highaltitude.log.20170718

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[00:18] <jarod> https://www.flightradar24.com/DOABD/e213a19
[00:18] <jarod> via mlat :D
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[00:52] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[00:52] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(31.39774,-60.70452) at 0314110 meters about 033 hours ago
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[06:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JW_chase
[06:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-14 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-14
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[08:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MARTIAN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MARTIAN
[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DJSOFA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DJSOFA
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[08:55] <M0JCU> !dial martian
[08:55] <SpacenearUS> 03M0JCU: Latest dials for 03MARTIAN 10(121b): 03434.3 MHz
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[09:17] <DJSOFA> Hi, we are DJSOFA and we are launching from Waddesdon at 11:30 GDP. Any help tracking would be appreciated. Thx!
[09:19] <Martian> Hi,we are launching at 11:30 from Waddesdon, any help tracking would be appreciated. thanks
[09:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Rx sat here listening ;-)
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[09:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Flight images and waterfalls here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2017_Flights/Waddesdon-HAB2_20170718/
[09:21] <DJSOFA> Thanks Geoff
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[09:38] <michal_f> !flights
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> 03michal_f: Current flights: 03Waddesdon School HAB2 10(121b), 03hkSOL4 10(1267), 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MASA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MASA
[10:36] <DJSOFA> DJSOFA has lost its ground plane during launch, it is still transmitting but it is very weak. Any information would very useful. Thank you
[10:38] <G8KNN_> DJSOFA is a good signal in Cambridge, but has lost GPS lock :-(
[10:39] <fsphil> ooch
[10:39] <fsphil> what happened it DJSOFA?
[10:41] <DJSOFA> It bounced during launch, there will there is only a single wire transmitting now.
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[10:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[10:47] <daveake> Loss of ground plane should only halve the signal, if that, but what remains me no longer be optimal ...
[10:47] <daveake> may ^
[10:48] <gonzo_> also depends what shape/posn the wire is in
[10:48] <daveake> That's what I meant by non-optimal :)
[10:48] <gonzo_> fairy nuff
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[10:51] <M0JCU> What happened to Martian? Left behind or second balloon?
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[10:54] <DJSOFA> Update for Martian. First balloon popped, second one due to be launched soon.
[10:55] <daveake> ouch. I'm guessing it's windy then
[10:56] <DJSOFA> Unfortunately so, seems to be dying down a bit now so fingers crossed Martian will be up soon!
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[11:07] <M0JCU> Lots of QRM on the Martian frequency. Another rough launch?
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[11:12] <pe2bz_> !flights
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> 03pe2bz_: Current flights: 03Waddesdon School HAB2 10(121b), 03hkSOL4 10(1267), 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[11:13] <pe2bz_> !payload 121b
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> 03pe2bz_: Payload 03MARTIAN 10(121b) 03$$MARTIAN - 03WaddesdonHAB2 - 03434.3 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> 03pe2bz_: Payload 03DJSOFA 10(121b) 03$$DJSOFA - 03WaddesdonHAB2 - 03434.5 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[11:13] Nick change: pe2bz_ -> PE2BZ
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[11:32] <M0JCU> Martian launched
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[11:44] <M0NRD_Work> MARTIAN in trouble?
[11:45] <daveake> That's odd
[11:45] <daveake> Was doing 5m/s earlier
[11:45] <Darkside> where's the kaboom?
[11:47] <gonzo_> a bit of downards air?
[11:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:47] <daveake> It's need a lot of downwards air to cancel out an initial 5m/s ascent
[11:47] <daveake> It'd
[11:48] <M0NRD_Work> coming down now, assume leak
[11:49] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:49] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03Waddesdon School HAB2 10(121b), 03hkSOL4 10(1267), 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[11:50] <pb0ahx> !payload DJSOFA
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03DJSOFA 10(121b) 03$$DJSOFA - 03WaddesdonHAB2 - 03434.5 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[11:52] <daveake> Yes definitely looks like a leak. Similar profile to one of mine with a Pawan that had a hole in it, though that one did get a lot higher before the leak brought it back down
[11:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BIDOOF after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BIDOOF
[11:53] <M0NRD_Work> was that the one that hovered over the posh house?
