highaltitude.log.20170720

[00:10] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[00:10] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(29.48107,-65.03785) at 0313999 meters about 032 hours ago
[00:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0311 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[06:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-14 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-14
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[07:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS8 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS8
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[08:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DRK3 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DRK3
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[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JURA1 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JURA1
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[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03680222_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=680222_chase
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[10:42] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03Jura1 10(118c), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[10:42] <pb0ahx> !payload 118c
[10:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03JURA1 10(118c) 03$$JURA1 - 03PITS Test - 03434.55 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[11:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[11:31] <pb0ahx> any info JURA1 ??
[11:32] <acid3> ?
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[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TT7F5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TT7F5
[11:40] <jbayfield> pb0ahx: Was wondering the same thing, haven't heard anything in quite a while
[11:41] <pb0ahx> Ok we wait patiently
[11:42] <pb0ahx> How is the weather currently in the UK
[11:43] <fsphil> mixed up a bit
[11:43] <pb0ahx> but not bad ok
[11:43] <fsphil> depends where you are
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:44] <jbayfield> Overcast down in the south east area
[11:44] <pb0ahx> Here is very cloudy and sometimes a splash of rain
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[12:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[12:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK0JKG after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0JKG
[12:40] <acid3> pb0ahx: shit weather as always here
[12:41] <fsphil> the met office should just say that some day
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[12:49] <gonzo_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zlMO4z2T74
[12:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL9UL-1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL9UL-1_chase
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[14:19] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[14:19] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(28.68941,-70.78785) at 0314110 meters about 036 minutes ago
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[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W9YJ-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9YJ-11
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W9YJ-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9YJ-15
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[14:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W9YJ-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9YJ-14
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[14:40] <jbayfield> Looks like Jura1 is back
[14:43] <acid3> who is jura1?
[14:44] <PE2BZ> jura1 is a planned HAB flight for today
[14:46] <jbayfield> What PE2BZ said - not sure who it belongs to though
[14:47] <AndyEsser> it's BARC
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[14:48] <acid3> russian hab?
[14:48] <PE2BZ> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=7&qm=1_hour&f=JURA1
[14:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JURA1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JURA1_chase
[14:52] <spookydillow> jura1 has a £1500 watch as a payload, whoever finds it keeps.
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[14:55] <PE2BZ> Is it a smart watch ?
[14:55] <acid3> never seen so expensive smart watches
[14:55] <spookydillow> https://www.watchintospace.com/ see here I dunno if its smart
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[14:56] <fsphil> !space
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[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB4ELK-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB4ELK-12
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[15:00] <acid3> why it is not moving?
[15:01] <gonzo_> looks like there has not been an update for 19mins
[15:02] <gonzo_> they are probably still working on it
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[15:06] <PE2BZ> spookydillow tnx for the url. Did not know about that payload ;-)
[15:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[15:07] <acid3> it is time to shot it down )
[15:08] <acid3> or takeover with a drone
[15:09] <PE2BZ> PREPARING FOR
[15:09] <PE2BZ> LUNCH... ?
[15:11] <jbayfield> Ah, looks like it hasn't launched yet.
[15:12] <PE2BZ> jbayfield getting impatient ? ;-)
[15:12] <PE2BZ> Do you have dl-fldigi installed ? for receiving / decoding the Jura payload ?
[15:12] <jbayfield> Not impatient - just saw it pop up this morning and noticed it hadn't moved hours later! It was on the calendar anyway
[15:13] <acid3> can anyone tell me how to decode? Which mode and which frequency?
[15:13] <PE2BZ> acid3
[15:13] <jbayfield> And yes, I have dl-fldigi set up with my terrible piece of wire stuck to the SDR base (17cm long, or thereabouts).
