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[01:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GAS-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GAS-1
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[02:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
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[03:17] <Norm_> I would like to have my flight doc approved, please.
[03:17] <Norm_> The Doc ID is 275f5621f38936e267020f4c54e84ef9
[03:20] <Darkside> join #habhub please
[03:22] <Norm_> how do I do that, please? I'm struggling to find the instructions
[03:23] <Darkside> /join #habhub
[03:23] <Darkside> but i've just approved that flight
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[03:23] <Norm_> thank you!
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[04:25] <sq6pog> Hello, I've just added payload and flight document for todays misson - SP6ZWR Wroclaw Space Week 2017
[04:25] <sq6pog> please approve it
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[04:34] <drohan> sq6pog You'll want to post it in #habhub
[04:34] <drohan> Post the flight document there
[04:34] <drohan> And someone will approve it
[04:34] <drohan> Join with /join habhub
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[04:35] <sq6pog> thank you @dorhan
[04:35] <sq6pog> /join habhub
[04:35] <sq6pog> awww
[04:36] <sq6pog> done
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[04:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR
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[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4SES-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4SES-11
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[07:01] <drohan> Are any of y'all familiar with the Arduino code for the ublox here? https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox8
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[07:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SV3CIX-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX-11
[08:01] <es5nhc> Note: KM4SES-11 was launched into the eye of hurricane Nate
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[08:05] <craag> drohan: A lot of people on here will have done at least very related stuff, so best just to ask the question :)
[08:06] <drohan> Aha fair enough, I should adopt that habit more often
[08:06] <drohan> es5nhc That's really cool! Damn
[08:07] <drohan> So I'm working with a version of the ublox8 and I'm using the Software Serial tutorial from https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox8, and I'm struggling to try and figure out how to limit what kind of signals to output
[08:07] <drohan> For example, the only sentence I really care about is $GNGGA
[08:07] <drohan> But the script as is outputs $GNGGA, $GNGSA, $GPGSV, and a whole bunch more
[08:08] <drohan> And I'm not sure if there's a flag somewhere I can set to manually restrict what comes through the serial or if I should just try to listen for each sentence and only pull the one(s) that are important
[08:09] <craag> so you can send a command to the ublox to tell it only to output certain messages
[08:09] <craag> but it may be easier to just listen to everything and then filter out gngga
[08:10] <drohan> I imagine it's in the line `uint8_t setNav[] = {
[08:10] <drohan> 0xB5, 0x62, 0x06, 0x24, 0x24, 0x00, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0x06, 0x03, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x10, 0x27, 0x00, 0x00,
[08:10] <drohan> 0x05, 0x00, 0xFA, 0x00, 0xFA, 0x00, 0x64, 0x00, 0x2C, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
[08:10] <drohan> 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x16, 0xDC };` somewhere
[08:10] <drohan> Oops... that didn't paste well
[08:10] <drohan> But I'm not really sure how to decode the hex and interpret it as instructions
[08:12] <craag> https://www.u-blox.com/en/product-resources?f[0]=property_file_product_filter%3A2684
[08:12] <craag> ^^ You want the 'Protocol Specification'
[08:14] <drohan> Ooh, I see
[08:15] <craag> So in addition to the standard ascii NMEA protocol, ublox stuff speaks UBX, it's own binary protocol, which that message you pasted is.
[08:16] <drohan> Right
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[09:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[09:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EPSOM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EPSOM
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[10:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-11
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI6WL-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI6WL-12
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[11:04] <dt_> !flights
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> 03dt_: Current flights: 03Wroclaw Space Week 2017 10(c632), 03PigglyPico 10(2889), 03Epsom Camera Launch 10(285e), 03WALLACE 10(fa1d), 03GROMIT 10(3cc4), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR_chase
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> Quiet in here today...
[11:26] <Steve_G0TDJ> Just to let you know, at the moment WALLACE and GROMIT are scheduled for launch at 3:00pm local time from Battle, East Sussex. Trackers very welcome.
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[11:31] <SpeedEvil> Steve_G0TDJ: good luck! (can't track)
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[11:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers SpeedEvil
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[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Epsomchase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Epsomchase
[11:35] <G4ZUP> Hi guys, I can hear EPSOM telemetry loud and clear, but its not decoding (or is just decoding as rubbish) in Fldigi. Any ideas please?
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PicoChu - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PicoChu
[11:37] <Guest9951> Which RTTY settings are used for PI6WL ?
[11:40] <PE2BZ> 75 bd 7n2 540 shift
[11:40] <g8fjg> 75/540 7n2
[11:40] <PE2BZ> testing payload pi6wl-airborne in fldigi
[11:42] <Guest9951> rgr, working now!
[11:43] <g0hdi> Epsom here too. Not strong enough to decode, getting louder though so hope to get a green soon.
