highaltitude.log.20170702

[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD3T_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD3T_chase
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[00:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[04:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[06:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF9IK_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF9IK_chase
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
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[08:43] <Mike-SA6BSS> new update to tt7 blog, a lot of interesting stuff https://tt7hab.blogspot.se/2017/06/
[08:56] <pb0ahx> !flights
[08:56] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03DK0WT 10(5818), 03SP5NVX RTTY APRS_70cm 10(d6ea), 03Leek Launch v2 10(b486), 03Celsius 10(aef4), 03HAB-WL Launch 10(bbf2), 03X116 10(03c6), 03HABKi_02 10(405d)
[08:57] <pb0ahx> !payload bbf2
[08:57] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03HAB-NL 10(bbf2) 03$$HAB-WL - 03Primary mode - 03434.3875 MHz USB 03RTTY 75/530Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[08:57] <PE2BZ> :-) that´s us :-)
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[09:04] <pb0ahx> GM all
[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK0WT after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0WT
[09:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial x116
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial x0
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Latest dials for 03X0 10(03c6): 03644.397 MHz, 434.400436 MHz
[09:12] <g8fjg> X0 for me lora 434.407 rtty 434.401
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[09:16] <pjm> morning, is X0 mode 0 lora?
[09:16] <pjm> i will put my RX on here
[09:19] <daveake> Steve's X0 LoRa has always been mode 0 so far
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[09:20] <pjm> ok thanks
[09:21] Nick change: danielsaul -> danielsaul_alt
[09:22] <G8AFC> Does anyone have an update on the TX frequency for XO ?Nothing heard on 434.405 +/-
[09:24] <PE2BZ> Are you able to try if you can receive LoRa on that QRG ?
[09:24] Nick change: danielsaul_alt -> danielsaul
[09:24] <PE2BZ> 434.401 is mentioned a few lines above for rtty
[09:25] <G8AFC> Thanks all
[09:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SAFlyerL after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAFlyerL
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[09:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-13 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-13
[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SAFlyerR after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAFlyerR
[10:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
[10:16] <DutchMillbt> Hi, the lora settings for X0?
[10:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mode 0
[10:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Explicit, 20.80, SF11, EC4:8 LDRO
[10:18] <DutchMillbt> thankz Geoff
[10:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HAB-WL after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAB-WL
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[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[10:57] <DJ3AK> Last decode from X0 distance to me was 678km :)
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[11:11] <PE2BZ> nice RX Ron ;-)
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[11:13] <PE2BZ> nice RX Ron ;-)
[11:14] <Ron_G8FJG> $$$HAB-WL,213,111022,51.96139,4.33259,1244,25,3.5,10,1479,0,80*6197 caught in low level duct ..big sig
[11:15] <Ron_G8FJG> all gone now
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0CALL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0CALL_chase
[11:18] <Darkside> whoops
[11:18] <Darkside> my bad
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-12
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_chase
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[12:18] <F4GUK> !flights
[12:18] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Current flights: 03DK0WT 10(5818), 03SP5NVX RTTY APRS_70cm 10(d6ea), 03Leek Launch v2 10(b486), 03Celsius 10(aef4), 03HAB-WL Launch 10(bbf2), 03X116 10(03c6), 03HABKi_02 10(405d), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
[12:18] <F4GUK> !dial 5818
[12:18] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Latest dials for 03DK0WT-LoRa 10(5818): none
[12:18] <SpacenearUS> 03F4GUK: Latest dials for 03DK0WT 10(5818): none
[12:32] <Ron_G8FJG> PE2BZ Ben lets see if I can catch it on the way down
[12:32] <Ron_G8FJG> still in and out of noise
[12:33] <Ron_G8FJG> didn't realise I saw it very soon after launch...but thought it just qrm!!
[12:35] <Ron_G8FJG> It's moved quite a way inland , so may not connect to duct
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[13:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF9IK_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF9IK_chase
[13:07] <PE2BZ> Ron launch was at 27 m asl. Balloons where very strange type (3 ft with 3 ft and 1 inch burst diameter. So we decided to give it a go with one filled to 2 ft and one filled to 1.5 ft and tie all together. At just about 6 km the first one bursted, so it´s coming down on the smalles balloon now. Parachute not needed it seems....
[13:07] <SIbot25> In real units: 3 ft = 0.91 m
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TT7F2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TT7F2
[13:16] <Ron_G8FJG> PE2BZ http://i.imgur.com/smJvFtj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Vy1xOQc.jpg about 230km from blue line....so close to green!
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[13:38] <pb0ahx> HAB-WL is recoverd
[13:38] <pb0ahx> experiment wonderfull
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[13:54] <Ron_G8FJG> Hub back on line..for a few minutes
[14:16] <pb0ahx> a Day HAB in nl https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO2pPL0Ts4SlRpwaodTV8fMa_eVZP-y233yWENUkUttsYtQ7TXRsCJHdIOfyXli_g?key=MlZoZl9ieDNXaExRQWRqSVkwRjFJel9LTnROSFd3
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[14:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031969_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1969_chase
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031976_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1976_chase
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[15:04] <Laurenceb_> https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/06/solar-powered-emdrive-version-of-space-battleship-yamato.html
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[15:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL0RA after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0RA
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[16:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HJ4AYB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HJ4AYB-11
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[18:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7SEC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7SEC-1
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[18:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P30 after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P30
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[18:28] <Walrus> Hey guys, any OS X users here who could help me out with FLDigi?