[11:53] <gonzo_> rabbit of negative euphoria
[11:53] <daveake> Maybe they have a 3rd balloon and try again ?
[11:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DG8AR Rolf_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DG8AR%20%20Rolf_chase
[11:53] <daveake> M0NRD_Work: Yup
[11:53] <daveake> That was fun
[11:54] <PE2G> First green from DJSOFA here at -0.4 deg, 482 km. Not bad for a damaged antenna!
[11:54] <gonzo_> DJSOFA seems to be a bit stronger now. So not all lost
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[11:54] <gonzo_> snap
[11:57] <pb0ahx> lots of qrm here on freq DJSOFA nill writing here
[11:59] <PE2G> DJSOFA amidst QRM here too, nevertheless a lot of greens
[12:01] <pb0ahx> totaal niks van te maken hier
[12:01] <PE2G> Pitty
[12:01] <pb0ahx> yep
[12:06] <pb0ahx> Nothing to do is very strong and continuous
[12:09] <PE2G> Continuous here too, but many greens with 60Hz rx filter bandwidth
[12:09] <M0JCU> Martian should be a nice easy recovery. Still transmitting. I can almost get decodes from it
[12:13] <garymortimer> Years ago I went on an army course at Beicester as I recall there was a pub that had a sheep suspended from the ceiling (stuffed obviously)
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[12:22] <pb0ahx> Frits now it is going well
[12:23] <garymortimer> Wow, is it really a 30C day over there?
[12:24] <PE2G> pb0ahx: Nice :)
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[12:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Team MARTIAN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Team%20MARTIAN_chase
[12:32] <PA0RPA_> What is the frequency of BIDOOF ? Hear NOTHING on 434.253 Mhz.....Anyone ?
[12:35] <pb0ahx> DJSOFA is 434.500
[12:35] <pb0ahx> bidoof is not yet flying
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[12:42] <PA0RPA_> Thanks ! Sorry many HABS in England close together !
[12:45] <M0JCU> Good decodes from Martian. It appears to be walking across a field.
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[12:51] <daveake> BIDOOF appears to be launched
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[12:54] <garymortimer> looks like it
[12:54] <garymortimer> lots of noise on the cleethorpes SDR near that frequency
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[13:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JW_chase
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[13:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BIDOOF_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BIDOOF_chase
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[13:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[13:14] <G8FJG> Both copies of dl-fldigi here crash when trying to decode BIDOOF ?? both work ok on DJSOFA
[13:14] <G8FJG> trying again after re boot
[13:16] <G8KNN_> G8FJG: same problem for me :-(
[13:16] <G8FJG> djsofa decoded ok
[13:17] <G8FJG> ah not just me...its a "bit2 wierd
[13:17] <G8FJG> "bit"
[13:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wow picture size ???
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[13:22] <dbrooke> mine seems to freeze, still using some CPU, will try swapping the payloads between dl-fldigi versions
[13:23] <G8KNN_> I've tried different dl-fldigi versions but both fall over
[13:23] <daveake> Oh wow, full Picam resolution. That's a first :/
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> If it ever gets an image down!
[13:23] <daveake> (As in, first by a flight without the requisite bandwidth)
[13:23] <G8FJG> done that freezes ..on both versions,,,when you start decoding the ssdv packets
[13:23] <daveake> It won't
[13:24] <daveake> Not enough flight time/bandwidth
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Dragon_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Dragon_chase
[13:24] <daveake> Also, if it's Pits it has a maximum number of packets anyway
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[13:25] <M0NRD_Work> don't save the images locally, turned it off and doesn't freeze
[13:25] <G8FJG> try 8n1 300/630
[13:25] <G8KNN_> M0NRD_Work: agreed
[13:25] <G8KNN_> that seems to work
[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Don't think it worth even tracking that back to djsofa
[13:25] <M0NRD_Work> think it is the size of image probably more than supported by software?
