highaltitude.log.20171012

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[00:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NM5SS-1 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-1
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[06:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Catalyst.01_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Catalyst.01_chase
[06:19] Nick change: pe2bz_ -> PE2BZ
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[06:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
[07:19] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> BSS12 have been up for more then 6 days now so I shouls say the clear aliexpress balloons works quite well
[07:20] <PE2BZ> Daveake, good morning again :-) If you have some time left, I am lost somehow... In http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2101 you write ¨Those last 2 wires can now be bent round and connected to the GPS; the wire in the right of the above photo above goes to the TXD hole whilst the other goes to the RXD hole: ¨ but the image shows from right to left IO pins 8 and 10, making 8 (RPI TXd ) the wire which I connected to the TXd of the GP
[07:20] <PE2BZ> S and that seems not ok to me
[07:21] <PE2BZ> Am I right thinking that gpio pin 8 (txd on the Pi) should go to rxd on the gps and gpio pin 10 (rxd on the Pi) should go to the txd on the Pi ?
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[07:42] <Darkside> PE2BZ: hey
[07:42] <Darkside> PE2BZ: so apparently there's a few guys in hungary who are using the radiosonde auto_rx code with success to track RS41s!
[07:43] <Darkside> not sure waht their antenna / preamp setup is mind you
[07:43] <Vaizki> PE2BZ, do you have a logic analyzer? always nice to have and stick on the txd pins to see if they are actually sending something
[07:43] <Darkside> but at least I know it works in the wild..
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[07:45] <Vaizki> PE2BZ, but I agree with you.. seems like it's telling you to wire TX to TX
[07:47] <Vaizki> PE2BZ, and if you look at this image, it seems they are connected "right", TXD(8) to GPS RXD and RXD(19) to GPS TXD.. http://www.daveakerman.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_4334-768x576.jpg
[07:50] <PE2BZ> Good morning all
[07:52] <PE2BZ> System time set from GPS time
[07:52] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PI0-BZ,3,07:52:33,51.99161,4.19885,00037,1,0,6,26.1*B1E9
[07:52] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PI0-BZ,4,07:52:33,51.99161,4.19885,00037,1,0,6,26.1*764C
[07:52] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PI0-BZ,5,07:52:33,51.99161,4.19885,00037,1,0,6,26.1*31A0
[07:52] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PI0-BZ,6,07:52:34,51.99161,4.19886,00041,5,0,5,26.1*7EAF
[07:54] <Vaizki> looks good'ish
[07:54] <daveake> PE2BZ: Rx to Tx, Tx to Rx, as always
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[07:55] <Vaizki> daveake, aye but your caption mixes them up
[07:55] <PE2BZ> Vaizki No logic analyzer, battery powers oscilloscope showed data on the txd at the gps receiver. Being ignored by the Pi.... So I viewed the Pi Zero pinout at https://pinout.xyz/pinout/io_pi_zero and supposed TX to be bouncing to TX. So I rewired TX and RX at the gps module and there it goes...
[07:55] <PE2BZ> daveake logic indeed. But you photo is upside down, making the wrong wire the right wire ;-)
[07:56] <Vaizki> flip it again and 2 wrongs will make a right
[07:56] <PE2BZ> Then I get flipped ;-)
[07:56] <daveake> Yeah probably flipped the photo. I'll fix it.
[07:57] <PE2BZ> Darkside : I had a kind reply about our activity weekend, from hungaria too ;-) to bad the rope snapped, our flight would have been flying up to 11 hours, close to the border with Austria
[07:57] <fsphil> reminds me, DL7AD1 I'm removing your flip fix
[07:58] <daveake> fixed
[07:59] <PE2BZ> daveake thats a fast fix :-)
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[08:01] <PE2BZ> daveake yesterday I flew the Pi Zero on a drone. At that moment without the GPS. I had Lora mode 3 images, one each minute. I expected the FULL images also to be saved one each minute, but those where 1 each 4 minutes. So today with the GPS installed I will try again (without drone this time) but is there a way to have more images locally stored on SD than transmitted on SSDV ?
[08:02] <daveake> Yoiu can set the time between photos separately for each "channel", where the channels are RTTY, LoRA (2 of them) and a dummy "FULL" channel which has no radio associated with it
[08:04] <PE2BZ> Stupid me.... full_image_period=240
[08:04] <PE2BZ> that´s the 4 minute interval
[08:04] <PE2BZ> Thanks for another fast fix !
