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[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA4RKU-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA4RKU-11
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[08:31] <AndyEsser> lol, Starchaser announced a launch
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[08:42] <AndyEsser> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haversine_formula#The_haversine_formula
[08:42] <AndyEsser> hav(theta) = sin^2(theta/2)
[08:42] <AndyEsser> would you say that's the same as
[08:42] <AndyEsser> (sin(theta/2))^2?
[08:42] <AndyEsser> any mathematicians here
[08:53] <fsphil> there used to be, but they all got rounded up
[08:55] <daveake> floated away
[08:55] <AndyEsser> ha
[08:55] <AndyEsser> it's alright, found the answer
[08:55] <fsphil> they where causing too many divisions
[08:55] <AndyEsser> they are equivalent
[08:55] <AndyEsser> *sigh*
[08:56] <fsphil> haversine is a new one to me
[08:58] <PE2BZ> had not seen any sine of it
[08:59] <AndyEsser> we're basically using it to calculate the distance between a candidate and a place of work
[09:00] <Vaizki> are you delivering them via drones?
[09:00] <bertrik> and accounting for the earth's curvature?
[09:00] <daveake> Hold on, Earth is a sphere? :p
[09:01] <Haxxa> I have been reading and I can't seem to find a definite answer - if I want to maximise battery life in sleep mode for a battery powered device with a microcontroller should I disable brownout detection - some say absolutely not others say its fine. While reading some say the flash may get rekt with complete loss of bootloader while others say worst case senario is currupt eeprom?
[09:03] <AndyEsser> bertrik: I didn't write the code, I'm just reviewing it
[09:03] <AndyEsser> :P
[09:03] <AndyEsser> I think using great circle distance might be overkill when it's not aviation or shipping
[09:03] <AndyEsser> but hey ho
[09:03] <AndyEsser> :P
[09:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03falcon_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=falcon_chase
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[09:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ttntest1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ttntest1
[09:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOT-GR after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOT-GR
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[10:34] <daey> Haxxa: you want to disable it to save energy or to let it run even though the brownout detector would trigger?
[10:36] <Haxxa> daey, save energy
[10:37] <Haxxa> daey, I just learnt about external ic's available which I may use
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[10:40] <Haxxa> What is your thoughts?
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:27] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Gulf Of Mexico 10(21.48107,-97.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0311 hours ago
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[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:46] <daey> Haxxa: my initial thought would be, an external chip is likely going to draw more power.
[11:46] <daey> do you know how much power the brownout detector even consumes? maybe its totally negligable
[11:47] <daey> or can you disable it while during sleep? its unlikely that the voltage drops below the threshold during the sleeping phase
[11:47] <daey> s/while during/only during/
[11:48] <mattbrejza> is this for a HAB application? in which case i cant see the power consumption of the internal brownout detector being significant
[11:48] <mattbrejza> its only something you need to care about if you want to run for years, and when in sleep for >99.9% of the time
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[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS2
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[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS1
[12:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS3
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[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Unics_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Unics_chase
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[13:26] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyu_Mi69Tr0
[13:26] <SpeedEvil> Retrieval of Chlorophyll Fluorescence from Space - Christian Frankenberg
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[13:27] <SpeedEvil> (complex spectroscopy to measure induced fluorescance to measure plant cover)
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[13:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[13:44] <DB2TK> Hi
[13:44] <DB2TK> i have an rs41 turned into an rtty position transmitter
[13:45] <DB2TK> now i use dl-fldigi to covert it
[13:45] <DB2TK> i see the position
[13:45] <DB2TK> but how to send the data to nearspace map
[13:46] <DB2TK> and how my project could et into the flight list
[13:48] <daveake> Have a read of https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:documents
[13:50] <daveake> Also https://ukhas.org.uk/communication:protocol
[13:52] <DB2TK> yes found
[13:52] <DB2TK> i created one
[13:52] <daveake> So is your payload on the map ?
[13:53] <DB2TK> no not yet
[13:53] <daveake> Have you made a payload document ?
[13:54] <DB2TK> yes some minutes ago
[13:54] <daveake> OK and what's the payload ID ?
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[13:56] <DB2TK> sry. i do not copy the displayed id number
[13:57] <DB2TK> payload name DL0PTB-11
[13:58] <daveake> [2017-09-05 13:33:09,841] DEBUG habitat.parser MainThread: No configuration doc for 'DL0PTB' found
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[13:59] <daveake> You didn't fill in the Parser configuration section in the payload doc
[14:01] <daveake> So the system does not know the meaning of each field in your uploaded messages
[14:01] <DB2TK> ahh ok
[14:11] <DB2TK> $$<callsign>,<frame>,<hhmmss>,<latitude>,<longitude>,<height>,<radio chip temperature (°C)>,<battery voltage>,<used gps satellites>,<good gps datasets>,<bad gps datasets>,<gps fix>,<CRC>
[14:11] <DB2TK> thats my format but i have problems with the syntax in parser window
[14:11] <DB2TK> $CALLSIGN,frame,hhmmss,latitude,longitude,height,radio chip temperature,battery voltage,used gps satellites,good gps data sets,bad gps data sets,gpsfix*CHECKSUM\n
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[14:16] <DB2TK> ah now i have it !
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[14:21] <DB2TK> but it inst on the map yet
[14:22] <daveake> Looks like you're not uploading
[14:23] <daveake> See the logtail http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[14:23] <TIBS-OLDSKOOL> 13,8 wankersssss
[14:23] <TIBS-OLDSKOOL> lol
[14:23] Nick change: TIBS-OLDSKOOL -> TIBS01
[14:24] <DB2TK> in dl-fldigi the flight filed is empty and i colud not select dl0ptb
[14:24] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 is over 03Mexico 10(19.43941,-96.12119) at 0314110 meters
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[14:25] <daveake> DB2TK: That's for active flights, for which you need a flight document, and you don't have one
[14:26] <daveake> That all comes later; what you need now is a working payload document
[14:26] <daveake> Please have a read of https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:documents as I recommended earlier
[14:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[14:48] <DB2TK> in dl-fldigi the data inst green
[14:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL0PTB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0PTB
[14:49] <DB2TK> ah yes it was the sql
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[15:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[15:27] <DB2TK> thanks dave !!!
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[17:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DN1BUY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DN1BUY
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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