[15:13] <PE2BZ> !flights
[15:13] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03Jura1 10(118c), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[15:13] <jbayfield> Doubt I'll receive anything
[15:13] <PE2BZ> !payload Jura1
[15:13] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03JURA1 10(118c) 03$$JURA1 - 03PITS Test - 03434.55 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[15:14] <jbayfield> acid3: JURA1
[15:14] <jbayfield> - 434.55MHz USB RTTY 300 baud 600Hz shift ASCII-8 no parity 2 stop bits
[15:14] <acid3> will see if dongle will be stable enough for this )
[15:14] <jbayfield> I'm in the same boat as you, will be interesting to see what happens. :)
[15:14] <PE2BZ> acid3 so you need to tune to 434.550 in USB. Route the audio of your receiver (or sdr software) to the input of dl-fldigi HAB software.
[15:15] <acid3> do I need to download special version of fldigi?
[15:15] <PE2BZ> Select the flight Jura1 from the flight list and press auto configure
[15:15] <PE2BZ> Windows user ?
[15:15] <acid3> any )
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[15:15] <acid3> win/lin )
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[15:16] <jbayfield> PE2BZ: Any guidance on setting up the Operator section in dl-fldigi? (Callsign, Locator, etc)
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[15:17] <M0NRD_Work> This watch flight? If you were near the landing zone why would you upload any received packets? just saying? lol
[15:17] <PE2BZ> https://github.com/downloads/jamescoxon/dl-fldigi/dl-fldigi-3.20.29.r115.1.exe
[15:17] <PE2BZ> thats the windows version
[15:17] <jbayfield> I'm not nearby so it's not an issue for me ;)
[15:18] <PE2BZ> jbayfield you could enter jbayfield as callsign
[15:18] <PE2BZ> For locator, do you know your GPS position ?
[15:18] <spookydillow> Reckon its a publicity stunt. last time the company sent fish and chips into space.
[15:19] <PE2BZ> That would be frozen chips....
[15:19] <jbayfield> I can find out my GPS position, roughly
[15:19] <jbayfield> does that just go in {lat},{long} format?
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[15:20] <M0NRD_Work> sentintospace fly lots of commercial 'promotional' launches
[15:20] <spookydillow> they do indeed.
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[15:21] <PE2BZ> At the tab DL client the tab Location there you can choose stationary listener. Latitude and longitude as decimal value (for me 52.0 and 4.198) with a - sign for West
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[15:22] <spookydillow> will this promotional launch get off the ground?
[15:22] <jbayfield> 16:30 BST apparently
[15:22] <M0NRD_Work> was delayed because prediction wasn't good
[15:23] <PE2BZ> You mean the watch was not waterproof ? ;-)
[15:23] <jbayfield> PE2BZ: Thx - probably won't receive anything anyway but it's nice to know how to set it up
[15:24] <M0NRD_Work> think it was due to land in built up area, their twitter feed has had updates
[15:24] <PE2BZ> jbayfield any chance to place your computer / laptop with the dongle and antenna in the neighbourhood of the rooftop window ?
[15:25] <jbayfield> Already have done! :)
[15:25] <PE2BZ> +1 for you
[15:25] <M0NRD_Work> might get home in time to track at this rate, left all antennas unplugged
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[15:26] <PE2BZ> jbayfield do you appear on the map ? tracker.habhub.org ?
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[15:26] <jbayfield> No, but it's definitely set up and online according to dl-fldigi
[15:26] <spookydillow> I hope this fles, apart from the time I spent waiting, I reckon it would be good for the md at Jura watches bp.
[15:27] <M0NRD_Work> can take a few minutes to show up on map
[15:28] <jbayfield> M0NRD_work: +1
[15:28] <acid3> Building dl-fldigi
[15:29] <PE2BZ> You choose the Linux version ?
[15:30] <spookydillow> if you get the linux version working let me know how its done
[15:30] <PE2BZ> I am afk for preparing dinner. Back in abt 10 minutes
[15:31] <acid3> yes, windows machine is two meters away from me )) too far away )
[15:33] <jbayfield> seeing as I'm not on the map I think I've set it up wrong
[15:34] <jbayfield> nevermind, think I've got it setup now
[15:35] <jbayfield> yep, there it is
[15:35] <spookydillow> I see you too
[15:35] <jbayfield> JURA1 has launched
[15:38] <spookydillow> yes it has, can hear it but not decode yet
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[15:41] <jbayfield> I probably won't be able to hear anything with my terrible equipment.
