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[04:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS6
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[05:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[06:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTAFLIGHT after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOTAFLIGHT
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[07:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS2
[07:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[07:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS1
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[07:48] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:48] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
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[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA-T after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-T
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[08:38] <Jordan_> Hi guys. I wondered just how hard it is to become a listener on habhub tracker. And listen in to other payloads?
[08:39] <Jordan_> Is it a case of setting up an established connection or is it just as simple as tuning into the right frequency?
[08:41] <Vaizki> sorry don't exactly understand what you want to accomplish?
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[08:42] <Vaizki> you want to get a realtime feed of events coming in from everyone who sends in data?
[08:42] <craag> Jordan_: We have some software called 'dl-fldigi'
[08:43] <craag> Using a radio receiver (eg. an rtlsdr), you can receive the signals from the balloons
[08:43] <craag> the software then decodes it and automatically uploads what your receive to the habhub system
[08:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide
[08:45] <gonzo_> Jordan_, do you have any receiving kit for 434MHz at the moment?
[08:47] <gonzo_> Thogh Vaizki's question probably needs answering first
[08:47] <Vaizki> well maybe he does mean becoming an uploader to tracker by listening to other people's payloads.. just wasn't sure :)
[08:49] <Jordan_> Yeah, sorry I was tabbed out.
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[08:49] <Jordan_> I have a 434 recieving kit. I just wanted to know how I can be an established listener.
[08:51] <Jordan_> I can recieve my own payloads data. I just wondered whether listening into other payloads is the same principle.
[08:51] <AndyEsser> yes
[08:51] <Jordan_> Sorry I understand. I could've used better phrasing.
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[08:53] <craag> There's a 5am flight from southampton tomorrow, good chance to have a go ;)
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[08:58] <fsphil> 5am, what's that?
[08:59] <AndyEsser> time the baby finally went to sleep this morning :(
[09:03] <gonzo_> ugh, I assume that is a notam restriction?
[09:03] <gonzo_> *the HAB, not thje baby)
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[09:04] <gonzo_> Jordan_, if you are receiving your own payload and uploading that to habhub, and seeing your payload on the map. Then you are most of the way there
[09:05] <gonzo_> what antenna/receiver are you using?
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[09:09] <craag> gonzo_: I believe it's a pico, but they want to launch it before soton airport opens
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[09:15] <gonzo_> fairy nuff
[09:19] <Jordan_> No not my own payload, other people's
[09:21] <Jordan_> Okay sorry guys, new question. Do I have to setup a payload for LoRa aswell if I'm running both PITS and LoRa ona launch
[09:21] <gonzo_> yes receiving other payloads is pretty much the same as listening to your own
[09:22] <gonzo_> there are two main modulation modes out there.... LoRA and rtty (and similar modes)
[09:22] <gonzo_> lora needs the bespoke hardware for receive/decode, usually on a pi
[09:22] <Jordan_> Yes gonzo_ I'm running a LoRa test board that sits on top of my PITS board. I'm transmitting both 434 and 868 (2 trackers)
[09:23] <gonzo_> all the rtty type modes, you use any receiver that will give you an audio output (rtl dongle, yaesu817 etc) and feed that audio into the dl-fldigi program
[09:24] <gonzo_> ok, what antennas do you have on the lora pi?
[09:24] <gonzo_> (the receiving one)
[09:24] <Jordan_> Ive got a stumpy radio antenna for the 868 transmission and a mag mounted 868 whip for the chase car
[09:25] <gonzo_> anything for 434mhz?
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[09:26] <Jordan_> Yeah my mag mounted 434 antenna for the chase car too. pre amp etc
[09:26] <gonzo_> ok, good start
[09:26] <gonzo_> most people use 434MHz. You can use your own receiver to lsiten to any other HAB that is using lora mode.
[09:26] <gonzo_> just needs the correct rfrequency and mode setting
[09:27] <gonzo_> (I'm not the lora expert here, so will let otjhers advise)
[09:27] <Jordan_> I'm using both 434 and 868. The loRa setup is complete and working in the office.
