highaltitude.log.20170525

[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03POSIUK1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=POSIUK1
[00:00] <Ian_> :)
[00:01] <lost_cause> yay!
[00:01] <lost_cause> it calls it a vehicle?
[00:02] <adamgreig> haha idk why
[00:02] <adamgreig> all looks OK
[00:02] <lost_cause> nice
[00:03] <lost_cause> what is the 20km blue circle mean/for?
[00:04] <Ian_> A space craft is also referred to as a vehicle in common parlance
[00:04] <lost_cause> cool
[00:08] <lost_cause> ok so looking good for a launch on Saturday, CAA has given exemption, all systems are go.
[00:10] <lost_cause> thanks again for all the help here...I'll be back
[00:10] <lost_cause> goodnight.
[00:11] <Ian_> Gn:)
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[01:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS6
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[03:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[07:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Soton_FS after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Soton_FS
[07:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7BR-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7BR-11
[07:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ7ACP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
[07:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[07:35] <PE2BZ> !payload Soton_FS
[07:35] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Soton_FS_Payload 10(d537) 03$$Soton_FS - 03Primary - 03434.212 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/450Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[07:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial soton_FS
[07:40] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03Soton_FS_Payload 10(d537): none
[07:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> I can see them in 434.250 using 300baud 730Hz 8n
[07:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> but only partial decodes at the moment
[07:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial d537
[07:45] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03Soton_FS_Payload 10(d537): none
[07:45] <PE2BZ> That´s not close to the given QRG and mode ?
[07:45] <PE2BZ> Good morning by the way ;-)
[07:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes its way out nothing like the flight doc info :-(
[07:46] <PE2BZ> I´m back in 5 mins.... Re- moving the kiwi sdr to a wifi outdoor location for testing.
[07:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> and why people use 300baud ? they don't want to receive data perhaps ?
[07:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial d537
[07:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03Soton_FS_Payload 10(d537): 03434.251104 MHz
[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTAFLIGHT after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOTAFLIGHT
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[07:51] <PE2BZ> No SSDV either...
[07:57] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: Means you can get more science data down
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[08:02] <daveake> This one is only sending GPS and V.I though
[08:02] <craag> huh ok fair. Maybe they're testing how well 300bd works
[08:03] <daveake> :)
[08:08] <Darkside> we used to fly 300 baud all the time...
[08:08] <Darkside> but i guess we were using 25mW
[08:12] <gonzo_> I suspect that many uarts in microcintrolers only go down to 300bd
[08:13] <gonzo_> I find that 50bd, the horizon is the limit, but at 300, I struggle to get decodes on anything at any dx
[08:17] <PE2BZ> gonzo_ you know you can (have to) set the receive filter bandwidth to a higher value for 300 bd ?
[08:19] <gonzo_> yep, I usually tweak the filter setting depending on sig strength. Though with the newer tx modules, being more stable, can stay narrow most of the time
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[08:20] <gonzo_> on about 400hz at the mo, but it's real strong
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[08:26] <Jordan_> Hello guys!
[08:29] <PE2BZ> Good morning.
[08:29] <PE2BZ> gonzo_ I have to wait some more to see how strong it is ...
[08:32] <Jordan_> Good Morning! During a test flight yesterday I noticed that without the right 4g connection. My LoRa gateway did not upload the images onto the SSDV website. I wondered whether there is a way to play with this manually and essentially "turn off" uploading of images to SSDV as I can recieve them locally as JPEG files anyway.
[08:34] <PE2BZ> enable_habitat = N in the gateway configuration ?
[08:34] <daveake> RTFM applies :-) https://github.com/PiInTheSky/lora-gateway
[08:35] <daveake> EnableSSDV=N
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[08:52] <PE2BZ> Soton intended to float ?
[08:54] <gonzo_> just faded out quite deeply, a null in the antenna?
[08:59] Nick change: Matthias -> matthias
[09:03] <gonzo_> quite a gentel descent. A two balloon system?
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[09:08] <LA2K17> ?
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[09:14] <kokey> I need some ideally adjustable shelving for my garage
[09:15] <gonzo_> ebay is your friend
[09:15] <kokey> ah yeah, just saw
[09:15] <kokey> and some argos
[09:16] <gonzo_> there are loads of places selling the slot together racking with mdf shelves, which is not that bad.
