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[06:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[07:00] <pb0ahx> !flights
[07:00] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03SP9UOB-P29 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(ab20), 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
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[07:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS6
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[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ7ACP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7ACP-11
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[10:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ7BR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ7BR-11
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[10:57] <SNBlair> right - does anybody have any experience of launching near (80km) to an airshow? There are three going on June 17th around Leicester. On the notaminfo.com website Leicester seems to be resonably clear of other obstacles (airfields etc).
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[11:06] <gonzo_> you may get extra conditions that you cannot launch if you will go in certain directions
[11:06] <daveake> I've tried twice
[11:06] <gonzo_> which you can get anyway near controled airspace
[11:07] <daveake> Could only launch outside the hours of their notam
[11:07] <gonzo_> isn't 80km is a long way though?
[11:07] <daveake> Depends on the flightpath of aircraft to/from the show
[11:08] <daveake> Granted in my case I was closer than 80km
[11:08] <gonzo_> I had a blanket restriction as I'm close to the solent airspace, with noithing special going on
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
[11:24] <nick_> Are there secretly many more airshows than I naively expected?
[11:24] <nick_> Last weekend I saw one behind my garden.
[11:26] <sumie-dh> 47
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC1
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[11:28] <gonzo_> is it real, or is it memorex
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:39] <gonzo_> !flights
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Current flights: 03Oldham 211 10(e852), 03SP9UOB-P29 144.251 MHz CTSTIA 10(ab20), 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
[11:40] <gonzo_> !flight e852
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Flight 10(e852): 03Oldham 211 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 10:00 from 03South Yorkshire, UK 10(53.42321,-1.54019)
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[11:44] <gonzo_> !dial
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:44] <gonzo_> !dial e852
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> 03gonzo_: Latest dials for 03BARC1 10(e852): none
[11:45] <PE2BZ> So, no clue yet ?
[11:48] <PE2BZ> ping G8KNN_ it´s me again... Could you give the QRG for BARC1 please ?
[11:49] <PE2BZ> I think I see it at 434.150 now
[11:53] <G8KNN_> sorry, I was AFK. Yes, its on 434.150
[11:55] <PE2BZ> NP ! tnx anyway. Can someone remove that bird from my lens ?
[12:02] <gonzo_> 2 stations listening, that's what happend when you don't announce
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[12:04] <mfa298> to be slighty fair to them, they did ask for the flightdoc to be approved yesterday, and the approval took ~24 hours
[12:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:17] <SNBlair> its a bit of a catch 22. I am hoping to get at least a ballpark estimate of my likely success by speaking to the CAA man responsible for balloon launches on Monday (he's on hols!)
[12:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
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[12:18] <SNBlair> its a bit of a catch 22. I am hoping to get at least a ballpark estimate of my likely success by speaking to the CAA man responsible for balloon launches on Monday (he's on hols!)
[12:21] <SNBlair> when is the earliest that the NOTAM is issued / green light given? Dave A - you indicated on your website that the final confirmation often comes via email on the afternoon of the launch. Is that correct?
[12:21] <SNBlair> If so, it poses major issues regarding an overnight school trip from scotland!
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[12:35] <gonzo_> the CAA guy is not that chatty. Asking for advice/recomendations often goes into the bit bucket, unless he knows you.
[12:36] <gonzo_> it's usually a case of putting in the application and seeing if you get a notam and permission
[12:36] <gonzo_> which can be at the last minute
[12:37] <gonzo_> it's much easier to use a launch location that has been used before. As he already has most of the work done for that
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[13:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03URJC - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=URJC
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[13:57] <SNBlair> test
[14:01] <michal_f> failed
[14:02] <PE2BZ> 59 001 in JO21CX
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[14:11] <SNBlair> Is there any reason why an early launch, say 9am wouldn't be advised?
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[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1YA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1YA-11
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N1YIP-11 after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1YIP-11
[14:14] <mfa298> some (those launching near airports) people might say that's not an early launch.
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[14:16] <lostcause_> Hello
[14:17] <lostcause_> so I'm planning to launch a balloon...have ordered a habduino and an airspy mini dongle. Is that going to be straight forward enough if I follow tutorials/guides etc?
[14:20] <lostcause_> And how would I go about getting it to show on your cool balloon tracking map? I presume there's specific code/messages I'd need to send out. Once I get the kit and the code, maybe it'll make more sense to me.
