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[04:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK4BW-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4BW-11
[04:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icarusIV after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icarusIV
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[05:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03shahid_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=shahid_chase
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[07:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hallo _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hallo%20_chase
[08:16] <Darkside> Hallo
[08:16] <Darkside> Salut
[08:16] <PE2BZ> Bonjour
[08:17] <Mike-sa6bss> Godmorgon
[08:17] <PE2BZ> Howdoyoudo
[08:18] <Darkside> g'day
[08:18] <Darkside> still, nobody got the reference
[08:19] <Darkside> https://youtu.be/s9YbICd43Mc?t=21
[08:19] <Mike-sa6bss> Jim carry without looking
[08:20] <PE2BZ> Darkside that would never have crossed my mind ;-_
[08:20] <Mike-sa6bss> nop, dont get it, thinking of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWcZKrP2sDU
[08:20] <Darkside> :P
[08:21] <PE2BZ> But it ´ s the early morning over here ;-)
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[09:31] Nick change: DanielRi1hman -> DanielRichman
[09:31] <fsphil> too early in the morning for europop :p
[09:41] <dbrooke> which will apply until just after 23:59:59 each day (or slightly later if leap second)
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[09:42] <dbrooke> it was one click away from Rick Astley too
[09:44] <fsphil> nah, 23:59:00 at least. always room for a little bit
[09:45] <fsphil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
[09:47] Action: dbrooke wonders if he dare look
[09:48] <fsphil> it's safe :)
[09:48] <fsphil> rick free
[09:51] <dbrooke> well, the "rick free" part is true
[09:51] Nick change: Steffann -> Steffanx
[09:53] <fsphil> lol
[10:14] <gonzo_> it's a shocking time in a man's life, when he realises it's alomost june and there are only 12 xmas puddings in the cupboard
[10:14] <gonzo_> (random observation of the day)
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[10:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FDK-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-4
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[11:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[12:03] <lostcause> all systems looking good for launch today
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[12:07] <PE2BZ> That´s good to hear. All defrosted well ?
[12:08] <lostcause> yep, I defrosted it in the sunlight
[12:09] <lostcause> so that it burned off the condensation
[12:11] <dbrooke> at the risk of telling you something you already know, as I don't know what your actual parameters are, the default prediction looks close to the coast but extra lift will help bring it inland
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[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03POSIUK1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=POSIUK1
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[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:41] <lostcause> thanks dbrooke, yes, I'm planning a little extra lift, it's a question of hight vs lift
[12:42] <lostcause> I'm using a 800g hyokee, payload is 974g (including ropes/parachute etc.)
[12:42] <lostcause> I have 180 cu ft of helium
[12:42] <lostcause> I am planning for a neck lift of 3400g
[12:43] <lostcause> parachute is a little under-sized for a quicker descent, hoping 6.5m/s ascent, 5m/s descent.
[12:43] <lostcause> I expect a height of 2700m
[12:43] <lostcause> actually, a little higher
[12:43] <lostcause> 27000m
[12:44] <PE2BZ> That´s what I call a little ;-)
[12:44] <lostcause> a little what, height?
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[12:44] <PE2BZ> the difference between 2700 and 27000 :-)
[12:45] <lostcause> ah yes...
[12:45] <lostcause> Should get some impressive footage of the coast hopefully!
[12:45] <lostcause> I have planned for a sea landing, payload is top heavy and fairly waterproof
[12:46] <lostcause> Currently have two GPS trackers and a habduino broadcasting...bit nervous about my fill pipe width and the neck size of the balloon, but apart from that, looking under control
[12:46] <bertrik> the launces I was somewhat involved in, had a slightly higher than anticipated final landing speed
[12:47] <bertrik> I think there's a rule of thumb that landing speed is something like half the descent speed at 10 km
[12:48] <lostcause> I'm not sure, I used this site:- https://fruitychutes.com/help_for_parachutes/parachute-descent-rate-calculator.htm
[12:48] <lostcause> and this site to see what kind of impact it would generate: https://www.angio.net/personal/climb/speed.html
[12:53] <bertrik> I'm not an expert, you can mostly ignore me :) , but I think that last link doesn't really apply because it's about free fall
[12:54] <bertrik> even with the higher speed, the payloads for the launches I witnessed were still OK (no broken parts, except perhaps some pieces of antenna on the outside that got bent)
[12:56] <pb0ahx> !flights
[12:56] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03Positive-UK-F1b 10(8ed5), 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
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[13:01] <dbrooke> lostcause: sounds like you've done the sums, so should be a good flight
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[13:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi. Is POSiUK1 planned as a low alt float or high alt pop?