[13:26] <dbrooke> the other one froze, but then unfroze ... and repeat, so maybe just very slow to save the image fragment
[13:27] <G8FJG> I switched off "save image" at the same time ...so could be the cause
[13:28] <dbrooke> Yes, I've turned off saving and it's running fine now
[13:28] <daveake> In PITS I keep a list of sent packets, so that if there's an uplink to request re-sending of a missing packet, then it just marks that packet as "not sent yet" so the packet soon gets re-sent. There's a maximum number of packets as it's a fixed size list.
[13:28] <G8FJG> yes agree ..switch back on and froze
[13:29] <daveake> fsphil - Any ideas about dl-fldigi crashing if it's set up to save SSDV images and the incoming image is huuuuge ?
[13:30] <daveake> s/crashing/freezing/
[13:30] <pb0ahx> size ssdv is here 2592X1936
[13:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> I see there are some other extreme size images on the server as well WMSIHA for instance
[13:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thinkk you need another section in the PITS manual daveake!
[13:31] <daveake> You mean http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2156 ??
[13:32] <daveake> Though yes, not pasted that into the manual yet
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[13:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> quite, extra emphasis for SD Card only!
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[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Team_DJSOFA_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Team_DJSOFA_chase
[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7ACP-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC5
[13:37] <fsphil> daveake: hmm, good question. I think I had it tested with very large images, but it's been a while
[13:37] <fsphil> it only happens when it needs to save an image/
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[13:37] <fsphil> that I might not have tested
[13:38] <daveake> Apparently (I'm not running it but a couple above are)
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[13:38] <fsphil> I shall test it
[13:39] <fsphil> is this the WMSIHA images currently on the live page?
[13:39] <fsphil> big beasties
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[13:40] <daveake> BIDOOF - 2592x1936
[13:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes WMSIHA is just in the main list, presumably testing
[13:41] <fsphil> tis the season for large images
[13:41] <daveake> Shame we can't have dl-fldigi pop up messages if we notice something odd
[13:41] <daveake> like "make those images smaller", or "you have no payload doc", or "It says CHANGEME for a reason"
[13:42] <dbrooke> fsphil: seems to spend a lot of time in a write() call, I'll try and save an strace dump as it's a bit quick to read on screen 8-)
[13:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Maybe put it in the software to generate an image with those mesages in it :)
[13:42] <daveake> heh now that's an idea :)
[13:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> I suspect the new generations of Kids will only understand pictures, text and keyboards won't exist ;)
[13:44] <fsphil> angry emoji
[13:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Bloated emojii
[13:44] <PE2G> !flights
[13:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Current flights: 03Waddesdon School HAB2 10(121b), 03hkSOL4 10(1267), 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[13:45] <PE2G> !dial d7f1
[13:45] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1): 03434.302 MHz, 434.250529 MHz, 434.25102 MHz, 434.2503 MHz, 434.250832 MHz, 434.250604 MHz, 434.25 MHz, 434.5006 MHz
[13:46] <dbrooke> it's written 7.2GB of image file !
[13:46] <dbrooke> suspect something out of range and just looping
[13:47] <fsphil> hmm
[13:47] <dbrooke> but it's not unfrozen this time
[13:47] <dbrooke> and not writing to disk any more
[13:47] <fsphil> windows or linux?
[13:47] <dbrooke> so I'll kill it and see if the strace log is useful
[13:47] <dbrooke> linux
[13:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S14 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S14
[13:48] <dbrooke> write(39, "\10b\305';O4\5\230\234;\34T\270\307C\212z\0208-\315\r\201$C\313\34\36idi"..., 4096) = -1 ENOSPC (No space left on device)
[13:48] <fsphil> oh I see a stupid code
[13:48] <fsphil> what was I thinking
[13:48] <dbrooke> that's why it stopped!