[09:27] <Jordan_> I'm wondering if it needs to be a "generated" payload for the hab hub tracker
[09:28] <gonzo_> when chasing, you tend not to be too far from your balloon. But lsitening to other flights, they may be a greater ranmges. So getting out to some clear-ish high ground wioth the receiover helps
[09:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You don't need any documents to recieve any transmission as such, but to plot on the map then you need a payload document in order to decode it and for dl-fldigi to upload it to the servers, thats all done by the owner of the payloas of course.
[09:29] <gonzo_> to appear on the may, I would assume that even lora needs to have a payload doc lodged with hanhub. But that is for the launch team to do. Once it it done and they can see their hab on the map, anyone should be able to receive telem and upload it
[09:29] <Jordan_> okay thanks Geoff-G8DHE-M and gonzo_ I'm all up to speed now
[09:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> As a tracker you just tune in and dl-fldigi or the LoRa gateway just uploads the telelmetry to the server.
[09:31] <gonzo_> the habhub payload doc system is there to automate reception as far as poss. As not all hab people are that radio savvy
[09:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
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[10:06] <daveake> Re lora and RTTY payload docs, lora needs the same as rtty does except there's no need to fill in the section fur baud rate etc
[10:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03u3s11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=u3s11
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[10:09] <pb0ahx> EPSOM team mni tnx for flight yesterday was a slow but good flight for me
[10:11] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:11] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[12:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OM5KV_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OM5KV_chase
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4BW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4BW-11
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[13:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_S1 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_S1
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[13:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_SKY after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_SKY
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[14:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N1YIP-11 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1YIP-11
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[14:27] <lostcause_> hi all
[14:27] <lostcause_> so I have my habduino, and I am looking at setting my frequency...
[14:27] <lostcause_> default is 434.485 but what are my options / suggestions for changing this?
[14:30] <lostcause_> as I assume if I left it at default, I could easily interfere or pick up someone elses signal?
[14:31] <PE2BZ> lostcause for the dutch listeners we prefer frequencies between the 25 kHz steps. So 434.400, 425, 450,475,500 are commonly used for radio transmitters over here, and the 434.4125 , 4375 , 4625 are between those frequencies so the reception over here is much better.
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[14:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Probably best to choose an odd 12.5khz channel as most equipment seems to be based on 25Khz channels so gives good clearence
[14:33] <lostcause_> Not sure I'm able or allowed to use 12.5Khz?
[14:33] <lostcause_> or you mean a 12.5Khz step
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes channels are normally based on 12.5 or 25Khz steps
[14:34] <PE2BZ> indeed the 12.5 kHz step I meant
[14:34] <PE2BZ> !flights
[14:34] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
[14:35] <lostcause_> so maybe 446.900 ?
[14:35] <AndyEsser> no
[14:36] <AndyEsser> 434.4125, 434.4375, 434.4625
[14:36] <AndyEsser> as PE2BZ already suggested
[14:36] <lostcause_> oh right yeah, sorry, being stupid
[14:36] <AndyEsser> 446.900 is outside the ISM band
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[14:37] <lostcause_> ok and the habduino software allows for half steps ? Seems to suggest 434.xxx rather than 434.xxxx
[14:37] <lostcause_> it is an mtx2
[14:38] <AndyEsser> if it doesn't, just do 434.437 or something
[14:38] <Vaizki> well the last 500 Hz is not going to be a big deal
[14:38] <AndyEsser> where the actual centre is doesn't have to be that accurate
[14:38] <lostcause_> ok cool
[14:38] <PE2BZ> lostcause we even appreciate 434.435 or 434.515 as frequency :-)
[14:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The step size is only a convention based on old audio bandwidths
[14:39] <AndyEsser> you could have 434.4225 or whatever you wanted really as long as you don't go outside the ISM band
[14:39] <Vaizki> still relevant to airband...
[14:39] <lostcause_> what about 434.111 or something wierd like that?
[14:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> fine
[14:40] <PE2BZ> +1 to fine
[14:40] <lostcause_> nice, I'll have that, looks pretty!
