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[07:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HG8LXL after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HG8LXL
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[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JORIS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JORIS
[08:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[08:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Nikkiloeffler7_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Nikkiloeffler7_chase
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[10:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Infinity2 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Infinity2
[10:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS5
[10:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK7DMT-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK7DMT-10
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[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TT7F5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TT7F5
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:46] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:46] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(12.48107,-27.03785) at 0313999 meters about 03an hour ago
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[12:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MOLLY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MOLLY
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[12:35] <PE2BZ> !payload molly
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:36] <PE2BZ> !flights
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Dixon261 10(9a6c), 03Infinity2-Flight 10(e465), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[12:36] <PE2BZ> !payload 9a6c
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03SITS2 10(9a6c) 03$$SITS2 - 03PITS Test - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK7DMT-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK7DMT-8
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03moving _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=moving%20_chase
[12:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03moving_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=moving_chase
[12:55] <PE2BZ> daveake is 433.700 correct for MFOI1 ?
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[13:06] <daveake> Yes
[13:07] <daveake> It's in the 10% max duty cycle part (and my tx is about 5%). Quieter there, over this part of the UK anyway
[13:07] <PE2BZ> rgr rgr
[13:08] <PE2BZ> It´s clean over here also :-)
[13:08] <daveake> :)
[13:09] <daveake> http://www.daveakerman.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/RSSI_Over_Frequency-768x405.png
[13:10] <PE2BZ> Some time I am going to fly an Airspy Mini with IQ recorder....
[13:11] <PE2BZ> Centered at 403 MHz and @ abt 10 km height when the radiosondes in the EU are taking off...
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[13:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-9 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-9
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[13:20] <TT7> hi everyone
[13:20] <TT7> I intend to launch another superpressure balloon tomorrow morning from the Czech Republic
[13:21] <TT7> this one transmits APRS, RTTY and SSDV
[13:22] <TT7> there may be some delay on the launch, because the tracker is solar and supercap powered and the prediction promises some clouds
[13:24] <TT7> after the last balloon failing fairly early into the flight, I am testing a slightly different shape this time
[13:24] <gonzo_> !dial molly
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:24] <gonzo_> !dial MOLLY
[13:24] <PE2BZ> !payload 9a6c
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03SITS2 10(9a6c) 03$$SITS2 - 03PITS Test - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[13:25] <gonzo_> !flights
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Current flights: 03Dixon261 10(9a6c), 03Infinity2-Flight 10(e465), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[13:25] <TT7> some more details for anyone interested are in the blog again https://tt7hab.blogspot.cz/2017/09/the-tt7f5-flight.html
[13:27] <PE2BZ> molly ´s payload doc says 434.650 300 bd 600 shift
[13:27] <Laurenceb> !whereis DL7AD-12
[13:27] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03DL7AD-12 was over 03Ust-Kulomsky District, Komi Republic, Russia 10(61.89213,55.29381) at 0311746 meters about 035 days ago
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[13:33] <PE2BZ> gonzo_ molly is at 434.650 indeed
[13:34] <g8fjg> PE2BZ Ben .650 is worse than .250 here //I can just see the space tones
[13:34] <PE2BZ> That´s bad... Over here, it´s clean !
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[13:35] <g8fjg> that makes a change for you
[13:36] <PE2BZ> slow ascent and rising :-) first Red
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[13:40] <g8fjg> high and low antennas ..must be quite local to me https://i.imgur.com/7ITGf1m.jpg
[13:40] <PE2BZ> Ugly !
[13:41] <g8fjg> noisy
[13:42] <PE2BZ> that one is shifted up 25 kHz over the Northsea... https://imgur.com/a/naiEq
[13:45] <g8fjg> Pity its not called LOLLY!! $$LOLLY20513:44:43,43.47518,
[13:48] <PE2BZ> No, it was sheep, so it has to be Dolly ;-)
[13:49] <g8fjg> LOL or $$ OLLY $$MILLY $$LLLY $$POLLY had them all and more ...just lovve 300bd and QRM
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[13:53] <gonzo_> PE2BZ, cheers
[13:53] <PE2BZ> First green :-)
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[13:57] <gonzo_> not even a sniff here
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[14:00] <PE2BZ> Airspy mini, 8 elements beam, 3 MSPS and decimation 64, giving 37,5 kHz. That´s what it takes over here. And on the Icom 7000 with V-2000 not a single green sofar.
[14:02] <prog> amazing
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[14:04] <PE2BZ> No bearing and distance when green, is that because of no flight doc ?
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[14:05] <g8fjg> router crash
[14:06] <PE2BZ> The internet is for ....