[08:12] <daveake> I did a blog post on photo settings, btu you found it anyway
[08:17] <PE2BZ> Currently calculating the right vertical resolution for 720 horizontal with a 8 MP camera. Should be 541 and not 480 as I used. Explains the short people. Does ssdv.habhub.org take any resolution by the way ?
[08:18] Action: PE2BZ remembers something about multiples of 16 so now uses 544 for the vertical resolution
[08:19] <fsphil> yeah multiple of 16
[08:22] <Darkside> hehe
[08:22] <daveake> pits fixes that if necessary
[08:22] <Darkside> i regularly push full HD images into ssdv.habhub.org
[08:22] Action: PE2BZ is gently convincing the Pi Zero it´s time to get re-assembled.
[08:26] <PE2BZ> Darkside we have only 4 receivers around...
[08:27] <Darkside> thats about as many as we usually have too :P
[08:27] <PE2BZ> How many of the HD images are complete ?
[08:28] <Darkside> ehhhhh
[08:28] <Darkside> not sure
[08:28] <Darkside> its using a custom downlink system btw
[08:28] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/wenet
[08:29] <PE2BZ> Yesterday I was flying the Pi (in HAM licensed frequency band) with 100 mW. At 50 m asl we had good rx at 9 km distance :-)
[08:29] <PE2BZ> And now I have to wait for the GPS lock. Just wait... Do not apply hot glue yet, wait patiently ;-)
[08:31] <fsphil> Darkside: have you had any problems with the rfm98 and lower than expected output power?
[08:31] <Darkside> not really
[08:32] <Darkside> its definitely lower than expected
[08:32] <Darkside> but ehh
[08:32] <Darkside> i run at about 50mw
[08:32] <fsphil> I have it set for 10mw but there's probably only 1mw making it out
[08:33] <Darkside> huh
[08:33] <fsphil> second one I tried was even worse
[08:33] <Darkside> im not measuring that much difference
[08:33] <Darkside> i was seeing maybe 2-3db below what i asked for
[08:33] <fsphil> this was the 869mhz module, so might be specific to that
[08:34] <Darkside> ah
[08:34] <daveake> So if <cough> I forgot to set 5mW instead of 10mW on my 868 flights, I was still legal ? <cough>
[08:35] <Darkside> use a spec-an and find out :-)
[08:35] <Darkside> or a power meter
[08:35] <daveake> yeah let me grab mine ... oh don't have one :)
[08:35] <Darkside> Upu does
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[08:35] <Darkside> and he makes PCBs with the modules on them :p
[08:35] <daveake> :)
[08:36] <Upu> wut ?
[08:36] <Upu> yes dave
[08:36] <PE2BZ> They are cheap on Ebay, power meters with lcd display from China
[08:36] <Upu> your legal and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise and/or care
[08:37] <Darkside> you're *
[08:37] <Darkside> >_>
[08:38] <Upu> lol
[08:38] <PE2BZ> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RF-Power-Meter-8GHz-1-8000Mhz-55-5-dBm-OLED-LCD-Sofware-Attenuation-setting-/131885302203?hash=item1eb4fa01bb:g:iwAAAOSwOVpXfG1P
[08:39] <Darkside> interesting
[08:39] <Darkside> would be interested to test it against a decent power meter
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[08:42] <Vaizki> I just bit the bullet when I was offered a "cheap" spectrum analyzer.. and sold off a bunch of other gear to cover half the cost :P
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[08:43] <PE2BZ> I work with FSG-3 from Rohde and Schwarz at my work, and Sertel cable tester with dvb-t and dvb-s so I don´t have to buy spectrum analyzer :-)
[08:44] <PE2BZ> No gps luck for 14 minutes. Time and date are known b
[08:44] <PE2BZ> but no gps lock
[08:45] <PE2BZ> In front of the open window at the back of the house. The orientation of the gps chip antenne would not matter much I guess ?
[08:45] <Vaizki> MS8609A cost me 1400 euros.. but hey what's a hobby that doesn't kill your wallet? :D
[08:45] <Vaizki> how many satellites?
