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[00:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[02:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[05:53] <PE2BZ> !flights
[05:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03TT7F5 10(5540), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[06:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-12
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[08:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-BL after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-BL
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[09:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
[09:25] <PE2BZ> !flights
[09:25] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03TT7F5 10(5540), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[09:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Anyone about?
[09:49] <AndyEsser> mayhaps
[09:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> Gosh, life :-)
[09:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> I haven't been here for a LONG long time...
[09:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> Can you tell me, who does admin on HABHUB nowadays please?
[09:57] <AndyEsser> a number of people
[09:57] <AndyEsser> not sure of the full list, but believe Upu is one
[09:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> Is he about do you know?
[09:59] <Steve_G0TDJ> I notice his website is down for maintenence
[10:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> adamgreig, is often about as well
[10:01] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Geoff
[10:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> I've been asked to do a couple of launches on Sunday. Has anything changed in three years?
[10:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not really
[10:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> few more little addions to the map system but nothing major
[10:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> Good stuff. I have a couple of trackers made up. Testing this afternoon.
[10:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> sound good, provided the wind sttles down!
[10:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> They are going to be Picos launched from Herstmonceux at around 15:00BST
[10:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> One intended to float, the other up and down
[10:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Tuesday isn't so bad then down this way at last!
[10:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> I did a prediction and it showed them going straight for the channel. I hope it stays like that.
[10:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> Launches next Sunday
[10:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh right why did I thunk tuesday not sure!
[10:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> :-) No worries
[10:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hopefully, they'll be adequate trackers online. I'm not sure if we'll even get a rig and antenna together LOL All a bit last minute dot com
[10:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure I'll be around, bit haphazard at the moment
[10:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, tell me about it! Busy busy
[10:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> As long as the kids get to see them moving on the map for a while, that will be OK. Anything else is a bonus.
[10:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[10:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> It's for the Sputnik anniversary so they want the payloads to look like the satellite. I keep telling them, Weight Weight!
[10:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK I have to go but thanks for the quick chat. I'll get the admin done once I've tested the payloads for telemetry output later.
[10:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers Geoff and Andy
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS2 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS2
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[10:33] <_Jordan> Good Morning HABists!
[10:36] <Kryczek> _Jordan: who are you calling HABists?! I shall call you a HABist too!!
[10:36] <Kryczek> (high five :D )
[10:37] <_Jordan> *High fives back* :P
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[10:58] <fsphil> habistish
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[11:12] <daveake> habbict
[11:13] <daveake> oh wait ... habitué
[11:14] Action: daveake puts away thesaurus
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[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOTS-GR after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOTS-GR
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ7ACP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
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[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[13:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MFOI1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MFOI1
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[13:44] <_Jordan> Can anyone link me to the ground plane antenna construction manual? Can't seem to find it...
[13:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Sq7oip_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sq7oip_chase
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[13:46] <gonzo_> I's suggest that it is almost too simple not to require one
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[13:47] <craag> !wiki payload+antenna
[13:47] <_Jordan> Its more of a backup, I understand its a straight forward process. It may or may not neccasarily be for me :)
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03payload_antenna (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:payload_antenna
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi?s[]=payload&amp;s[]=antenna
[13:48] <_Jordan> Thanks craag!
[13:48] <gonzo_> it is a piece of 16.5mm wire soldered to the coax centre. (Include ant bared centre, that is centre that does not have the braid covering it, in the 16.5cm)
[13:48] <_Jordan> craag any chance you can approve my flight doc posted this morning on #habhub?
[13:48] <gonzo_> and 4 or more radials of the same length soldered to the braid
[13:48] <craag> _Jordan: Nope sorry - don't have that superpower.
[13:48] <gonzo_> centre element points down, radials out to the horizon
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[14:30] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 0333.48107,74.96215 at 0312999 meters about 0311 hours ago
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[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-9 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-9
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03U3B-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-10
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[15:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[17:12] <drohan> Theoretically could one use a http://www.radiometrix.com/content/tx2h to stream really leightweight / low FPS video from a HAB?