[14:06] <g8fjg> got a green with more filtering than News at a Trump rally
[14:06] <PE2BZ> :-)))
[14:06] <g8fjg> wasting my time
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[14:10] <garymortimer> Afternoon all, what frequency is molly on, I have forgotten the how
[14:12] <garymortimer> !flights
[14:12] <SpacenearUS> 03garymortimer: Current flights: 03Dixon261 10(9a6c), 03Infinity2-Flight 10(e465), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[14:13] <garymortimer> !payloads Dixon261
[14:13] <SpacenearUS> 03garymortimer: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:14] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> What are the settings for Molly ???
[14:14] <garymortimer> !payloads Molly
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> 03garymortimer: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:16] <gonzo_> 434.650 I was told.
[14:17] <garymortimer> I can't see it on teh Scunthorpe SDR
[14:27] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> so far nothing on 434.650 here
[14:29] <PE2BZ> It´s strange....
[14:30] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> Hoi Ben , you had him ?
[14:30] <garymortimer> I see it now
[14:30] <garymortimer> 434.650
[14:30] <PE2BZ> I still have greens every now and then
[14:31] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> great :)
[14:31] <PE2BZ> But that´s on the yagi vertical, fixed at 290 degrees
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[14:34] <gonzo_> vertical pol?
[14:34] <PE2BZ> yes
[14:34] <gonzo_> a hab specific one then
[14:34] <PE2BZ> What do you mean with that ?
[14:35] <gonzo_> set up just for HAB reception? Or do you use it for FM ham stuff?
[14:35] <PE2BZ> My antenna ? Specific for HAB and radio weathersondes. Has to be mounted to the rotator, instead of the vertical logper
[14:37] <gonzo_> I asked, because most hams have yagi's horizontal pol, unless they have special need for vertical
[14:38] <PE2BZ> I am the exception to the rule. I need a yagi to point either to the signal or 90 degrees to the signal which is disturbing my wanted signal.
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[14:39] <gonzo_> I have a crossed yagi, switched for H and V. Though that was intended to be RCH/LHC, for satellite. But I could not get the phasing to work, so gave up and just went for H/V
[14:40] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> I use Diamond 10elem. vertical , maybe i should have it horizontal then to hear something...
[14:41] <PE2BZ> No, almost all hab antennas are vertical
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[14:44] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> okay :)
[14:45] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> Then its just because i have it standing very low !
[14:45] <PE2BZ> Lower as 13 m asl ?
[14:46] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> 1st floor , 4 store flat
[14:47] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> on the balcony
[14:47] <PE2BZ> elevation is only 1.4 degrees so that won´t help either.
[14:48] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> See at Colijnsplaat an "Joris" standing on the map... guess he build a new one :)
[14:48] <gonzo_> at 50bd, a 10mW HAB should be decodable right to, and sometiomes just over the horizon
[14:48] <gonzo_> I have probelms with my system at the mo, and it is deaf
[14:49] <gonzo_> so I can't see it at all
[14:49] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> Yeah here weather is poor.. rain and very dark ! I also hear lightning in the USB signal
[14:49] <gonzo_> (also I am in a valley, and the local horizon is high. So I need the green ring for anything to the north)
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[14:50] <gonzo_> nice, never heard lightening at UHF!
[14:50] <PE2BZ> I see. Hope you can fix it :-)
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[14:50] <PE2BZ> I ´m afk...
[14:51] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> you hear it clicking or should i say cracking it in the USB signal..
[14:51] <PD3ADN_Arno_NL> Later Ben !
[14:51] <gonzo_> Just needs more gain. Changed it all around recently and there is far more cable/switching losses than befor. And the LNA gain isn't enough to overcome it
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[15:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
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[15:35] <Laurenceb> anyone here encountered the cancer of office365?
[15:35] Action: Laurenceb is trying to bypass it using smtp.office365.com
[15:36] <Laurenceb> but no luck so far
[15:36] <Laurenceb> just a way to get detailed diagnostic info out of thunderbird would help...
[15:38] <mattbrejza> the last office i installed (myself) was 2003...
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[15:41] <Laurenceb> office 365 is javascript online mess
[15:41] <Laurenceb> apparently there is an smtp server to bypass it
[15:42] <Laurenceb> but I caqn't make it work :(
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[15:53] <Kryczek> samy^: oh hey! Small world :) Next project "up in the air" ?