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[14:42] <lostcause_> And any preferences/suggestions about callsign? Is that entirely up to me?
[14:43] <AndyEsser> yes
[14:43] <AndyEsser> although better to choose shorter
[14:43] <AndyEsser> takes less time to transmit
[14:44] <lostcause_> ah nice point.
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 5-7 characters is a good choice
[14:44] <AndyEsser> although don't make it a single character...
[14:44] <craag> nor call it 'HAB'
[14:45] <lostcause_> nice and I can ask for this to be approved in your list? When should I request that?
[14:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You need a Payload document first t appear on map
[14:45] <lostcause_> yeah I made that
[14:45] <dbrooke> also best to avoid something which has already been used, check http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
[14:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> no authorisation needed
[14:46] <lostcause_> Ah right, nice.
[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> then when you know the date a Flight document gets autorised to make sure it working and payload has been tested
[14:46] <lostcause_> something about "approval" and ask on IRC channel
[14:46] <lostcause_> yeah I made a flight doc
[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes paste the Flight doc ID number in the #habhub channel
[14:46] <AndyEsser> lostcause_: you already know the date of launch?
[14:46] <lostcause_> but I'll test first before asking for approve?
[14:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you have to
[14:47] <lostcause_> yeah date is 27th
[14:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> it won't be approved otherwise!
[14:47] <AndyEsser> as in... 3 days time?
[14:47] <lostcause_> how can you tell if I've tested it or not though, yeah 3 days time, plenty of time :)
[14:47] <AndyEsser> you have a NOTAM? or is it a pico?
[14:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> because it monitors that telemetry for the pauload doc has been received
[14:47] <lostcause_> I think it is PICO (what defines that) but I filed a CAA request a few weeks ago
[14:48] <AndyEsser> Ok - then you want to get a Payload doc done, as Geoff-G8DHE-M said
[14:48] <AndyEsser> to make your payload appear on the map
[14:48] <lostcause_> yeah done payload doc and flight plan doc
[14:48] <AndyEsser> and once that's working, create a Flight Doc and paste the id in #habhub
[14:48] <lostcause_> ok yeah I made a flight doc, but first I think I should just check I can see it myself before requesting approval?
[14:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> getting a bit late to be doing first testing!!
[14:49] <AndyEsser> yes, turn on your payload, fire up your receiving equipment, and check the payload appears on tracker.habhub.org
[14:50] <lostcause_> ok, and it will appear because I will be uploading the data from fldigi, not because someone else will detect it?
[14:50] <AndyEsser> correct
[14:50] <gonzo_> a pico flight is usually one that will fall within the CAA's 2mtr dimension limit during it's entire flight. Basically on ethat does not need a notam or CAA permission.
[14:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> doesn't matter but if it doesn't appear you need to look on the logtail to see why
[14:50] <lostcause_> ok nice, I'll get on that. no the balloon is an 800g, I expect it to get to about 7m wide, so I filed for a NOTAM
[14:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
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[14:52] <Vaizki> lostcause_: picos would usually be party balloon type (foil superpressure) with <10g payloads
[14:52] <lostcause_> ok thanks, I'll get on with testing...I bought a dx50 antenna and an airspy for my base station
[14:52] <Vaizki> nice
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[14:56] <PE2BZ> lostcause nice RX setup. Now stop chatting and get it working ;-)
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[14:59] <Vaizki> I assume dx50 = diamond x50.. I have one hanging off an airspy.. seems to work, at least I can see every wireless thermometer within 10 km... maybe someone can send some HABs this way too :)
[15:00] <fsphil> with a thermometer?
[15:00] <fsphil> would it be rude to transmit fake weather station data from a HAB
[15:01] <PE2BZ> No. Not at all... All people see a blue sky and -48 degrees C on the thermometer :-)
[15:01] <Vaizki> everyone could just move to finland then
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[15:02] <PE2BZ> Vaizki no way. Even with 23 degrees C the wife has cold feet in the evening...