[13:49] <fsphil> are you able to recompile it?
[13:50] <dbrooke> http://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-U5Cumb.strace if it helps
[13:50] <dbrooke> and yes I can recompile
[13:50] <fsphil> https://github.com/fsphil/dl-fldigi/blob/master/src/ssdv/ssdv_rx.cxx#L569
[13:50] <fsphil> change that from int16_t to int
[13:51] <fsphil> or size_t, which would be more correct
[13:51] <fsphil> but either will work
[13:53] <dbrooke> building ...
[13:54] <fsphil> there's no logic to that being int16_t, wonder what my thinking was
[13:54] <garymortimer> BIDOFF is banging in on the Cleethorpes SDR
[13:55] <M0NRD_Work> just checking my local SSDV image directory and have a 62.7GB image from a flight a while back, it is only 1280x960pixels in size ;-)
[13:55] <fsphil> d'oh
[13:55] <dbrooke> seems to be compiling other files too
[13:55] <garymortimer> where are the images coming together for it? I can't see it on ssdv
[13:55] <fsphil> yeah dl-fldigi's build scripts are a bit sensitive
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[13:58] <fsphil> decoding nicely via the cleethorpes sdr
[13:58] <fsphil> not crashing either
[13:59] <dbrooke> getting an error from another file now so I suspect newer GCC is being more fussy
[13:59] <fsphil> I had a terrible timing compiling it on F25
[13:59] <fsphil> ended up removing whole sections of it
[13:59] <dbrooke> it's ages since I last built it
[14:00] <fsphil> I think there's another related bug
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[14:01] <fsphil> yeah
[14:02] <fsphil> me of the past never considered there'd be images >64k
[14:02] <fsphil> https://github.com/fsphil/dl-fldigi/blob/master/src/ssdv/ssdv.c#L1122
[14:02] <fsphil> change the 64 * 1024 to 1024 * 1024 or something larger
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[14:04] <fsphil> I don't think this image is going to finish before it lands
[14:04] <fsphil> this happened before
[14:04] <fsphil> was it the same team?
[14:04] <fsphil> it was grass last time
[14:05] <M0NRD_Work> think it was a BARC flight
[14:06] <M0NRD_Work> wondered where all my hard drive space had got to, had a clean up of old images and gained nearly 90GB ;-)
[14:06] <fsphil> see, it's a feature... :)
[14:07] <M0NRD_Work> it's okay sitting in my glass house and not even looking for a stone ;-)
[14:07] <fsphil> lol
[14:11] <dbrooke> looks like it's going to take some effort to get this to build again
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[14:14] <fsphil> I had to make a lot of changes to a function set_active()
[14:14] <daveake> Yes it was BARC last time too
[14:14] <dbrooke> luckily I have a backup from which to retrieve the executable as it's one I customised to reinstate the UDP audio input which had been removed at some point
[14:15] <fsphil> rtty is painful with headphones
[14:16] <fsphil> I'm stuck with an older version of dl-fldigi before the rtty modem changes
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[14:17] <fsphil> don't want to update but it's getting harder to compile
[14:17] <Bidoof> Hi everyone! We have just had a mishap and broken our SDR dongle so could I please ask that people keep tracking Bidoof for us. Thanks
[14:18] <dbrooke> the newer one seems to struggle more with bit sync on some signals
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[14:18] <fsphil> Bidoof: do you have access to another receiver?
[14:18] <Bidoof> I am afraid not.
[14:18] <dbrooke> but the UDP works well with gqrx
[14:19] <fsphil> unless it lands near a receiver you might have trouble pin-pointing its landing location
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[14:19] <Bidoof> We do have an sms tracker that may help but I am not holding my breath.
[14:20] <fsphil> ah, that's something at least
[14:20] <fsphil> they work sometimes
[14:20] <dbrooke> predicted landing is fairly close to me so hopefully I'll get a reasonably low decode
[14:21] <Bidoof> Brilliant thanks dbrooke and fsphil
[14:23] <dbrooke> also I could lend you an rtl sdr (G6GZH on the map) if you want
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[14:26] <Bidoof> dbrooke can we hold that offer unless we struggle to find it?