[09:16] <gonzo_> I have lots
[09:16] <kokey> I can't drill into the walls or anything, I was hoping to find some wire shelving or other metal something
[09:17] <kokey> it could be mdf really as long as it has a steel frame I think
[09:18] <gonzo_> this stuff is freestanding, and supprisingly strong: 170775016680
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[09:20] <gonzo_> there seemed to be (when I brought mine) 300mm and 450mm depths
[09:20] <kokey> oh, yes, that sort is solid
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[09:22] <gonzo_> think I brought 16 sets in the end
[09:22] <gonzo_> (lots of carp to store!)
[09:22] <gonzo_> they are also useful, as a half height rack, on top of a workbench, to put test kit on etc
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[09:25] <kokey> haha
[09:26] <kokey> yeah I'll be heading in that direction if we get a house with a workshop some day
[09:27] <kokey> ok at least lots of dig through on ebay, I want to see if I can find something that I can fit some Ikea Samla transparent crates onto tightly
[09:32] <kokey> ok might have to drop the ikea crate idea, I've only got about 5 or 6 of them to make a plan with I could find crates that fit these better
[09:32] <kokey> they all seem to be about the same dimensions
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[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA-T after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-T
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[10:02] <gonzo_> pretty much lost the soton hab now
[10:03] <gonzo_> there but too weak to decode
[10:09] <gonzo_> are they chasing it?
[10:09] <gonzo_> (and will they upload?)
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[10:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03POSIUK1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=POSIUK1
[10:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4BW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4BW-11
[10:35] <lost_cause> Morning all
[10:36] <lost_cause> Can I ask annoying windows sound question...at the moment I have to have the sound blaring in my headphones for fldigi to pick it up. Is there a way to mute the sound but still have it detected in fldigi if you see what I mean?
[10:42] <daveake> You can use a "virtual audio cable" to route the sound from SDR software to dl-fldigi, so it doesn't go anywhere near your regular sound device
[10:43] <daveake> See "Decoding the payload" in https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:sdr_tracker
[10:43] <lost_cause> ah right, cool, forgot about that, I'll try it thanks very much
[10:46] <lost_cause> reboot time...
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[10:51] Nick change: matthias -> Matthias
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[11:06] <lost_cause> sorted
[11:07] <lost_cause> How would I get my flight appearing on the planned / upcoming flights on habhub?
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC4 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
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[11:14] <F5MVO> Hello, i search a link for Epsom ballon picture ?
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[11:23] <Micke-sa6bss> lost_cause: http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
[11:24] <Micke-sa6bss> fill out the flight document and paste the number it generates on #habuhub channel
[11:24] <Micke-sa6bss> * #habhub
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:35] <PE2BZ> !dial BARC4
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03BARC4 10(8d9e): 03434.65 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.44997 MHz, 434.4501 MHz
[12:28] <daveake> lost_cause: Other than the tracker/tracking, all set for the launch this weekend ?
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[12:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[12:50] <gonzo_> these barc payloads must have an odd antenna pattern
[12:50] <gonzo_> far weaker than it was at lower alt
[12:51] <gonzo_> unless I have some odd refraction issue going on here
[12:51] <gonzo_> my collinear pattern is not that sharp
[12:51] <PE2BZ> Almost had no problems between 17 and 34 km height on my collinear and my vertical 7 elements yagi
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[13:07] <lost_cause> daveake I think so yes, a lot is going to depend on the weather...
[13:07] <lost_cause> some predictions put it in the sea...
[13:07] <daveake> so got the notam in progress, gas ordered, filler made etc etc etc etc ?
[13:07] <lost_cause> Helium should be delivered today...actually, that's a good point...where's that....
[13:08] <lost_cause> NOTAM has been requested today (CAA exemption already granted)
[13:08] <daveake> cool
[13:08] <lost_cause> payload I still haven't decided exactly on how/what I'm going to use. I launched something in the USA arizona desert and used a thermal lunch box (soft thing) and it worked well but it's a bit small and may not be good in the sea
[13:10] <lost_cause> That used a satellite spot thing, not radio, but we recovered it well enough, and I could simply reuse that. On the other hand, it's a bit small and I could hack together some polystyrene and duck tape into a more traditional box
[13:10] <daveake> OK cool so you've done most of this before then
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[13:10] <lost_cause> Used a cheap chinese go pro rip off camera, and the video is pretty good (but forgot to clear the SD card so only got the first 30 mins)
[13:11] <lost_cause> just the once yes, and it went remarkbly well (so possibly given me false confidence)
[13:11] <lost_cause> that was a 1000g balloon, this time I'm using 800g, although don't expect that'll make a lot of difference to the experience.