[14:20] <AndyEsser> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:beginners_guide_to_high_altitude_ballooning
[14:21] <lostcause_> yep, read all that thanks
[14:23] <lostcause_> looks simple enough. I imagine ariels etc. is where it gets fiddly.
[14:23] <fsphil> they're not too bad either
[14:26] <lostcause_> What kind of ariel do I need for the airspy mini? I presume it doesn't come with one, any recommendations?
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[14:29] <fsphil> a little magmount antenna for the chase car is probably the best bet
[14:32] <michal_f> antennas is what was puzzling me for a long time before my first flight. I choosed diamond x50 for baseStation, and cheapest diamond for car roof
[14:32] <michal_f> and they're more than enough
[14:32] <michal_f> I too have an airspy and Upu's preamp
[14:33] <fsphil> I usually suggest something like this for the car: https://cpc.farnell.com/watson/wsm-270/wsm-270-mini-mag-antenna/dp/IT44456
[14:33] <lostcause_> oh thanks, that's really useful info
[14:33] <fsphil> then just a simple home made antenna on the payload, though you can buy one for that too
[14:33] <fsphil> just make sure it's not rigid
[14:33] <fsphil> spikes of doom are bad
[14:34] <lostcause_> I think the habduino comes with a half meter patch antenna
[14:35] <craag> the patch antenna black boxey thing is for the gps receiver
[14:35] <craag> you'll need another one for the transmitter that you're receiving from the car
[14:35] <lostcause_> oh right
[14:35] <craag> see https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:payload_antenna
[14:36] <craag> as linked on the list at the bottom of: http://www.habduino.org/
[14:39] <lostcause_> got it, OK so uptrnics seem to provide the tail for that, I'll just need single core wire then I guess.
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[14:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALL1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALL1_chase
[14:43] <michal_f> https://drive.google.com/embeddedfolderview?id=0B_8ipK0TpiuhMTJpcE45R2xGcmc#grid < my realisation of payload antenna, though it's not really along fshphil's "spikes of doom" advice
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[16:27] <PE2BZ> michal_f I think this is a nice payload antenna :-) Double check for not using reverse polarity (common for WiFi) SMA connectors.
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[16:55] <lostcause_> So I should plug in a 70cm yagi into my airspy usb dongle when the payload has landed?
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[16:57] <fsphil> you'll only need that if you can't hear it on the magmount
[16:57] <fsphil> ideally you'll be quite near to where it lands as it's coming down
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[16:58] <fsphil> so even the small magmount antenna will hear it
[16:59] <lostcause_> right, so do people use massive 7 element yagis to zone in on the payload if it lands in a crop field or something?
[16:59] <lostcause_> I mean is a 4 element small one worth making perhaps?
[16:59] <fsphil> the yagi is useful as it's directional, so even if you can't decode a signal you can usually tell roughtly its direction
[17:00] <lostcause_> so you plug that into a radio and just listen to the beeps?
[17:00] <fsphil> yeah
[17:00] <fsphil> but in an ideal world you'll have a near enough location that you can just go and look for it
[17:00] <fsphil> I've never needed a yagi yet
[17:00] <lostcause_> Yeah sounds like over engineering for my purposes really.
[17:01] <fsphil> I'd still keep a small one in the car
[17:01] <fsphil> say your payload antenna is faulty the signal might be weaker than expected, and a yagi can make all the difference
[17:02] <lostcause_> I'm putting a 3g tracker and a 3g cell phone in there on two different networks as well, so I think it's likely I'll get the general landing spot
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[17:04] <lostcause_> so would a UV-3R be useful maybe with a small yagi?
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[17:07] <PE2BZ> UV-3R has USB reception ?
[17:07] <fsphil> it doesn't
[17:08] <PE2BZ> Most payloads transmit RTTY in FSK (Frequency shift keying) which can ¨not¨ be received with a FM receiver
[17:09] <lostcause_> oh right, I thought because it was 430-440Mhz might still work
[17:09] <lostcause_> 400-470 rather
[17:10] <lostcause_> so there isn't a cheap way of jumping out of the car with something hand held and directional?
[17:11] <PE2BZ> An Android phone / tablet with rtl dongle could do ?
[17:11] <PE2BZ> Or windows tablet.
[17:12] <lostcause_> (googling rtl dongle now)
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[17:16] <lostcause_> would a tv tuner usb stick work with a yagi on an android tablet/phone?
