highaltitude.log.20170516

[00:03] <russss> nope, that was just deduced from the noises people were making in the background
[00:03] <adamgreig> wonder how that flies
[00:04] <russss> it might have been the first stage actually, as someone else pointed out that they called stage 1 LOS just after those noises
[00:04] <russss> flappy, presumably
[00:04] <adamgreig> i mean if there's any powered control
[00:04] <russss> I think they've said they've got some RCS on it
[00:04] <russss> plus a parachute
[00:05] <adamgreig> neat
[00:05] <russss> I guess you could theoretically get a pretty decent glide ratio out of it
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[03:07] <hosler> hey so when i run gqrx via rtl_tcp i can decode my rtty signal just fine, but when i let gqrx use the dongle directly i cant. what is that all about?
[03:08] <hosler> i can still see the signal, but fldigi just comes back with garble
[03:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[04:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[05:06] <PE2BZ> hosler you can try either set fldigi to reverse or mode from USB to LSB (or otherwise) and see if it writes readable text
[05:07] <PE2BZ> !flights
[05:07] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
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[07:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FDK-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-15
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[08:14] <kokey> I didn't realise these lora modules are so small
[08:15] <kokey> I'm going to have to do something about my lacking soldering skill
[08:16] <fsphil> magnification :)
[08:16] <fsphil> makes everything a lot easier
[08:18] <gonzo_> the 'manual zoom' only works down to abvout 0604
[08:18] <gonzo_> then you start to burn the end of your nose with the iron
[08:19] <gonzo_> (0603 even)
[08:19] <kokey> haha
[08:20] <kokey> yeah I bought a clamp holder with a magnifying glass, a cheapie, but if it sortof works I'll get a better one
[08:22] <fsphil> I got a cheap set of headband magnifiers, kinda like http://i.imgur.com/vs8efj6.jpg
[08:22] <fsphil> works great for soldering
[08:22] <fsphil> looks silly
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[08:27] <kokey> my eyes are pretty good but maginification won't work, but I think I'm pretty bad at everything else really
[08:28] <kokey> like I used laundry pegs to hold things before which didn't work too well
[08:28] <kokey> and was just soldering wrong like how my dad showed my to solder together fishing gear when I was a kid
[08:30] <gonzo_> solderingsmd by hand is reasonably easy, whilst the chip sizes are manageable
[08:31] <gonzo_> I usually solder one pad, place the component with tweasers and hold it down with a little pressure on the top whilst I reflow the solder on that pad.
[08:31] <daey> same
[08:31] <gonzo_> if using no-clean flux, you have to reflux it before reflow
[08:32] <gonzo_> but a decent temp controled iron is a must
[08:32] <daey> i usually dont. then i do the 2nd side properly and then resolder the first
[08:32] <gonzo_> having a pot of liquid flux and an atrists paint brush is useful for that
[08:41] <kokey> yeah I bought some flux
[08:41] <kokey> but, tweezers, that's a point
[08:42] <kokey> I got some maplin branded temp controlled iron but I'm not sure how bad it is
[08:47] <gonzo_> if vsame as mine, actually not too bad
[08:50] <kokey> I did the put solder on the iron first thing
[08:50] <kokey> also never knew about flux until recently
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[08:52] <gonzo_> the alternative way is to use a syringe of solder paste, use a dot of that on one pad, than place the chip down and flow that with the iron. As it's one operation, you won't need to re-flux
[08:52] <gonzo_> though having a pot of liquid flux is very useful
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[09:12] <kokey> cool, I'll get some paste too then
[09:13] <kokey> now I really need to sort out the garage at our new house so I have a workspace
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[09:35] <daey> the problem with paste is, its expensive and it degrades in a matter of weeks
[09:36] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:36] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS22 434.637.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(ae52)
[09:36] <daey> an alternative is tack flux + solder on the iron tip
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[11:16] <Ian_> An extra pair of hands would help enormously.
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS22 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS22
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9HFJ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
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[11:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K5LSU-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K5LSU-11
[11:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5FPX-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5FPX-11
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5POJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5POJ-11
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5NBC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5NBC-11
[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-1
[12:39] <pb0ahx> !payload DELTA-1
[12:39] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YT3BZX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YT3BZX_chase
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LSUS1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LSUS1_chase
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[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Cool1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Cool1_chase
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[12:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5IZV_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5IZV_chase
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[13:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0ZTV-3 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-3
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[13:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC5
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[13:50] <pb0ahx> !payload BARC5
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5SYS-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5SYS-11
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[15:26] <Jordan_Stim> Hi guys :). I wondered if theres any way to deliberately slow down the data strings coming in without lowering the bandwith?
[15:26] <Jordan_Stim> This is for LoRa 868 Mhz.
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[15:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[15:36] <Jordan_Stim> hey guys :)
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[15:45] <PE2BZ> Are you into programming yourself ?