[13:16] <PE2BZ> high als (27 k) pop
[13:16] <PE2BZ> als = alt
[13:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RR thanks
[13:17] <PE2BZ> A swim is included in the trip
[13:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its going to be at the edge of los here, we´ll see
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[13:28] <spookydillow> why is icarusIV on the map and not moving for days on end?
[13:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> testing i would think
[13:29] <spookydillow> Is it necessary to test for so long?
[13:30] <PE2BZ> depends on the purpose of the test. Could be anything from temperature, battery life, image protocol test, upling downlink, software memory leak test
[13:31] <spookydillow> Why not take it to a test site, not the live one. Sorry if this is a dumb question, new to hab.
[13:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i dont think there is a test site?
[13:34] <spookydillow> What are they testing here that couldn't be done elsewhere. A sationary ballon isn't testing the radio link is it?
[13:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sure, payload test, checking upload to server etc.
[13:36] <PE2BZ> There are no dumb questions but testing on the same habhub page as where all is supposed to arrive is the best way. You would not want to prepare a flight and on the launch day have forgotten or errored on the right URL settings.
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[13:39] <daveake> Yeah there's not much point in testing online for long periods unless something's changing - e.g. payload is moving out is running a flight simulation .
[13:41] <spookydillow> Ah ok, I realise theres a lot at stake if the ballon setup fails. I hope icarus IV flies for longer than its been tested when it finaly gets off the ground.
[13:42] <Nettles> https://www.twitch.tv/kirrust 4 minutes to launch
[13:42] <Nettles> didn't know if it'd been linked here or not, so, there it is
[13:44] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> Thanks!
[13:44] <PE2BZ> Nettles is that the posiuk1 flight ?
[13:44] <Nettles> yeah
[13:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Nettles very nice, thanks for the link. My browser said the stream is PG rated, so is it safe to watch? :-)
[13:44] <Nettles> yep, they have kids there
[13:44] <Nettles> :p
[13:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[13:44] <PE2BZ> Thanks !
[13:45] <PE2BZ> Someone is laying in the shadow of the balloon ;-)
[13:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like thay are ready to go
[13:46] <PE2BZ> +1 for the camera ¨guy¨
[13:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah very good video
[13:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no radio downlink, its not updating anymore?
[13:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh there we go
[13:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> G6GZH got it :-)
[13:49] <PE2BZ> I can release my breath....
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[13:51] <Nettles> I did link the stream a bit late, you missed the moment where it attempted to take off along with the bottle of water they'd tied it to and they all had to grab it
[13:52] <PE2BZ> Perhaps better ;-)
[13:52] <PE2BZ> The first minute without receiver was bad enough ;-)
[13:57] <lostcause> couldn't tune in as I was busy trying to rescue our drone which had disappeared out of range
[13:57] <lostcause> seems to be out of range of my diamond x50 already, wow there's a lot of wobblyness on the signal, I Guess that's normal?
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[13:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lostcause its the elevation, the x50 is not good at high elevation, it will get better as the elevation drops down
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[14:00] <PE2BZ> How do you use an x50 on a car ?
[14:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i got the same "problem" with my GP9
[14:00] <lostcause> no x50 is at launch site
[14:00] <lostcause> getting a signal but can't decode it
[14:00] <lostcause> we have a chase car, but they haven't marked their location yet I think
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[14:00] <PE2BZ> what´s the distance between launch site and location ?
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[14:01] <lostcause> can you see that on the tracker map?
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[14:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> they are made for max gain at low angle, since there use it normaly for ground opperation.
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[14:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it=is
[14:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.111 is nice and clear here, no qrm
[14:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03posi-chase1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=posi-chase1
[14:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ could you supply a dial when its in range of you?