[18:28] <Walrus> :D
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[18:47] <Walrus> Hello :O
[18:48] <SpeedEvil> Hello, and I don't use OSX
[18:49] <fsphil> I have OSX on a machine, but I don't use it :)
[18:49] Action: fsphil isn't very helpful
[18:56] <Walrus> I'm trying to get any signals to go from Gqrx to Dl-Fldigi
[18:56] <Walrus> And I'm suffering hardcore
[18:56] <Walrus> Do you guys use something similar on Windows?
[18:56] <Walrus> Any preferred software? Might just try it there
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[19:14] <daveake> On Windows people either using "VAC" (Virtual Audio Cable) or, sometimes, the MS Sound Mapper works
[19:14] <daveake> On Linux people sacrifice animals to Pulse Audio
[19:14] <daveake> No idea about OSX (like fsphil I have it just don't use it)
[19:15] <daveake> oh dave look to see if the OP has quite before replying ...
[19:15] <daveake> quit
[19:16] <fsphil> whois the walrus
[19:18] <daveake> i am
[19:18] <daveake> not
[19:19] <fsphil> I'm having trouble getting dl-fldigi compiled for fedora 25
[19:20] <fsphil> running into a load of obsure c++ errors
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[19:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hi_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hi_chase
[19:47] <lostcause> vbgyh7
[19:47] <lostcause> t5 vbgyh7
[19:47] <lostcause> u
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[19:50] <KernowHab> Hey! Is there anyone here that could help with GPS and APRS?
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[19:53] <daveake> Maybe. Ask and ye shall find out :)
[19:58] <KernowHab> I have a GPS unit attached to a Arduino which is the brains of my HAB. I'm completely mind boggled on using that GPS data using a APRS unit to track it! Do i plug an APRS unit to the GPS to transmit data to the ground? And if so do i need a license? UK based if that's any help.
[20:10] <LazyLeopard> In the UK you cannot legally transmit APRS from a balloon. However, you can use some frequencies under ISM (Industrial/Scientific/Medical) rules, and the UK HAB community (see https://ukhas.org.uk) has figured ways of getting positions from balloons into the UKHAS tracking system legally in a way that does not require you to have a licence.
[20:10] <LazyLeopard> It just doesn't use APRS.
[20:22] <KernowHab> Thank you! I take it i would only need to transmit from my balloon and not receive any data to track?
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[20:24] <daveake> You can't transmit amateur radio from a balloon over the UK.
[20:25] <daveake> So APRS is (effectively) out
[20:26] <daveake> Almost always, the balloons only transmit, so you need a suitable radio transmitter + GPS receiver + microcontroller + firmware to glue it all together
[20:27] <daveake> For an Arduino, take a look at https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2
[20:28] <daveake> The NTX2 is a small low power radio transmitter, very popular for balloons
[20:28] <KernowHab> Just looked at the ukhas.org website and found the information about it. Now it's just looking at modules to link with my Arduino microcontroller and what will work best.
[20:30] <daveake> NTX2 is a good bet - pretty easy to use, and teaches you a lot about transmitting data over radio
[20:30] <KernowHab> With the NTX2 do you need an external antenna to boost the signal to the ground? Sorry if this seems basic! Whole new world for ,me
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[20:39] <daveake> Yes you always need an antenna; usually it's just a piece of wire of a specific length (tuned to the transmitted frequency)
[20:42] <KernowHab> Ok, thank you! Lots of investigation is need!
[20:56] <daveake> yup!
[20:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS8 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS8
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[21:03] <KernowHab> Do you just use a ham radio to receive the data? That's the idea i'm getting from looking around.
[21:09] <daveake> Most people these days an SDR (way cheaper)
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[21:31] <KernowHab> Wow, they are! chers
[21:31] <KernowHab> cheers*
[21:36] <fsphil> the rtlsdr was a bit of a revolution :)
[21:37] <Vaizki> the wonders of high volume production
[22:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-13 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-13
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:26] <fsphil> spacex at it again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKmWeATngb4
[23:29] <fsphil> no landing
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> Unless things go very wrong.
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> 'I put that code in as a joke'
[23:34] <fsphil> no intentional landing
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> Lovely day there.
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> At the moment anyway
[23:35] <fsphil> yeah nice sunset
[23:35] <SpeedEvil> 3 launches in 9 days!
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[23:35] <SpeedEvil> 120 a year. (no, that's not how it works)
[23:36] <adamgreig> hold hold
[23:36] <fsphil> awww
[23:36] <adamgreig> always so late in the countdown
[23:36] <SpeedEvil> Or not.
[23:36] <adamgreig> that's what you get for clever flight computers i suppose
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[23:37] <fsphil> clock reset to -15 min
[23:38] <adamgreig> boo
[23:38] <SpeedEvil> 'expect it will end our launch attempts for today'
[23:38] <adamgreig> looks like that'l be 3 launches in 10 days
[23:38] <SpeedEvil> I shouldn';t have commented on the 9 days
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> and scrub
[23:39] <fsphil> ah well
[23:40] <adamgreig> who needs gnc anyway
[23:41] <fsphil> is the fuel wasted or do they pump it back out again?
[23:41] <fsphil> "offload propellants"
[23:41] <fsphil> fancy way of saying they pump it out :)
[23:41] <kc2pit> Pretty sure they pump it back out. Dumping that much LOX would be a headache of its own unless you want the entire area to catch fire.
[23:41] <fsphil> hah, true
[23:44] <adamgreig> i suggest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FU0l2JHhGs as an alternative
[23:45] <adamgreig> pretty sure that background music is from the Freelancer opening video too...
[23:45] <adamgreig> oh no it's from spacex's thing
[23:45] <adamgreig> very similar :P
[23:55] <fsphil> love that it goes all 2001 in the last hafl
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