[17:17] <PE2BZ> Shure thing :-)
[17:18] <PE2BZ> With an OTG adapter you can connect the stick to the android device and have the sdr software running on it. That demodulates FM narrow, FM Widw and AM and SSB
[17:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Soton_FS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Soton_FS
[17:18] <lostcause_> This says SDR, so would this work? goo.gl/znO540
[17:20] <PE2BZ> That works. Do you need it fast ? This one is from Hong Kong
[17:20] <PE2BZ> Are you from UK or other place ?
[17:20] <lostcause_> oh, right, yeah need it quicker than that
[17:20] <lostcause_> yeah UK
[17:21] <lostcause_> well spotted
[17:22] <PE2BZ> A bit more expensive, but with metal case, SMA connector, 0,5 ppm frequency error http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Premium-RTL-SDR-USB-Stick-w-0-5PPM-TCXO-Metal-Case-SMA-R820T2-RTL2832U-/172255986744?hash=item281b41c438:g:I20AAOSwzJ5XbKyz
[17:23] <PE2BZ> Or plastic unit with adpater cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-RTL-ADS-B-Receiver-Set-MCX-to-SMA-Cable-Included-Feed-Flightradar24-/122113985682?hash=item1c6e8f8c92:g:UqEAAOSwPYZU20O1
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[17:26] <lostcause_> Found an £8 one goo.gl/l63QMm
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[17:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[17:42] <PE2BZ> Ok for me. However they mention an IEC connector as input the images show an MCX input. You should order an mcx to ?? adapter or wire your yagi to the wire of the magnetic antenna which comes with it.
[17:43] <PE2BZ> If you have no receiving SDR experience at all I would suggest to first play around abit with a PC and SDRSharp (SDR#) software. Assuming a Windows PC
[17:43] <PE2BZ> Then if you recognize how it works with tuning and gain settings switch to the Android setup
[17:45] <lostcause_> actually I use Ubuntu mainly
[17:45] <PE2BZ> Ubuntu works nicely with gqrx software which supports the rtl-sdr
[17:45] <lostcause_> Yeah seems I need to gain a bit more experience with SDR more generally to be confident what I'm doing, but I'll use the habduino anyway and see what happens.
[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5RXL-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5RXL-1
[17:46] <PE2BZ> There are smartphones running Ubuntu :-)
[17:46] <lostcause_> Unfortunately Canonical have abandoned the ubuntu phone
[17:47] <PE2BZ> To bad
[17:47] <PE2BZ> I have 3 web receivers running with 3 rtl-sdr dongles on one Ubuntu machine
[17:59] <mfa298> lostcause_: one thing that's worth doing is having a go at tracking other peoples balloons from home, that gives you a chance to test out your kit and skills when there's less pressure.
[18:00] <lostcause_> ok so to do that I would need what kind of antenna though?
[18:01] <Ian_> https://www.cosycave.co.uk/ is a good source of rtl dongles
[18:01] <cm13g09> mfa298: evening
[18:01] <Ian_> https://www.suws.org.uk/wp/suws-websdr/ this site uses multiple rtl dongles, slightly modified and run by craag who frequents this site.
[18:02] <mfa298> lostcause_: one option would be testing with the magmount on your car on a local hill, otherwise thingks like the x50 are popular
[18:02] <mfa298> cm13g09: evening
[18:02] <lostcause_> yeah the x50 looks impressive, but I'd have to save up for that
[18:02] <Ian_> ^^ +1. Good evening both, and others. Still smashing things?
[18:03] <cm13g09> Ian_: no, back in Southampton now
[18:03] <Ian_> I bet it was an interesting event. Are you with a team or the broadcaster?
[18:04] <Ian_> That equates to fixing bots or infrastructure/house-bots?
[18:04] <PE2BZ> lostcause_ what is your possible antenna height at home ?
[18:06] <lostcause_> right now, I'm in the fenlands, it's not too high!
[18:06] <cm13g09> Ian_: I was sat in the audience ;)
[18:06] <cm13g09> So I get the best of it all in a way
[18:06] <cm13g09> 0 stress, lots of exciting stuff
[18:06] <lostcause_> but the x50 is very tempting I must say.
[18:06] <lostcause_> how long can the cable be from the x50 to the computer?