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[14:04] <Ron_G8FJG> 434.114 for 1khz centre
[14:04] <PE2BZ> Off course. I¨ll ask pb0ahx if he catches him first. I have ¨some trouble¨ with the rx
[14:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Ron_G8FJG thanks
[14:05] <fsphil> x50 at the launch site should still be hearing it even with higher elevation
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[14:06] <PE2BZ> $$POSIUK1,612,14:06:15,52.644504,0.173314,6521,9,26,2880,00*7A5F
[14:06] <lostcause> must be a receiver problem because I'm getting a better signal from a cheap £10 antenna inside the vehicle
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[14:07] <PE2BZ> 434.111.12 on the dial of the Icom 7000 with the V2000 omnidirectional
[14:07] <lostcause> chase car are seeing it fine they tell me
[14:07] <fsphil> nothing to worry about then
[14:15] <dbrooke> I'm losing the occasional string, probably due to high angle null in my antenna, 28° elevation at 20km range, but the launch site did lose it while it should still have had a good signal
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[14:21] <PE2BZ> lostcause had a problem last week with the sma connector from the cable to the diamond. It fell off and we tried to remotely get it fixed. Could be that the center pin is not far enough out of the connector.
[14:21] <PE2BZ> However, luckily the chase car gets the signal !
[14:21] <fsphil> possible
[14:21] <PE2BZ> And a lot of amateurs around
[14:22] <lostcause> I'm abandoning base and heading off to the beach...I'll keep irc on the mobile
[14:22] <fsphil> still too low for here
[14:22] <PE2BZ> Don´t forget swimwear and sun oil ;-)
[14:23] <fsphil> at least there will be fish and chips, no matter what happens :)
[14:23] <fsphil> mmm
[14:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lostcause you need to hurry, its moving pretty fast :-)
[14:23] <fsphil> hmpf, my radio pi is offline
[14:23] <PE2BZ> fish and chips... Nice dinner suggestion :-)
[14:26] <fsphil> that landing prediction
[14:26] <fsphil> tis a bit close :)
[14:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it sure is
[14:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but when i did my launch it landed 80km off the prediction
[14:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so anything can happen
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[14:29] <Ron_G8FJG> OZ1SKY_Brian : there was some nice tropo across north sea this morning, you might get it early
[14:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the payload looked big, whats in it ?
[14:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Ron_G8FJG sounds good, i tried to check the beacons, but didnt hear any PA/G
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[14:30] <Nettles> what's in it > not enough address cards/stickers, but maybe they're not as fragile as the planes my granddad used to fly...
[14:31] <PE2BZ> No ET phone home sticker ?
[14:31] <PE2BZ> Preferred waterproof ;-)
[14:32] <PE2BZ> Habitat caught unmergable error every now and then.
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[14:48] <fsphil> boo, my radio pi's sd card seems to have died
[14:49] Action: PE2BZ feels sorry for fsphil
[14:49] <pb0ahx> snif snif
[14:49] <fsphil> oh it's burst anyway
[14:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh bummer
[14:49] <PE2BZ> Happened to pb0ahx also twice. Then we switched to Sandisk SD card
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[14:50] <fsphil> this was Transcend branded
[14:51] <PE2BZ> That´s also a reliable brand.
[14:52] <Nettles> did it just come down in a forest?
[14:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its not down yet
[14:52] <PE2BZ> It´s still at 16 km height
[14:53] <Nettles> ah, time for it to work itself deeper into the trees then
[14:54] <fsphil> prediction atm isn't too bad
[14:54] <fsphil> apart from MoD Sculthorpe
[14:54] <fsphil> looks like runways
[14:55] <Nettles> maybe it'll come down in sandringham and they'll have to knock on the door and ask the queen for their balloon back...
[14:55] <PE2BZ> It´s a RAF base, looking for target practising
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Nice and stable signal
[14:56] <fsphil> wiki page suggests it's a pretty inactive bad
[14:56] <fsphil> base*
[14:58] <PE2BZ> Long abandoned with photo´s http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/photo-gallery-inside-the-long-abandoned-raf-sculthorpe-1-3476244
[14:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> The airfield is currently (2016) being used by the USAF 352nd SOG, based at RAF Mildenhall, to perform training in low flying, airdrops, and rescue & recovery missions
[15:00] <fsphil> prediction is moving away from it anyway
[15:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah
[15:02] <pb0ahx> POSIUK1 team mni tnx for flight was anice one for me
[15:02] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian could that mean that there is also TX equipment operational ?
[15:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ where?
[15:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> at the airfield?