[13:12] <lost_cause> I have spare helium and some foil balloons, so am also considering what kind of pico I might be able to come up with in the next day or two maybe.
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[13:13] <lost_cause> But all this radio stuff is new to me, been a bit of a learning process the past few days. It seems simple once you have done it and understood it, but coming in blind there was a lot to get my head around.
[13:13] <lost_cause> I hadn't heard of SDRs or RTTY etc.
[13:14] <lost_cause> Been a lot of help in here though so that's been great.
[13:15] <lost_cause> Managed to get a raspberry pi up and running doing rtl-tcp over the network which is cool.
[13:15] <daveake> Yeah I have one here doing that. Not tried it on a flight yet.
[13:16] <lost_cause> Things I am suprised (slightly) by are: a) No application that combines the tuner and the rtty in one? and b) no rtl-tcp app for ipad/iphone
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Airspy server also supports the dongle and uses much lesser bandwidth as rtl_tcp by the way
[13:24] <PE2BZ> tuner and rtty would not be the problem , software like SDR console V2 implements both the use of the rtl-sdr and rtty decoding. However, upload of the received data to habhub is not implemented.
[13:30] <lost_cause> ah right, yes there's that too
[13:30] <lost_cause> (Helium just arrived, phew)
[13:31] <cm13g09> lost_cause: Well, it was going to be floating around somewhere..... wasn't it?
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[13:32] <cm13g09> (bad pun, sorry)
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[13:37] <lost_cause> Yeah, I was getting a bit light headed thinking about it. (do I win for even worse pun)
[13:40] <lost_cause> so my laptop battery lasts 30 minutes running the airspy...hmmmm, need to think about that now...
[13:41] <cm13g09> lost_cause: If you weren't aware, this channel can end up full of pundemonioum.....
[13:41] <cm13g09> pundemonium....even
[13:41] <lost_cause> it's high time I became aware of it I guess.
[13:41] <gonzo_> but you will get your fill of it
[13:41] <cm13g09> gonzo_: Thank you.... ;)
[13:42] <gonzo_> well, if anyone would......
[13:42] <lost_cause> Best not to make a HABit of it I suppose.
[13:43] <cm13g09> Best not get carried away with these puns.....
[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03u3s11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=u3s11
[13:43] <cm13g09> Could balloon into a serious problem....
[13:43] <gonzo_> just rise above it
[13:43] <craag> don't inflate the situation
[13:44] <cm13g09> craag: Thank you :/
[13:44] Action: fsphil pops in
[13:44] <gonzo_> we need a pun-bot, to warn us whe we are recycling old pun topics
[13:44] Action: cm13g09 should not have started this.....
[13:44] <gonzo_> reealy should have known netter
[13:44] <gonzo_> better
[13:45] <craag> you've gotta wait til it bursts now cm13g09
[13:45] <cm13g09> gonzo_: I thought I might get away with it in the middle of the day....
[13:45] <cm13g09> Clearly not
[13:45] <lost_cause> whatever floats your boat I guess.
[13:45] <gonzo_> nope, my pun-dar is always watching
[13:45] <gonzo_> you're sunk now
[13:47] <fsphil> oh buoy
[13:47] <lost_cause> so I'm curious on the habhub map, there are rings around balloons, I assume something to do with transmission range? How is that worked out?
[13:49] <daveake> Payload's height above sea level
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WMSIHAB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WMSIHAB
[13:49] <lost_cause> ah simple enough, and I presume an average/standard tramission power?
