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[09:05] <PE2BZ> Good morning. Did anyone experiment with a 70 cm wire as antenna in stead of 1/4 wave ?
[09:09] <LazyLeopard> I'd expect the impedance to be somewhat mismatched...
[09:09] <PE2BZ> Just did read it. take 3/4 wave for the same impedance :-)
[09:10] <PE2BZ> But the radiation pattern seems to be more up. I don´t want radiation up on a HAB...
[09:13] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, 3/4 wave would be nearer the mark. The question is figuring out what sort of pattern works best. On the balloon you want a bit of energy going almost straight down, so an upside-down quarter wave with a ground plane above the driven element works pretty well.
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[09:17] <PE2BZ> An upside down quarter wave is proven, but I want my camera pointing down with no sign of the antenna. And all that in a Pi Zero case...
[09:20] <LazyLeopard> A right-way-up quarter-wave is going to put very little energy down below its ground-plane.
[09:21] <LazyLeopard> You could, I guess, try a plain horizontal dipole, but half its energy would go into the sky, and you'd have nulls off the end, so the signal would vary as the payload rotated.
[09:23] <PE2BZ> Thanks. The quarter wave up was what I planned. So that´s not going to happen.
[09:24] <LazyLeopard> You could, perhaps, try a dipole in V-form with some gound-plane above it. However, you'd start running into the risk of the radiation pattern being badly affected by wires getting knocked out of place...
[09:25] <LazyLeopard> Maybe a V-form dipole without a ground-plane might work?
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[09:26] <PE2BZ> An inverted V ? One radiator and one reflector, both 45 degrees angle ?
[09:26] <PE2BZ> That could point downwards.
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[09:26] <LazyLeopard> Well, and upside-down inverted-V ;)
[09:27] <PE2BZ> My test location is at 27 m asl. Not really comparable with a hab ....
[09:27] <LazyLeopard> s/and/an/
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[09:37] <PE2BZ> !ping BSS10
[09:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Last contact with 03BSS10 was 03a day ago
[09:37] <PE2BZ> !whereis BSS10
[09:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: 03BSS10 was over 03Falköping Ö, Sweden 10(58.10416,13.54166) at 035300 meters about 03a day ago
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[10:12] <PE2BZ> !join #habhub
[10:12] <PE2BZ> join #habhub
[10:14] <Vaizki> just do it
[10:15] <PE2BZ> It did not. Server / Join a channel / #habhub did :-)
[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI868 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI868
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
[10:20] <Kryczek> PE2BZ: commands that are local to your IRC client start with a slash: "/join #habhub" would have worked :)
[10:20] <Kryczek> PE2BZ: everything else is sent to the chatroom...
[10:21] <PE2BZ> Tnx Kryczek !
[10:21] <Kryczek> PE2BZ: things like !ping are not official IRC commands, they are just chat text that some bots pick up on and reply to
[10:22] <Kryczek> you're welcome :)
[10:22] <PE2BZ> I did see an admin use that on #habhub and I am a copy paste guy ;-)
[10:22] <Kryczek> haha
[10:49] <Mike-SA6BSS> PE2BZ: bss10 not launched just a false packet decrypted by the script
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[11:19] <PE2BZ> Tnx Mike !
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC6 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC6
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:40] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Madang Province, Papua New Guinea 10(-4.51893,144.96215) at 0313999 meters about 034 hours ago
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> Fun journey :)
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[11:42] <darkside> oh what
[11:43] <SpeedEvil> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03SpeedEvil: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Madang Province, Papua New Guinea 10(-4.51893,144.96215) at 0313999 meters about 034 hours ago
[11:43] <SpeedEvil> ^
[11:44] <darkside> yeah
[11:44] <darkside> it made it south of the equator :P
[11:44] <fsphil> oooh, wonder if it will stay there
[11:44] <fsphil> I think the last one to cross the equator didn't get far
[11:45] <darkside> so what freq is it on and what modulation is it doing?
