highaltitude.log.20170827

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[03:13] <K6sts> Help
[03:17] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[03:17] <Darkside> I need somebody!
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[04:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[05:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK3SB-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK3SB-5
[05:52] <thasti> yay :)
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[06:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI9TSS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI9TSS
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[06:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03OK7DMT-11 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK7DMT-11
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[07:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9ONO-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9ONO-9_chase
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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9F-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9F-11
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[08:27] <PE2BZ> !flights
[08:27] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03RSSI 868 10(ed30), 03HABKi_02 10(a91e), 03TT7F1 10(9e19), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[09:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right listening for RSSI looks lovely weather here but I don't think daveake has a camera onboard for this ?
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[09:12] <fsphil> looks like another flight about to go up with ssdv though: https://ssdv.habhub.org/HB9F-1
[09:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah yes
[09:23] <daveake> No SSDV this time
[09:23] <daveake> I will stream the launh tho
[09:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Guessed that might not be required!
[09:24] <daveake> No. And it's an AVR not a Pi
[09:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> HB9F looks about ready
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[09:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Daves stream is on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i77jnq-RrGo&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=mhulPfgV8idHCeOL-6
[09:41] <tweetBot> @daveake: Now streaming preparation and launch of RSSI HAB test flight #ukhas https://t.co/R2vwYByQyz
[09:42] <daveake> Quicker than I am :)
[09:42] <Darkside> voyeour mode on
[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SG-096_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SG-096_chase
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[09:48] <Darkside> daaaaave
[09:49] <PE2BZ> Where is the PTZ control ?
[09:50] <daveake> whaaaaaaat
[09:51] <PE2BZ> Yes ! PTZ works OK ;-)
[09:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Dave needs a little tracker attached to himself and then PTZ controlled by tracker!
[09:54] <Darkside> product placement!
[09:54] <Darkside> you shill!
[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSSI after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSSI
[09:54] Action: PE2BZ now imagines the camera following Daveake into the bathroom...
[09:56] <Darkside> haha
[09:56] <Darkside> more product placement
[09:56] <fsphil> ah nice day in nearly wales
[09:58] <daveake> PE2BZ: You're weird !
[09:58] <daveake> And yes Geoff-G8DHE good idea :)
[09:58] <PE2BZ> thanks for noticing :-)
[09:58] <fsphil> cat statue
[09:58] <fsphil> actually it's been 2 minutes and I haven't seen a cat, is something wrong? :)
[09:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> He's put it in the balloon perhaps for a ride ?
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[10:06] <fsphil> just a few stations in .nl today...
[10:06] <PE2BZ> That´s yesterdays news ;-)
[10:06] <tweetBot> @daveake: Live data from today's RSSI test flight here #ukhas - https://t.co/pQXiOYJbIX
[10:08] <fsphil> cooool
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[10:09] <daveake> wot's a notam lol
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[10:09] <daveake> sorry was wobbly don't have enough vertical tilt on the video head so head to lift the tripod
[10:09] <PE2BZ> Did they hijack your payload ? http://imgur.com/a/7dsrh
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[10:12] <Darkside> nice lack of wind
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[10:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> I alaways want a black marker pen at this point to draw a nice smiley face!
[10:16] <PE2BZ> It´s your monitor ;-)
[10:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[10:18] <daveake> oops forgot to put the chute inside the balloon, so now it's going to dangle instead
[10:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Presuambly it seals OK with the cord running out the mouth ?
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[10:21] <fsphil> another david?
[10:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9F-11_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9F-11_chase
[10:22] <Darkside> here we gooo
[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DAN_AND_NAV - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DAN_AND_NAV
[10:23] <Darkside> aand there it goes!
[10:23] <fsphil> freedom!
[10:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah no cat inside...
[10:24] <fsphil> heading for that hole in the clouds
[10:25] <PE2BZ> the minute before http://imgur.com/a/XcJYV
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[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF3EY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF3EY
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[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> How long does a scan of the freq. range take daveake ?
