highaltitude.log.20171015

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[00:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
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[00:58] <Wiktor> Darkside: hm, what was the names of the objects
[00:59] <Wiktor> i will give him a heads up about it - predictions may be off because of the fact that it may use ascend and descend settings from meteosondes
[00:59] <Wiktor> and the goal for his predictions is to predict them
[01:06] <Wiktor> it uses 5m/s up 11m/s down and 34000m of burst i suppose, but you can query him - his username on freenode is Teeed
[01:07] <Wiktor> twice we had ~2m accuracy when chasing meteosondes with his predict :D And he calculates them on the last stadium of descending to minimize the error and the traffic
[01:07] <Wiktor> *20m
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[01:13] <Darkside> Wiktor: it was the name of the object i was pushing in plus a . on the end
[01:13] <Darkside> https://aprs.fi/info/a/M2443163
[01:14] <Darkside> like this one, though no predictions showed up this time
[01:14] <Darkside> and lol the list of 'others sourced by VK5QI' is getting a bit big
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[01:46] <vk2vu> newby here , cannot find PS-72 in the active list on dl-fldigi , 73 vk2vu
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[02:04] <Darkside> vk2vu: thats because he didn't announce it in advance
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[02:05] <Darkside> and im pretty sure its only doing WSPR and JT9
[02:05] <Darkside> http://picospace.net/?cat=34
[02:05] <vk2vu> ok tks darkside 73
[02:06] <Darkside> andy doesnt usually announce his launches in advance
[02:06] <Darkside> he just kind of throws them up and hopes for tracking
[02:06] <Darkside> <--- VK5QI btw
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[05:40] <vk1kw-Rob> PS-72 what offset JT9 please?
[05:44] <vk1kw-Rob> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1649591138615809/
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[06:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[07:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK7DMT-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK7DMT-8
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[07:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-12 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-12
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[08:22] <nick_> Which transmitters do people use on pico flights?
[08:22] <nick_> Anything smaller/lighter than radiometrix module?
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[08:38] <Darkside> the usually roll their own transmitter on a pcb
[08:38] <Darkside> often using the Si446x chips
[08:41] <nick_> That's just a clock chip, right?
[08:41] <nick_> Or really a RF chip?
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[08:44] <nick_> Ah, looks pretty neat
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[09:07] <Mike-SA6BSS> nick_: I´m using si5351
[09:07] <Mike-SA6BSS> doing wspr and jt9, if aprs is of interest the by darkside sugested si40xx/44xx is often used
[09:14] <nick_> Really I'm looking to do something weird just with tones.
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[09:15] <nick_> More like energy harvesting
[09:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> you can make one realy easy https://www.swharden.com/wp/2010-07-14-high-altitude-balloon-transmitter/
[09:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> tx I mean
[09:22] <nick_> I'll probably start plaing with a radiometrix module I have.
[09:22] <nick_> For the TX side.
[09:22] <nick_> While I do crappier things myself on the RX side
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[10:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Piggly - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Piggly
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[10:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PicoChu - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PicoChu
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[10:49] <PE2BZ> Good morning.
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[10:51] <PE2BZ> Any info on the PicoChu LoRa settings ?
[10:51] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Streaming of talk on Southampton Univeristy #CubeSat program from #AMSAT-UK #RSGBconvention https://t.co/UsRgaelknn #hamradio #hamr #ukhas
[10:52] <TT7> Hi everyone
[10:53] <TT7> I've launched an APRS and WSPR floater
[10:53] <TT7> after a bumpy start it seems to be ascending and transmitting ok
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[10:54] <TT7> details on the tracker https://tt7hab.blogspot.cz/2017/10/the-tt7f6w-flight.html
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[10:57] <TT7> I had to delay the launch and let the hydrogen inside the balloon heat up in the sun and regain lift
[10:57] <PE2BZ> TT7 glad to hear that worked :-)
[10:57] <TT7> it was filled and sealed yesterday and the night in a garage saw it lose almost all the lift
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[11:00] <TT7> I was considering cutting open the envelope and adding more hydrogen.. in the end it was good I didn't
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[11:03] <g8fjg> $$PicoChu,86,13:02:41,53.44576,-1.(1$)65v,3404,-30,1,197,1r7.=*=703Lb chase the signal
[11:03] <g8fjg> in the 350 qrm
[11:03] <PE2BZ> good morning Ron. Does Chu carry Lora indeed ?
[11:04] <g8fjg> not shure Ben
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[11:04] <PE2BZ> https://manchesterspaceprogramme.org/wiki/doku.php?id=pico:electronics
[11:04] <g8fjg> wit will soon be out of the 350 qrm heading to 340
[11:05] <g8fjg> will
[11:07] <g8fjg> its at 10828 mts now
[11:08] <PE2BZ> Am I looking at the wrong tracker ?
[11:09] <PE2BZ> No RX since 14 minutes ?