[16:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DO2EIM-1 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
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[16:51] <BJM> hey there
[16:52] <BJM> I'm a teacher and have a student here that we're working on a balloon project together
[16:52] <BJM> we have the balloon, the arduino with sensors, the helium, the parachute, cameras, and a nice battery
[16:52] <BJM> what we don't have solved is the way to track and recover the balloon
[16:53] <BJM> we have been looking at GPS devices.. but they require a subscription and many seem to rely on cell phone coverage areas
[16:53] <BJM> but we are in a remote part of the US
[16:53] <BJM> and cell phone coverage is spotty at best
[16:53] <BJM> is there a pretty easy way to do this with a single device that you can buy, that just uses GPS satellites rather than cellphone plans?
[16:53] <BJM> we don't have a lot of money of course but we do have some
[16:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> there is some comersial alternatives, like tracksoar and habduino
[16:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=57
[16:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YL3GBC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YL3GBC_chase
[16:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> https://www.tracksoar.com/shop/
[16:55] <BJM> cool we will check those out
[16:55] <Mike-SA6BSS> ad a couple of sdr radios for recevin.
[16:56] <BJM> it seems like the whole radio transmit/receiver process is a bit over our heads
[16:56] <Mike-SA6BSS> cheap $20 each and some antennas for the car chsing the balloo
[16:57] <BJM> ideally we would be able to just have a blip on an app or something showing us where the thing lands so we could track it down
[16:57] <BJM> realtime tracking etc not a high priority
[16:57] <BJM> we just want to recover the thing
[16:58] <BJM> but I mean, if we HAVE to do the radio process, I guess we can learn it together and make it work, it's just that we don't get much time together to work on this project
[16:58] <BJM> we started this over 6 months ago, had the summer vacation inbetween, we were hoping to launch by end of school year
[16:59] <BJM> and now we want to get it flying before it gets too cold and while the winds might actually keep it inland
[17:00] <Mike-SA6BSS> there is aprs but that requiers ham radio licence and you would still have to rx to get the final location as the aprs network would probably just track down to a couple of km before landning
[17:01] <BJM> so, are you saying that really, there is no way to do this properly without using a radio tx/rx system? Nothing like a GPS tracker you just put in your payload and you can find it when it lands?
[17:01] <BJM> we were originally thinking something like 'find my iphone' but we didn't want to send an active phone into sub-orbit
[17:01] <BJM> and also it relies on cell service
[17:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> there is realy just three options, sending gps location over radio - rtty / aprs / lora and do the rx yourself
[17:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> use at gps posstioning service thats quite expensive
[17:03] <Mike-SA6BSS> or relay on cellphone service
[17:03] <BJM> okay
[17:03] <BJM> well our flight computer is arduino based
[17:03] <BJM> so we have a bit of practice using that
[17:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> but hang on thre is more people then me around some other might have an idea
[17:04] <BJM> we probably can figure out the habdino.... I just don't know about rx/tx I'm not a radio guy
[17:04] <BJM> ok stay on the # and check in in a little bit I'm multitasking
[17:04] <BJM> thank you for your help!
[17:04] <BJM> I'll be idling
[17:05] <Mike-SA6BSS> np, yeah hang in the channel and some more will hopefully give you more guidence
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[17:28] <mfa298> BJM: radio trackers are generally considered the best solution, for the US APRS might be the better solution (but as noted you'll need someone with a HAM license)
[17:28] <mfa298> The only other option some have had success with is SPOT trackers - but they don't include altitude and don't always work
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[18:06] <BJM> mfa298: Thanks. I'll look into both those. Any idea which 'SPOT' tracker device might be worth looking at, or is it a protocol?
[18:07] <lz1dev> SPOT is satellite tracker/messenger
[18:21] <PE2BZ> !flights
[18:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Dixon261 10(9a6c), 03Infinity2-Flight 10(e465), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[18:25] <bertrik> BJM: are you in an area with reasonable coverage by TheThingsNetwork?
[18:26] <bertrik> http://ttnmapper.org/ shows the current coverage, it's a free LoRaWAN network
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[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3JLF-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3JLF-11
[19:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03titus_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=titus_chase
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[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MIKEL-1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-1
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[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MIKEL-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-2
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[19:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PicoChu - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PicoChu
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[19:36] <michal_f_mob> Ping
[19:38] <michal_f_mob> Sorry, just testing
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[19:40] <drohan> Pong :]
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[21:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03love_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=love_chase
[21:22] <drohan> If I have a MTX2 for radio transmissions, is there a commonly used pin-to-SMA-female adapter that people use?
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[22:09] <hyde00001> drohan - if you are still around. A PCB edge connector works. Something like this: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/sma-connectors/8857532/
[22:10] <drohan> Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
[22:10] <hyde00001> Or on the Uputronics store (which has many many things you need...) https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=79
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[22:30] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[22:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(14.48107,-25.03785) at 0313999 meters about 034 hours ago
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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