[11:43] <g8fjg> G4ZUP 50 b 450 shift 8n2 make sure SQL is off you could try Rv
[11:45] <Guest9951> signal ok but qsb, diffcult to decode
[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:46] <g8fjg> Guest9951 make sure your AGC is set to fast
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[11:55] <G4ZUP> Now decoding EPSOM, and it says uploading to server, but not showing on Tracker
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[11:59] <Harvy_> Hi, I am just getting Ìà¬ðÀàÿÀð}À üÀà¬þüþ¬ü~¬ÀÀøøàðøð¬ÿø<¬à¬øÇþÀüüÀÀààÀ¬àÀ¬üÀøààÃÀøðððàÀðÀÀÀÎÀ¬ strings
[11:59] <Harvy_> for my PITS
[11:59] <Harvy_> Is it just a decoding issue?
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[12:05] <g8fjg> Harvy_ Is that to decode PicoChu? looks like you decoded it at least once... I suspect any setting could be wrong..screen shot?
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[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W4HTB-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4HTB-11
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[12:32] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Online real-time tracking at https://t.co/NnJSsVuf45 #amsat #hamradio #hamr #hab #ukhas https://t.co/7S9hwKYhse
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[12:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03picochu_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=picochu_chase
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TUX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TUX_chase
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[13:17] <Harvy_> g8fjg this is for a PITS shield.
[13:18] <Harvy_> So the Piggly callsign. It works just randomly, so I'm not sure why it sometimes I just get the incorrect encoding.
[13:19] <Harvy_> Why sometimes*
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[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-10 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
[14:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB1KVR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1KVR
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[14:26] <G0TDJ_Steve> WALLACE & GROMIT Launching soon
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[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[14:36] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:36] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(25.48107,178.96215) at 0312999 meters about 039 hours ago
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[15:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WALLACE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WALLACE
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[15:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GROMIT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GROMIT
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[15:37] <Laurenceb_> !whereis DL7AD-12
[15:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03DL7AD-12 was over 03Ust-Kulomsky District, Komi Republic, Russia 10(61.89213,55.29381) at 0311746 meters about 0315 days ago
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[16:02] <G0WXI> !WALLACE
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[16:29] <Brecki> Good evening, somebody on here?
[16:29] <Kryczek> maybe :P
[16:30] <Brecki> Ok, depends on my questions ...?
[16:30] <Kryczek> ...maybe?
[16:31] <Kryczek> ask away :)
[16:31] <Brecki> I'm new here and have some questions regarding experience of rtty receive distances.
[16:32] <Brecki> We are thinking about launching a balloon next year spring and I won the part of the RF transmission
[16:33] <Brecki> I've read about the pi-in-the-sky project and the transceiver of 10mW RTTY. That's pretty few power.
[16:33] <mfa298> Brecki: things like baud rate can have a significant impact (lower baud rates can be easier to decode over long distances)
[16:33] <Brecki> On the other hand I read about distances of more than 500km reception distance.
[16:34] <mfa298> once the balloon is in the sky you don't need much power
[16:34] <Brecki> What kind of receiver or antenna is necessary? Is there any experience about that?
[16:34] <mfa298> Brecki: where are you based?
[16:34] <Brecki> Of course the better the equipment is the higher is the probability of reception...
[16:35] <Brecki> I'm based in Germany, Minden (between Hanover, Bielefeld and Osnabrück)
[16:36] <Brecki> Does it make sense to try to receive a balloon with a sdr and e.g. a yagi antenna?
[16:36] <Brecki> Or is a high sensitive receiver inclusive preamp an a high gain antenna necessary?
[16:37] <mfa298> if you've got someone with an amateur radio license you may also want to look into aprs (I think it's legal to fly airborne over there)
[16:38] <Brecki> I've got one myself - at least I got one several years ago :-)
[16:38] <mfa298> first thing is probably to have a setup that can be easily be used in a mobile chase car, you need to be relatively close as the balloon comes down
[16:39] <mfa298> the basic rtlsdr dongles can work, but they're not as good as the better sdr dongles or some of the better multimode radios.
[16:39] <Brecki> For the chase car I thought of the sdr, a laptop and a 5-ele yagi
[16:40] <Brecki> Ok, so a "real" radio is preferable.
[16:40] <mfa298> as for good dongle vs good radio I think that comes down to personal preference as much as anything else.
[16:41] <mfa298> I'd suggest a magmount antenna on the car rather than yagi - it's going to be hard to keep a yagi pointed in the right direction when travelling
[16:41] <mfa298> a yagi can be useful if the payload has come down and the signal is maginal
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[16:42] <mfa298> yagi also allows some direction finding if needed (gps failed etc.)
[16:42] <Brecki> Hmm, you're right. Yagi in the car makes no sense and outside...
[16:43] <Brecki> Did anyone try a sdr in the chase car together with a magmount antenna and it worked?
[16:44] <mfa298> people have
[16:45] <Brecki> Ok, last question for today. You mentioned APRS might be preferrable to RTTY? Why?
[16:45] <mfa298> I used a funcube pro+ once and it mostly worked (wasn't my flight and that wasn't the only receiver we had in the car)
[16:46] <mfa298> I'd potentially look at both iff it's legal (UK can't run amateur radio airborne so aprs isn't really an option)
[16:46] <F4GUK> !dial wallace
[16:46] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Latest dials for 03WALLACE 10(fa1d): 03440.262 MHz, 434.5479 MHz, 434.55 MHz, 434.5484 MHz
[16:47] <mfa298> aprs gives a ready made receiving network, rtty can give faster updates and potentially also live images with ssdv (although that needs 300bd or faster)
[16:48] <F4GUK> !dial gromit
[16:48] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Latest dials for 03GROMIT 10(3cc4): 03434.65 MHz, 434.448628 MHz
[16:48] <Brecki> Ok, I think I will inform myself a little bit more about aprs. Thanks for now and have a nice evening.