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[14:28] <PE2BZ> !flights
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Waddesdon School HAB2 10(121b), 03hkSOL4 10(1267), 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[14:28] <PE2BZ> !payload d7f1
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03BIDOOF 10(d7f1) 03$$BIDOOF - 03434.253 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/740Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[14:29] <dbrooke> Bidoof: no problem
[14:33] <PE2BZ> Hi, does anyone else experience problems with dl-fldigi crashing (both 3.21.50 and 3.23.12) after decoding the first bidoof packet? After the first green the fldigi stops updating the waterfall and does no longer respond. If I change the settings (to ascii-7 for example) it keeps running without decodes, but as soon as I set it to autoconfigure or manually to ascii 8 n 2 it decodes one packet and crashes. Reboot of Windows machine
[14:33] <PE2BZ> did not help either.
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[14:34] <dbrooke> switch off saving of ssdv
[14:34] <dbrooke> the big images cause problems
[14:35] <Bidoof> Yeah we put the wrong code line in the wrong place so its sending images that are too large. Sorry about that.
[14:36] <jbayfield> Bidoof: Just want to say that even though it's miles away and there's very little involvement I have with HAB at the moment, there's just something awesome about seeing a balloon register on the map and being tracked by so many stations people have set up. First time I've been following a HAB's journey. Inspiring. :)
[14:38] <PE2BZ> dbrooke thanks a lot !
[14:38] <PE2BZ> Bidoof no problem, I was just wondering why fldigi crashed on me while an hour before I had 2 instances running at 50 bd with no problem.
[14:39] <daveake> Yeah there was a conversation about this earlier
[14:39] <PE2BZ> Sorry about your flight images however :-(
[14:39] <daveake> The huge image size is exposing a bug
[14:39] <garymortimer> It is very cool jbayfield the sum of the parts and would not work without them all
[14:40] <PE2BZ> exposing a bug is always good :-)
[14:40] <Bidoof> jbayfield: The community makes that really special. As a thank you I will share the images via google drive link if we manage to recover it.
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[14:40] <jbayfield> :)
[14:40] <jbayfield> Best of luck with the chase, hope you recover it safely.
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[14:41] <PE2BZ> I missed the history of the highaltitude channel because I decided to reboot Windows. That moment Bill Gates decided to add an update before the reboot. 20 minutes lost ;-)
[14:41] <daveake> Had that on a chase once :/
[14:41] <PE2BZ> reminds me to check the laptop before sunday afternoon :-)
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[14:46] <Bidoof> Just changed laptops
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[14:47] <dbradley> Thanks to all of you guys helping track BIDOOF, great sense of community amongst you guys!
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[14:49] <jbayfield> As someone who wants to help track in the future, I wanted to ask about aerials. I'm starting out with a cheapo USB SDR adapter but obviously in its vanilla form it'll be pretty naff. Any suggestions on making it a little bit less so? (on a relatively tight budget, so that's a factor)
[14:50] <jbayfield> I only mention aerials as I'm assuming that's the way to go with such equipment.
[14:50] <jbayfield> or antennae or whatever you would like to call them!
[14:51] <gonzo_> as a gramma nazi, it would be 'antennas'
[14:51] <gonzo_> but we know what you mean
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[14:51] <gonzo_> an amareut bands collinear is the usual way to go.
[14:51] <gonzo_> amateur
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[14:52] <gonzo_> and a HABAMP is worth looking at, if using something like an RTL dongle
[14:53] <PE2BZ> jbayfiels stationary use or also for mobile ?
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[14:53] <jbayfield> Stationary just for now - I'm not actually building/chasing payloads quite yet
[14:54] <dbrooke> antenna up in the clear is most important
[14:54] <jbayfield> That's the other thing, trying to figure out where to mount it. It's very, very difficult to get roof access here and so the closest thing I've got is putting it in the attic. Would that cause any notable problems or does it really need an outdoor mount somehow?
