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[00:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03T_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=T_chase
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[01:56] <Norm_> has anybody used a helium regulator that is made for filling party balloons? I have one with the tilt valve removed and a hose fitted in its place.
[01:56] <Norm_> How long would it take to fill a 1200 g balloon (about 5000 liters)
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[04:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC2DIJ-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC2DIJ-1
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[07:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
[07:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> I launched a tracker last Friday with the new found aliexpress balloon, it still flying :) ^^ so they are a cheap replacement to the Qualatex for picoflights , https://micked.imgur.com/all/
[07:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://imgur.com/88jU3Ql
[07:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> it looks like they might need a bit more free lift then the qualatex, will go with 3gram next flight, this one have 2grma
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[07:08] <Upu> that looks disgustingly fragile Mike-SA6BSS :)
[07:09] <Mike-SA6BSS> it might look fragile but it expand 160% over it originl voume before burst compared to qualatex 120% iirc
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[07:11] <Mike-SA6BSS> and as its clear it likley to absorb more ir at night which have the beneefit of 1. not decent as much a silver ballons does. 2. its less likley to be iced down as asilver balloon usuly gets colder then the surrounding air and a clear does not
[07:11] <Mike-SA6BSS> and they are $ 1.50 :)
[07:13] <Upu> I meant the tracker with those solar panels
[07:13] <Upu> I've used them and they break if you look at them slightly funny
[07:13] <fsphil> or if someone drops something. three houses over
[07:14] <Mike-SA6BSS> ah :) yesh but it works :) as soon thay are up there is no stress on the panales and I´m using 0,4mm wire inbetween the cells so they do flex qute abit before breaking
[07:15] <Mike-SA6BSS> I can bent the panels to the right angle after soldered on without breaking them :) but yes, verry frigile!
[07:16] <fsphil> individual cells?
[07:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> yep, 6 of them the smalles kind 19x39mm
[07:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://imgur.com/BYCEDaR here is the one thats up now
[07:17] <Mike-SA6BSS> will remove the gps cover next flight , saves med 0,22gram :) hehe
[07:18] <fsphil> cute
[07:18] <fsphil> the cells I have here and the ones I think upu's talking about can't be bent at all
[07:18] <fsphil> even slightly
[07:19] <Mike-SA6BSS> its the same cell I use, but soldered on with the right kind of wire they can be adjsuted without breaking
[07:19] <Mike-SA6BSS> adjusted slighly
[07:19] <fsphil> cool
[07:20] <Mike-SA6BSS> 0,8mm to the center to the pcb so the cells dont bend over time and 0,4mm on the rest
[07:21] <Mike-SA6BSS> the whole 6 cells and wire is 2,2gram
[07:22] <fsphil> is that the battery capton'ed at the bottom?
[07:23] <Mike-SA6BSS> no battery or supercap, feeding the 3,42v directly to the VCC line
[07:23] <Mike-SA6BSS> its just some isolation for the crystalls
[07:23] <Mike-SA6BSS> crystal and ctxo
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[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:43] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(24.48107,-179.03785) at 0312999 meters about 038 hours ago
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[11:59] <Laurenceb_> >buy a bunch of McDonalds sauce pots and empty them
[11:59] <Laurenceb_> >print a replacement lid that looks like the szechuan one
[11:59] <Laurenceb_> >go to a supermarket and buy a .5L jar for £1
[11:59] <Laurenceb_> >fill them up and seal them
[11:59] <Laurenceb_> >sell each one for £100 to gullible fanboys
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[12:37] <gonzo_> people paying 100 each, are not going to be opening them, so why even bother changing the contents
[12:38] <gonzo_> if the printing can be wiped off, just stick your own lable over the top
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[13:16] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB4N4xF2B2w - F9 stage 2 iridium coast phase, coming up over te pole
[13:16] <SpeedEvil> Deploying Iridium sats.
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[13:36] <fsphil> and another booster down safely
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[13:37] <SpeedEvil> If they can only get S2 recovery working easily.
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> Without too much payload sacrifice
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> As that'll enable them to piviot more resource to BFR
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[13:44] <fsphil> how many of the first stages have been reflown?