[18:07] <Ian_> Ah, somehow I thought you were involved with the bits. But obviously very enjoyable.
[18:08] <cm13g09> Ian_: Not for that.... I am for other things of a similar kind
[18:08] <mfa298> lostcause_: length will depend partly on what coax you use, better (usually more expensive) coax will have lower loss per meter so you can have longer runs
[18:08] <lostcause_> I mean, is 100meters too much?
[18:08] <cm13g09> mfa298: Should I be worried that for a second there I thought you were talking about longer runs of a certain TV show until I read context :P
[18:09] <mfa298> or if it's a receive only setup you could get a preamp (like the habamp) and mount it near the antenna and use cheaper coax
[18:09] <lostcause_> I have a tower in a field about 100 meters away that I could place it on top of potentially.
[18:09] <Ian_> as short as is practical, but keep it under 10m. cable losses are not a friend but can be significant.
[18:09] <PE2BZ> lostcause_ do you have power in that tower ?
[18:10] <lostcause_> not at the moment no, what about solar power?
[18:10] <PE2BZ> Assuming you are only going to receive, you can place an rtl-dongle with raspberry Pi in the tower, have it run rtl-tcp and run 100 meter UTP cable to your network.
[18:10] <mfa298> something like WestFlex is 11dB loss over 100m - and would cost £150. Something cheaper could have 4x the loss.
[18:11] <mfa298> personally I'd probably want to keep the loss under 3dB
[18:11] <PE2BZ> mfa298 saves me typing
[18:11] <Ian_> :)
[18:11] <lostcause_> I like the pi idea a lot.
[18:11] <Ian_> is mfa298 really a PE2ZB bot?
[18:11] <Ian_> keyboard bot
[18:12] <PE2BZ> hit any key bored bot....
[18:12] <PE2BZ> and how high is that tower ?
[18:12] Action: mfa298 obviously needs a new keyboard, I don't see the any key :p
[18:13] <PE2BZ> Just turn your keyboard upside down. Then hit the back of it. After that, don´t forget to remove the bread crumbs ;-)
[18:13] <lostcause_> not that high, about 5 meters
[18:13] <PE2BZ> 5 meter heigh for 100 meter coax would be a no go !
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[18:14] <lostcause_> used to be used for clay pigeon launching. So no, not coax, but the pi idea might work if I can get enough power.
[18:14] <PE2BZ> 5 meter heigh with a Pi would be a nice idea.
[18:14] <PE2BZ> Power the pi with a battery pack which can be delivering when charged.
[18:15] <lostcause_> so the pi will use the dongle we were just talking about?
[18:15] <mfa298> You could probably arrange a >5m mast to put in your garden for less than the coax would cost for a 100m run
[18:16] <lostcause_> don't worry about the coax, we're talking utp now I thought
[18:16] <PE2BZ> lostcause_ indeed. The Pi runs rtl_tcp to wich gqrx can connect and tune and set gain and so on.
[18:16] <mfa298> might still be cheaper than getting utp suitable for outdoors (although some would argue utp and outdoors isn't a good option in any form)
[18:17] <lostcause_> I have plenty of utp outdoors already, I could possibly use wifi also
[18:17] <PE2BZ> but I am afk for the rest of the night. Parents in law did arrive and I can ignore them only for so little time
[18:18] <lostcause_> gnight, thanks for the help
[18:18] <mfa298> rtl_tcp over wifi isn't a good idea, it's very high bandwidth (~32mbps continuous)
[18:18] <PE2BZ> yw
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[18:24] <cm13g09> mfa298: I think, after the day I've had... the pub sounds like a good idea :P
[18:30] <Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_7-HT-VoAA4VRG.jpg:orig
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[22:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7NMO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7NMO-11
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[22:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[23:32] <Leyhart> is there an alternative to dl-fldigi for tracking? I have been at it for days trying to get it to work with Ubuntu 16.04, I haven't yet found anyone who has done it and written about it in a repeatable fashion online so far
[23:33] <Leyhart> I have even tried doing a build in docker with 14:04 linked to a pulse audio container, but that is becoming a totally seperate nightmare
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[23:42] <adamgreig> Leyhart: :(
[23:42] <adamgreig> there's not really any alternative if you want to receive RTTY messages and automatically upload to habitat
[23:42] <adamgreig> have you tried installing the .deb from the ppa (i think it's for ubuntu 14.04?)
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