highaltitude.log.20171019

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[00:11] <labjg> YPADSONDE sure does a lot of flights around Adelaide.. are they all real? :P
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[05:15] <Mike-SA6BSS> !whereis BSS12
[05:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Mike-SA6BSS: 03BSS12 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(48.14583,-156.20834) at 039340 meters about 034 hours ago
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[06:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-BL after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-BL
[07:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[08:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-11
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[09:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[10:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:40] <shiftplusone> daveake: is there an alternative to dl-fldigi that launches more than 5% of the time, uses a proper gui toolkit and doesn't depend on pulseaudio, or is it about the best we've got right now?
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:41] <russss> lol
[11:41] <daveake> that last one
[11:42] <russss> I have a toy standalone demodulator but it's definitely not ready for prime time. Also it depends on gnuradio which will almost certainly be more hassle than fldigi
[11:42] <daveake> tho 5% seems odd ... should be 100% ish
[11:42] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:42] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(32.77274,-33.03785) at 0313999 meters about 032 hours ago
[11:42] <Laurenceb> 13 months in the air
[11:43] <shiftplusone> I tend to get "Unable to find fonts. Check your FontConfig configuration" most of the time.
[11:43] <daveake> Never seen that one
[11:43] <daveake> mfa298: Seen this with dl-fldigi ? ^^
[11:43] <shiftplusone> Might be a stretch issue
[11:44] <daveake> yeah could be
[11:44] <russss> ugh
[11:44] <shiftplusone> since it's using a newer version of fltk and that error comes from fltk
[11:44] <russss> no idea why that would be intermittent though
[11:44] <shiftplusone> gdb time
[11:45] <russss> my aim was to have something completely standalone which automatically tune based on current flights, but I got distracted.
[11:45] <russss> story of my life
[11:46] <daveake> and people wonder why I use lora so much ... :)
[11:46] <shiftplusone> yeah.... I have projects I started 5 years ago which I am definitely going to get around to any day now >.>
[11:46] <daveake> Maybe a port of mattbrejza;s HAB Mobile from Android would be an option
[11:47] <shiftplusone> daveake: mind if I PM you
[11:47] <daveake> sure
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[12:05] <mfa298> the only issue I'm aware of with dl-fldigi starting up tends to be down to something bad with configs, clearing out the old configs (at least on windows) seems to fix that
[12:06] <mfa298> although many years ago when I tested on fedora I did have some issues where I think I had to run non hab first or it bombed out when starting
[12:09] <daveake> Yeah, I've seen that before on Windows ... something in the config causes it to crash, then you have to delete config file and start again
[12:09] <daveake> IIRC adding a sound device was enough to do it
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[13:18] <shiftplusone> hmm... dl-fldigi also has a nice feature where it crashes lxpanel so that it doesn't get in the way.
[13:19] <shiftplusone> (some race condition between when the icon for it loads and when lxpanel reads it)
[13:19] <fsphil> dl-fldigi is quite far behind fldigi and there's not much of a queue of people to update it :)
[13:23] <shiftplusone> a gtk or qt re-write would be nice.
[13:24] <fsphil> python/qt would be nice
[13:24] <fsphil> though maybe not the fastest
[13:25] <shiftplusone> if the slow bits are done in C, it should be about the same, right?
[13:25] <fsphil> yeah
[13:26] <fsphil> then it wouldn't be a huge jump to just doing it all in C, with gtk
[13:27] <fsphil> qt interfaces tend to look better, especially on windows
[13:27] <shiftplusone> I'd suggest it as a side-project for our local ui guy, but I don't want to be murdered.
[13:27] <fsphil> lol
[13:28] <fsphil> or just do it all in javascript, run it in a browser
[13:28] <fsphil> https://hackaday.com/2017/10/18/a-web-based-modem/
[13:28] Action: shiftplusone shudders
[13:28] <shiftplusone> heh, yeah seen that a bit earlier today
[13:29] <shiftplusone> Pardon my ignorance, but what does dl-fldigi add on top of fldigi?
[13:29] <fsphil> it extracts ukhas-formatted strings and uploads them to the map
[13:29] <fsphil> and also decodes and uploads SSDV image packets
[13:29] <fsphil> there's a few extra UI elements to display the position of a flight relative to the receiver
[13:30] <craag> and downloads rtty configurations from habitat payload/flight docs
[13:30] <fsphil> in theory it can auto-configure the modem too, but that doesn't always work well
[13:30] <shiftplusone> ah, got it, thanks.
[13:30] <daveake> The uploads/ssdv could be done externally ... fldigi can send received data out through a server socket
[13:31] <fsphil> best feature for a new system would be the ability to read directly from an SDR dongle
[13:31] <fsphil> and remove the bandwidth limits, so something like Darkside's wenet could be used
[13:32] <daveake> Yeah, I think "I can't decode rtty from my RTL SDR with dl-fldigi" is easily the #1 query we get here
[13:32] <daveake> and yes wenet would be sweet
[13:33] Action: shiftplusone wonders if he found a new hobby
[13:33] <shiftplusone> none of that seems particularly difficult to add
[13:35] <fsphil> bonus points for a lora decoder
[13:39] <daveake> heh
[13:57] <adamgreig> it's all hard to add because the codebase is a stunning mess
[13:57] <adamgreig> and because doing dsp correctly is non trivial too
[13:57] <adamgreig> and the people who are good at doing dsp correctly write terrible code, on the whole
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[14:19] <fsphil> and cruel UIs :)
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[14:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0174 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0174
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[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0173 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0173
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[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS6SRC _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS6SRC%20_chase
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[15:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0167 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0167
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[16:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0175 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0175
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[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[20:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3BJG-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3BJG-11
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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