[15:43] <PE2BZ> jbayfield is on the map !
[15:44] <PE2BZ> !payload Jura1
[15:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03JURA1 10(118c) 03$$JURA1 - 03PITS Test - 03434.55 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[15:44] <PE2BZ> !dial jura1
[15:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03JURA1 10(118c): 03434.55118 MHz, 434.5509 MHz
[15:45] <PE2BZ> jbayfield acid3 the dial function gives info where other listeners are tuned to. So the frequency should be close to that for you.
[15:45] <PE2BZ> jbayfield when you tuned to the local airport, what was your receiver frequency ?
[15:46] <jbayfield> 121.900 or thereabout, I think
[15:46] <jbayfield> unless receiver frequency means something different
[15:47] <PE2BZ> No, that´s what I mean. Is that frequency also listed somewhere for your airport ? Just to be shure you are not some kHz off frequency
[15:47] <acid3> done
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[15:48] <jbayfield> I haven't managed to figure out the difference yet
[15:48] <jbayfield> looking at the waterfall though I'm just picking up noise, no actual signals
[15:49] <PE2BZ> I find it listed for 121.900 indeed. Could you retune to that frequency and see if your signal is best at that frequency or any (1 , 2, 3, 5 or something) kHz lower or higher ?
[15:49] <jbayfield> sure
[15:49] <jbayfield> one sec
[15:50] <PE2BZ> Most dongles do have an offset and we have not set that yet. For AM signals about 9 kHz wide that does not differ to much. But for an RTTY signal about 1 kHz wide, 9 kHz is very very way off.
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[15:50] <acid3> spookydillow: succesfully done
[15:52] <jbayfield> tuned to departure ATIS instead as that's easier to tell, 121.85 is the recorded frequency. The SDR receives it at 121.930
[15:52] <jbayfield> so there's quite a big difference
[15:52] <PE2BZ> that´s huge.
[15:53] <jbayfield> There must be something wrong with my setup
[15:53] <acid3> you can set offset
[15:53] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Not by that much!
[15:53] <acid3> any value )
[15:53] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its normallya few KHz
[15:53] <acid3> even hundreds of MHz )
[15:54] <acid3> is it R820T dongle?
[15:54] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Not the correction on the RTL device
[15:55] <Geoff-G8DHE_> RTL2832 ISTR
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[15:55] <PE2BZ> I am going to check his setup.
[15:55] <Geoff-G8DHE_> At this range and 300baud its going to be difficult anyway
[15:56] <PE2BZ> I know. But at least if he sees the signal that would be nice :-)
[15:57] <acid3> !call jura1
[15:58] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[15:58] <acid3> ?
[15:58] <acid3> !dial jura1
[15:58] <SpacenearUS> 03acid3: Latest dials for 03JURA1 10(118c): 03434.551 MHz, 1.433 MHz, 434.5509 MHz, 434.5497 MHz, 434.65 MHz, 434.55067 MHz
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[16:07] <spookydillow> decoding images but not seeing them in ssdv window, any idea hy?
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[16:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I think they forgot to focus the camera!
[16:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> background is OK shame you can't see the face!
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[16:12] <M0NRD_Work> is it right time?
[16:12] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Nope
[16:12] <G8FJG> spookydillow :latest version of dl fldigi has a bug ...ssdv decodes dont show,,check your folder where you "save to"
[16:12] <PE2BZ> Only 27 ppm off ;-)
[16:13] <G8FJG> afk now dinner calls
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[16:18] <Guest86031> Anyone know the estimated time of arrival back to earth?
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[16:26] <acid3> anyone got rtty 300 test record?
