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[02:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Amber_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Amber_chase
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[03:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS11
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[06:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TA2MUN-11 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2MUN-11
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[06:38] <PE2BZ> !whereis bss11
[06:38] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: 03BSS11 was over 03Qaasuitsup Municipality, Greenland 10(76.89583,-68.79167) at 0310200 meters about 0319 minutes ago
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[06:38] <PE2BZ> !track bss11
[06:38] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=bss11
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[08:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Martan_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Martan_chase
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[08:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILOT-BL after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOT-BL
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[08:40] <pb0ahx> !flights
[08:40] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[08:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL9OBM-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL9OBM-12
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7ACP-11 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
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[09:30] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[09:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03South Pacific Ocean 10(-7.51893,-167.03785) at 0313999 meters about 035 hours ago
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[10:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S17 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S17
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR
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[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z73 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z73
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z72 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z72
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z74 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z74
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[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z71 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z71
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[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:23] <jbayfield> !track BARC1
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> 03jbayfield: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
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[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC6 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC6
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[12:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-11
[12:27] <hyde00001> Anyone know how to configure payload/flight documents to correctly show eg LoRa details in the tracker calendar? I can't work out how to specify LoRa and (incorrect) RTTY details show up on in the tracker/calendar pane...
[12:29] <hyde00001> For example my MASA-02 flight shows my SH05 LoRa tracker with "Habitat default" RTTY details.
[12:29] <hyde00001> Presumably I'm just being thick when preparing payload and/or flight documents???
[12:34] <garymortimer> BARC just became very week
[12:34] <garymortimer> weak
[12:34] <garymortimer> from Scunthorpe
[12:36] <PE2BZ> what frequency is BARC on ?
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
[12:37] <PE2BZ> !dial barc1
[12:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC1 10(4240): 03434.2639 MHz
[12:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-9_chase
[12:41] <PE2BZ> !dial barc6
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC6 10(8940): none
[12:51] <Laurenceb> https://www.amostech.com/TechnicalPapers/2015/Optical_Systems/Duncan.pdf
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[13:06] <PE2BZ> !dial barc6
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC6 10(8940): 03434.6508 MHz, 434.65 MHz
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[13:32] <BARC> Expecting BARC6 to deliver a very interesting result today if anyone fancies a peek on tracker.
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[13:44] <hyde00001>
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[14:05] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:05] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03South Pacific Ocean 10(-7.51893,-167.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0310 hours ago
[14:06] <BARC> BARC6 about to take a 3kg payload past 42km
[14:10] <hyde00001> Bang...
[14:10] <hyde00001> 43.7 impressive
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[14:14] <Ian_> Congrats
[14:16] <fsphil> look out below
[14:16] <craag> What size balloon BARC ?
[14:17] <BARC> Hwoyees latest
[14:17] <BARC> 5000g
[14:17] <BARC> difficult to handle on the ground
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[14:19] <fsphil> that's a monster
[14:20] <fsphil> so, how many's now wondering what altitude it could do with a smaller payload? :)
[14:20] <BARC> someone a bit more efficient with their insulation than us haha
[14:20] <BARC> we had two GoPros on board that, will be happy to share the images
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[14:36] <Laurenceb> wtf
[14:36] <Laurenceb> I like this
[14:36] <Laurenceb> imagine how big the rockoon could be
[14:36] <Laurenceb> 3kg to 43.7km O_o
[14:36] <Laurenceb> woah
[14:37] <Laurenceb> !whereis BARC6
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03BARC6 is over 03East Riding of Yorkshire, UK 10(53.98645,-0.74495) at 037627 meters
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[14:40] <fsphil> how good a rocket would 3kg give you?
[14:42] <Laurenceb> orbital :P
[14:42] <fsphil> well, what are you waiting on :)
[14:43] <Laurenceb> any free time whatsoever
[14:43] <fsphil> ah yes, that mythical beastie
[14:44] <AndyEsser> Laurenceb: did you see the Llanbedr/B2Space rockoon stuff announced last week?
[14:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N8CTB-11 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N8CTB-11
[14:45] <Laurenceb> AndyEsser: no I'll have a read
[14:45] <AndyEsser> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-40855358
[14:45] <Laurenceb> what on earth
[14:46] <Laurenceb> like this will happen
[14:46] <AndyEsser> indeed
[14:46] <Laurenceb> woah that rockoon looks like my design
[14:46] <AndyEsser> been meaning to throw it your way since I heard about it
[14:46] <AndyEsser> but kept forgetting
[14:46] <Laurenceb> looks like they used startupgenerator.py
[14:47] <AndyEsser> I'm there next week
[14:47] <Laurenceb> looks like they can handle Finnance
[14:47] <AndyEsser> anything you want me to pass on to Snowdonia Aerospace about the project :P
[14:47] <AndyEsser> that they're a bit bonkers?
[14:48] <Laurenceb> rockoon doesnt really make much sense beyond a few kg to orbit
[14:48] <Laurenceb> but maybe thats all they are aiming for
[14:49] <Laurenceb> rockets actually scale down quite well, especially liquid fuelled ones
[14:49] <AndyEsser> they're aiming to put payloads up to 150kg
[14:49] <Laurenceb> solid doesnt scale so nicely due to the burn time
[14:49] <Laurenceb> hmm
[14:49] <AndyEsser> so the balloon is going to be rather sizeable
[14:49] <Laurenceb> are they planning on solid?
