m^2 solar simulator that is good enough for basically all purposes, which is mad. (solar panel lumens are different from eye lumens)
[20:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NEPTUN-4 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NEPTUN-4
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[20:30] <SpeedEvil> Mike-SA6BSS:
[20:30] <SpeedEvil> PE2BZ:
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[21:07] <Mike-SA6BSS> SpeedEvil: tnx, will have a look
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[21:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F1TKE-13 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-13
[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DFM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DFM
[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DFM06 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DFM06
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[22:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DFM6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DFM6
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[22:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1510373 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1510373
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[23:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC2DIJ-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC2DIJ-1
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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