[16:27] <jbayfield> !dial jura1
[16:27] <SpacenearUS> 03jbayfield: Latest dials for 03JURA1 10(118c): 03434.65 MHz, 434.551 MHz, 434.55077 MHz, 434.5496 MHz, 1.433 MHz, 434.55116 MHz, 434.55072 MHz
[16:28] <jbayfield> I think I've heard JURA1 a couple of times but not managed to get anything useful out of it
[16:28] <jbayfield> very, very faint though
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[16:37] <jbayfield> !dial jura1
[16:38] <SpacenearUS> 03jbayfield: Latest dials for 03JURA1 10(118c): 03434.65 MHz, 434.55116 MHz, 434.551 MHz, 1.433 MHz, 434.55077 MHz, 434.55034 MHz, 434.5496 MHz, 434.55067 MHz
[16:41] <PE2BZ> jbayfield nice !
[16:41] <jbayfield> I'm not sure whether it was just noise
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[16:52] <acid3> anyone got rtty 300 sample?
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[17:04] <adscas> If any fucking bastard gets their hands on that watch before I do, rest assured that I will murder everyone in your entire fucking county.
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[17:05] <acid3> mental
[17:05] <PE2BZ> added to the ignore list.
[17:07] <jbayfield> .-.
[17:07] <jbayfield> wow
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[17:11] <bertrik> ... stuff people say trying to prove they're mentally perfectly OK?
[17:16] <PE2BZ> what happened to jura1
[17:20] <fsphil> someone needs to watch their language
[17:21] <fsphil> we don't have time for that
[17:22] <G8FJG> they're just a wind up
[17:22] <fsphil> ticked off
[17:23] <lz1dev> not enough people with @ here :)
[17:23] <fsphil> it's usually unnecessary. which is nice
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[17:26] <PE2BZ> Did they turn of the TX to keep the wathc for itself ?
[17:26] <G8FJG> PE2BZ they switched tracking off to "have fun" finding it...looks like its landing in tough country . https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/pages/watch-into-space-live-updates
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[17:27] <G8FJG> should have been @5km it was a bit prem
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[17:28] <SpeedEvil> Just work out a simple pattern to walk to look for it and you should find it in only a few decades.
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[17:28] <daveake> £1500 watch with a Spot for tracking
[17:28] <daveake> brave
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[17:28] <G8FJG> you don't need a watch when retired ;-)
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[17:43] <gonzo_> or a cutout pic of a watch
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[17:44] <lostcause> what's all this about a watch?
[17:46] <lostcause> oh right (just seen the link above)
[17:46] <daveake> !dial watch
[17:46] <SpacenearUS> 03daveake: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[17:47] <jbayfield> !dial jura1
[17:47] <SpacenearUS> 03jbayfield: Latest dials for 03JURA1 10(118c): 03434.65 MHz, 434.551 MHz, 434.55077 MHz, 434.5496 MHz, 434.55037 MHz, 1.433 MHz
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[17:51] <PE2BZ> !watch dial ?
[17:51] <PE2BZ> !swatch dial ?
[17:51] <Laurenceb_> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/07/20/1638244/elon-musk-says-he-has-a-green-light-to-build-a-ny-philly-baltimore-dc-hyperloop
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[17:56] <fsphil> this will end badly
[17:58] <SpeedEvil> Or awesomely.
[17:59] <SpeedEvil> Has the original hypercomplex-loop with evacuation and air bearings and ... been mentioned at all in the last couple of years other than the tests in an evacuated tube?
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[17:59] <SpeedEvil> Also, propulsive landing for Dragon is off the cards apparently
[17:59] <Laurenceb_> who knows
[18:01] <Laurenceb_> and red dragon cancelled :(
[18:06] <SpeedEvil> Indeed.
[18:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.janes.com/article/72406/us-army-expects-to-soon-trial-kestrel-eye-electro-optical-micro-satellites
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[19:55] <BARC> Hi all, hope you've had an interesting day
[19:56] <BARC> We're not sure if the client has heard anything of the watch yet but nothing on our end
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[20:08] <enyc> BARC:im new to this.... dont know what to expect
[20:08] <enyc> BARC: was it regularly reporting before and now just gone dead ?????
