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[03:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03shar_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=shar_chase
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[07:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[08:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Infinity2 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Infinity2
[09:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS5
[09:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS2 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS2
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[10:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS11
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SR0FLY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SR0FLY
[10:33] <Mike-SA6BSS> !dial sr0fly
[10:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Mike-SA6BSS: 03SR0FLY is over APRS. 144.8Mhz EU/Russia/Africa, 144.39Mhz USA, 144.64Mhz China
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC6
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[10:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MOLLY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MOLLY
[10:48] <Laurenceb_> !whereis DL7AD-12
[10:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03DL7AD-12 was over 03Ust-Kulomsky District, Komi Republic, Russia 10(61.89213,55.29381) at 0311746 meters about 033 days ago
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MFOI1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MFOI1
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:40] <Rebounder>
[11:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[11:54] <PE2BZ> !flights
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Dixon261 10(9a6c), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[11:55] <PE2BZ> !dial 9a6c
[11:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03SITS2 10(9a6c): none
[11:57] <g8fjg> Ben should be on .250 nearly all sea path to you,, but .250 makes it fairly hopeless here
[11:58] <PE2BZ> tnx Ron, no RX for SIS5 since 8 minutes now ?
[11:59] <g8fjg> didn't notice that :-( nice dietance for me at 630k
[12:03] <g8fjg> I can usually "see" GB3ANG at 600k
[12:04] <daveake> PE2BZ: If I did a LoRa flight, with 62kHz bandwidth, where in the 434 spectrum could that work for you ?
[12:05] <daveake> I know what's best to use for here, but I might want to send a floater your way ....
[12:06] <PE2BZ> gm daveake 434.375 is a clear frequency with no local TX. Weekend flight or weekday ?
[12:06] <daveake> Depends on the weather, so I don't know
[12:07] <daveake> Remember it'd be e.g. 434.344 - 434.406MHz
[12:07] <daveake> I want to do an SSDV repeater network so I need some bandwidth
[12:08] <daveake> i.e. an SSDV flight with 1 or more airborne repeaters
[12:09] <PE2BZ> Nice idea !
[12:09] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/bY88W
[12:09] <PE2BZ> That´s my current spectrum at 27 m ASL omnidirectional
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[12:11] <daveake> Wow, I can see why you're concerned about frequency choice !
[12:11] <daveake> I could show you here but it's pretty much a blue rectangle :)
[12:11] <daveake> Yeah 27m is probably part of the problem
[12:11] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/0xfGP
[12:12] <PE2BZ> Local with 10 elements vertical @ 13 m asl pointing 270 degrees (to UK that means)
[12:12] <daveake> righto
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[12:13] <PE2BZ> Was never able to receive any of your LoRa payloads @ 27 m asl. Completely overloaded RX I assume. All RX over there has it´s own bandpass or notch filter :-)
[12:14] <PE2BZ> But at home it´s all ok. And we have PB0AHX, PE1ANS and PD1JO also QRV on LoRa modes
[12:14] <daveake> Yes I imagine it would be overloaded!
[12:15] <daveake> Also, can be worth trying another LoRa module - the 868 one in my main gateway turned out to be rather deaf
[12:16] <daveake> I blamed it on the attic aerial till I noticed I was getting a lot of failed packets from a local (in my office) transmitter in one LoRa mode
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[12:17] <PE2BZ> I exchanged the pits board between home and qrl but with no luck. And now I am awaiting a new lora module because adding a splitter between Icom TX and Lora module and not removing the microphone from the Icom TX is asking for trouble,,,
[12:18] <PE2BZ> It was only 50 watts .... but the splitter is all OK ;-)
[12:20] <daveake> hah!
[12:21] <PE2BZ> But in the mean time two X-50 ´s where added. So now the Icom has it´s own antenna...
[12:22] <g8fjg> PE2BZ Ben I think its on 434.250.300 dial for 1.2khz centre
[12:23] <PE2BZ> I still wanted to drop you a question about the telemetry / SSDV packets setting in the pisky.txt . Do you have time for that ?
[12:23] <PE2BZ> g8fjg my Crane drive is ready with lunch. So S5 telemetry at that qrg now...
[12:24] <g8fjg> :-((
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[12:24] <PE2BZ> SITS2 has to rise another 6 or 7 km
[12:25] <g8fjg> if it were 50baud i could decode now
[12:25] <PE2BZ> If I did read right from next week they will start flying on 50 bd :-)
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[12:30] <g8fjg> green
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[12:31] <PE2BZ> Nice !
[12:39] <_Jordan> Starting up the bd rate change next week, reason is i don't want to complicate things on the field :)
[12:43] <g8fjg> and it decends
[12:44] <PE2BZ> _Jordan I understand :-) In this case, distance had been the issue for me. I am just 12 km out of the blue line now...
[12:47] <PE2BZ> daveake I still wanted to drop you a question about the telemetry / SSDV packets setting in the pisky.txt . Do you have time for that ?
[12:47] <g8fjg> could land on the Glenlivet distillery :-))
[12:49] <daveake> go on
[12:52] <PE2BZ> I had my Pi Zero flight (with the lens cap covered...) but after the flight I noticed there where abt 4000 image packet but more as 2000 telemetry packets which with ¨LORA_image_packets_0=30 ¨ was not expected. So I did run the tracker on my Pi at home, and indeed every now and then the tracker switches to 1 telemetry and 1 image packet. Do you have any idea why that would happen ? The Pi at home was updated with git pull befor
[12:52] <PE2BZ> e testing.
