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[00:51] <xtjacob> Hey guys, I need some help. I'm trying to figure out how to do APRS with a raspberry pi and HX1 transmitter
[00:52] <xtjacob> How could I take the audio output from something like direwolf and feed it into the HX1?
[00:54] <xtjacob> Or do I just send serial data to it?
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[03:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE5AA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE5AA-11
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[04:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hance_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hance_chase
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[06:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[06:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[07:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[07:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10
[07:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LY2EK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY2EK
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LY2ES - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY2ES
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[09:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MOLLY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MOLLY
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[09:21] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:21] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03Epsom (Belmont) 10(349e)
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[09:32] <pb0ahx-> !dial 349e
[09:32] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx-: Latest dials for 03BMONT 10(349e): 03434.6 MHz
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[09:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-BL after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-BL
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:16] <pb0ahx-> !dial MOLLY
[12:16] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx-: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0301712155072_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=01712155072_chase
[12:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03+880 1703180286_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=%2B880%201703180286_chase
[12:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kc9oye_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kc9oye_chase
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[12:32] <Elle> Hi, can anyone in here give me any advise on floating a balloon to descend in a different country? what are the aviation laws?
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[12:45] <SpeedEvil> Elle: where do you start off at?
[12:45] <SpeedEvil> Generally, the destination country is ignored.
[12:45] <Elle> the uk, and landing in france
[12:45] <Elle> okay
[12:46] <Elle> do i need to let the french aviation authority know?
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> No.
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> You need to apply to the CAA to launch, if it's not an exempt balloon
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> (under 2m radius at any point in flight, for a sphere encloding it and payload
[12:47] <Elle> okay great, thank you
[12:50] <Elle> a trip to France it is!
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[12:51] <daveake> Hmm, not sure that's true
[12:52] <SpeedEvil> You can often time a launch so that it will land back in your country.
[12:52] <daveake> The stuff that Steve showed at the last conf said (to my reading) that advance permission is required for each EU country you overfly
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[12:54] <daveake> iirc there was an exemption for balloons used "exclusively for meteorological purposes"
[12:56] <Elle> okay, so is this a case of contacting french aa do you think?
[12:56] <daveake> It's this clause:
[12:56] <daveake> 2.2. An unmanned free balloon, other than a light balloon used exclusively for meteorological purposes and operated in the manner prescribed by the competent authority, shall not be operated across the territory of another State without authorisation from the other State concerned.
[12:57] <daveake> In https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=4294975756
[12:57] <daveake> I don't know if anyone has done this yet
[12:58] <daveake> You could argue it's "exclusively for meteorological purposes", assuming it's not got a teddy on it :p
[12:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5PGW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5PGW-11
[12:59] <Elle> okay, it would fall under the categary for light balloons as well
[13:00] <daveake> It all gets very messy anyway if it's not in the light category
[13:01] <daveake> afk 1 hour
[13:02] <Elle> okay thank you for your advise
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S19 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S19
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[13:15] <SpeedEvil> Also, doesn't the CAAs ANO explicitly exclude under 2m?
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> Which eems in conflict with the above
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[13:24] <PE2BZ> !flights
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Epsom (Belmont) 10(349e)
[13:24] <PE2BZ> !dial 349e
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BMONT 10(349e): 03434.6 MHz
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kzwa_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kzwa_chase
[13:27] <PE2BZ> Hi. Is MOLLY the Epsom fight ? Any frequency available ?
[13:30] <G8KNN> PE2BZ: MOLLY is on 434.450. It's not the Epsom flight
[13:30] <PE2BZ> Thanks !
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[14:26] <WillDuckworth> Hey - are PCB Train and Hackvana any good these days? Any other recommendations?