[11:09] <g8fjg> its so hard to track
[11:09] <PE2BZ> ok
[11:09] <g8fjg> its at 434.340 now
[11:10] <g8fjg> my afc cant follow it
[11:10] <PE2BZ> Not a sign on the waterfall over here
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[11:13] <g8fjg> on 434 .338 transmission broken
[11:13] <Harvy> If anyone has LoRa they can pick it up.
[11:13] <g8fjg> just an "unsteady" mark
[11:14] <g8fjg> Harvy what frequency
[11:14] <Harvy> It was 434.350
[11:15] <g8fjg> i just got a few crc fails ...but that freq is not good here
[11:15] <spookydillows> 434.339 now
[11:15] <PE2BZ> 434.350 Lora which mode ?
[11:15] <Harvy> I am trying to parse the failed strings now. We are chasing
[11:16] <Harvy> https://manchesterspaceprogramme.org/wiki/doku.php?id=pico:electronics
[11:16] <g8fjg> 62.5 sf8 code 4.5 perhaps
[11:18] <g8fjg> now nothing
[11:18] <spookydillows> just dropped dead
[11:19] <Harvy> damn
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:20] <Harvy> If you can get anything let us know.
[11:20] <g8fjg> ok
[11:20] <daveake> Any other trackers onboard ?
[11:21] <Harvy> Let's just say we had a disagreement with a telegraph pole. We cut the line, so the main tracker is at ground but the PicoChu went up with the balloon.
[11:22] <Harvy> So just c
[11:22] <Harvy> So just picochu is up and it is transmitting RTTY and LoRa.
[11:22] <daveake> Ah right, I just looked at the map and wondered about the piggly one
[11:23] <daveake> OK, and picochu has gone quiet? Carrier?
[11:23] <Darkside> sorru about the ssdv spam...
[11:23] <Darkside> testing some tx hardware
[11:23] <Harvy> 350
[11:24] <Harvy> Piggly is a PITS shield so that would've been a good backup.
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[11:26] <chris___> Hi there, Scooby and $hilcox are now in the air. Scooby PITS is broadcasting on 434.250 and hilcox habduino is broadcasting on 434.650
[11:26] <chris___> all listeners are most welcome
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[11:27] <daveake> Harvy Sorry I'm slightly confused ... is picochu still txing ? No updates on the map for a while
[11:27] <daveake> Not that I can help much anyway - hill in the way
[11:29] <g8fjg> daveake I saw it stop a while ago ...it was just sending steady mark
[11:29] <daveake> ah right, ta
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[11:29] <daveake> maybe it's too cold and will start txing data later
[11:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7SSH - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7SSH
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[11:36] <Harvy> daveake I'm relying on others to tell me if it is transmitting.
[11:36] <Harvy> I am hoping that it does warm up on the way down.
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[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HarvyMSP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HarvyMSP_chase
[11:38] <Harvy> G8FJG-V are you getting something?
[11:39] <g8fjg> not for a while Ill look again
[11:40] <Harvy> You seem to be parsing something.
[11:41] <g8fjg> nil on your freq....thats HILCOX im rxing
[11:41] <Harvy> ah ok
[11:42] <pb0ahx> Scooby and $hilcox not on the map here ??
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[11:43] <g8fjg> hilcox still just above noise with me
[11:44] <g8fjg> on .651
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[11:53] <g8fjg> I0$HILCGX(9M7281$<yX&002p^M{R$$$COX28q:52290000000000P(0YOCKFR$$~OX32403:1$i*)1000($Pj35x34l3N its getting there!
[11:56] <g8fjg> I can see it on both systems so it must be "quite" high
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[11:57] <spookydllows> it wasback on 434.340
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[11:58] <PE2BZ> the single ¨mark¨ ?
[11:59] <spookydllows> stopped again now but the signal was strong in south yorks
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[12:00] <chris___> Hi there. Has anyone been able to pick up the sidmouth flights yet? That it the PITS tracker Scooby and habduino HILCOX?
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[12:01] <g8fjg> I think HILCOX may have lost gps lock
[12:02] <PE2BZ> is the pits rtty only or also lora ?
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[12:16] <g8fjg> Hilcox maybe going up very slowly $$$$$HILCOX,4721:15:20,0.0000,0.000000,0,0,17,2825,*9234$$$$$HICOX(473,12:15:38,000000,0.00000,0,17,2824,33*7DE7
[12:25] <pb0ahx> g8fjg, thats on 651 ??