[20:09] <BARC> It was set up to kill the signal just after burst
[20:09] <BARC> the client wanted a treasure hunt on landing without anyone knowing where it was
[20:09] <enyc> right
[20:09] <enyc> but last heard, way over 5km high?
[20:10] <fsphil> this seems unwise
[20:10] <enyc> "To make things fair, we will be cutting this feed when the watch is 5km from the ground, so the last part is up to you! Have fun  and good luck with the hunt!"
[20:10] <BARC> last heard at 24km which is when the tracker was cut out
[20:10] <enyc> was it? but thats 24km not 5km ? whats going on?
[20:11] <BARC> the client wanted a few changes when we arrived today to try to make the search area a bit bigger
[20:11] <enyc> page not correctly updated?
[20:11] <BARC> ah, possibly
[20:11] <enyc> please fix =)
[20:11] <BARC> not our side of the mission
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[20:12] <fsphil> there are easier ways to loose a watch
[20:12] <enyc> so... this means search-area MASSIVE ?
[20:12] <BARC> I hadn't seen what their page had said but we'll pass on the message
[20:12] <fsphil> -o
[20:12] <enyc> there was a news article saying that it might go outside cambridge...
[20:12] <enyc> this may be rubbish too
[20:13] <BARC> yeh that's certainly not correct
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[20:13] <BARC> from where it burst the direction of landing would be pretty much due north east
[20:14] <enyc> whatis "burst" in this context
[20:14] <BARC> when the balloon burst at peak altitude
[20:14] <enyc> o ok
[20:22] <arjunnaha> Is it possible for RTTY to be encrypted in a HAB situation?
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[20:24] <jbayfield> arjunnaha: For what purpose would you want to do that? It'd just make it harder to track. Surely there's nothing of significant interest to encrypt?
[20:25] <arjunnaha> jbayfield: Just thinking of today's watch launch, the launch team could have possibly turned on encryption at 5km instead of relying on a SPOT.
[20:25] <jbayfield> Good point, but it's still very much an edge case.
[20:25] <BARC> in principle we could have done something like that - we had a different system ready in the end
[20:26] <jbayfield> That said, theoretically there's probably nothing stopping you from doing that, from what I can see.
[20:26] <jbayfield> Just some software mods. :)
[20:26] <BARC> the client decided today that even we shouldn't know where it is so there wasn't a secondary tracker on board
[20:26] <arjunnaha> Ah. BARC: Did you not even have access to the SPOT portal?
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[20:27] <BARC> the spot was removed pre launch
[20:28] <arjunnaha> Eek, so no tracking below 5km at all?
[20:28] <BARC> at this point we know pretty much what you do, no-one has called us yet
[20:28] <BARC> so as best we know its still out there for the taking
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[20:34] <BARC> righty, I'm off - long day. Hopefully someone finds the watch soon!
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[20:36] <fsphil> his watch has ended
[20:37] <jbayfield> I doubt it'll be found.
[20:37] <daveake> I thought about chasing it
[20:37] <daveake> but only for a second
[20:37] <daveake> Wonder if they just stopped telemetry or had it switch the carrier off
[20:38] <fsphil> if it's a pits, I doubt they'd modify it. probably just telemetry off
[20:38] <daveake> I'd have chased it for the PITS, then binned the watch :)
[20:39] <daveake> Hmm wonder if they've ordered another one yet :)
[20:39] <Ian_> Just for a tick or two. I would have put a token in the payload, so that at least the customer knew that it had been found and by whom. With a watch on board, there is an opportunity missed if the finder just disappears.
[20:39] <daveake> yup
[20:39] <daveake> Seems daft really
[20:39] <daveake> Mostlikely a finder would take the watch, bin the rest and keep quiet
[20:40] <Ian_> Your [20:38] intent/action :)
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[20:42] <Ian_> That's what happens when the customer has full control of the rules . . .
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[20:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03680222_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=680222_chase
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[21:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Jura1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Jura1_chase
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[22:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S14 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S14
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[23:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-4 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-4
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[23:50] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[23:50] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(25.48107,-75.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0326 minutes ago
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