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[00:51] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[00:51] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(12.48107,174.96215) at 0313999 meters about 03an hour ago
[01:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Car_chase
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[01:56] <Professor> nice
[01:56] <Professor> er, ignore that
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WX4SKY_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WX4SKY_chase
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[12:49] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[12:49] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03Marshall Islands 10(9.48107,168.96215) at 0313999 meters about 036 hours ago
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[13:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S16 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S16
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[13:20] <Laurenceb_> coming up to 11 months in the air
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Nice ! Without having to replace batteries :-)
[13:30] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:31] Action: SpeedEvil imagines a battery-changing quad.
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[13:38] <Dan_KU> Hi everyone! Am I able to use dl-fldigi in HAB mode to tune my SDR dongle, or do I have to tune it first using some other program? I'm able to pick up the signal of my radiometrix transmitter using sdr# but cant/not sure how to do the same on dl-fldigi
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[13:40] <PE2BZ> Hi, you need to route the audio from your sdr# software to the dl-fldigi software.
[13:41] <PE2BZ> I assume Windows OS ?
[13:41] <Dan_KU> yes indeedy
[13:43] <PE2BZ> Are you familiair with Virtual Audio ?
[13:43] <Dan_KU> not at all, sorry!
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[13:44] <PE2BZ> Imagine you add a virtual audio device to your computer, for playback and recording
[13:44] <Dan_KU> is it used to feed audio out of sdr# and into dl-fldigi?
[13:44] <Dan_KU> ah
[13:44] <PE2BZ> After that, tell the SDR# software to use that device as playback device (send it´s output to that)
[13:45] <PE2BZ> And then, tell fl-digi that same device is the input device
[13:45] <PE2BZ> For one device, it´s even free :-)
[13:45] <PE2BZ> http://www.vb-audio.com/Cable/index.htm
[13:46] <PE2BZ> And you can tell Windows sound control to listen to the virtual device also, together with fldigi, so you don´t miss what you are receiving
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[13:46] <Dan_KU> brilliant!
[13:46] <Dan_KU> I'll try it now and get back to you, thanks so much :)
[13:48] <PE2BZ> I ´ll make some coffe and be back in about 15 minutes
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[14:03] <Dan_KU> ok so im getting a clear signal going to dl-fldigi but ive uploaded the UKHAS RTTY test code and so far no information is coming through
[14:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03680222_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=680222_chase
[14:07] <PE2BZ> Any screenshots of fldigi to share ?
[14:10] <Dan_KU> https://snag.gy/KYIzoN.jpg
[14:12] <PE2BZ> For RTTY I expect to see 2 of those traces with a little (425 ? ) hz shift between them. Set the gain for the rtl device on sdr# as low as possible. Does it sound like rtty (2 diffent tones alternating)
[14:13] <PE2BZ> http://ava.upuaut.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ntx2b-6.jpg for example
[14:14] <Dan_KU> no it doesnt
[14:14] <PE2BZ> what is connected to the radiometrix module ?
[14:16] <Dan_KU> set up exactly like on the ukhas "linking arduino to ntx2"
[14:17] <Dan_KU> ive re-uploaded the basic code, before i was seeing 2 destinct lines but now theyve gone
[14:19] <Dan_KU> back in 5
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[14:32] <jbayfield_> Having a play with visualising some HAB data on a 3D map - nothing too interesting but thought it might be worth showing what I have at the moment. https://i.gyazo.com/f88831c1a40cec1ba6215488701ad7bf.png
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[14:44] <SpeedEvil> If you have a 3d map, the more interesting thing to do would be to run proper fresnel zone 'line of sight' calculations on things at altitude.
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> using actual terrain
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[14:49] <jbayfield_> That would be interesting, true. This is more of an experiment with the mapping library and the habitat API, to be honest - but I will consider it!
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> depends on the data source.
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> It might be easier just to skip it an eat SRTM and do that.
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> https://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/cbanddataproducts.html
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[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[18:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS10 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS10
[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03dastin_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=dastin_chase
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[18:23] <PE2BZ> Good evening. If you fly a Pi with Pits board and power it with 4 batteries, can it run with 4 Energizer Lithium without problems ? Given the ¨open voltage¨ of about 2 V per cell ?
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[18:56] <SM0ULC-Reb> hi all
[18:56] <SM0ULC-Reb> Any tip of a high gain 70cm antenna? omni
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[20:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[20:55] <rf-noob> building my first 1/4 wave ground plane antenna. just bought copper wire for the radiator and radials
[20:55] <rf-noob> question: are the radials independent (dont touch) the radiator
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[20:56] <rf-noob> and does the rf antenna on the hx1 connect to the radiator and the radials connect to each other and rf ground
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[20:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Independent, they connect to the co-ax shield - RF ground, only the vertical element goes to the inner of co-ax and to RF output
[20:57] <rf-noob> ok thank you. im not using a coax cable. will insulated wire suffice?