[13:53] <craag> it's done on observed angle - outer ring is payload at 0 degrees (horizon) from an observer
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[13:53] <craag> at the inner ring the payload is 5 degrees above the horizon
[13:53] <lost_cause> ah I see
[13:54] <craag> well set up stations can often receive at outer and slightly beyond
[13:54] <craag> if you don't hear it within the inner, you might want to check your connections and such - basically :)
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[14:07] <lost_cause> so I notice this on the ukhas wiki, and I haven't got much clue what it means "Use an RP-SMA plug on the aerial, and an SMA socket on the tracker. This is advanced failure mode, and everything will look OK before launch, but you will notice (with delight) that your tracker's signal disappears within seconds of the launch"
[14:08] <russss> RP-SMA is a different type of connector which is used on WiFi antennas for regulatory reasons
[14:08] <lost_cause> is there a chance I have/will do this? Not having done anything like this before?
[14:08] <fsphil> sadly it's quite easy to do
[14:09] <russss> the centre pin is in the "wrong" part of the connector, so if you mate an SMA plug with an RP-SMA socket then you don't actually make a connection
[14:09] <russss> they are otherwise mechanically identical
[14:09] <fsphil> but they fit together just fine, just to trick you
[14:09] <lost_cause> ouch, that sounds bad...
[14:09] <russss> so, just make sure that one side of your connection has a centre pin.
[14:10] <fsphil> they're the star-trek evil universe versions of the connectors. should have a goatee
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[14:10] <russss> RP-SMA is an extremely silly thing, which is intended to slightly inconvenience consumers who want to boost the power of their wifi AP by putting a higher-gain antenna on it
[14:10] <lost_cause> ah ok so as long as it has a pin, it's not like the pin is too short or something then
[14:11] <russss> same size pin, on the opposite-gender connector
[14:11] <PE2BZ> You could share images if you want to be shure
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[14:11] <lost_cause> ok let me look thanks
[14:11] <russss> with normal SMA, the connector with the *inside* thread has a pin
[14:12] <russss> it's super easy to buy the wrong SMA stuff on eBay because people label their listings wrong and sometimes even have the wrong images.
[14:12] <fsphil> I keep a few adaptors around just in case
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[14:14] <Jordan_> Guys my LoRa transmissions cut out at 25 km today :( Anyone got any ideas?
[14:15] <mattbrejza> got any payload photos?
[14:16] <lost_cause> Hmm, and I just unscrewed my main x50 coax from my USB dongle and the wire/pin came away from the whole connector :/
[14:17] <PE2BZ> Your USB dongle does have an SMA female and what wire was connected to the X50 ?
[14:18] <lost_cause> it was a long cable that goes outside, has BNC on the ariel end and some kind of sma inside, but now I've fiddled with it, suddenly my signal is many times louder/clearer!
[14:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
[14:19] <PE2BZ> photos please....
[14:20] <Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vE2AnwJ2Qs
[14:20] <Laurenceb_> control problems are hard :-/
[14:21] <Laurenceb_> insanely impressive first attempt tho
[14:21] <adamgreig> video downlink is hard :P
[14:22] <adamgreig> have they said what happened to second stage beyond "didn't reach orbit"?
[14:22] <Laurenceb_> well re-entered Iguess
[14:23] <adamgreig> well yes :p but why I mean
[14:23] <Laurenceb_> control issues
[14:23] <Laurenceb_> insufficient delta v due to off axis pointing followed by fuel slosh leading to cut out
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[14:24] <Laurenceb_> 1st stage roll seems to be deliberate
[14:24] <Laurenceb_> I mean it's nice and consistent, but a bit odd
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[14:37] <lost_cause> Pe2BZ were you asking me for photos?
[14:38] <PE2BZ> lost_cause indeed, how do they wire an x-50 to an sma connector ?
[14:38] <lost_cause> Well you can have a laugh at my photos anyway https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rcvj3p95fi2t142/AADU6fWDfiUbmHHU0M87pko_a?dl=0
[14:39] <lost_cause> is that link working to see the photos?
[14:39] <PE2BZ> yes
[14:40] <lost_cause> Yeah so that's a cable I bought to connect to the x50 the other end has BNC
[14:40] <lost_cause> in this instance it's not connected to my airspy as I'm saving that for the chase car (although 30 minute battery is a concern)
[14:41] <lost_cause> clearly that needs to be somehow re-crimped or something, but I'm doubting I have time/tools/ability to sort this in the next day.
[14:41] <PE2BZ> So that´s a good SMA male connector, however the shield is not crimped well enough and on image 152135 you (at least we) can tell that the center pin is not out far enough. You have to push the connector further on the cable
[14:41] <PE2BZ> Do you have a soldering iron ?