[15:05] <PE2BZ> On that airfield ? When tropo is active I receive P25 (decoded) base station at 404.525 and scrambled air traffic at 2 ¨talk channels¨
[15:05] <PE2BZ> And that base corresponds with my antenna direction
[15:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> if its not opperationel i would not think so, but could be some remote rigs there in case of an EMG.
[15:06] <PE2BZ> green at 2876 meter
[15:06] <PE2BZ> Tropo :-)
[15:07] <PE2BZ> and at 2653 meter ( -0.7 elevation )
[15:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> fb
[15:08] <PE2BZ> $$$$$POSIUK1,881,15:07:30,52.860541,0.597974,1533,7,-2,2683,00*4773
[15:08] <PE2BZ> 1533 meter !
[15:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice landingsite
[15:11] <PE2BZ> They can send the drone in advance to the last GPS location :-)
[15:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah :-)
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[15:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 039049472585_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=9049472585_chase
[15:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> wondering about all those clash of trees in the fields, if they could be old ww2 bombcraters, since its close to that airport.
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[15:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> allmost every firld near by got one
[15:21] <PE2BZ> Could be a good guess !
[15:22] <PE2BZ> posi_chase1 First the payload, then the pub !
[15:23] <dbrooke> hmm, the alternative maps aren't working for me in the tracker
[15:24] <PE2BZ> Like satellite and so on ?
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[15:24] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: AFAIK the only P25 in UK is the USAF at Mildenhall, Lakenheath and Croughton
[15:25] <dbrooke> satellite is OK but none of the others
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[15:26] <PE2BZ> Mildenhall also corresponds to antenna direction :-)
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[15:27] <dbrooke> ah Ordnance Survey loaded while I wasn't looking, must just be very slow for some reason
[15:28] <PE2BZ> And Lakenheath also kind of close.
[15:28] <dbrooke> Lakenheath is also close to Mildenhall
[15:28] <dbrooke> hah 8-)
[15:28] <PE2BZ> http://www.pe2bz.nl/hamradio/skymonitor/rtlTest_power.png
[15:29] <dbrooke> most likely one of those, Croughton is Northamptonshire (further West)
[15:29] <PE2BZ> There, at 404.525 you see the P25 signal. The wider the line the stronger the signal. The improved signal of the P25 signal corresponds with the increasing strenght of POSIUK1 at heights lower as 3000 meter
[15:30] <PE2BZ> I am af cooking :-)
[15:30] <PE2BZ> tnx for info !
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[15:36] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: I just found a public source which confirms on page 20: http://www.project25.org/images/stories/ptig/P25_Trunking_Systems_List_REV_03_June_2016__160518.pdf
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[15:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
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[15:42] <dbrooke> fsphil: I had an SD card in a Pi which was fine for months until I rebooted for a kernel update whereupon it booted back up in a state of several weeks earlier
[15:43] <dbrooke> luckily I spotted it before my backup snapshots had rotated out so I didn't lose anything
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[15:44] <dbrooke> but I can write and read large amounts of data to the card which all gets cached while it remains mounted but disappears if unmounted/remounted
[15:52] <lostcause> Thanks to all! Mission success! Payload recovered :)
[15:56] <dbrooke> hope you got some good pictures
[15:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lostcause congrats
[16:02] <fsphil> congrats
[16:02] <fsphil> easy recovery?
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[16:49] <PE2BZ> dbrooke thanks !
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[17:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO3OCM-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO3OCM-9
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[17:49] <PE2BZ> http://131.180.123.9:8075/ at 433.227 I hear those voices :-)
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[18:00] <DL7AD> are there already any plans for the conference this year?
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[18:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LA2K17 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LA2K17
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[19:07] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-3
[19:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03Ouesso, Republic of the Congo 10(1.85607,15.79548) at 033221 meters about 032 days ago
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[19:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[19:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS6
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[19:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7LQK-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7LQK-11
[20:12] Nick change: en4rab_ -> en4rab
[20:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5GD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5GD-11
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[21:08] <aadamson> Laurenceb_, as you can see it finally came to an end. 277 days, just cleared 9 months. Now we'll wait 20 some odd more days and see if -6 experiences similar results.
[21:09] <aadamson> I'm not ready to say weather just yet. While there was some in the area, it has survived much worse. More likely some sort of envelope failure is my current guess
[21:09] <aadamson> The solar panels were still lit fully with sun and while telemetry was sparse, it didn't have wild voltage swings as if it were in weather.