[20:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No not really unless its a VERY short distance
[20:58] <rf-noob> not sure i quite follow the logic
[20:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> how far from the transmitter board to the aerial itself ?
[20:59] <rf-noob> were talking about the insulated jumper wires like the ones you use on a breadboard
[20:59] <rf-noob> and 1-2ft
[20:59] <SIbot> In real units: 2 ft = 0.61 m
[21:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes I understand, ut co-ax cable has special properties it maintains the impeadance of the connection, its NOT like carrying DC - ah 1-2 fett ! no way you MUST use co-ax of the right impeadance 50 Ohms
[21:00] <SIbot> In real units: 2 ft = 0.61 m
[21:01] <rf-noob> ohh
[21:01] <rf-noob> that makes sense
[21:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> a few milliemeters you might get away with but not that distance!!!
[21:01] <rf-noob> ok i understand im new to rf and have been treating it like dc current
[21:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> otherwise the aerial gets extended by the same length of wire your using
[21:02] <rf-noob> right
[21:02] <rf-noob> so it sounds like i need to buy a coax adapter and solder the hx1 pins to it
[21:02] <rf-noob> and put rf ground to outside of the coax
[21:02] <rf-noob> and the rf out to the middle
[21:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> or solder the co-ax direct to the pins unless you need to connect and disconnect it
[21:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> quite often the conector can be used as the base of an aerial as it gives a sturdy connection point, then co-ax soldered direct to Tx pins and matching connector at aerial end
[21:05] <rf-noob> oh fuck me man, i just bought some L brackets to build the mounting point
[21:05] <rf-noob> because i was not planning on using a coax
[21:06] <rf-noob> looks like i need that part they use in all the tutorials
[21:06] <rf-noob> "SO-239 UHF mount"
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[21:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Thats the reason! No use SMA its only low power your using!!
[21:07] <rf-noob> i understand now
[21:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you don't want heavy weight like an SO239 socket and plug!
[21:07] <rf-noob> can you talk more on the property of the coax cable that allows rf to go through
[21:08] <rf-noob> is it because the mesh of the rf ground sheilds the signal or something
[21:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes for ages but you would be better off reading wikipedia and tutorials on RF
[21:08] <rf-noob> ok
[21:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes the screen (outer) sheilds the RF but also maintains the correct spacing and hence impeadance of the connection, mpeadance when using RF is VERY important normally.
[21:10] <rf-noob> ok i need to read more on impedance
[21:11] <rf-noob> my goal is to test my code i wrote for my arduino for asfk
[21:11] Nick change: ms7821_ -> ms7821
[21:11] <rf-noob> im very far from actually launching a balloon
[21:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> with the low powers we use for tracking its not quite as important as when handling lots of RF power, but its still needs to be correct otherwise losses occur.
[21:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Your using AFSK are you using AX25 network then ?
[21:12] <rf-noob> makes sense. i am going to build an antenna on the ground to just test using the aprs network. will rf signals "escape" where i solder the coax to the hx1?
[21:13] <rf-noob> ax.25 protocol yes
[21:13] <rf-noob> alternating 1200 and 2200 tones
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[21:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> not sufficent to worry about ut its good practice to make the conenction symetrical with half the shield wires going to either side of the rf output pin, which is why there are normally two RF ground pins
[21:14] <rf-noob> ohhh
[21:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> either side of the rf output pin
[21:14] <rf-noob> i saw that on the hx1 schematic and wondered why there were 2 pins
[21:14] <rf-noob> yes the group of 3 pins i see it
[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Also try to keep co-ax away from other sensitive circuits likewise the aerial
[21:16] <rf-noob> when you say aeriel are you reffering to the radiator/rf antenna out?
[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> itself. Same goes for GPS aerials keep as far away from other electrical circuits especially if they carry switching signals
[21:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes the radiator ground plane combination is the aerial
[21:17] <rf-noob> do i really need a gps antenna? i am getting 7 satelines in my house
[21:17] <rf-noob> i would imagine i would need one even less at high altitude
[21:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the GPS aerial may e on the GPS board already, but keep it away from cameras etc. they have a habit of generatin unshielded RF signals that can interfere with GPS reception!!
[21:19] <rf-noob> oh geeze, im learing so much
[21:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the cheap cameras can oblitereate the GPS signal entirley at times, and not consistintley either
[21:20] <rf-noob> you lost me
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> many trarkers have failed for that very reason
[21:20] <rf-noob> is the camera generating a rf signal that effects the gps?
[21:20] <rf-noob> with all due respect, how the f***
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes, any computerised system will generate RF noise, cheap items especially
[21:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> many clocks on computer/camera boards work at many MHz and harmonics from the square waves extend uo into the GHz bands where GPS operates
[21:21] <rf-noob> understood, im using the raspberry pi camera. ill mount it as far away from the aprs/gps aerials
[21:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the RPi isn't too bad but again its general to avoid the risk!
[21:23] <rf-noob> i agree, i dont want to fuck up any sort of communication systems by sending something in the air that generates interference
[21:23] <rf-noob> could the rf noise generated by a rpi be enough (at altitude) to have a significant impact on a system such as gps satelites?