[10:31] <vk4tec_> Good map and dashboard
[10:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> just wondering if it would be viable to to request the ground stations to Tx on the least busy freq!
[10:32] <vk4tec_> Its spread spectrum
[10:32] <vk4tec_> Fast hopping
[10:33] <vk4tec_> Not understanding the RSSI - its kind of steady
[10:34] <vk4tec_> The ALT >
[10:34] <daveake> Geoff-G8DHE: 20 seconds
[10:34] <daveake> Spends 250ms on each frequency
[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup a bit long then to be a dynamic request!
[10:35] <vk4tec_> Looks like she is doing a loop and coming back at u
[10:36] <vk4tec_> 3k feet , RSSI -100 / -120
[10:36] <daveake> This is what I got when I did this on 434:
[10:36] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0ZsdHeau/image.png
[10:37] <vk4tec_> roger
[10:37] <daveake> And average across the band, vs altitude:
[10:37] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xMGPx2OF/image.png
[10:37] <vk4tec_> slow climb
[10:37] <Darkside> daveake: should try that here in australia
[10:37] <vk4tec_> interesting
[10:37] <Darkside> *flat line*
[10:37] <daveake> So the increased footprint is largely but not toally cancelled out by the extra distance from the transmissions
[10:37] <daveake> heh
[10:38] <vk4tec_> might get snagged on a F18 hornet and go to NZ
[10:38] <Darkside> hasn't happened yet!
[10:38] <Darkside> and we're, what... 44 launches up now?
[10:38] <Darkside> i think
[10:38] <fsphil> there's a good challange, launch in au and land in nz
[10:38] <vk4tec_> Where r u dark side
[10:38] <Darkside> vk4tec_: <- VK5QI
[10:38] <vk4tec_> roger
[10:39] <Darkside> fsphil: andy VK3YT has overflown NZ a few times..
[10:39] <vk4tec_> how does data get from LORA ground station to net ? mobile phone
[10:39] <Darkside> landing a bit harder :P
[10:39] <fsphil> tis :)
[10:39] <Darkside> also all of his payloads are pico so booring :(
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> LoRa HAB gateway feeds into Habhub
[10:40] <vk4tec_> thanks
[10:40] <Darkside> "life's too short for QRP" is a statement that applies in a few different fields
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://github.com/PiInTheSky/lora-gateway
[10:40] <fsphil> the interesting part of pico is mostly the payload construction
[10:40] <vk4tec_> Yeah but dave is currently opening ever garage door in UK
[10:41] <fsphil> it's a noise scan, he's not transmitting
[10:41] <daveake> Well I am on one frequency ofc
[10:41] <vk4tec_> roger
[10:42] <vk4tec_> oh - are you flying a rx and sending back RSSO
[10:42] <vk4tec_> RSSI
[10:43] <vk4tec_> 4k ++
[10:44] <fsphil> !track rssi
[10:44] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=rssi
[10:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2017_Flights/RSSI_20170827/
[10:45] <vk4tec_> <cool>
[10:46] <vk4tec_> this is 200 mW yeah ?
[10:46] <daveake> 25mW
[10:46] <vk4tec_> <ack>
[10:47] <PE2BZ> daveake the 434 rssi makes me think that there is not much ISM traffic in the UK in that band. 433.920 for remote control of light switches but no control for cranes and so on ?