[17:12] <drohan> I'm curious if 64kbps could cut it
[17:13] <PE2BZ> 3 fps with 320x240 was common over single ISDN in the early days....
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[17:14] <drohan> http://www.radiometrix.com/content/tx2 This one claims 160 kbps
[17:14] <drohan> Though way less range
[17:14] <drohan> Yeah
[17:14] <drohan> I imagine you'd have to do major cuts to resolution
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[17:22] <PE2BZ> https://toolstud.io/photo/megapixel.php?width=320&height=240&compare=video&calculate=compressed
[17:23] <PE2BZ> so 90 % jpeg quality could give 8 kb per image. so max 8 fps in 64 kbps
[17:24] <PE2BZ> We had an ISDN line between 2 locations and had 320 x 240 running quite OK on a single ISDN line
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[17:28] <drohan> I see
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[17:31] <SpeedEvil> There are better ways. SD card with a hundred thousand pics. Compare image with SD card, and tell the ground the number.
[17:31] <daveake> lol
[17:32] <daveake> Downlink HAB position and orientation into Google Earth
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[19:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HG8LXL after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HG8LXL
[19:41] <Babs> Evening everyone - I've been investigating low power mode on the ublox. My tracker code which has been used successfully a few times works on the basis of switching off all of the NMEA sentences that the ublox spits out and then just polling the unit when i want the GPS data
[19:42] <Babs> all works fine, until i then hit it with a UBX command to switch it to low power mode, at which point I get a few standard responses, then the serial buffer on the atmega fills up with all kinds of nonsense that is being output from the ublox
[19:42] <Babs> nb. it doesn't necessarily have lock at this point, and I know that historically this has caused problems
[19:43] <Babs> its a ublox m8c, so I don't know whether the problem still persists of the unit behaving strangely when it switches to low power mode without a lock
[19:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
[19:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V3
[19:44] <Babs> Reference article, but only details to ublox6 https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox_psm
[19:44] <Babs> thanks
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[20:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[20:32] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Hi Babs, did you have any luck with the SD card images ?
[20:38] <Babs> Hi Geoff - yes, got them, there are about 40 in the eclipse sequence
[20:39] <Babs> I passed it to a guy I know at Framestore to see whether he can interpolate them to get a smooth-ish timelapse
[20:39] <Babs> but he has a new baby, so may be a while
[20:40] <Babs> because I was late on the launch, it was only at about 12km when the eclipse went by, not as high as i was aiming for though
[20:48] <Maxell> daveake: hi, I set everything for the MALVERNL with EnableHabitat=Y, and it outputted "Uploaded listener RevSpace_LoRa position 52.058653,4.230402". However I do not see myself on the map...
[20:49] <Maxell> Decoding works - checked this with PE2BZ yesterday... However habitat uploading I have not yet seen. SSD uploading works.
[20:49] <Maxell> SSDV
[20:54] <Maxell> Ok fixed... I changed some things in the "Antenna=" field
[20:55] <Maxell> Less & and + and :
[20:56] <Maxell> All ready for the first HABbing from my new apperment :)
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[21:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03317_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=317_chase
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[21:22] <TT7> Babs: I've written about using power save modes on ublox m8q on my tracker in this blog http://tt7hab.blogspot.cz/2017/06/the-low-power-setup.html
[21:22] <TT7> I usually use the Backup mode to save the most power
[21:23] <TT7> there's also a link to the actual code on github in the blog
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[21:39] <Babs> Thanks TT7, that's very helpful and I understand it. One last question - how do you know what protocol number your UBX chip is running off? Is there a UBX message for it?
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[21:44] <TT7> if you poll UBX-MON-VER (0x0A 0x04) it will return the version
[21:45] <TT7> details about the message are in https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/products/documents/u-blox8-M8_ReceiverDescrProtSpec_(UBX-13003221)_Public.pdf
[21:46] <TT7> in my library it's done by UBLOX_get_version function
[21:51] <Babs> Great thanks - v interesting
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[21:51] <Babs> your project is brilliantly documented btw
[21:51] <TT7> thanks
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[23:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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