[12:25] <g8fjg> yes
[12:25] <pb0ahx> nill here til now
[12:26] <g8fjg> $$$$HILCOX,521,12:25:47,0.000000,0.000000,0,0,13,2821,33*7C61 green so its bobbing along at about 2800
[12:27] <pb0ahx> it is to low for me
[12:28] <g8fjg> I think its too low for me ;-)
[12:29] <g8fjg> what range do you get for 3km
[12:30] <pb0ahx> i think 125km not sure
[12:31] <g8fjg> its over 250 ...looks like its floating at 2800 ish
[12:32] <g8fjg> its over 250km down range for me
[12:33] <TT7> after being used to line of sight decodes, seeing OK7DMT-8 decoded from 17457km away is quite nice :)
[12:33] <TT7> the balloon is at 8km and the receiver in New Zealand
[12:36] <F4GYK> @TTY : WSPR on 20m ?
[12:36] <F4GYK> @TT7 : WSPR on 20m ?
[12:36] <TT7> F4GYK: yes
[12:36] <F4GYK> Thanks...
[12:37] <TT7> it is Si5351 so should be about 25mW
[12:39] <PE2BZ> g8fjg My guess would be that the battery dropped from 2.824 volt down to 2.821 and that is not the height ?
[12:39] <g8fjg> $HILCO,58,12:38:22,71.05;538,/2.552759,5577,49,2788,3 it gets lock sometimes
[12:40] <g8fjg> Ben ok ...its very close to the noise here
[12:40] <daveake> Not on map tho ?
[12:42] <PE2BZ> no payload doc with the letters hil in it...
[12:43] <PE2BZ> That´s Zahra I see
[12:44] <daveake> There is a payload doc
[12:44] <g8fjg> 51.083595,-2,506385 got that dont know if errors in it
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[12:50] <g8fjg> lost the signal now :-(
[12:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3IZR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3IZR-11
[13:03] <F4GYK> Really no luck with Pico or Hilcox :-( , i beam my antenna to OK7DMT
[13:03] <dbrooke> not the HABs I was looking for but 434.3 NBFM has tone sequences and a female voice announcement which I can hardly make out but sounds like an altitude in feet, anyone else hear it?
[13:04] <craag> sounds like an old sonde
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[13:05] <dbrooke> it's quite weak with me but was the only signal I could see in the ISM band (apart from the local sensors)
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[13:10] <g8fjg> dbrooke yep I can hear it
[13:11] <chrisg7ogx> any news of the Sidmouth balloon?
[13:11] <Harvy_> Picochu is nearing the end of it's flight.
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[13:12] <Harvy_> We think it had an ascent of 5ms, so it is going to end up in the sea.
[13:15] <dbrooke> g8fjg: good to know I'm not imagining it 8-) strange thing is I think I made out 900 feet and then later 700 feet and just now 1100 feet
[13:15] <SIbot> In real units: 900 ft = 274 m
[13:15] <dbrooke> thanks sibot
[13:16] <dbrooke> and just now 900 again ...
[13:16] <craag> 700ft
[13:16] <SIbot> In real units: 700 ft = 213 m
[13:16] <craag> 1100ft
[13:16] <SIbot> In real units: 1100 ft = 335 m
[13:16] <craag> you're welcome ;)
[13:17] <g8fjg> I cant "decode" her voice ,my kit's not designed for FM,, but the tones are strange
[13:18] <dbrooke> I'm guessing a low reference tone followed by a series of values encoded as frequency
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[13:19] <g8fjg> even thats gone for me now! time to give up and do dinner
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[13:20] <dbrooke> gone for me too, back to installing a new network switch and rewiring the rack accordingly
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[13:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W4HTB-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4HTB-11
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[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ2PPL-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ2PPL-12
[13:43] <Harvy> G8KNN, I guess you haven't got any picochu strings since 11-ish?
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[13:45] <aadamson> Upu, any tricks to swap an m8m into an 7c hardware design *and* enable the 1pps? I never get the rising voltage (on in this case trigger the interrupt, and yet the 7C works just fine) - out of the box?
[13:46] <aadamson> actually M8C in this case
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[14:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO3OCM-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO3OCM-9
[14:36] <Upu> hey aadamson - PPS isn't disabled on M8C / M8Q
[14:37] <Upu> works as 7Q/&C
[14:40] <aadamson> strange, no ubx commands, drop a 7C in interrupt on processor works, drop in M8C no interrupt (no rising voltage on the 1PPS output
[14:40] <aadamson> doesn't matter if I turn on off SBAS or GNSS
[14:42] <Upu> I dunno but if you power one on with an antenna and it gets a lock you get PPS
[14:43] <aadamson> yeah me either cuz thats all I'm doing... :(
[14:43] <aadamson> oh well, I'll figure it out when I have more time... gotta travel today.. thanks for the response!
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[15:12] <daveake> Yeah "just works", or should do
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[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W7BLO-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7BLO-1
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[18:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W7BLO-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7BLO-2
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[20:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[20:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[21:00] <Wiktor> Darkside: did you see radiosondy.info?
[21:00] <Wiktor> :D
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[22:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-72 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-72
[22:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03f_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=f_chase
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[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:24] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(30.48107,-69.03785) at 0312999 meters about 032 hours ago
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