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[00:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=-11
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[00:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N3HAB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N3HAB-11
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[00:35] <Ian_> HIRFW-6 is keeping it's altitude well.
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[01:52] <userscott> Evening all, hoping somebody is able to assist. I have tracked down a GPS issue I was having to my GPS antenna not working (tested it in lieu of known working GPS on my PITS and no signal...)
[01:53] <userscott> Anybody got any clues as to how to resolve?
[01:53] <userscott> I understand there is a form of reset internally that is triggered by software.
[01:53] <userscott> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_65&product_id=67
[01:53] <userscott> That is the antenna which I'm struggling with..
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[03:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zane_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zane_chase
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[07:29] <Dixson187> Anyone near London Essex want to lunch a high altitude balloon with cameras
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[07:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mazda 3_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=mazda%203_chase
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[08:26] <Maxell> morning'
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[10:31] <jarod> Anyone got a clue why Dl-Fldigi-3.21.50 HAB mode won't load in Windows 10?
[10:31] <jarod> Normale program does load, HAB mode quick popup and closes right away
[10:32] <Darkside> try running the program from a command prompt
[10:32] <Darkside> might show an error
[10:32] <jarod> with --hab? did, nothing
[10:32] <Darkside> ah
[10:32] <Darkside> dunno...
[10:32] <jarod> deleted user\dl-fldigi.files
[10:32] <jarod> now wizard pops up...
[10:33] <fsphil> pesky wizards
[10:35] <jarod> ok working again, weird, something must have corrupted
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[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI6WL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI6WL
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[11:04] <jarod> http://x264.nl/dump/52-2205/434.3875mhz-2017-10-07-pi6wl.jpg
[11:04] <jarod> working again, i am happy :)
[11:05] <DutchMillbt-mobi> PI6WL @434.385 on air
[11:05] <jarod> tracking \o/
[11:06] <DutchMillbt-mobi> Nice
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:17] <Maxell> And down
[11:17] <Maxell> Too much rain
[11:18] <Maxell> Going up again. Please skip the highway
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[11:22] <Maxell> It's down in the fields...
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[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mg169706_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=mg169706_chase
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[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6VWH - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6VWH
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[12:13] <russss> http://mashable.com/2017/10/06/puerto-rico-fcc-google-project-loon.amp
[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4BFP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4BFP-11
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[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[13:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[13:42] <userscott> Morning! Is anybody around to approve a flight document? :)
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[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M3WVB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3WVB
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[14:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-12
[14:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-8
[14:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4BFP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4BFP_chase
[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W4HTB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4HTB-11
[15:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[16:13] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[16:13] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(26.48107,172.96215) at 0312999 meters about 0311 hours ago
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[16:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MYLOFF2 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MYLOFF2
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[17:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI6WL after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI6WL
[17:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MYLOFF_CHASER_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MYLOFF_CHASER_chase
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[18:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
[18:13] <PE2BZ> So our expected to become floater did get as high as 1003 meter !
[18:13] <PE2BZ> Hail and rain (and perhaps, to be checked, a leak ?) did not nearly bring it the 700 km away that we planned.
[18:14] <PE2BZ> And the PiZero in the sky, with 450 gram necklift in a Hyowee 200 balloon with 200 meter rope only did want to go horizontal instead of up.
[18:15] <PE2BZ> But not all failed, the battery test works out ok.
[18:15] <PE2BZ> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=satellite&mz=17&qm=1_hour&mc=52.04745,4.5713&f=PI6WL
[18:16] <PE2BZ> There is a fence in the way. with warning signs about high voltage.... But that´s in the mast 200 meters behind the fence..
[18:16] <PE2BZ> So that was my story. Maybe tomorrow we fly again with the same callsign in rtty
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[18:35] <userscott> Looks like Myloff2 is a floater!
[18:35] <userscott> I bloody hope not!
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[18:42] <userscott> Oh no she's actually moving, panic over!
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[18:42] <PE2BZ> Pfewww
[18:43] <userscott> Shes at 30000 m but map not updating - telemetry issue at our end. Manually parsing data currently.
[18:44] <userscott> She's working! Chase is on! Hitting the road- talk later guys!!!
[18:44] <PE2BZ> Good luck !
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[19:06] <jeffree> hypothetically, if one wanted to rocket himself into space with no space vehicle and minimal budget, what rocket would suffice?
[19:07] <SpeedEvil> Define 'into space'
[19:07] <jeffree> to escape earths gravity
[19:07] <SpeedEvil> You mean into orbit?
[19:08] <jeffree> not necessarily
[19:08] <SpeedEvil> Into orbit or beyond. Such that you won't fall back.