[10:47] <PE2BZ> Geoff the pause button does not work ;-)
[10:47] <vk4tec_> It is very busy here in my country - very short and on different freq
[10:48] <Darkside> 915 MHz ISM band here, but meh, who uses that for this kind of stuff
[10:48] <Darkside> we have 20 MHz of spectrum on the 70cm band to play with :P
[10:48] <daveake> grrrr :)
[10:48] <Darkside> as we can actually use amateur radio stuff airborne, unlike the UK guys
[10:48] <vk4tec_> ok
[10:48] <vk4tec_> Got 433 modules here
[10:48] <Darkside> ok maybe less than 20 MHz, if you dont want to go pissing off any repeater operators
[10:49] <fsphil> 20 mhz spread spectrum :)
[10:49] <Darkside> hah
[10:49] <vk4tec_> one of the balloons here opened the SQL on a tunnel comms
[10:49] <Darkside> fsphil: acutally i think we have bandwidth restrictions that would preclude that
[10:49] <fsphil> I've had complaints about my HAB frequency, even though it caused no problems
[10:49] <Darkside> oh wait, maybe not
[10:50] <Darkside> but yeah, we try and keep most of our telemetry *out* of the 434 mhz ISM band to avoid issues
[10:50] <vk4tec_> Nice constant ascent
[10:50] <Darkside> though RTTY usually ends up there
[10:50] <fsphil> it's been a while since I've looked at the ofcom rules, but I think using the entire band would be fine. just rude :)
[10:51] <Darkside> i think our record is using about 2 MHz of spectrum at once
[10:51] <fsphil> the widest signal I've done so far is the ATV stuff
[10:51] <Darkside> on that flight in jan
[10:51] <fsphil> ~6mhz
[10:51] <vk4tec_> I asked the authorities and I was told as a ham i have right of way on 430 MHz - go for it
[10:51] <Darkside> flights*
[10:51] <daveake> 250kHz is max I've used
[10:52] <Darkside> i've love to try flying DVB-S at some point, that new narrowband stuff
[10:52] <fsphil> from a balloon I've not done more than 600hz :)
[10:52] <Darkside> but would need to check the link budgets to see if its worthwhile
[10:53] <fsphil> needs a PSK transmitter though
[10:53] <daveake> fsphil: About time you launched again :)
[10:53] <fsphil> yes it's well overdue
[10:53] <vk4tec_> 8PSK2000
[10:53] <Darkside> what we need is a small SSB TX module for use in Habbing...
[10:54] <daveake> I keep looking for another chance to aim a HAB at NI, but nothing yet
[10:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah beginning to see CRC errors on 869
[10:54] <vk4tec_> <ack>
[10:54] <Darkside> generating the baseband signa is doable enough, but transmitting it on 434 mhz in a small form factor is a bit harder
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[10:55] <fsphil> all of the I/Q modulators I've seen are quite power hungry
[10:55] <Darkside> yeah
[10:55] <fsphil> it would still be fun to try it on a normal ~2 hour flight
[10:55] <Darkside> could use pitx with a very very narrow filter on the output
[10:55] <vk4tec_> 6k feet >
[10:55] <fsphil> would that be hard to do?
[10:56] <Darkside> fsphil: depends where in the band you put it
[10:56] <Darkside> i could probably put it safely up in 440-450 mhz with a bandpass SAW filter
[10:56] <Darkside> it might leak a bit over 440-450, but at least its not goign to go out of the ham band
[10:56] <Darkside> i'd have to look at the spectrum and figure it out
[10:57] Action: fsphil needs a specan
[10:57] <Darkside> i've just borrowed david rowe's
[10:57] <Darkside> :P
[10:57] <vk4tec_> how is habhub so smart it knows where the balloon is going
[10:57] <Darkside> he hasn't been using it, so its sitting on my workbench
[10:57] <Darkside> vk4tec_: magic gremlins
[10:57] <fsphil> though I could just use the hackrf too
[10:57] <fsphil> python "import future"
[10:57] <Darkside> also wind models
[10:57] <vk4tec_> <ack>
[10:58] <Darkside> fsphil: that works too :P
[10:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> it runs the prediction software and plots the prediction
[10:58] <vk4tec_> trying to listen out for a weather balloon here in a few minutes
[10:58] <vk4tec_> from the nearby airport
[10:58] <Darkside> vk4tec_: should be up in ~20 min
[10:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> RSSI_201708271057
[10:58] <fsphil> I have to replace the amp on my hackrf. not looking forward to that, though it's just a little 6-pin sot package
[10:58] <vk4tec_> fiddly
[10:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> or rather http://predict.habhub.org
[10:59] <vk4tec_> have one here
[10:59] <vk4tec_> not blown it up yet
[10:59] <fsphil> I've no idea how it happened. it's the tx amp too
[10:59] <vk4tec_> it happens
[10:59] <fsphil> yeah. they seem quite suicidal
[11:00] <vk4tec_> how is the lat and lon getting back to habhub ?