[13:44] <fsphil> I only know of one
[13:46] <fsphil> ah they've done two others
[13:46] <udat> tha chairs being slid about in the background are noisy
[13:46] <fsphil> well, one other but one more planned
[13:46] Action: udat sends them a pack of felt feet
[13:46] <fsphil> the background noise seemed to be a kitchen on previous flights
[13:47] <udat> sounds canteen like
[13:47] <fsphil> I miss the technical stream
[13:47] <udat> clinking ot plates, lots of cheap chairs being slid in/out
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> Indeed
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[14:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NM5SS-1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-1
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[15:03] <gurlavie__> Can you please share the AliExpress link to the Balloon ?
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[16:22] <YO9GJX> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2017/october/radiostrat-probe-retrieved.htm#.WduiTFR96Y0
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[16:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-2
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[16:58] <Mike-SA6BSS> gurlavie__: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24-Inch-36-Inch-Clear-Foil-Balloons-Transparent-Aluminum-Balloon-Wedding-Birthday-Party-Decorations-Balon/32699218436.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1IBgL3
[16:58] <gurlavie__> Thanks !!
[16:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-4
[16:59] <Mike-SA6BSS> dont forget to click 36" if you order
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[17:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NM5SS-3 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-3
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[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-6
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[18:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5MASR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5MASR
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[18:40] <michal_f_home> !flights
[18:40] <SpacenearUS> 03michal_f_home: Current flights: 03WALLACE 10(fa1d), 03GROMIT 10(3cc4), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[19:08] <chris_> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=highaltitude
[19:09] <chris_> Hi there. I am just about to upload some test strings from Habduino 'Zahra'
[19:12] Action: bertrik is studying arabic in his free time and thinks of a flower
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[19:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HILCOX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HILCOX
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[19:46] <chris_> a76f45a533fd1d05ea25725297074eea
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[20:00] <Babs> Evening everyone - I have an avrisp mkii programmer that has been working flawlessly for a few years. I installed Atmel Studio7 to change the fuses on my atmega328 which I did successfully
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[20:01] <Babs> then I went back to Arduino to burn a sketch, only to be hit by avrdude: usbdev_open(): did not find any USB device "usb"
[20:01] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> removed and inserted the programmer from usb+
[20:01] Nick change: Mike-SA6BSS|2 -> Mike-SA6BSS
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[20:02] <Babs> Looking on the internet, it looks as if Studio7 installed a driver that is incompatible with arduino usb. I've rolled back the driver to a previous version but to no avail
[20:03] <Babs> there are a few potential solutions to solve it but none are based around windows 10. To avoid disappearing down rabbit holes are there any solutions that anyone else has used on Windows 10?
[20:03] <Babs> Thanks
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[20:04] <daveake> Run zadig, see what usb driver is associated with the device, and if necessary change that to be libusb-win32
[20:05] <daveake> Something like that anyway ... try different drivers till one works :)
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[20:07] <Babs> hey daveake - looks like WinUSB (v42.0.1.0)
[20:08] <daveake> Yeah, I never remember which one is for atmel and which for arduino
[20:08] <daveake> These days I use one laptop for the fuses and another for firmware :)
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4CZZ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4CZZ
[20:10] <Babs> daveake, i have said it before and i'll say it again
[20:10] <Babs> you are a god amongst men
[20:11] <Babs> it worked.superb.
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[20:11] <daveake> great :)
[20:11] <Babs> now, i guess i can't attach a specific driver to a specific avrisp mkii? ie i can't get around the problem by having two avrisps?
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[20:19] <daveake> pass
[20:19] <daveake> maybe in 2 usb ports
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[20:36] <Babs_> Many thanks daveake, with that I can still read and write fuses in Studio7, but also write through the programmer in the arduino IDE. Wasn't expecting to be able to do both but I will take it
[20:37] <daveake> cool
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[21:48] <ProSpectre> Evening guys.
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[23:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Pinkdaisey_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Pinkdaisey_chase
[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[23:44] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[23:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(25.48107,-167.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0322 minutes ago
[23:45] <Laurenceb_> perplexing
[23:45] <Laurenceb_> how does it do it
[23:55] <Ian_> Magic Laurenceb_, magic :) it does do it well though
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