[15:46] <PE2BZ> The source is available, so for telemetry I assume you could add a delay ¨between the lines¨
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[15:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[15:57] <daveake> If this is pits, you can change the ratio of image packets to sentences.
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[17:04] <Ian_> I wonder why he would want to slow down the data/string rate . . . ?
[17:10] <PE2BZ> Perhaps for duty cycle / frequency / power output optimising ?
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[17:28] <Ian_> Hmmm, yep, that makes sense.
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[17:49] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping
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[19:29] <thathabguy> Hi everyone, I plan on ordering the NTX2B-FA 434Mhz from Uputronics and it says on their site to ask for advice on the ordering options here... So is there anything special to consider? Thanks in advance for any help
[19:30] <Ian_> Yes.
[19:30] <Ian_> Ping Upu
[19:33] <Ian_> The main idea is to get you familiar with this site and the community which can only be a large help to you, but there is a code(?) to put in at the checkout which is to your advantage.
[19:34] <Ian_> Not sure if it's UKHAS or NTX2B, (short memory here) so please be patient.
[19:34] <Ian_> ping Upu shop!
[19:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> I belive that has to do with if you want a spcific freq or if he just sends a random freq one
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[19:35] <Ian_> With the -FA it's not a concern and it is indeed as I have already stated, unless I have badly miscalculated.
[19:36] <thathabguy> Well I need it to send on a licence-exempt frequency in the EU, so probably the range the state (434.05000Mhz up to 434.781250Mhz) should be fine
[19:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> aha, frequency agile FA
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[19:39] <Ian_> Yes. I bet he's playing with the baby toys while she is asleep!
[19:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe
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[19:41] <Ian_> Where are you located thathabguy?
[19:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> hes loged out but looked like a DE adress hovering the mouse over his name
[19:43] <Ian_> Rgr I didn't think about that.
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[20:09] <Upu> evening
[20:09] <Upu> sorry baby things
[20:09] <Upu> hi thathabguy
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[20:15] <thathabguy_> sorry guys, I think I keep losing the connection (new to IRC). Did I miss anything?
[20:19] <Upu> nothing exciting no :)
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[20:44] Nick change: day_ -> day
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[20:55] <mfa298> cm13g09: laggy pong
[21:06] <cm13g09> mfa298: latent ping-pong
[21:06] <cm13g09> (hopefully not missed you by much)
[21:08] <mfa298> im still here
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[21:14] Action: Ian_ waves Hi
[21:15] Action: mfa298 waves back at Ian_
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[21:28] <Ian_> Sorry too late. I was wondering if you wanted to share custard and bannanas. . . all eaten now! :)
[21:28] <cm13g09> Ian_: heh
[21:29] Action: cm13g09 is probably in the wrong country.....
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[21:29] <Ian_> Oh, I didn't realise that it might have been a three way split. No, sharing is an international option.
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[21:31] <cm13g09> Ian_: lol
[21:31] <cm13g09> Banana splits?
[21:31] <Ian_> Mmmmmm!
[21:32] Action: cm13g09 is currently in Glasgow.... and while it isn't somewhere I'd go entirely by choice.... I am having a /smashing/ time while I'm here....
[21:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03123456_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=123456_chase
[21:35] <mfa298> don't you mean others are having a smashing time :p
[21:36] <cm13g09> mfa298: err....
[21:36] <cm13g09> well, yes, everyone's having a smashing time
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[21:40] <cm13g09> mfa298: I'd like to be having more of a smashing time than I am, that's for sure ;)
[21:40] <cm13g09> Bonus points now available for anyone who understands what "Glasgow" and "smashing time" have to do with each other
[21:41] <cm13g09> mfa298, craag, etc excluded
[21:41] <Ian_> A few pints of heavy with whiskey chasers :)
[21:42] <cm13g09> Ian_: I think if there was anything alcoholic involved, there would be a massive problem...
[21:42] <Ian_> I have obviously underestimated the situation
[21:43] <cm13g09> Ian_: Something tells me that repairing machinary under the influence would be a bad idea ;)
[21:44] <Ian_> Fair cop!
[21:44] <cm13g09> Clues will gradually get harder from here ;)
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[21:45] <cm13g09> Ian_: Any suggestions what might link those three things together, "repairing machinary", "smashing time" and "Glasgow"
[21:47] Action: craag waves a foam finger in the air from the back
[21:47] <cm13g09> OI craag :P
[21:48] <cm13g09> lol
[21:48] <cm13g09> Ian_: does that help at all?
[21:49] Action: Ian_ racks brains and whispers to Mr Google . . . thinking of large clocks and where they might be - St Georges Square?
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[21:52] Action: cm13g09 drops another clue at Ian_: Some of the machinary weighs over 100kg, and picking a fight with it isn't advisable.....
