highaltitude.log.20170618

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[00:18] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-6
[00:18] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(3.48107,142.96215) at 0313999 meters about 037 minutes ago
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[04:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[05:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Yellobric_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Yellobric_chase
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[06:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SSR-NR after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSR-NR
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[07:13] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:13] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Breadalbane Maiden 10(6bf1), 03X115 10(766d), 03SP9UOB-P30 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(cbd2)
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[08:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Breadalbane after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Breadalbane
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[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SSR-KM after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSR-KM
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[08:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[09:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS7 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS7
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[09:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Yellobric_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Yellobric_chase
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[09:29] <g8fjg> breadalbane 650 shift
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[09:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P30 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P30
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[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-25 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-25
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[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X1
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[10:48] <Mike-SA6BSS_2> is there any unofficial record of floating Qualtatex?
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[10:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B1 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B1
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[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:50] <F5MVO> Hello, X1=X115 ?
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[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[11:56] <F5MVO> SpacenearUS, hello, X0 is a RS41 modified ?
[11:59] <F5MVO> Hello, X0 is a RS41 modified ?
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[12:05] <Darkside> uh
[12:05] <Darkside> i would have though X0 is one of Steve's
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[12:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:20] <g8fjg> I couldn't decode the rtty on my flex...signal looked really weird!...rlt dongle was fine...very odd
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[12:20] <g8fjg> rtl
[12:21] <g8fjg> cooking bbq for 10 in and out of shack....dont panic
[12:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-13 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-13
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5NVX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5NVX
[12:31] <PE2BZ> Which QRG and mode for LoRa on X0 ?
[12:34] <daveake> It's always been mode 0 before
[12:35] <trickv_> I'm trying to receive X0 as well...getting bursts of about 5 seconds of RTTY, followed by a high tone for 1s, silence for 8s, and a high tone for 2 seconds, and the pattern repeats.
[12:35] <PE2BZ> Thanks Dave. Next time I should configure the LoRa module with the antenna connected, not the one with the dummy load :-)
[12:36] <PE2BZ> Sounds good trickv_ but does fldigi show the text during the 5 seconds rtty ?
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[12:36] <dbrooke> trickv_: your "silence" is when it's sending LoRa
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[12:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
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[12:47] <trickv_> PE2BZ, daveake: thanks. That makes sense, that the pattern is part of the design, I figured it was just pure RTTY given the description in the calendar...
[12:50] <trickv_> I am getting RTTY signal as expected, just not quite clean enough to decode a complete sentence...
[12:50] <PE2BZ> trickv_ http://imgur.com/a/DtSqm there you see the carrier, the RTTY signal, the LoRa signal and then the repeating stuff
[12:50] <PE2BZ> Perhaps you hear clicks in the ¨space between¨ that´s how the LoRa data sounds
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[12:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8MSJ-1 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-1
[12:53] <trickv_> Yeah I hear the clicks too
[12:53] <PE2BZ> From now on, you can call her Lora ;-)
[12:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03byke_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=byke_chase
[13:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB4ELK-4 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB4ELK-4
[13:04] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-6
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(2.48107,142.96215) at 0313999 meters about 035 hours ago
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[13:15] <Guest76153> dial x0
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[13:25] <PE2BZ> It´s !dial x0
[13:25] <PE2BZ> !dial x0
[13:26] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03X0 10(766d): 03434.405292 MHz, 434.65 MHz, 434.4059 MHz, 434.40708 MHz, 434.4058 MHz, 434.557095 MHz, 434.409692 MHz, 434.405308 MHz, 434.40971 MHz
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[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N1YIP-11 after 0325 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1YIP-11
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[13:48] <Ahuddart> Hi all, myself and a number of other university students have been looking to get started with building and launching a HAB, we have purchased a Habduino V4.1 kit but are having a bit of difficulty getting GPS lock.
[13:49] <Ahuddart> The warm signal is blinking at 1 second interval and does not turn green even after being left outside for a good 30 minutes
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[13:53] <adamgreig> Ahuddart: please take a photo of your stuff in-situ
[13:53] <adamgreig> also are you sure it's meant to go solid green, not stay blinking at 1/second?
[13:53] <Mike-SA6BSS_2> Ahuddart: picture of the kit pls http://imgur.com/ is a good place to uplload
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[14:01] <Ahuddart> http://imgur.com/a/ofy9F Photo of kit
[14:03] <Ahuddart> From a quick look at the manual, the red warn LED should be replaced by a green OK LED blinking after GPS lock has been achieved.
[14:04] <PE2BZ> Ahuddart is there any kind of wiring needed to choose between active powered GPS antenna and passive antenna ?
[14:05] <Mike-SA6BSS_2> and you have 5V on the centerconnector supplyimng power to the gps?
[14:06] <Ahuddart> I'm getting 3.2V between the central pin and outer ground
[14:07] <PE2BZ> That´s enough
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[14:07] <PE2BZ> Any chance to test the antenna on different receiver ?
[14:07] <Ahuddart> Sorry I'm quite new to this so am not aware of the differences between active and passive GPS antenna systems
[14:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MARIJA_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MARIJA_chase
[14:08] <Ahuddart> Unfortunately this is the only Habduino I have available.
[14:09] <PE2BZ> Passive antenna does not need / use power supply but has less gain / reception. Active antenna powers the pre amplifier from the receiver. That´s the 3.3 Volt
[14:11] <daveake> Did you choose the right Arduino model / CPU speed when you programmed it ?