[14:55] <jbayfield> (please forgive the silly questions, new to all of this in general)
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[14:57] <PE2BZ> How high is the roof and how high could it be in the attic ?
[14:57] <dbrooke> it won't be as good as outdoors at the same height but could be better than being lower
[14:57] <PE2BZ> And what is the roof made of ?
[14:58] <jbayfield> I'll be honest, I couldn't exactly tell you being as young as I am - it's not my house! It's a three storey building anyway so it's probably a "meh" on the height scale
[14:58] <garymortimer> Any receiver is better than no receiver
[14:59] <dbrooke> indoors it should be easy to try DIY with some wire as it won't be subject to wind etc.
[14:59] <kran5> gargrave
[15:00] <jbayfield> dbrooke: Interesting - could you elaborate on what that'd involve? (It's probably really obvious and I'm being ignorant)
[15:01] <dbrooke> something like a typical payload antenna but pointing up, let me find a link
[15:01] <jbayfield> Thanks ^.^
[15:02] <kran5> yes, it is very nice to receive interferences with receiver
[15:02] <kran5> so many different noises ))
[15:03] <PE2BZ> And the possibility of an open (roof) window and the antenna on pvc or wooden stick ?
[15:04] <jbayfield> PE2BZ: We do have a roof window, actually
[15:04] <jbayfield> Didn't really think of that.
[15:04] <dbrooke> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:payload_antenna
[15:04] <jbayfield> dbrooke: Thx
[15:08] <gonzo_> going out to a bit of high ground is an option (if you have any near0
[15:09] <gonzo_> gets you a good view of the horizon and away from localm interference
[15:12] <garymortimer> don't forget you can decode without any hardware at all thanks to two internet radios this one http://radiogeek.co.uk/
[15:13] <garymortimer> and this one http://websdr.suws.org.uk/
[15:13] <Mike-SA6BSS|2> and this http://radiogeek.co.uk/
[15:13] <garymortimer> You will be contributing to the tracking as well. Forgive me if you are already doing this!
[15:14] <garymortimer> you then need a bit of software on your computer
[15:15] <garymortimer> https://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[15:15] <garymortimer> And away you go
[15:17] <fsphil> http://i.imgur.com/2bnDCQh.gifv
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> Decoding without any hardware at all is a very bad idea if you're launching though
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[15:20] <garymortimer> Yes, but fine if you want to practice before you fly fo rno cash out ;-)
[15:20] <garymortimer> You should have your own hardware decoding at your own launch
[15:21] <SpeedEvil> Not reading carefuylly, just that people have tried that, badly.
[15:21] <garymortimer> For sure
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[15:24] <garymortimer> Now back to more important things, I have a very dear and old friend in March and in the past we would have a couple of sweet sherries here https://www.tripadvisor.co.za/ShowUserReviews-g1022656-d10235692-r449723424-Rose_Crown-March_Cambridgeshire_England.html
[15:24] <garymortimer> So that is where I would be waiting for this balloon!
[15:25] <jbayfield> garymortimer: Thanks - I did not know that, I will take a look.
[15:28] <pb0ahx> BIDOOF team mni tnx for nice flights for me
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[15:35] <G8FJG> PE2BZ : Ben antennas down tonight for maintainance.. got to put my weather sensors back up...
[15:37] <fsphil> http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=12
[15:38] <fsphil> lightning just reached the south coast
[15:38] <fsphil> should be sweeping north overnight
[15:40] <G8FJG> Glad my lightning conductor will be luffed over!!
[15:41] <mattbrejza> when the rain hits bournemouth i think tahts a good time to go home before getting wet...
[15:41] <M0JCU> fsphil, thanks for the warning. I'll bring the lightning conductor down as well.