[14:50] <AndyEsser> I believe so
[14:50] <AndyEsser> all I know is it's a 3 stage rocket
[14:50] <AndyEsser> to the "desired precise low earth orbit"
[14:51] <Laurenceb> they look like clowns tbh
[14:52] <Laurenceb> 150Kg payload is firmly into ground launch domain
[14:52] <Laurenceb> see rocketlab electron
[14:53] <AndyEsser> yea
[14:53] <AndyEsser> I don't see how they can make a rockoon with that payload size work
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[14:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KC1EAI after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1EAI
[14:54] <AndyEsser> I'd suggest the balloon trajectory would be too unpredictable to end up with a precise orbit if they even managed to get up there
[14:54] <Laurenceb> well they can
[14:54] <Laurenceb> it will work but there is v little point
[14:54] <AndyEsser> and 150kg from altitude if the balloon goes wrong... will cause a nice crater
[14:54] <Laurenceb> as air drag effects are very low at that mass
[14:55] <Laurenceb> a single cubesat or maybe triple cubesat launcher rockoon might be worth it
[14:55] <AndyEsser> that's where I think the real money in small launchers would be
[14:55] <AndyEsser> maybe something up to like 50kg payload, from ground launch
[14:55] <AndyEsser> but specialising in cheaply deploying cubesats
[14:56] <AndyEsser> Llanbedr are pushing hard to want to become one of these "UK Spaceports" but not sure they really understand the domain
[14:56] <AndyEsser> also, surprised QinetiQ backed the idea behind this b2space thing
[14:56] <AndyEsser> maybe there's more that we don't know
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[14:58] <Laurenceb> woah
[14:58] Action: PE2BZ is giving himself an applaus. The rfm96 and the picam fit in the pi zero house and are tx ┬┤ing lora :-)
[14:58] <Laurenceb> well to be fair my impression of QinetiQ was that they were full of bs
[14:59] <Laurenceb> but 5 seconds of looking at the website and it doesn't look good
[14:59] <Laurenceb> they can't even spell
[14:59] <AndyEsser> tbf they personally aren't mentioning this whole thing
[14:59] <AndyEsser> wondering if they'll stay silent, and if b2space succeed get some money/glory then
[14:59] <AndyEsser> and with that
[14:59] <AndyEsser> I'm outta here
[14:59] <AndyEsser> laters all
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[15:02] <Laurenceb> cya
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[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2XE-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2XE-1
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[16:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-5 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-5
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[17:14] <PE2BZ> Good evening. Somebody want to take a look at my pisky.txt ? https://pastebin.com/xTBStakY the problem is that the LORA_image_packets_1=20 seems to be ignored. I get one image packet, one telemetry and so on.
[17:14] <PE2BZ> Pi Zero with latest pits / tracker installed
[17:23] <daveake> Correct
[17:23] <daveake> It's because you're not flying yet
[17:24] <daveake> See the blog post I did on camera settings
[17:25] <daveake> The idea is to get more telemetry through when it's at low altitude, so you get more data as it's landing
[17:27] <PE2BZ> Is that the blog about Pi in the sky photography ?
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[17:36] <PE2BZ> Does the high=2000 setting work for both the RTTY and LORA configuration ? For testing I did set high=0 and the image size went to the required format but the telemetry is still every 1 iamge packet
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[17:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HydeChase_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HydeChase_chase
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[18:01] <bertrik> adamgreig: I managed to get some data uploaded to habitat last night, using a java client
[18:02] <bertrik> I used the callsign NOTAFLIGHT, I didn't submit a form with payload format (or something like that) yet
[18:05] <bertrik> what I still don't understand, is how to pass the latitude/longitude/altitude of a receiver to habitat
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[18:06] <adamgreig> cool
[18:06] <adamgreig> upload listener_telemetry type documents
[18:06] <adamgreig> you're uploading payload_telemetry presumably
[18:06] <adamgreig> listener_telemetry gives a location for receiver callsigns
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[18:15] <bertrik> yes, I was doing update/add_listener, I'll look into the listener_telemetry stuff
[18:19] <bertrik> TTN gives me a complete list of all receivers, including id/lat/lon/alt, for each received packet
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[18:41] <PE2BZ> daveake I did set heigh=0 to test the image size but the telemetry did stay on 1 on 1 but with heigh=-1 it goes to 1 telemetry for 20 image packets
[18:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BALLOONOLO-8_LORA after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-8_LORA
[18:44] <PE2BZ> So it works :-) Tomorrow I have to adjust the focus.
[18:50] <bertrik> adamgreig: can you help me a little? do I need to upload both listener_information and listener_telemetry? What are the exact JSON contents and what is the URL to POST/PUT to?
[18:52] <adamgreig> cooking dinner atm but the json should be documented on habitat.readthedocs.org with the relevant url under "included views"
[18:52] <adamgreig> but also check out uh
[18:53] <adamgreig> http://habitat.habhub.org/jse maybe
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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