[08:46] <PE2BZ> There are not much ;-)
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[08:46] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,084609.00,,,,,0,00,99.99,,,,,,*7B
[08:46] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,084610.00,V,,,,,,,121017,,,N*6C
[08:46] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,084610.00,,,,,0,00,99.99,,,,,,*73
[08:46] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,084611.00,V,,,,,,,121017,,,N*6D
[08:46] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,084611.00,,,,,0,00,99.99,,,,,,*72
[08:47] <PE2BZ> that´s with cat /dev/ttyAMA0
[08:47] <Vaizki> not much indeed
[08:48] <craag> The receiver likes to see more than half of the hemisphere for a position fix, so a short distance outside the window may work a lot better.
[08:49] <PE2BZ> Now you tell me... I have a 60 cm USB power cable atm ;-)
[08:49] <Vaizki> with the sarantel helical antenna and saw upu's module will get a fix on the inside windowsill, behind triple glazing.. haven't had luck with other modules
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[08:50] <craag> yeah the sarantel + lna is a magic combination
[08:51] <craag> the chip antenna with no lna doesn't have as much sensitivity so works less well indoors
[08:51] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085105.00,,,,,0,04,22.98,,,,,,*74
[08:51] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,085106.00,V,,,,,,,121017,,,N*6D
[08:51] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085106.00,,,,,0,04,22.97,,,,,,*78
[08:51] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,085107.00,V,,,,,,,121017,,,N*6C
[08:51] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085107.00,,,,,0,04,22.96,,,,,,*78
[08:51] <PE2BZ> Now I have to find longer arms...
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,085257.00,A,5159.48597,N,00411.90619,E,14.721,267.01,121017,,,A*46
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085257.00,5159.48597,N,00411.90619,E,1,06,5.49,27.4,M,45.9,M,,*74
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,085258.00,A,5159.48598,N,00411.90312,E,12.202,267.79,121017,,,A*45
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085258.00,5159.48598,N,00411.90312,E,1,06,5.49,29.4,M,45.9,M,,*74
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNRMC,085259.00,A,5159.48618,N,00411.90094,E,8.586,270.22,121017,,,A*7A
[08:53] <PE2BZ> $GNGGA,085259.00,5159.48618,N,00411.90094,E,1,06,5.49,31.5,M,45.9,M,,*7B
[08:54] <craag> yay
[08:55] <PE2BZ> I guess that looks OK now, hanging outdoor on the selfie stick ?
[08:57] <Vaizki> everything was fine until the gratuituous admission of owning a selfie stick...
[08:57] <Vaizki> damn my spelling & typing.. :)
[08:57] <Darkside> Vaizki: all respect lost
[08:57] <Darkside> :P
[08:58] <Vaizki> not a big loss
[08:58] <PE2BZ> I now have GPS in the tracker info also :-) Just had to stop cat /dev/ttyAMA0 which I assumed could run together. Time to close the window now...
[08:58] <Vaizki> yea serial character devices can unfortunately be read by one process at a time
[09:02] <Vaizki> a long time ago I did a NMEA output muxer that was a small process that just read the serial port and send the lines out as UDP to localhost
[09:02] <Vaizki> then my processes would use SO_REUSEADDR setsockopt and all bind to the same port to receive them
[09:03] <Darkside> i do something similar in my chase car, but via broadcast udp
[09:03] <Darkside> and i do some processing of the NMEA stream first though
[09:03] <Darkside> lots of broadcast UDP packets flying around my chase car
[09:04] <Vaizki> well that doesn't really differ at all except for the addressing..
[09:04] <Darkside> yup
[09:04] <Darkside> all my stuff is python dictionaries serialised as JSON
[09:05] <Vaizki> what.. no msgpack or bson ;)
[09:05] <Vaizki> I would just use zmq now tbh
[09:06] <Vaizki> yes it's an extra dependency but not a horrible one
[09:06] <Darkside> i should look at something like MQTT or whatever
[09:06] <Vaizki> look at zeromq
[09:06] <Darkside> but UDP broadcast works for now
[09:06] <Darkside> mmk
[09:07] <Vaizki> http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all
[09:07] <Vaizki> long'ish read but it's ALL on that page just like the URL says :)
[09:08] <Vaizki> zeromq does not care about or implement serialization of data, it's just the transport
[09:11] <Vaizki> but if you want to have a broker and latency or throughput is not going to be a problem, then MQTT is of course a hip & easy thing to do :)
[09:11] <zyp> or AMQP
[09:11] <Vaizki> that's a big hammer..
[09:13] <PE2BZ> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2017-10-12--09-03-47-PI0-BZ-1AF7C.jpeg?u=143 I should really take some time to cleanout this mess
[09:14] <Vaizki> looks normal...