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[15:02] <PE2BZ> Althoug it has a lot of space :-)
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[15:03] <Vaizki> I recommend these, https://www.rei.com/product/758342/the-north-face-nse-tent-booties-mens ... :)
[15:03] <Vaizki> yes, I got a pair for my wife...
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[15:04] <Reb-SM0ULC> :)
[15:05] <PE2BZ> Which she wears in bed ?
[15:05] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: what program to decode the thermometers?
[15:06] <PE2BZ> Reb I assume only the half is thermometers. The other half are tire pressuse sensors, wireless power meters, wireles light and doorbell remote controls...
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[15:07] <Vaizki> I don't decode them with airspy, but I have a RFXtrx433
[15:07] <PE2BZ> There is software for the RTL-dongle however, or more luxuary there is an RF USB receiver which combines with Domoticz software and shows all what is around
[15:08] <Vaizki> I am setting it up with HomeAssistant
[15:10] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: ah
[15:10] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: going to play a bit more with rtl_433 some day here
[15:11] <PE2BZ> Reb My RFXtrx catches these devices which are not mine: https://justpaste.it/173d3
[15:13] <Reb-SM0ULC> ah
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[15:15] <Reb-SM0ULC> pretty active project: https://github.com/merbanan/rtl_433
[15:16] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: hove no ok antenna for 430/144. happy with the x50?
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[15:42] <lostcause_> how high do you mount the diamond x50? Should I be putting on the end of a long pole?
[15:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ideally as high as you can get it clear of roofs and any obsructions if at all possil
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[17:17] <science> Hi, Im a science teacher at a School in Washington state. We are planning on launching a weather balloon in the next few weeks. I have a high altitude science flight computer, spot gps, a radio bug. I also just got an amateur technician license and should be getting my callsign next week. My question is, how would I go about getting our incoming data posted to hab hub? Our goal is to have students watch the progress of the flight
[17:17] <science> we also have pressure and temperature sensors with our flight computer
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[17:28] <daveake> flight computer being what, exactly ?
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[17:44] <daveake> science: ^^ what flight computer do you have ?
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[17:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HAPROS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPROS
[18:03] <daveake> ah well, afk for an hour
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[18:15] <science> high altitude science eagle flight computer. It collects altitude, coordinates, temp and pressure and saves it to a micro flash. the radio bug is an aprs transmitter developed by the same company. Im just confused as to how to use this in conjunction with the hab hub mapping system. Do I need to somehow receive and then retransmit the signal to habhub or is there a way to automatically forward. and if not can I receive the data f
[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If your using APRS if the object is defined as a balloon pretty certain it will be picked up from the APRS network automatically, but you can always ask in the #HABHUB channel for it to be added as well
[18:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> if you ask for it to be added the callsign and ssid will be required as a minimum to identify it.
[18:20] <science> Okay, I was wondering about that. I checked the general aprs data page and it shows an enormous number of transmissions world wide, but then I check this site and its just showing weather balloons. Do I need to somehow register with this site specifically. Thanks for the help!