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[12:56] <g8fjg> afk
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS12
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[13:08] <daveake> PE2BZ: 1:1 happens at low altitudes (default is below 1500m iirc) so you get more telemetry as it comes in to land
[13:10] <daveake> See http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2156
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[13:19] <PE2BZ> daveake noticed and did read that info. There is a however, however ;-) I have not added the GPS module to the Pi Zero (yet) because it´s travelling piggybacked with an RTTY transmitter with GPS. So the Pi Zero had no clue about its height. So I did set the level to 0 for ¨high¨ but that did not cover that problem, setting it to -1 did and at home it did follow the ¨Lora_image packets setting.
[13:20] <daveake> OK so the code must test for alt > whatever you set
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Indeed
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[13:23] <PE2BZ> the home Pi is carrying the GPS at the moment. High=0 is set, GPS height is reported as 12 m but still
[13:23] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 10 of 141
[13:23] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PE2BZ_LoRa,11,13:22:47,51.99148,4.19890,00000,0,0,12,47.8,5.0,10.500*7097
[13:23] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 11 of 141
[13:23] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PE2BZ_LoRa,12,13:22:50,51.99148,4.19889,00000,0,0,12,47.8,3.3,7.000*D7F4
[13:23] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 12 of 141
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[13:25] <PE2BZ> And then from packet 31 on:
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 31 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PE2BZ_LoRa,21,13:23:31,51.99148,4.19887,00000,0,0,12,47.8,3.3,7.000*16B0
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 32 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: $$PE2BZ_LoRa,22,13:23:33,51.99148,4.19887,00000,0,0,12,47.8,3.3,7.000*383C
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 33 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 34 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 35 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 36 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 37 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 38 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 39 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 40 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 41 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 42 of 141
[13:25] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 43 of 141
[13:26] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 44 of 141
[13:26] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 45 of 141
[13:26] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 46 of 141
[13:26] <PE2BZ> LORA1: SSDV image 1 packet 47 of 141
[13:26] <PE2BZ> Sorry for the spam :-)
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[13:30] <daveake> Your reported GPS alt is zero, not 12
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-9 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-9
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[13:34] <PE2BZ> That´s a bad mistake... sorry. And indeed when the GPS goes to 00003 all works as expected. So that leaves me with only one ¨problem¨ that without GPS the altitude value is always zero so I have to find a way to tell the tracker that even with 0 meter height I still want it to follow the normal setting and not send extra telemetry. Would that be difficult ?
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[13:38] <daveake> edit lora.c, change the test, run make
[13:46] <PE2BZ> do I need GPS for all calculations and decicions made about the uplinktimetosendonthischannel and so on ?
[13:47] <PE2BZ> I notice int the lora.c that GPS is used for much more then altitude decicions
[13:47] <daveake> You're not using those things
[13:48] <PE2BZ> Pfeeewww
[13:48] <daveake> Those are used if you set the tracker to listen for an uplink periodically
[13:51] <PE2BZ> I promise I won´t
[13:51] <PE2BZ> MaxImagePackets = ((GPS->Altitude > Config.SSDVHigh)
[13:52] <PE2BZ> this is the part I am looking for ?
[13:52] <daveake> yup
[13:52] <PE2BZ> and simply replace > by >= ?
[13:53] <daveake> yup. Or just comment out the line
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[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0OFM-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OFM-11
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[14:38] <The> Whatup Yo!
[14:41] <fsphil> ah, you just missed Yo
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[14:44] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(12.93941,-29.37119) at 0313999 meters about 033 hours ago
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[14:53] <PE2BZ> daveake MaxImagePackets = ((GPS->Altitude >= Config.SSDVHigh) || (Config.Channels[Channel].BaudRate > 2000)) ? Config.Channels[Channel].ImagePackets : 1;
[14:53] <PE2BZ>
[14:53] <PE2BZ> that works :-)
[14:53] <daveake> cool
[14:53] <PE2BZ> commenting out the line only gives telemetry packets and no SSDV at all
[14:54] <PE2BZ> tnx for your input !
[14:54] <daveake> Or ...
[14:54] <daveake> MaxImagePackets = Config.Channels[Channel].ImagePackets
[14:55] <daveake> Anyhoo, glad it's doing what you want
[14:55] <PE2BZ> Also possible. Now start the Pi Zero Wifi and do the same trick :-)
[14:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3DDW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3DDW-11
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[16:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MIKEL-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-1
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[16:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MalvernL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MalvernL
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[16:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MalvernR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MalvernR
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3JLF - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3JLF
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030797037001_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0797037001_chase
[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MIKEL-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-2
[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[17:32] <Grado> anyone here from UK heard of Cranfield Uni? how is it? is it worth getting an MSc there? Cannot find much about it as it's a postgraduate school only, but heard it's supposed to be great in aerospace/astronautics engineering and very specialised?
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[18:19] <infinity> Hello, I posted flight ID on #habhub a few hours ago to approve Infinity2-Flight but not approved yet. How long should it take?
[18:20] <PE2BZ> Hard to tell. Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours. Did you paste the ID and asked for approval ?
[18:21] <lz1dev> it might take <insert your nick name here>
[18:21] <PE2BZ> If not explicitly asked they could think you are testing if you have parsed succesfully
[18:21] <PE2BZ> lz1dev took me some time :-))
[18:25] <PE2BZ> such a wonderful system ;-)
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[18:25] <PE2BZ> infinity I asked for your flight to have it approved and it succeeded !
[18:26] <infinity> Yes approved!! Thanks everyone :-)
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[18:43] <PE2BZ> infinity do you go for burst or a floater ?
[18:44] <PE2BZ> Or did you intend to leave this page....
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[18:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NERDPI - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NERDPI
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[20:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5HGT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5HGT-11
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