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[09:14] <Vaizki> I have a sauna stove on my bench right now..
[09:15] <zyp> Vaizki, I don't know, I don't find rabbitmq any harder to work with than the other solutions
[09:15] <zyp> I have some experience with all three
[09:15] <daveake> Why spend 30 minutes clearing up, when an hour later it'll be back to normal?
[09:16] <Vaizki> yesterday I noticed that my new ESD mat on the table which has been there for over 6 months has ZERO burn marks on it and ZERO unremovable chemical stains
[09:16] <Vaizki> not sure if I should be proud or not ;)
[09:17] <zyp> Vaizki, the advantages with broker solutions over zeromq is simple connection handling - either you're connected to the broker or not, no need to worry about whether you can talk to the individual components
[09:18] <Vaizki> zyp, sure.. but I work with always-on systems where we need to do rolling upgrades of processes and it's nice not to have a broker process
[09:19] <zyp> MQTT has the retain-functionality which makes it a key-value store that you can subscribe to - nice to hold state in a distributed system
[09:19] <Vaizki> and zeromq is nicely between bare sockets and full-blown message queues
[09:20] <zyp> but I really miss the explicit channels and queues from AMQP
[09:20] <Vaizki> umm the retained message is held at the broker, not distributed throughout?
[09:20] <zyp> Vaizki, yeah, as a replacement for bare sockets, zeromq is nice
[09:20] <Vaizki> or have I understood it wrong
[09:21] <Vaizki> so you can send position updates for example with the retain flag and anyone connecting to broker will get the last position immediately
[09:21] <zyp> Vaizki, you understand it right, I didn't say the storage itself is distributed
[09:22] <Vaizki> I also like the will messages in MQTT so you can "customize" what happens in disconnects
[09:22] <zyp> yeah
[09:22] <Vaizki> but not sure how you would easily do a MQTT system that does not hickup when you restart the broker
[09:23] <Vaizki> zero relevance to HAB really, just wondering :)
[09:24] <zyp> well, either broker stores retained messages persistently, or clients always republish retained messages after a reconnect, I guess
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[10:08] <DL7AD1> fsphil: yes. not necessary anymore
[10:10] <Laurenceb> https://www.gumtree.com/p/tatoo-body-art/titan-3-q-switch-nd-yag-laser-tattoo-removal-machine/1157412863
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[10:14] <Laurenceb> I make that 500MW peak
[10:14] <Laurenceb> UKP3/MW isnt bad for a laser
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NEPTUN-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NEPTUN-3
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[12:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03polacho_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=polacho_chase
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[13:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W4HTB-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4HTB-11
[13:17] <AndyEsser> Vaizki: just had a quick looksie at zero mq
[13:17] <AndyEsser> it's quite nice
[13:22] <Vaizki> too low level to be fashionable ;)
[13:23] <AndyEsser> lol
[13:23] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[13:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(30.48107,-143.03785) at 0312999 meters about 0311 hours ago
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[13:23] <AndyEsser> yep... sure
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M3WVB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3WVB
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[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KB1KVR after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1KVR
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[14:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[14:06] <MOVE-ON> Hi all this is Michael from the MOVE-ON team, we are planning to launch our HAB near Munich on Saturday and we'd like to use the habitat for tracking and visualisation. Since we are working on this project just four days I'm not qite shure if this is the correct channel? :-) Best regards Michael
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[14:16] <PE2BZ> Hi Michael, from MOVE-ON , this is the right channel for advise, questions and links to info
[14:17] <PE2BZ> If you have questions just drop them here. If there is a flightdoc which has to be approved ask that in #habhub but create a payload doc first and test it.
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[14:34] <MOVE-ON> Dear PE2BZ thank you very much for the information, I'm glad to hear that we are on the right path. :-)
[14:34] <MOVE-ON> I've prepared the documents and will report to #habhub :-)
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[14:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD5GOM-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[14:48] <craag> MOVE-ON: Have a read of http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1732
[14:49] <craag> Sorry, thought that had payload doc guidance.
[14:50] <Ian_> It's still worth a good read though :)
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[15:07] <daveake> MOVE-ON: Have a read of https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:documents
[15:08] <daveake> And did I read that right? 4 days into the project so far, 2 to go ?