[11:00] <vk4tec_> custom packets ?
[11:00] <fsphil> via the ground stations
[11:00] <daveake> lora receivers --> interwebz --> habhub
[11:00] <vk4tec_> ,ack>
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> we all feed the telemetry to Habhub
[11:00] <fsphil> you can see the raw data here: http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Distributed Listener working
[11:00] <vk4tec_> ta
[11:01] <vk4tec_> xml ?
[11:01] <fsphil> oh god no
[11:01] <daveake> hah
[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:beginners_guide_to_high_altitude_ballooning
[11:01] <fsphil> the payloads use a simple comma separated string
[11:01] <fsphil> the habhub servers use json
[11:02] <vk4tec_> nice
[11:02] <vk4tec_> cool CSV
[11:02] <fsphil> the habhub servers could be programmed to handle other kinds of telemetry, but the ukhas-style format has persisted. it just works well
[11:03] <vk4tec_> how often send back to the ground ?
[11:03] <fsphil> depends on the payload
[11:03] <vk4tec_> ok
[11:03] <vk4tec_> this is a pi zero yeah
[11:03] <daveake> This one is 20s of listening (250ms per frequency, 80 frequencies) then 3 txs of the same RSSI data, taking approx 10 seconds including gaps
[11:04] <daveake> no AVR
[11:04] <vk4tec_> ok it looked a but different
[11:04] <daveake> well mind is dunno if you mean someone else's
[11:04] <daveake> most payloads tx 100%
[11:04] <vk4tec_> ah ok - so this payload is scanning 800 mHz and sending back to HQ
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[11:04] <daveake> 865 to 890
[11:04] <vk4tec_> flying spec analyser
[11:05] <vk4tec_> is this for a test of ?
[11:05] <daveake> test of what the noise is up there
[11:05] <daveake> so I can choose somewhere quiet for uplinks
[11:05] <vk4tec_> <ack>
[11:05] <vk4tec_> ah
[11:05] <vk4tec_> do u have any recording on board ?
[11:06] <daveake> nope
[11:06] <daveake> we have what we need with the radio downlink
[11:06] <daveake> Cheap tracker, and I'lll have my data anyway, so won't matter if I don't recover it
[11:06] <vk4tec_> tru
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[11:09] <vk4tec_> anticipated altitude ?
[11:09] <daveake> 31km
[11:09] <vk4tec_> wow
[11:09] <daveake> that's an average sort of altitude
[11:09] <vk4tec_> gps work up there
[11:10] <daveake> this is a small balloon but also small payload
[11:10] <daveake> gps does but not every gps receiver does
[11:10] <vk4tec_> yep
[11:10] <fsphil> gps sats are 20200 km high, 30km isnt going to cause much trouble :)
[11:10] <vk4tec_> got adafruit here
[11:10] <daveake> lol quite
[11:11] <fsphil> all the problems we do see are down to software problems, or artifical limits
[11:11] <Darkside> did they fix the adafruit gps firmware issue?
[11:11] <vk4tec_> dunno
[11:11] <vk4tec_> seems to work for me
[11:12] <fsphil> have you had it at 30km yet? :)
[11:12] <vk4tec_> up high ?
[11:12] <vk4tec_> no
[11:12] <Darkside> i know they claimed it worked 'above 27km!' for a while, but it still didn't work above 29km or something
[11:12] <vk4tec_> in car
[11:12] <vk4tec_> ok
[11:12] <darsie> How about glonass or galileio?