[11:45] <fsphil> that was in the other direction iirc
[11:45] <darkside> i see 20m in the description
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> The 'equator' zonologically (?) wanders a few degrees from the real equator, and you can still be in the other hemisphere even when several degrees n/s
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> (not checked in this question.
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> in this instance
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[11:52] <PE2BZ> !dial BARC6
[11:52] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC6 10(8694): 03434.65 MHz, 434.403 MHz, 434.6508 MHz
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[12:04] <pe1ans> !dail BARC6
[12:04] <pe1ans> !dial-BARC6
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03pe1ans: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:05] <jbayfield> !dial BARC6
[12:05] <SpacenearUS> 03jbayfield: Latest dials for 03BARC6 10(8694): 03434.403 MHz, 434.6508 MHz, 434.65 MHz
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC4 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
[12:24] <PE2BZ> !dial barc4
[12:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC4 10(ea18): 03434.65 MHz, 434.451 MHz
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[14:04] <Mike-SA6BSS> darkside: Hirf doing wspr on 20 and aprs on 2m, frequncy adjusting freq to geo location
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[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N8CTB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N8CTB-11
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[15:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ERRNO-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ERRNO-6
[15:04] <AndyEsser> nice
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03???_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=%3F%3F%3F_chase
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB_chase
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[16:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CHANGEME after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[16:56] <N7SMI> Oh no! Our balloon (ERRNO-6) just landed in the local sewage retention ponds! What are the odds!?!
[16:59] <N7SMI> Still transmitting, so that's a good sign. Hopefully the recovery team can find a way to retrieve it.
[17:00] <Mike-SA6BSS> ohh, thats nasty !!
[17:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DO2EIM-1 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
[17:19] <jbayfield> N7SMI: Actually in the ponds or along one of the banks? :o
[17:20] <N7SMI> In the sewage pond. The wind has blown it to the edge of the pond. They're trying to get access with the city to recover it. It's in a lower pond, so hopefully not too stinky.
[17:23] <jbayfield> Fingers crossed!
[17:23] <fsphil> oops
[17:23] <fsphil> that may be a first
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[17:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EALCAMP - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EALCAMP
[17:24] Nick change: matthias -> Matthias
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[17:37] <radio-noob> Good luck recovering your pooloon friend
[17:38] <radio-noob> keeP us posted
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[18:39] <Ian_> :)
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[18:51] <Laurenceb> hi, anyone here installed linux on UEFI systems?
[18:52] Action: Laurenceb is in over his head
[18:52] <Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/yjV6NOw
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[19:04] <N7SMI> The payload has safely been recovered from the sewage retention ponds. Fortunately it landed in a cleaner pond - if it had landed in another one, they were told they'd have to have hepatitis shots before they could recover it!
[19:05] <PE2BZ> Now that´s good news !
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[19:09] <radio-noob> Laughed a bit at the hep shot comment
[19:09] <radio-noob> Great news
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[19:14] <SpeedEvil> N7SMI: yay
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[19:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> N7SMI: :)
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[20:09] <jbayfield> N7SMI: Fantastic news. :)
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[21:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NA9VY-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NA9VY-11
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[21:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[22:04] <radio-noob> To the author of the habhub tracker and "SpacenearUS" IRC bot: super neat. Can you link the docs on to use api and is it a free service?
[22:05] <radio-noob> & does your 'loon need some means of inet connectivity (gsm?) to ping it?
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[22:47] <Ian_> Is radio-noob a serial name changer? Might make it difficult to spot if he is about to answer his questions :)
[22:49] <adamgreig> yea I think all the -noob is them
[22:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[22:54] <Ian_> I think that I came to that conclusion too. Nice to have/use a 'static' name. If only for sanity's sake. That would be 'Sanity-noob' of course.:)
[22:55] <Ian_> GN, off to bunk. LH still numb after dupuytren's op. :(
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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