[18:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No need to register but if your APRS object isn't defined as a balloon then it won't be picked up automatically in which case /J #habhub and request that callsign-ssid is added to the APRS import list
[18:23] <science> oh man thanks so much! Ive been thinking about this problem for a while. Its funny how easy it is to get answers. Me and Highlands Middle School thank you
[18:24] <Vaizki> balloons are /O
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[18:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> See https://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot for details of various commands not all can be used by mere Users of course ;-)
[18:25] <Vaizki> !aprs list-bal-url 24
[18:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Vaizki: Recent balloons: http://aprs.fi/KE0BMD,CT2JVS,9A1RBZ-12,M10WX-11,KG5GQT-9,SQ7AYZ-14,SQ6OMN-13,WA7FW,HG8LSC-11,KF5PGW-11,OE1W-11,OK1RPL-10,VK4BW-11,SV4FFB,DC2EH-1,EA5DOM-11,KC1HLF-11,SQ6OMN-11,9W2BPA-9,HG8LXL-11
[18:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Vaizki: Recent balloons: http://aprs.fi/N1YIP-11,OK1LPD-11,PY3OL-11,PD4U-10,KG7DCW-11,DH0GDE-7,OE1FFS-11,EA4RKU-11,SQ7AYZ-15,OM3BC-13,PD4U-11,SP1N-11,KM6KIY,EA7KAV-11,HIRFW-6,KC2DIJ-1,WA7FW-12,EA3IK-11,DL1MX-11,PU5PEP-11
[18:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Vaizki: Recent balloons: http://aprs.fi/HB9ONO-11,CT2KAZ-11,OE3OSB-11,W1FN-13,PU5PBT-11,PU3XGS-11,IK8SUT-11,Q13NV-12,K6RUE-11,DO9BAU-12
[18:26] <Vaizki> that's quite a few
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[18:29] <HAPROS> Can we get the flight document for the HAPROS flight approved? Document id: 50f8ee2547e366dcf5bbda932ef1a270
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[18:39] <Vaizki> HAPROS: you should ask oin #habhub
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[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WA7FW - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WA7FW
[18:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TKE-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-12
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[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTAFLIGHT after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOTAFLIGHT
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[22:29] <lost_cause> hi again
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[22:30] <lost_cause> Struggling to get dl-fldigi to recognize my habduino signal. Can someone link me an example of rtty (50/170 7 none 2) that I can listen to to see what I'm trying to aim for please?
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[22:33] <daveake> It should look like this on the waterfall http://reactivemusic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Screen-Shot-2014-05-23-at-2.37.20-AM.png
[22:36] <lost_cause> hmm, mine just doesn't quite sound right, I note on that picture you have 50/480 whereas mine is 50/170
[22:36] <daveake> 170 for what reason ?
[22:37] <lost_cause> No idea, I'm new to all this. Don't think that's my problem though
[22:38] <daveake> I think it's one of your problems
[22:39] <daveake> Once you get the 2 signal lines in the waterfall (you've got that, have you?) then you can see the shift (distance between the lines)
[22:39] <lost_cause> yeah and they are too far apart I think
[22:39] <daveake> Whatever that is, say 425Hz, you need to put that number into the dl-fldigi settings (called "audio shift" or something like that)
[22:40] <daveake> Once that's done you can click halfway between the 2 signal lines
[22:40] <daveake> And then you should have 2 cursor lines, pretty much lined up with the signals
[22:41] <daveake> As you can see in the pic I linked to
[22:41] <lost_cause> ok so I'm trying to find where the audio shift setting is
[22:41] <lost_cause> is that the 480 part?
[22:41] <lost_cause> ah! I see it's making more sense
[22:41] <daveake> "custom shift"
[22:42] <daveake> See http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=decoding-with-dl-fldigi which is for a different tracker but the process is the same
[22:50] <lost_cause> feels like it should be working now, got two strong signals and I can hear two tones, lined up the cursor....got a green cross etc. but just getting garbage still :(
[22:51] <daveake> Using an SDR or a real radio ?
[22:51] <lost_cause> using sdr and also rtl-tcp
[22:51] <daveake> As a quick test, click the Rv button (bottom-right of dl-fldigi)
[22:52] <lost_cause> ah! I think that did it!
[22:52] <lost_cause> I had it turned on, clicking it off, fixed it. What does that do?
[22:52] <daveake> stops it working :)
[22:52] <Ian_> :)
[22:53] <daveake> Reverses the 1's and 0's
[22:53] <daveake> well, marks and spaces to be more accurate
[22:53] <lost_cause> possibly could be better, as some data is a bit mixed up, but seeing some good stuff too
[22:54] <lost_cause> Getting green on the bar at the top though
[22:54] <lost_cause> so that's a good sign too I guess
[22:54] <daveake> do you have radio aerials on the habduino, sdr, or both ?
[22:54] <daveake> if both, remove one and see if that improves it
[22:54] <lost_cause> got a piece of wire on the habduino
[22:55] <lost_cause> and it's about 3 meters away from my diamond x50 antenna
[22:55] <daveake> = aerial. and the sdr ?