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[14:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BMONT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BMONT
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[15:12] <adamgreig> WillDuckworth: check out oshpark, dirtypcbs, seeed studio, itead, elecrow for other usual suspects
[15:13] <WillDuckworth> Thanks Adam - will do
[15:13] <adamgreig> handful of good uk/eu fabs (pcb train, eurocircuits, i'd be remiss to not mention cambridge circuit company) but all a lot more expensive
[15:14] <adamgreig> oshpark quite decent quality if you just want 1-3 copies of your board, which costs ~the same as getting 10 copies from a chinese supplier
[15:19] <Laurenceb> I use pcbtrain for work
[15:20] <Laurenceb> sometimes the pcbs have fingerprints on them and/or free pizza glued to them or sometimes pubic hairs in the solder stop
[15:20] <Laurenceb> how I picture pcbtrain https://yearoftheguineapig.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/parents-basement.jpg?w=277&h=210
[15:21] <Laurenceb> the boards are ok 80% of the time
[15:25] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> usuly runs dirty pcb, so far they have been good, I panelize the boards and they always send a couple of extra boards , so the last three ordes I have got 14 x 2 =28 boards for 14$
[15:25] <Laurenceb> pcb train gives a whole new meaning to dirty pcb
[15:26] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> pizza and hair, nice :)
[15:26] <Laurenceb> I know someone who received boards with pages of the sunday sport stuck to the silkscreen
[15:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0181 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0181
[15:29] <WSPR> Laurenceb: I think it was PCBtrain that didn't have the silkscreen on htem last time i ordered
[15:30] <Laurenceb> sounds about right
[15:35] <PE2BZ> !flights
[15:35] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Epsom (Belmont) 10(349e)
[15:35] <PE2BZ> !dial 349e
[15:35] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BMONT 10(349e): 03434.6 MHz, 434.598656 MHz
[15:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0182 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0182
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[15:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0183 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0183
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[16:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0184 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0184
[16:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9OYE-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9OYE-11
[16:13] <evilroots> !track VE5AA
[16:13] <SpacenearUS> 03evilroots: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE5AA
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[16:37] <junderwood> !dial BMONT
[16:37] <SpacenearUS> 03junderwood: Latest dials for 03BMONT 10(349e): 03434.59744 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 434.598656 MHz, 434.59849 MHz, 440.262 MHz
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[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RYDE after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RYDE
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[17:17] <PE2BZ> BMONT went to a single carrier ?
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[17:28] <g8fjg> PE2BZ looks like it got too cold Ben -51 nearly as cold as my shack!!
[17:29] <PE2BZ> lol heat up the amplifiers Ron ;-)
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[17:33] <g8fjg> the eme amps generate more waste heat than o/p ..but the PC's are the best shack heaters
[17:36] <g8fjg> afk and shack for a while I'll keep a check and retune if needed
[17:36] <PE2BZ> rgr rgr
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[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K9MQ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K9MQ-11
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[18:23] <g8fjg> BMONT carrier just gone into noise for me qrg 165 ...ish
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[18:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4CZZ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4CZZ
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[20:14] <OK2IT> Hi there I would like to launch experimental low cost payload on 17.11.2017 WX allowing.
[20:15] <OK2IT> I have tested parsers and payload configs and all now seems to work. Modified RS41 to 78grams. Last tie only APRS worked so this time I made sure all is set and tested prior. Tnx and GL to all.
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[20:26] <OK2IT> 360cac11fc6550fbfbb931459b779a83 is doc id
[20:31] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> paste that doc in #habhub channel
[20:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK2IT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK2IT
[20:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5MASR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5MASR-11
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[20:51] <OK2IT> wow....just tested mobile app for Android where Ic706 tuned to QRG and buil in mic were only parts needed....but antennas etc etc. impressive.
[20:53] <OK2IT> As I now have one RTLSDR from sonde tracker left unused I will try to switch to automatic fl-digi and scan/autoconfig mode.
[21:14] <russss> https://blog.x.company/turning-on-project-loon-in-puerto-rico-f3aa41ad2d7f
[21:15] <russss> oh, old perhaps
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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