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> https://www.rocketlabusa.com/electron/
[19:09] <jeffree> yes, orbit or beyond
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> The above is of the order of the rocket needed - ~10 tons launch weight. Optimistically
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> Assuming 'into space and then die in a few hours when your minimal suit air runs out' is OK
[19:14] <jeffree> yeah, that's the idea
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[19:21] <jeffree> any idea what that rocket costs? I don't see price listed
[19:22] <SpeedEvil> Around $5M frommemory
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[19:23] <jeffree> hmm
[19:23] <jeffree> does one need a license to buy rockets?
[19:23] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[19:28] <nick_> Who are you planning to launch into space?
[19:29] <SpeedEvil> Or wait 5-15 years and launch for $1000. Or 10-20 years and $100000, depending on who you believe.
[19:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[19:32] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[19:32] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 is over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(25.48107,176.96215) at 0312999 meters
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[19:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03 _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=%20_chase
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[20:48] <drohan> Does anyone here have experience prototyping with the Uputronics MTX2?
[20:59] <craag> A little, ask your question :)
[21:02] <drohan> craag Maybe I'm not thinking straight, but I've been stuck for the past 5 days on one simple, silly little problem -- The pins are spaced together quite closely and I can't see to find any kind of breadboard/development board to plug it into
[21:02] <drohan> And I'm kinda tearing my hair out because it seems to be like such a trivial, little problem but it has me so stumped
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[21:05] <Ian_> Did I mention the socket strip yesterday?
[21:05] <SpeedEvil> Solder wires, too
[21:06] <Userscott> Hi guys. Just a quick update. Our first flight was a success, landed within inches of where HABHUB predicted two hours earlier. Recovered in minutes, and broke through 35,000 meters in the end. Everything just worked, retrieved all footage and so on already. Thank you to upu, Daveake and _ian amongst others.
[21:07] <Ian_> The idea being to get a 2mm solder strip and cut cut it to fit the two pin groups as a cheaper alternative than a custom one off breakout board. Then attach wires to those pins to get to a regular breakout board and an RF socket.
[21:09] <Ian_> Was the suggestion for turning off the APRS by commenting out the define any use?
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[21:09] <userscott_> 35,496 meters overall.
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[21:46] <drohan> SpeedEvil do you mean soldering wires directly to the pins on the MTX?
[21:47] <drohan> And Ian_ By socket strip do you mean header pins? I tried those, but the MTX likewise won't fit into them as the spacing is too narrow on the radio
[21:47] <drohan> (Apologies if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, I'm a relative noob to CE projects)
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[21:48] <Ian_> https://www.toby.co.uk/content/catalogue/series.aspx?id=4&Category=32
[21:50] <drohan> Ohh, and get the 1mm ones I presume
[21:52] <Ian_> Left hand column sixth item down - for example. It would allow you to bend and solder wires to those pins and plug in the MTX2 rather than solder to it directly for development. That would preserve the device for proper use in a circuit board later. Bending socket pins opposite directions would give you 4mm spacing each side - if you understand what I am saying. For general pins at least. Cut a bit of socket off and use for RF co
[21:55] <Ian_> 2mm
[21:55] Nick change: rjsnyder -> rjs_
[21:56] <Ian_> Single strip of pins out the bottom, bend left and right alternately to give you access to solder at 4mm between centres on each side.
[22:00] <Ian_> chop off some of the socket to use with the RF pins and splay similarly and connect an SMA socket to them directly. Plug in the MTX2 device and you have a relatively simple breakout board. The Google search was "2mm socket connector" so that you can find a similar component from a US source.
[22:01] <Ian_> Am I making sense to you drohan . . . ah Derbyshire based not US?
[22:02] <Ian_> At an early stage in development I suggest that the NTX2B-FA may better fit your requirement for breadboarding.
[22:03] <drohan> Yes, that does make sense
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[22:03] <drohan> And yeah in hindsight the 2B probably would be a better idea
[22:03] <drohan> And US based, so getting stuff through customs can be a bit of a wait
[22:05] <Ian_> Good. 20:20 hindsight is a universal quality. You can see from the item in the link the type of component that I am recommending, so use Google to find a similar component in the US.
[22:07] <Ian_> Customs duty - ask Bombardier (aeroplanes) about that. Mr Trump has just upped a 220% import tax to either 280% or 300% - Special relationship . . . I think that maybe he wants to bugger someone :)
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[22:09] <Ian_> Meanwhile us mere mortals do the best we can.
[22:10] <Ian_> Sorry tariff not tax.
[22:10] <drohan> Ahha indeed
[22:11] <drohan> Huge, huge thank you for your consistent help :) Really wonderful community
[22:17] <Ian_> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8272 There you go. $1 should solve your problems. Top tip - plug in the device before bending the pins as recommended. That way you won't misalign the socket receptacles during the pin bending exercise.
[22:23] <Ian_> Sparkfun is a super source of components but the postage (included in the value) makes taxes inevitable and prohibitive for most things from the US to the UK. I go to China and await the banana boat arriving :)
[22:25] <Ian_> And the smart guys here do really well in helping out.
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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