[21:14] <lostcause> had virtually no phone signal, just got back to base after a swim in the sea and fish and chips :)
[21:14] <lostcause> checking if we got any footage now...
[21:14] <Micke-sa6bss> was watching it fall, it really took all day for it to come down to 3000m
[21:18] <Laurenceb_> aadamson: yeah it's very interesting
[21:19] <Laurenceb_> we need a v highly instrumented floater,with some sort of ice sensor :P
[21:19] <Laurenceb_> I was looking at the descent rate plots for Leos failures
[21:19] <aadamson> yeah, my guess Micke-sa6bss is/was a slow leak of some sort. May have just been enough that it lost super pressure over time
[21:20] <Laurenceb_> well Leo had some similar lookingfailures
[21:20] <aadamson> it was down to 9km when propagation started to work, and from there until just about sundown it went from there to 3km. I never really saw a positive rate so again why I don't think it was weather
[21:20] <Laurenceb_> yeah weather is almost always more erratic
[21:21] <Laurenceb_> some of Leos mechanical failures looked similar
[21:21] <aadamson> yes, and it wasn't a full coverage storm so it would have *dried* out, but I never saw that
[21:21] <aadamson> yeah UV may make seams brittle over time. who knows... :)
[21:21] <aadamson> time to put a test out in the environment and see what happens over it's life
[21:22] <aadamson> but -6 will be a good second test as it's only 20 days or so shorter in duration
[21:23] <Laurenceb_> next plan: smear them with sun block cream
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[21:24] <Laurenceb_> or more practically: use one ofthe UV treatments used for glasses
[21:24] <Laurenceb_> !whereis UBSEDS24
[21:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03UBSEDS24 was over 03Kuytunsky District, Irkutsk Oblast, Russia 10(54.76645,101.86694) at 0313615 meters about 0316 days ago
[21:25] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-6
[21:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-6 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(43.60607,173.21215) at 0313665 meters about 032 hours ago
[21:25] <Laurenceb_> yay
[21:26] <Micke-sa6bss> !whereis BSS6
[21:26] <SpacenearUS> 03Micke-sa6bss: 03BSS6 is over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(43.14583,-161.625) at 0310400 meters
[21:31] <lostcause> talk more tomorrow, going to bed goodnight!
[21:33] <Laurenceb_> !whereis AHUGEPOTOFGOLD
[21:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: I haven't got a clue
[21:34] <Laurenceb_> aadamson: you should submit to arhab records
[21:34] <Laurenceb_> duration record: annihilated
[21:37] <Micke-sa6bss> probably distance as well
[21:37] <Micke-sa6bss> to the moon and back :)
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[21:49] <aadamson> Laurenceb_, yeah I'll do that... And -6 at least has the published distance record... -3 was so sporadic I never knew where it was day over day. -6 reported every day but *3*. Just missed one the other day
[21:49] <aadamson> ah did -6 break 720k km?
[21:50] <aadamson> wooo hoo, lets see did we come back from the moon finally (off to calc some data)
[21:51] <aadamson> nope so close, needs to be > 768,800 km
[21:53] <aadamson> sheesh and I lose count, I think this is finishing it's 18th lap, to start its 19th
[21:53] <Laurenceb_> its a pity the same rate is so low for altitude
[21:53] <Laurenceb_> also the altitude rounding :S
[21:53] <Laurenceb_> for B64 I managed to process the data to get fairly low noise float density data
[21:54] <Laurenceb_> doesnt look so feasible for HIRFW-3
[21:54] <aadamson> yeah, well, get ww coverage, lose precision, no way around that for using WSPR
[21:54] <aadamson> oh yeah, -3 would be MIA for 2 weeks at a time
[21:54] <Laurenceb_> in theory difference between day and night might give info on envelope UV damage
[21:54] <Laurenceb_> yellowing and stuff
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[22:08] <g8fjg> PE2BZ : are you around ben
[22:12] <g8fjg> receiving your LoRa mode2 ssdv , and telemetry....432.625 first time ....well done
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[22:17] <g8fjg> 655+ image packets ...images 11-15 so far ....140 telemetry packets..
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[22:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AKTESTCAR_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AKTESTCAR_chase
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[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:23] <SpeedEvil> http://www.spacex.com/gallery/2008-0
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