[11:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Affects all see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinating_Committee_for_Multilateral_Export_Controls#Legacy
[11:14] <daveake> Geoff-G8DHE: Got any packets yet? You should kick in about now iirc
[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> No :-( Its started seeing CRC's at about normal for me 6Km but nothing since
[11:15] <daveake> Pleased to see my office receiver with dodgy wideband aerial in the loft is still working.
[11:15] <vk4tec_> airspy mini listening for wx baloon
[11:15] <daveake> I was getting quite a few CRC fails on that even with a local tracker ... turned out it had a dodgy lora module
[11:15] <daveake> So swapped it
[11:15] <vk4tec_> oh
[11:15] <Darkside> vk4tec_: shoudl be launched sometime in the next 5-10 min, you may not hear it for a little while after that
[11:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2017_Flights/RSSI_20170827/index.php?ind=8
[11:16] <vk4tec_> ta
[11:16] <vk4tec_> sounds like tinkle tinkle
[11:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> It seems to have been slowly degrading over time to be honest, not sure if its the change of aerial setup or the RFM module
[11:17] <daveake> ok. might be worth trying another module then
[11:17] <daveake> With this one, mode 3 was ok locally but crap during the flight
[11:17] <daveake> mode 2 was crap locally too!
[11:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> Well I'm thinking of putting an Rpi with module behind the aerial itself, rather than bringing the co-ax down as present
[11:18] <daveake> yes good plan
[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its just several days strenous work to bring the aerial all the way down.... :-(
[11:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Only did it last year for a major overhaul, but several bits haven't worked out as expected ..
[11:19] <daveake> :(
[11:21] <Darkside> vk4tec_: right, local sonde is on 401.5 MHz
[11:21] <Darkside> should be appearing on the map shortly
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:22] <Darkside> there we go :-)
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[11:29] <tweetBot> @nerdsville: My 868MHz LoRa lashup working well tracking @daveake RSSI flight - Pi, Wifi dongle & power pack up on a pole #ukhas& https://t.co/QPHKynC6le
[11:29] <g8fjg> 130odd crc fails first good decode :-) ..its bit qrmmy around .500 here
[11:31] <daveake> loft craptenna just about holding on
[11:31] <Darkside> should have done RX on 868 MHz, and downlink on 434 MHz :-)
[11:31] <daveake> My other gateway is on the clark mast but not needed to extend that yet
[11:32] <daveake> :) it's good enough
[11:32] <daveake> more powwer allowed too
[11:32] <daveake> 500mW actually but the lora modules won't do that
[11:33] <Darkside> hrm still having rpedictor issues with YPADSONDE
[11:33] <Darkside> the tracker doesn't like that i have the last 3 flights of data still on the map
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[11:34] <Darkside> needs a bit of a narrower time window to determine if it's passed burst yet
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[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:40] <g8fjg> here's my " rssi map"...dont see how I got 1 decode http://i.imgur.com/kzrHZzZ.png
[11:42] <fsphil> some nice pics coming in from https://ssdv.habhub.org/HB9F-1
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[11:59] <tweetBot> @daveake: 868MHz Yagi plus LoRa gateway atop a Clark mast for today's flight. #ukhas https://t.co/oqzhOxmpfd
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[12:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SHOGUN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SHOGUN_chase
[12:21] <g8fjg> throw away the 10 ele yagi... mast lna ....and stick a length of non specific length of wire in the N type ,,,and get decodes!!
[12:25] <daveake> hoho
[12:25] <daveake> Getting decodes even from my car here ... don't normally
[12:25] <daveake> not at this distance / direction anyway
[12:27] <g8fjg> I'll have to "build" another non specific antenna ..getting 75% decodes now...