[22:55] <daveake> right
[22:55] <daveake> probably overloading the sdr
[22:56] <Ian_> The science behind it is that with a mark (high frequency) and space (low frequency) if you receive the signal in the opposite sideband, the mark and space frequencies are transposed/inverted.
[22:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5PGW-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5PGW-11
[22:57] <lost_cause> you mean because it's so close to the antenna?
[22:57] <daveake> I do
[22:57] <lost_cause> should I fiddle with the gain settings etc., on the sdr?
[22:57] <daveake> maybe, but just removing an aerial should do it
[22:58] <daveake> depends where in the sdr it's overloading
[22:59] <lost_cause> so I have one band much stronger than the other in the waterfall
[22:59] <daveake> in that case you're probably a) overloading, and b) not tuned in to the original signal
[23:00] <daveake> You can get lots of spurious signals appearing if the sdr is overloaded
[23:00] <lost_cause> I only see the signal in once place though
[23:00] <daveake> shouldn't have a strong difference between signal levels then
[23:01] <lost_cause> ok so maybe I haven't tuned in quite right, should I centre the signal in the tuner waterfall?
[23:01] <daveake> No, the centre generally has a "DC peak" and you need to keep away from that
[23:01] <lost_cause> myu SNR is 30dB
[23:02] <lost_cause> ok so actually centering it seems to have worked for me, seems to be green every time now
[23:02] <lost_cause> (almost)
[23:05] <lost_cause> it's saying "uploaded payload_telemetry successfully" does that mean it is appearing on the map somewhere?
[23:14] <dbrooke> it will only appear on the map if you have a valid payload document
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:21] <lost_cause> ok cool, onthe document it asks for checksum type, mine look like this "08*A0C1"
[23:21] <lost_cause> is that crc16-ccitt?
[23:22] <dbrooke> most likely
[23:22] <dbrooke> look at http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[23:23] <dbrooke> you should be able to see what's wrong there
[23:25] <lost_cause> ok will do, I think I know already what's wrong
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[23:32] <lost_cause> ok so I see this (apologies for paste)
[23:32] <lost_cause> [2017-05-24 23:30:58,529] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: Parsing [ascii] '$$POSIUK1,448,23:30:43,52.583948,0.52,27,2518,08*945D\n' (058122bd3688b7cd887b73da0fcb142264d78b857560c44633ff979609d82eb0) from posiuk1 [2017-05-24 23:30:53,625] DEBUG habitat.parser_daemon MainThread: Saved doc f5fc281f91d66dd9d3713af6dc5d7edfeb7a9eddadfed4b29c70d39aa80140b1 successfully
[23:32] <lost_cause> is that a good thing?
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[23:35] <lost_cause> is protocol "UKHAS" correct?
[23:38] <adamgreig> lost_cause: the error is "Exception in UKHAS main parse: ValueError: Incorrect number of fields (got 9, expect 8)
[23:38] <lost_cause> ah thanks, let me check that.
[23:39] <lost_cause> This is a typical string the habduino is sending out...I'm guessing what those are really...
[23:39] <lost_cause> $$$$$POSIUK1,368,23:13:18,52.583980,0.056617,0,7,16,2537,08*A0C1
[23:41] <lost_cause> that is 8, do I need to define the callsign as a parameter also?
[23:43] <adamgreig> nope
[23:44] <adamgreig> I count 9 fields
[23:44] <adamgreig> 368,23:13:18,52.583980,0.056617,0,7,16,2537,08
[23:45] <adamgreig> your configuration only has 8 fields http://habitat.habhub.org/monocle/?uri=habitat/bf1f613a6a85adfad6ad948852b94152
[23:45] <lost_cause> isn't the 08 part of the checksum?
[23:46] <lost_cause> ah ok so I assumed checksum would come after a comma...
[23:46] <lost_cause> weird that I can't easily find what the habduino v4 is actually outputting, even reading the code is tricky for mew
[23:46] <adamgreig> the checksum is the part after the *
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[23:57] <lost_cause> found it in the code eventually :)
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