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[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[15:12] <fsphil> I get it
[15:12] <shiftplusone> daveake: ah, thought I'd find you here. Currently doing some packaging of your work, so I'll probably have a ton of questions later. Apologies in advance.
[15:13] <daveake> have fun :)
[15:15] <shiftplusone> Looks like it will be
[15:15] <shiftplusone> tricky dependencies
[15:15] <daveake> I'm permanently logged in but not permanently here, esp. this week (dose of man flu)
[15:16] <shiftplusone> a bit of that going around pi towers as well
[15:17] <daveake> Made the mistake of a city break at the weekend ... half the plane was coughing and sneezing
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[15:19] <fsphil> at least you where not making a conference speech
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[15:20] <fsphil> packaging for raspbian? that should be handy
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[15:22] <shiftplusone> yeah, rtl-sdr with dave's patch, dl-fldigi and all that... so that you can just apt-get install the common tools
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[15:24] <shiftplusone> need to find my sdr dongles for testing though... no idea if what I've done so far is even working.
[15:24] <shiftplusone> plus all this HAB stuff is completely foreign to me, so it's interesting to learn a bit.
[15:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[15:26] <daveake> James should have some, or they're pretty cheap to buy, or I have some spares
[15:27] <shiftplusone> I know I have some lying around, so I'll just have to rummage through some boxes when I get home
[15:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[15:28] <daveake> Some of them drift appallingly; others are rock solid. See http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2011. The drifty ones can make decoding RTTY impossible
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[15:34] <shiftplusone> Mine seems to be E4000
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[15:58] <PE2BZ> offtopic FM radio for everyone http://radio.garden/live/canterbury/csrfm/
[16:01] <shiftplusone> lots of errors compiling dl-fldigi on stretch... seems like mostly c++11 issues
[16:03] <craag> welcome to the rabbit-hole...
[16:03] <shiftplusone> is it a rabbit hole somebody crawled out of with a nice patch?
[16:04] <craag> there are a couple of 3rd-party forks around where people have claimed to get it compiling on 16.04 that might help
[16:04] <craag> not tried them myself
[16:04] <craag> mfa298: might know more
[16:07] <shiftplusone> Alright, thanks. I'll bang my head against this for a while and poke mfa298 when he's around.
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[17:00] <mfa298> shiftplusone: craag: I've not tried dl-fldigi on stretch yet - been a while since I tried on a Pi with jessie
[17:01] <shiftplusone> ah, thanks.
[17:01] <mfa298> although I do have a Pi2 and uSD here waiting for a stretch image.
[17:01] <shiftplusone> slowly making progress here
[17:01] <shiftplusone> I think the problem is also that I am using 3.1, which is outdated in other ways too
[17:02] <mfa298> the 3.2 from James Coxons github might be worth a try - that might have a few more patches in
[17:03] <shiftplusone> I've backported the fltk patch from there... seeing what the next stumbling block is.
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V3
[17:05] <shiftplusone> if that works, 3.2 should work as well.
[17:05] <shiftplusone> daveake: do the docs say to check out DL3.1 because there's a reason not to use 3.2?
[17:14] <daveake> 3.1 was the one referred to in the wiki, and I started with the instructions there for Ubuntu
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[17:15] <daveake> Also, it's possible that 3.2 has the broken RTTY decoder; dunno
[17:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N5GAS-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N5GAS-5
[17:15] <mfa298> I think at one point the newer versions didn't compile on ubuntu 14.04, there were also issues with master not working that well. but I think both off those issues are better now
[17:16] <shiftplusone> got it, thanks
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[17:24] <shiftplusone> right... bus to catch. Will see how the build went tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
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[18:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GTO_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GTO_chase
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[19:02] <Harvy> Hi I was wondering if anyone can help me with an PITS decode?
[19:02] <Harvy> I am just getting random characters when using the default settings.
[19:02] <Harvy> It was working a few days ago but just now prints characters.
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[19:03] <Harvy> First crazy question is do I need a GPS lock to get back a sensible string?
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[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-rs41 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-rs41
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[19:50] <daveake> No you don't need a GPS lock
[19:50] <daveake> If you're getting random characters then it's a decode issue
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:37] <russss> https://soccom.princeton.edu/content/soccom-float-surfaces-inside-rare-antarctic-sea-ice-opening (#lowaltitude)
[23:39] <Kryczek> russss: nice!
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:44] <russss> I dunno how much of a coincidence that is but it's certainly good science
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