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[17:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> WALLACE & GROMIT Still doing well :-)
[17:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> At home now, tracking GROMIT.
[17:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Thanks again all the trackers. VEry much appreciated by both me and St. Richards Catholic College
[17:09] <Kryczek> Steve_G0TDJ: is it going to the moon, and if so, can it please bring back some cheese?
[17:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL I'll send a message now :D
[17:11] <Kryczek> =)
[17:15] <g8fjg> Steve_G0TDJ any pctures of the launch vehicals .... from 65 west wallaby st or was it 62?
[17:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> :-) You know, I didn't get a chance to take a simgle pic but I'm hoping to post some on ProjectHAB.co.uk in the next week sometime
[17:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> *single
[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-9 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-9
[17:18] <g8fjg> cracking
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[17:21] <g8fjg> Steve_G0TDJ cracking signals from them both qrm on WALLACE at times . ... well done
[17:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> g8fjg: Many thanks. Conditions couldn't have been better. Quite still and warm :-) Both WALLACE & GROMIT have gone into Float too
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[17:25] <g8fjg> Steve_G0TDJ I'll just leave the kit running until physics takes over...really stable QRG wise, both about 30db over noise with me...:-)
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[17:27] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers. Both VAYU-NTX trackers. Design files available on my website www.ProjectHAB.co.uk
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[17:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> !dial WALLACE
[17:35] <SpacenearUS> 03Steve_G0TDJ: Latest dials for 03WALLACE 10(fa1d): 03434.54879 MHz, 434.55 MHz, 440.262 MHz, 4.410364 MHz
[17:41] <g8fjg> ^^^^
[17:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yay! GROMIT Made it to France :D
[17:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, I saw that. Dunno who's uploading that frequency
[17:42] <g8fjg> should have been under 434.55
[17:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Someone's radio requires a little calibration....
[17:45] <g8fjg> I never know if people want "dial" for a 1khz centre ... or the mark qrg .. fairly sure I know were I am !!
[17:48] <g8fjg> both signals off the 14 ele v @ 10 mtr agl now ... through a coax splitter.
[17:49] <Steve_G0TDJ> I just have a Collinear but it's a fair way up with unrestricted view of the French coast :-)
[17:51] <g8fjg> damn the North and South Downs and all the hills ...only a few mtrs asl here ..on the mud flats
[17:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> Right, dinner now. I know I keep saying thanks but THANKS! :-) I'll pop back tomorrow and find out how I can get the telemetry list which has been requested.
[17:52] <g8fjg> 73
[17:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> 73 es Gud DX HABs :D
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[17:52] <g8fjg> ..
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[17:56] <mightymik> is there a websdr in/near paris on 434xxx?
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[19:42] <PE2BZ> !flights
[19:42] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Wroclaw Space Week 2017 10(c632), 03PigglyPico 10(2889), 03Epsom Camera Launch 10(285e), 03PI6WL-Airborne-day2 10(62c2), 03WALLACE 10(fa1d), 03GROMIT 10(3cc4), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[19:42] <PE2BZ> !dial wallace
[19:42] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03WALLACE 10(fa1d): 03434.54879 MHz, 450.45 MHz, 434.65 MHz
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[19:50] <gonzo_> badgers_
[19:50] <badgers_> Q5 rg
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[20:53] <F4GUK> No more signal for "Gromit".
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[20:59] <gurlavie__> Hi guys. Any one knows VE3KCL ? his floater is CG3OCL-11. Looking for details of the tracker.
[21:05] <F4GUK> For VE3KCL : listen WSPR mode on 20m band (14.097 MHz). It's call is CG3OCL
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[21:16] <gurlavie__> do yo uknow how does he relay it to APRS ?
[21:16] <gurlavie__> any way to contact him to understand the setup he is using ?
[21:16] <gurlavie__> Thanks !
[21:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[21:24] <F4GUK> Often, we can see HAB on the APRS map, but they don't transmit APRS signal. Someone "read" the WSPR data and transform it for an APRS map display.
[21:25] <F4GUK> About CG3OCL, i have received its strong signal on the 20m band, but nothing on APRS 2m band.
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[21:26] <gurlavie__> ok. Great. thanks.
[21:30] <F4GUK> The last moments of GROMIT transmissions : https://goo.gl/5tKtB1
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[21:30] <F4GUK> But Wallace is still alive !
[21:53] <gonzo_> didn't sound well
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[21:55] <F4GUK> @gonzo : for a RTTY transmission, no, really not ! :-D
[22:03] <F4GUK> Wallace : End of transmission too ?
[22:05] <F4GUK> Yes, Wallace TX is dead too.
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[22:36] <gonzo_> went weird too?
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[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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