[14:42] <lost_cause> yep
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[14:43] <PE2BZ> If you remove the shrink tube do you see copper wire or the isolation of the cable ?
[14:43] <lost_cause> ok I'll take another look hang on
[14:43] <PE2BZ> ( the shrink tube between your thumb and finger on image 3 of 4)
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[14:46] <lost_cause> ok so it appears to be like a solid metal tube, does that make sense?
[14:48] <PE2BZ> Yes, that´s pressed between the cable isolation and the cable shield.
[14:48] <PE2BZ> Can you easily remove that metal tube ?
[14:49] <lost_cause> I'm slightly worried about damaging the cable further, should I peel off all the rubber?
[14:49] <PE2BZ> On https://goo.gl/photos/rf9XS5r2aZ4FbZS68 you can see how far the center pin has to come out to have good contact with the hole on the SDR
[14:50] <PE2BZ> Can you press the connector together and see more of the center pin coming out as on image 3 ?
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[14:53] <PE2BZ> This is under the shrink tube I assume ? https://goo.gl/photos/4hMJCV77ETyeP5uj7
[14:55] <lost_cause> I can press them and get more to come through, but nothing really holding it there
[14:55] <lost_cause> yes that looks like what I have under the shrink
[14:57] <PE2BZ> Under that tube is the cable shielding. If you could remove the tube and solder the shielding to the connector with the center pin as far out as possible ...
[14:58] <lost_cause> ok sounds doable, and then just duct tape rather than the shrink tube which I don't have handy I suppose to insulate it again
[14:59] <PE2BZ> Indeed. Connector and cable look like teflon type so should withstand the heat of the soldering process,
[15:00] <PE2BZ> Are those the same type of connectors as you use for the payload / antenna combination ?
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[15:01] <lost_cause> I haven't made my payload antenna yet, I have a pigtail that came with the habduino (just a piece of wire on one end, and the connecter that attaches to the habduino on the other)
[15:02] <lost_cause> I was going to follow the guide I saw somewhere on ukhas I think to make one out of bits of wire and straws
[15:02] <russss> you don't really need to heatshrink/insulate it
[15:02] <russss> it doesn't really help with much
[15:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_S1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_S1
[15:03] <PE2BZ> Pigtail will do. I am afk for dinner
[15:03] <PE2BZ> Back later tonight
[15:03] <lost_cause> ok thanks ttyl
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[15:04] <PE2BZ> You know which side of the soldering tool is hot, do you ;-)
[15:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_SKY after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_SKY
[15:10] <lost_cause> Just about...
[15:10] <lost_cause> so it comes away in 3 pieces (I thought you were having dinner)
[15:11] <lost_cause> the wire has shielding and a pin, then there is a metal tube that comes off, and there is a bronze coloured metal section, how does the bronze /copper part fix to the metal casing? You are saying put solder there? Or just squeeze it together with pliers?
[15:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SNMOBILE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SNMOBILE_chase
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[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1YA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1YA-11
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[16:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4ZGJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4ZGJ-11
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[16:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-7
[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0AWK-8 after 0321 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-8
[16:42] <PE2BZ> lost_cause dinner included shopping for the forgotten parts and cooking ;-)
[16:44] <PE2BZ> I don´t know about your soldering experience, but you can´t ¨put solder on it¨ . You have to heat the copper (gold plated perhaps) part of the connector and the wire shield of the cable and then add soldering lead till it floates together.
[16:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LOCKERBIE after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LOCKERBIE
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[16:54] <PE2BZ> So, assuming your cable looks like this after the metal tube is off https://goo.gl/photos/Mbj2BGFCLwgJ9qzG7
[16:55] <PE2BZ> I wrapped a piece of blank (non isolated) wire around it like this: https://goo.gl/photos/XmyHTZRmsvpEvZ3v7
[16:56] <PE2BZ> Then I heated it with my (40 Watt) soldering iron for 30 seconds before applying lead solder https://goo.gl/photos/XpcapNoB1YcTaXoJA
[16:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9CHA-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9CHA-14
[16:56] <Laurenceb_> !whereis UBSEDS24
[16:56] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03UBSEDS24 was over 03Kuytunsky District, Irkutsk Oblast, Russia 10(54.76645,101.86694) at 0313615 meters about 0312 days ago
[16:56] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-3
[16:56] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(17.48107,-57.03785) at 0313999 meters about 038 days ago
[16:57] <PE2BZ> after which you can cut the unused end of the blank wire https://goo.gl/photos/56eAqHBEtCzGohsb9
[16:58] <PE2BZ> That would have to last a lifetime if you do not heavily bend it behind the connector
[16:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9CHA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9CHA-11
[17:02] <lost_cause> ok so you don't use the metal tube bit at all then?