[15:41] <G8FJG> :-))
[15:42] <fsphil> get the camera out :)
[15:42] <M0JCU> I prefer https://www.lightningmaps.org Same data but fancy extras. The sound front when you zoom in is really good (and accurate)
[15:42] <fsphil> don't know how widespread it's going to be
[15:42] <G8FJG> Cant use it hiding under the bed
[15:42] <fsphil> hah
[15:43] <G8FJG> had a direct strike on the antenna once ..scared the sh*t out of me...its very bright and VERY loud
[15:44] <fsphil> ooch
[15:44] <M0JCU> No lightning arrestor on mine. I don't fancy 1000 amps through the radio
[15:44] <G8FJG> scorch marks dont get near it
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[15:45] <fsphil> there's a church not too far from me, it's been struck a few times and the noise is impressive
[15:45] <fsphil> you feel it, the whole house shakes
[15:46] <G8FJG> well , you know what they say...lightning never strikes the same place more than ...a few times
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[15:47] <G8FJG> luffing time ...73
[15:47] <fsphil> cya, 42
[15:48] <kran5> 99
[15:48] <Bidoof> Currently on the way to hopefully retrieve the payload. Thanks for the help. Will update when/if we find it?
[15:48] <G8FJG> 88's look it up
[15:49] <M0JCU> fsphil you should join the Blitzortung network. More stations required in your part of the world
[15:49] <kran5> M0JCU: 99
[15:49] <fsphil> I have a receiver M0JCU, but it started reporting rubbish a while back
[15:49] <edmoore> let's stop saying 99 to each other
[15:49] <fsphil> think there's something interfering it
[15:49] <kran5> edmoore: is it bad?
[15:50] <edmoore> it's noise
[15:50] <M0JCU> Ah. Mine just doesn' report very much. Very good hit rate on the ones it detects but that is only about 3% unless they are close
[15:52] <kran5> i need some beer
[15:52] <edmoore> we in the office just concluded the same
[15:52] <edmoore> thankfully there is a fridge with beer in it in the workshop
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[15:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03yhod_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=yhod_chase
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[15:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[15:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03yl07hxb_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=yl07hxb_chase
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[16:08] <dbrooke> just got a bit of signal from Bidoof so I suspect somebody's found it
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[16:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oops that storm seems to be aiming for me in a few hours time! Time I shut the shack window down!
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[16:15] <Bidoof> We have recovered the payload! Thank you all for your help! We are in the process of grabbing the images and there will be a link shared on here so watch this space.
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[16:17] <SpeedEvil> yay
[16:17] <fsphil> congrats Bidoof :)
[16:19] <jbayfield> Congrats!
[16:19] <dbrooke> nice one, I received a bit of signal briefly so I thought someone had lifted it off the ground
[16:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hkLo1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hkLo1
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[16:27] <daveake> dbrooke: On one of my chases a group of us went after the payload, and my wife stayed behind in my chase car. When we got the payload (half a mile from the car) I called her to say so. "Yeah, I know, I heard the signal change"
[16:27] <daveake> She's getting too good :)
[16:29] <dbrooke> you've trained her well 8-)
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[16:30] <dbrooke> I'd just left dl-fldigi running on the left monitor and noticed the waterfall out of the corner of my eye
[16:35] <dbrooke> 10.7km away according to the tracker, shows how flat the terrain is here as my antenna is about 2m above the gable end on a bungalow
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[16:35] <kran5> shotwave?
[16:36] <kran5> short*
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[17:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK0JKG after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0JKG
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[18:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI6WL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI6WL
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[18:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03XSky3 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XSky3
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[19:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD3T_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD3T_chase
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[19:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STABILOTRON-II - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STABILOTRON-II
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[19:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS8 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS8
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[20:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK3SB-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK3SB-6
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[21:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE8CIF-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE8CIF-11
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[22:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FG 99 VS GP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FG%2099%20VS%20GP_chase
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:42] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[23:42] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(30.48107,-61.03785) at 0313999 meters about 03an hour ago
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