[14:14] <Ahuddart> I believe so. I'm using an Arduino Uno with the Arduino/Genuino Uno selected within the Arduino IDE
[14:15] <Ahuddart> Everything else appears to be functioning correctly, 433mhz frequency is in line with that set in the code.
[14:18] <PE2BZ> You have not been online for this topic before, have you ? I seem to recall such a story....
[14:19] <PE2BZ> Where I sent someone out with a 4 cm wire connected to the center of the SMA connector outdoor to prove / check if the external antenna was broken.
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[14:20] <Mike-SA6BSS_2> yeah, a 4.6cm wire in the center of the gps connector will elimintate gps error
[14:21] <Ahuddart> No, wasn't me. I'm willing to give that a try if that solution would work
[14:22] <PE2BZ> It the weather is dry I would give it a try :-)
[14:22] <PE2BZ> 4.6 cm it is
[14:23] <Ahuddart> Would using the stubby 433mhz antenna work or is the exposed length completely wrong?
[14:26] <PE2BZ> Compleeeeeetelyyy wrong. Sorry
[14:26] <daveake> (should be) completely wrong
[14:26] <PE2BZ> A paperclip, cut to length ?
[14:27] <PE2BZ> And if that gives a lock, you may try the 433 MHz stubby. Than you allready proved the RX is setup right.
[14:28] <Ahuddart> Really that simple? I bought some extra coax, would that be more effective?
[14:29] <PE2BZ> Extra coax between the GPS antenna and the GPS connector on the PCB ?
[14:30] <Ahuddart> As in a pigtail like this https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=59
[14:31] <Ahuddart> I could strip off the shielding from the end 46mm
[14:31] <daveake> should work the same
[14:31] <PE2BZ> Really that simple. 71.37 divided by the GPS frequency (1575 MHz) gives the lenght of a quarter wave antenna, which is 0,045 meter
[14:36] <Ahuddart> Perfect, every day is a school day, I've left it outside with the new antenna. Any idea of how long GPS lock typically takes?
[14:36] <adamgreig> <30s
[14:36] <adamgreig> on a bad day a minute or two
[14:36] <adamgreig> how exposed is 'outside'?
[14:37] <adamgreig> like can it see all the sky, or just a patch of it between buildings?
[14:39] <Ahuddart> It's quite an open area, around 30 metres from the nearest building
[14:39] <adamgreig> should be fine
[14:44] <PE2BZ> No happy messages yet....
[14:45] <Ahuddart> unfortunately not, still no lock
[14:46] <Ahuddart> http://imgur.com/a/IM1bN unless I've made a mistake with the antenna.
[14:49] <PE2BZ> That should work. It´s not laying on metal while trying to lock to GPS ?
[14:50] <Ahuddart> Had it lying on a plastic chair.
[14:51] <PE2BZ> If this does not work I would double check daveake ´s recommending for processor speed while programming. I had issues with a lora tracker on arduino spitting out data on the wrong speed on the com port. Was indeed a 8 MHz / 16 MHz setting in the arduino programming tool
[14:56] <daveake> What does the telemetry look like ? Does it have GPS time ?
[14:56] <PE2BZ> And, in the logs I find on this date http://habhub.org/zeusbot/logs_highlighted/highaltitude.log.20170220.html
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Info about the GPS lock problem and the advice to load flextrack and use the serial monitor to see what´s happening.
[14:56] <PE2BZ> I am afk for the potatoes now...
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[15:18] <Ahuddart> Sorry you guys must get constant deja vu with these problems, I haven't got Dl-Fldigi set up to interpret signals, Is it usually for serial monitor output to be nonsensical at all selectable baud rates?
[15:19] <Ahuddart> Can't find anything online about selecting frequency on the Uno, is that something which is done when burning the bootloader?
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[15:24] <dbrooke> burning the bootloader also sets the "fuses" which determine how the hardware operates
[15:25] <dbrooke> but also when you build the software there are timings configured from the board selection
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[15:25] <dbrooke> so both need to be done with the correct board selected
[15:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
[15:27] <dbrooke> it's a while since I used the arduino IDE so I can't recall if it also sets the fuses when you program the board
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[16:00] <DL7AD> dl7ad
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[16:29] <fsphil> ed balls
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[16:46] <LA2k17> Hi. Can anyone tell me what the predicted landing site given on the habhub tracker during a flight is based on? Is it the 5 up 5 down 30000 burst height that CUSF uses>
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO3OCM-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO3OCM-9
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[17:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LA2K17 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LA2K17
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[17:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[21:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[21:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[22:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[23:12] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-6
[23:12] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(1.89774,145.37881) at 0314332 meters about 037 minutes ago
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> aadamson: congrats on the record
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[23:26] <aadamson> which one is that?
[23:26] <aadamson> I don't think it's broken -3's records yet has it
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[23:27] <aadamson> nope still need a week
[23:27] <aadamson> -3 was 277+ days, and -6 is only 271+ as of today
[23:28] <aadamson> but it's going to be tough because of where it is and where it's going :(
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[23:33] <aadamson> Laurenceb__, so thanks, but -6 still needs a week to beat -3 ... lol
[23:33] <Laurenceb__> huh
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[23:33] <Laurenceb__> I thought you said it launched 20 days after?
[23:33] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-3
[23:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03Ouesso, Republic of the Congo 10(1.85607,15.79548) at 033221 meters about 0323 days ago
[23:34] <Laurenceb__> ok 30 days?
[23:34] <Laurenceb__> what gas do they use?
[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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