[12:30] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-6
[12:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(12.48107,-137.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0310 hours ago
[12:35] <PE2BZ> g8fjg You are in a magic area ;-)
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[12:45] <g8fjg> sorry Ben was afk,,watching the F1.. the main antenna can see so many signals in Daves direction..the little stick works :-)
[12:49] <PE2BZ> Max out allready. I can stop watching :-(
[12:54] <g8fjg> he needs a better non specfic engine :-))
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[12:58] <PE2BZ> :-)
[13:01] <acid5> fuck f1
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[13:06] <HB9FUF> Hi there! Wondering, is there a way in the habhub tracker map to see what's the ground altitude? I have been trying https://www.daftlogic.com/sandbox-google-maps-find-altitude.htm side-by-side with the tracker to estimate ground altitude at payload location
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[13:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03by cycle _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=by%20cycle%20_chase
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[13:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> HB9FUF Use Google Earth HabHub will send the data direct to GE and then you have full facilities
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[13:46] <HB9FUF> Thanks G8DHE! I'll try that.
[13:47] <daveake> Blimey even easier than the last one :)
[13:53] <tweetBot> @daveake: Payload recovery even easier than the last one - on a verge on a quiet country lane! #ukhas https://t.co/cHxvA3LDIJ
[13:53] <fsphil> landed in a tree surgeon's yard?
[13:53] <daveake> hah
[13:54] <daveake> I could get used to recoveries like this
[13:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :)
[13:55] <daveake> Even my dashboard thing says it's landed so it must be true :)
[13:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I wouldn't use 869.5 again its got a great big signal sat on it ;-)
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[14:02] <SpeedEvil> hah
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[15:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6AZX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6AZX-12
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[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD9IJJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9IJJ-11
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[16:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[16:45] <GW7HPW> I just submitted a flight document for LoRaHAB2, tommorow, 11:00 ish, Newport
[16:46] <GW7HPW> I have sent a few test strings in, anyone available to OK it ?
[16:49] <PE2BZ> Hi, the admins are looking for these questions in #habhub
[16:49] <PE2BZ> Can you share the payload info ? So I can setup my RX :-)
[16:51] <GW7HPW> OK, I will ask there. Thanks. LoRa settings are on UKHAS.
[16:52] <PE2BZ> thanks !
[16:52] <GW7HPW> Coming your way perhaps, it should float, past the North of Netherlands.
[16:53] <PE2BZ> We have one new LoRa RX listener waiting for his first signals :-)
[16:55] <PE2BZ> Do the LoRa and RTTY alternate on 434.400 MHz ?
[16:55] <PE2BZ> Now you should paste your flightdoc string in #habhub
[16:56] <PE2BZ> So they know what you want to have approved
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[17:08] <stilldavid> https://youtu.be/H7UMv8uFP5k
[17:08] <stilldavid> are there too many spinny shots?
[17:15] <fsphil> wow
[17:17] <stilldavid> unfortunately only one camera stayed on the whole time
[17:17] <stilldavid> fortunately it was the one recording in 4k
[17:17] <stilldavid> (it still stopped due to full 64G memory card at around 95k feet)
[17:29] <PE2BZ> Can someone help me with Gateway settings for the GW7HPW payload ?
[17:29] <PE2BZ> LoRa Bandwidth 62.5Khz, Spreading factor 8, CodeRate 4:5, Optimisation off
[17:29] <PE2BZ> But what does this mean for explicit or implicit ?
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[18:10] <daveake> Could be either; if he didn't say then you need to ask him
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[18:26] <PE2BZ> GW7HPW can you add the payload info for implicit or explicit mode ? It´s not in the info @ ukhas group
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[18:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Arpita car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Arpita%20car_chase
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[19:24] <GW7HPW> @PE2BZ, not alternate exactly. At every transmision loop there is; get GPS fix, wait for incoming command, send LoRa, send RTTY, sleep.
[19:29] <GW7HPW> @PE2BZ, its explicit mode.
[19:29] <PE2BZ> thanks for the update ! have a good flight !
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[19:36] <GW7HPW> @PE2BZ, since the HAB payload will naturally vary in length, its not practical to send as an implicit (fixed length) packet.
[19:39] <bertrik> can I put more than one receiver in the "receivers" field of the payload telemetry document?
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[23:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SUNGZR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SUNGZR
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