[17:02] <lost_cause> very handy photos thanks
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[17:03] <lost_cause> Does anyone think using a washing machine filling pipe is a good or bad idea? I'm thinking it might not be very gas proof at the joins...
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[17:04] <mattbrejza> gaffa tape isnt very gas proof but that doesnt stop most people using it ;)
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[17:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> test
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[17:21] <PE2BZ> lost_cause with the metal tube bit you can´t see if the solder lead floates inside. With broken connectors and no crimping tool I would solder without the metal tube. However, you could use the metal tube and ¨crimp¨ it with a // what is the english word for Bankschroef //
[17:21] <PE2BZ> Bank screw ? That simple ?
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[17:32] <lost_cause> ok great thanks, I will give this ago tonight
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[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6RUE-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RUE-11
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[19:00] <mfa298> lost_cause: seeing the above questions about sma vs rp-sma there's some images on the wiki
[19:00] <mfa298> !wiki rf_connectors
[19:00] <SpacenearUS> 03mfa298: Wiki page 03rf_connectors (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:rf_connectors
[19:00] <mfa298> you can hopefully see the subtle difference between sma and rp-sma
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[19:15] <SteveN_> Dear all - can anyone please tell me how to get a flight doc approved, new to HabHub
[19:18] <Micke-sa6bss> 1. make a payload doc, make your payload apper on the map
[19:18] <Micke-sa6bss> 2. make a flight documents
[19:19] <SteveN_> Have done both of those
[19:19] <Micke-sa6bss> 3. paste that flight doc nr in #habhub channel for approvement
[19:20] <SteveN_> habhub channel on here (IRC?)
[19:20] <Micke-sa6bss> #habhub irc channel
[19:20] <Micke-sa6bss> you will see a bot list the parameters and thn you have to wait for an admin to approve it
[19:22] <SteveN_> thanks for your help
[19:22] <Micke-sa6bss> :)
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[19:35] <lost_cause> Thanks mfa298 useful page
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[20:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5PGW-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5PGW-12
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[20:42] <fsphil> not the most interesting images on the ssdv page atm
[20:42] <fsphil> KM6JAD's roof is getting good coverage
[20:44] <daveake> Looks like pits with the imagemagick stuff
[20:44] <daveake> But he hasn't modified the script to work with that resolution
[20:44] <daveake> not fully anyway
[20:46] <Reb-SM0ULC> evening
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[20:46] <fsphil> evenin'
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[20:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03POSIUK1 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=POSIUK1
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[21:04] <lost_cause> so we took the payload for a drive. Why does the map show a big curving path to germany for posiuk1?
[21:06] <daveake> That's the flight path prediction
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[21:08] <dbrooke> lost_cause: are you POSIUK1 ?
[21:08] <lost_cause> yeah
[21:09] <dbrooke> I'm in Tipps End (G6GZH on the map)
[21:09] <lost_cause> ah not far :)
[21:10] <lost_cause> will you be tracking us on Saturday afternoon? :)
[21:11] <dbrooke> Yes, I'll be receiving your flight but if you need any help with RF cables/connectors/adapters or whatever at your end then let me know
[21:12] <lost_cause> oh that's very kind thanks
[21:12] <lost_cause> Are you around tomorrow if we need to pop and see you? I'm hoping we have most things covered (waiting for an amazon delivery or two)
[21:12] <lost_cause> (or you are welcome to pop and see us)
[21:14] <lost_cause> Come and see the mess we've made of antennas and cables ;-)
[21:15] <dbrooke> yeah I'm about tomorrow
[21:16] <lost_cause> nice, well you're welcome to come and visit, not too early though, any time after say 11am till late. And if I'm panicking about connectors you'll hear about it on this channel anyway I'm sure ;)
[21:19] <dbrooke> OK, well I'm always logged in here so just ping me if need be
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[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KI7NII-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7NII-11
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