[21:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
[21:56] <Ian_> Sounds like you might be repairing demolition equipment . . .
[21:56] <cm13g09> Ian_: you're getting there
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[21:57] <Ian_> Has to be flats or dockyards
[21:57] <cm13g09> Ian_: wrong kind of demolition ;)
[21:57] <cm13g09> craag: Do you agree Ian_ is on the right kind of lines
[21:58] <craag> Yeah, I think he's going to need a bit more of a clue on the format though.
[21:59] <cm13g09> Ian_: The difference is, people can safely watch this destruction from <5m away.... behind some (probably) bulletproof glass...
[22:00] <mfa298> based on previous experience bulletproof might not be enough :p
[22:00] <Ian_> Sounds like munitions are involved. Maybe rockets?
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[22:01] <cm13g09> Ian_: The (fairly restrictive) rules say projectiles are not allowed ;)
[22:01] <Ian_> So it's an organised event?
[22:01] <cm13g09> Ian_: yes.....
[22:02] <cm13g09> and it might be largely funded by those who have TV licences.....
[22:02] <mfa298> I fear these hints are going in the pit
[22:03] <cm13g09> mfa298: Yeah.... might have to *activate* the "less subtle hints generator"
[22:04] <cm13g09> Ian_: mfa298 and I have possibly just hint-dropped two of the biggest hints imaginable
[22:04] <Ian_> Mining and TV antennas come to mind . . .
[22:05] <Ian_> Is a BBC TV station/antenna being decommissioned?
[22:05] <cm13g09> no.....
[22:05] <hosler> PE2BZ: THANKS. LSB did the trick
[22:05] <cm13g09> BBC though... you're on the right lines
[22:08] <cm13g09> The whole spectacle is hosted by the one and only Dara O'Briain and Angela Scanlon.... and presided over by three of the leading professors in their fields, one of whom is in their 19th year of doing this.
[22:09] <cm13g09> Ian_: that *should* be too much information
[22:10] <Ian_> Robot Wars
[22:10] <Ian_> Mr Google "bbc glasgow Dara O'Briain and Angela Scanlon" bingo
[22:10] <cm13g09> yep :P
[22:11] <cm13g09> I thought that *might* give it away lol
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[22:11] <Ian_> Hope that you are enjoying yourselves. I was way off track until you dropped the names.
[22:11] <cm13g09> heh
[22:11] <cm13g09> it's been a LOT of fun so far
[22:12] <cm13g09> 1 more day of recording tomorrow
[22:12] <cm13g09> (although it's only a couple of specials)
[22:12] <cm13g09> (main series got finished Monday night)
[22:13] <Ian_> I only see it intermittently.
[22:13] <cm13g09> Ian_: this next series will be good
[22:13] <cm13g09> not saying much more than that
[22:13] <cm13g09> but it will be good
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[22:14] <cm13g09> Just about everything gets smashed up..... including the arena, and anything vaguely within its confines lol
[22:14] <Ian_> I guess that it keeps a lot of people busy fixing things then.
[22:14] <cm13g09> yes
[22:14] <cm13g09> we had a nice two hour delay in filming yesterday AM
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[22:15] <cm13g09> while they dealt with some rather noxious gases that got left in the arena after something caught fire :P
[22:16] <Leyhart> Hi, newbie, built my first prototype using NTX2, found tx with gqrx and now wresting all night with dl-fldigi on Ubuntu 16.04, wondered if anyone else has managed?
[22:16] <cm13g09> anyway
[22:16] <cm13g09> I should a) stop hogging the channel, b) go to bed
[22:17] <cm13g09> mfa298: we should really arrange a pubbing at some point when I'm less "on fire" than I am now ;)
[22:17] <hosler> Leyhart: try LSB in gqrx
[22:17] <hosler> i had a problem where i had to use LSB with gqrx but USB with rtl_tcp
[22:18] <hosler> im also assuming you got the audio ported to fldigi
[22:19] <Leyhart> thx, I have managed to resolve that (had that problem too) now trying to pipe the audio using Pulse Audio to dl-fldigi but really struggling with it, fldigi no problem dl-fldigi proving to be a struggle
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[22:21] <Leyhart> hosler: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1494973223.png all looking well, audio piped, just getting dl-fldigi is my issue, thanks for the pointers
[22:25] <hosler> im about to be in that boat soon
[22:25] <hosler> gotta get dl-fldigi on rasbian
[22:26] <daveake> !wiki raspbian
[22:26] <SpacenearUS> 03daveake: Wiki page 03build-raspbian (proje&-fldigi) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-raspbian
[22:26] <SpacenearUS> 03daveake: Wiki page 03guides:raspberrypi - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:raspberrypi?s[]=raspbian
[22:26] <hosler> dang that was easy
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[22:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-24 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-24
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[23:19] <hosler> Leyhart: did you build dl-fldigi with pulseaudio support
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