[21:24] <rf-noob> i am having a hard time understanding the dangers of rf noise
[21:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> no not on the satellites themselves but on GPS receivers nearby a few inches away yes it can, also depending on what circuits are operating the levels of interference will vary with
[21:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> what the computer is doing at the time
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[21:25] <rf-noob> i understand now
[21:26] <rf-noob> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/07/31/80-million-yacht-hijacked-by-students-spoofing-gps-signals/
[21:27] <rf-noob> these sorts of things keep me up at night. ballooners transmitting on gps frequency making my nav system in my phone break
[21:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes jamming spoffing GPS is quite an easy to accomplish task!
[21:28] <rf-noob> thats terrifying
[21:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Well a trcker only receives signals at GPS frequeinceies - or should! it won't e transmitting them intentionally!
[21:29] <rf-noob> haha
[21:29] <rf-noob> how does one measure impedence wise Geoff-G8DHE-M
[21:30] <rf-noob> can i do it with my multimeter? i dont have a fancy antenna tool
[21:30] <rf-noob> SWR meter or what theyre called
[21:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> With quite comples gear, you normally buy the correct co-ax and connector types
[21:30] <rf-noob> ugh, really forcing me to go to the store to buy these parts to get my antenna working
[21:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> SWR bridges measure power going up and returning, it doesn't measure impedance as such at all
[21:32] <rf-noob> ok so my todo list for today:
[21:32] <rf-noob> - buy a coax cable and solider it to my hx1
[21:32] <rf-noob> - buy a SO-239 and build the antenna
[21:32] <rf-noob> - profit
[21:33] <rf-noob> question: do i just cut the coax cable and solder to the mesh and core?
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[21:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> no don't use SO-239 ues RG138 and SMA connectors
[21:34] <rf-noob> what is the rg138? im imagining some sort of trinket to connect coax to my breadboard?
[21:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You need to read up on how to connect the co-ax its not quite as simple as seperating them and soldering them you need to keep the format of the connection
[21:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> RG138 is a type of thin flexible co-ax
[21:34] <rf-noob> i see
[21:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> small enough to fit the right SMA connectors
[21:35] <rf-noob> is the "sma connector" you describe
[21:35] <rf-noob> the way of connecting the hx1 to the coax
[21:35] <rf-noob> like are there pins on it i can solder to
[21:36] <rf-noob> i just googled it. makes perfect sense
[21:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No that will be splayed out wires onto the pins, the SMA connectors are small plugs/sockets that attach t the co-ax and maintain the shpae and impeadance thru them
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[21:36] <rf-noob> i need to solder a wire from the hx1 to the sma connector right
[21:37] <rf-noob> can i get away with using breadboard wire or willl that fuck the impeadance too much?
[21:37] <rf-noob> to connect the hx1 and sma connetor
[21:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Read up and research SMA connectors and co-ax it needs lots of pictures to help
[21:37] <rf-noob> ok
[21:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=pcb+mount+sma+connector&num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsr4zMyMPVAhWqAsAKHZ7SD04Q_AUICygC&biw=1226&bih=729 these are SMA connectors
[21:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> they come in lots of shapes and formats and take different sizes of cable you want a thin flexible co-ax RG138 is typical
[21:39] <rf-noob> ok could i find rg138 co-ax at most hardware stores? ive seen sma connectors there before
[21:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes
[21:40] <rf-noob> and i assume i solder the rf ground to the outside four pins (dividing it amongst the 2 rf ground pins per your advice) and then the rf antenna to the mdidle of the sma?
[21:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes trhat's it anyway must go now AFK
[21:41] <rf-noob> thats all my questions
[21:41] <rf-noob> thanks so much
[21:41] <rf-noob> going to the store
[21:43] <rf-noob> one last thing if youre still here- why did you advise i do not use the SO-239 for building the actual antenna?
[21:44] <rf-noob> weight i can understand
[21:44] <rf-noob> otherwise going to grab one of those to build my demo antenna
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[21:46] <rf-noob> oh i see what youre saying after reading your messages again
[21:47] <rf-noob> so-239 IS a sma connector,
[21:47] <rf-noob> thank you friend
[21:47] <rf-noob> bye
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[21:57] <Ian_> rf-noob it appears that you haven't realised that this is actually a family friendly site and ckuf anagrams are best not used as adjectives or verbs. A number of young Habbers are around 14 yrs old or so.
[21:58] <Ian_> The other things is not to confuse SMA with R-SMA connectors which are a recipe for signal discontinuity disaster. Blame the regulators for dreaming that one up!
[21:59] <Ian_> Well that was a waste of time, wasn't it - gone!
[22:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-6
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[22:37] <aadamson> Ian_, I think he also needed some other help.. .last time I checked an SO-239 wasn't anywhere close to an SMA connector... <shrug>
[22:39] <aadamson> haha... HIRF(w)-6, will it make it... 44 days to 9/20
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