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[00:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IRIS_3_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IRIS_3_chase
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[02:44] <shepkruse> I'm new to launching weather balloons. I have launched 4 and have successfully recovered 3. Until now I have used a spot tracker. How could I be more effective with my tracking method?
[02:46] <shepkruse> Also is there any way to send telemetry such as temperature, altitude, and GPS coordinates, without your radio license?
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[03:31] <Ian_> shepkruse whereabouts in the world are you? USA, UK?
[03:33] <Ian_> Spot is expensive and gives you limited information. if it lands face down then it can be game over.
[03:34] <Ian_> In the UK as radio amateurs are not permitted airborne transmitters,we use 10mW and abide by ISM band rules Ocom IR2030 being the regulating document.
[03:39] <Ian_> Various modes are used, but 50 Baud ASCII RTTY is very popular, requiring a USB capable receiver, ham or SDR (increasingly popular). Also LoRa is being used by an increasing number of fliers. Whilst a proprietary modulation scheme, it does mean that the same small modules cater for both tx and rx functions. Range with both RTTY and LoRa is good, but somewhat reliant upon a netowrk of distributed receivers.
[03:41] <Ian_> Regularly flights throughout the UK are tracked by Dutch amateur radio operators located in the North of Holland/Netherlands.
[03:43] <Ian_> Dig in and have a read, then come back with questions. wiki.ukhas.org.uk
[03:46] <Ian_> In the US it's more APRS with a ham licence. The UKHAS distributed network extends as far east as Poland and slightly beyond and it is surprising just how many regular listeners there are receiving via LoRa gateways or dl_fldigi, both of which are capable of uploading data to the UKHAS Habitat database for tracking. See also habhub.org
[03:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[05:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-2 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-2
[05:59] <PE2BZ> !flights
[05:59] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[07:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GRP005 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GRP005
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[08:53] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(20.48107,-69.03785) at 0313999 meters about 0310 hours ago
[08:53] <Laurenceb> wonder if it will make 1 year airborne
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[08:55] <fsphil> that'd be cool
[09:05] Nick change: Steffann -> Steffanx
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[09:16] <nmcc> The SAFlyers launch on Monday that looked like it ended up in the sea just south of Skegness has been found!
[09:16] <fsphil> oh nice!
[09:17] <nmcc> Staff & students at school estatic, I've got my radio gear & credibility back and the wife is enjoying a drive out in her new-to-her MX5 to collect it
[09:18] <nmcc> Now to figure out the predictions for Sunday's launch!
[09:20] <fsphil> lol
[09:20] <fsphil> hopfully the salt water has been kind
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[10:04] <nmcc> Last two fixes from lostcause & dbrooke put it over the beach heading slightly north due to the lower level winds so it hopefully will have made it to the beach
[10:05] <nmcc> As long as the microSD cards are readable I'll be happy
[10:05] <nmcc> But happier if the kit is re-useable
[10:05] <Vaizki> nmcc, HAB beach-landing luck may have been used up for the next 5 years in the last 6 months?
[10:06] <nmcc> Prediction planning strategy. Bought some lead weight to so I can eliminate the surprise that we are under-weight.
[10:07] <nmcc> Plan for 6m/s but use 5.5. Smaller chute and take 10% off the descent rate
[10:09] <nmcc> Vaizki, after my first flight in an open cockpit glider yesterday, my flying luck piggy bank is now empty!
[10:09] <nmcc> Require 20% of track distance to the sea from the landing point
[10:09] <nmcc> Try 10% less burst altitude
[10:10] <nmcc> And 20% more burst altitude
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[10:20] <BARC> Hi all, has anyone had any issues with the telemetry exporter lately? I am being given the error "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data"
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[10:25] <gonzo__> poss one for #habhub
[10:30] <Vaizki> line 1 column 1.. maybe an empty result? but yea #habhub is the place to be for that
[10:43] <BARC> OK, Ill have an ask in there, cheers guys!
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-1
[11:21] <Laurenceb> !whereis HIRFW-6
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb: 03HIRFW-6 is over 03Inagua, The Bahamas 10(21.48107,-73.03785) at 0313999 meters
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[11:39] <Ian_> From #highaltitude @ [11:20] <BARC> Hi all, has anyone had any issues with the telemetry exporter lately? I am being given the error "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data"
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:40] <Ian_> May have been resolved and so not copied here directly as advised, but a heads up, just in case.
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[12:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CHANGEME after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
[12:37] <Darkside> oh look
[12:37] <Darkside> another person who didn't read the instructions
[12:46] <daey> "Documentation is for other people!"
[12:51] <fsphil> might use that for the callsign on my next flight
[12:52] <fsphil> that or (NULL)
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[12:56] <craag> $$/0
[12:56] <craag> erm $$\0 even
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[13:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8MSJ-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-1
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[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5LCY-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
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[13:53] <PE2BZ> How about $$>RTFM ?
[13:54] <Ian_> Iguess the OP on #highaltitude relised the error. Please don't shoot the messenger, unless of course that might be fun.
[13:56] <Ian_> Ah, CHANGEME ... crossed wires as I struggle with frozen yogurt on a stick, kbd and basic brain operations :)
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[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[14:52] <GTO1> If admin is about could you please approve the flight doc for SB2 - due to fly Saturday. Thanks.
[14:53] <Mike-SA6BSS> I beleve its allready approved
[14:53] <Mike-SA6BSS> paste the doc nr in habhub and see...
[14:56] <GTO1> Yep - it's approved. Thanks.
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[16:09] <dconley> Hey! Looking to get into HAB in the US, so I thought I'd pop in and start learning. I'll be afk for a while, but wanted to join and say hi while I was thinking about it.
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[16:13] <SpeedEvil> dconley: hey
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03the_O_mobile_:-)_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=the_O_mobile_%3A-)_chase
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[17:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KE0GEO-12 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0GEO-12
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[18:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03aman123456_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=aman123456_chase
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[19:54] <arko> is SP6UOB around?
[19:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HF800PT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HF800PT-11
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[20:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
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[20:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RTLS1 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS1
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[21:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STmber_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STmber_chase
[21:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SpaceB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SpaceB_chase
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-S11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-S11
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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