highaltitude.log.20170515

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[00:43] <hosler> hey
[00:43] <hosler> hey fallas
[00:43] <hosler> i got linux and fldigi, but how do i get fldigi to talk to habhub
[00:45] <mfa298> you need dl-fldigi if you want it to talk to habhub
[00:45] <daveake> You need dl-fldigi rather than fldigi
[00:45] <hosler> hmm is there linux build for that
[00:45] <Ian_> hosler you need dl_fldigi which is based upon fldigi but includes the distributed listener function
[00:45] <mfa298> there are instructions on the wiki
[00:45] <mfa298> !wiki dl-fldigi
[00:46] <SpacenearUS> 03mfa298: Found 035 results for you query - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/start?do=search&id=dl-fldigi
[00:46] <hosler> nice
[00:47] <Ian_> https://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[00:47] <mfa298> try some of the build links on ... where he said
[00:47] <hosler> if it has the same deps as fldigi i think i can work with the source
[00:48] <Ian_> documentation updated by daveake ^^ earlier this year
[00:48] <mfa298> there a couple of extra bits you might need
[00:48] Action: Ian_ ears pricked up already
[00:49] <hosler> okay next question. does habhub allow me to test
[00:49] <mfa298> https://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-raspbian looks fairly concise if you want spmething to point at the right steps
[00:50] <hosler> looks like cur is the extra dep
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[00:50] <hosler> maybe jpeg too
[00:50] <mfa298> if you've got a payload transmitting and have created a suitable payload doc for it then it should appear on the map if you use dl-fldigi to upload
[00:51] <mfa298> there's also a git submodule
[00:51] <hosler> mfa298: ok. i just dont wanna get banned or something for having my payload show on habhub when it's not an actual flight
[00:52] <mfa298> testing is actively encouraged
[00:52] <hosler> curl*
[00:52] <hosler> ok sweet
[00:52] <Ian_> Testing is encouraged. Everything in moderation . . . this is not the APRS community we don't get peeved
[00:52] <mfa298> you wont get a flight doc approved (only needed when your ready to fly) if you havn't tested the payload
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[00:52] <daveake> Lol
[00:53] <daveake> (APRS)
[00:53] <Ian_> Does hosler need a payload doc to get on the map from dl_fldigi?
[00:53] <hosler> ive been thinking about using APRS in conjunction with my current radio telemetry
[00:54] <daveake> Yes Ian_
[00:55] <Ian_> Thought so but there was a small doubt.
[00:55] <mfa298> people are occasionally asked to stop transmitting if they're spamming the logs and people are trying to debug another payload thats not working, but thats rare.
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[00:58] <hosler> ohh man so close
[00:58] <hosler> just need helium and testing
[00:59] <Ian_> Go to http://habitat.habhub.org/ and select the genpayload option.
[01:00] <Ian_> Helium comes after the testing . . . :)
[01:02] <daveake> Wishful thinking
[01:02] <Ian_> Ha ha, I'm off to dream about bacon rolls
[01:02] <hosler> is duct taping payload to drone a good testing method
[01:04] <Ian_> Probably not. Just test it locally at home and then separate things by a hundred metres or so with a fair line of sight. That should sort out any dodgy SMA RSMA connector issues that might have crept in.
[01:05] <Ian_> Throwing it down stairs is highly recommended, but only the final version!
[01:05] <Ian_> You could also try it with a breadboarded version and have another entry into daveakes How to lose your package document
[01:06] <Ian_> added into
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[01:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-24 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-24
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[07:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[11:22] <Darkside> there 'tis
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS22 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS22
[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9HFJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BAPY051_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BAPY051_chase
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[13:55] <Daedalus__> hi. how far in advance should i reques my planned flight to be approved? Thank you
[14:01] <gonzo_> for habhub or CAA ?
[14:03] <Ian_> It might be good to allow just over 24hrs for a flight document, with a tested payload appearing on the map, in case Admins are busy. Not to be confused with CAA approval and NOTAM request which is better than 28 days notice.
[14:03] <Ian_> in the UK
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[14:07] <Daedalus__> for habhub... thank you to all who have responded.
[14:08] <gonzo_> a payload doc can be lodged at any time and allows you to test. Then the flight doc lodged as soon as you know what day you are flying. For example you may ask CAA for a notal for a few dates, then decide closer to the time when you actually want to fly.
[14:09] <gonzo_> a day or two notice on habhub of the flight, should give people a bit of notice to be able to set their receive stations up for you.
[14:11] <Daedalus__> thats great... thank you. 1st time four our group, its been a steep learning curve!
[14:17] <gonzo_> no probs.
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[14:19] <gonzo_> Just make sure you have read all the things on the UKHAS site. Particularly the 'how to lose your payload' text. A very important list of things to do/not to do.
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[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
[18:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[19:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TKE-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-12
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[19:37] <hyte> does anyone know if there is a pubx command to change the frequency of messages on ublox or must it be done differently?
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[19:51] <edmoore> hyte: the ublox 8 protocol description manual probably knows
[19:51] <edmoore> Always better to consult it before interneters
[19:52] <hyte> I had a look but it only seemed to have about 4 pubx commands, it seemed to mention message rate but only for on and off
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[20:01] <edmoore> I'm on phone so datasheets are a pain but i believe from memory and a scan it's in cfg-msg
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[22:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0135 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0135
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[22:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-24 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-24
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[23:12] <adamgreig> spacex webcast is go
[23:12] <fsphil> still no tech stream
[23:12] <adamgreig> :(
[23:12] <fsphil> no offence to the presenter :)
[23:13] <fsphil> be nicer just to have rocket noises
[23:14] <adamgreig> yep
[23:14] <adamgreig> no recovery either :(
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> No intentional recovery this time.
[23:14] <fsphil> wonder why
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> It's a satellite going to geostationary orbit
[23:15] <SpeedEvil> The intent was to give the payload as much energy as possible
[23:15] <fsphil> didn't they manage recovery from a geo launch before?
[23:15] <SpeedEvil> 'burn to depletion' rather than a specific orbit
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> yes, but the more delta-v the rocket gives, the less the satellite needs
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> Also it may be heavier - not checked
[23:16] <adamgreig> wonder if they charge their cusomters more for a non-recoverable flight
[23:16] <fsphil> yeah didn't think of payload weight
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> adamgreig: yes
[23:19] <fsphil> weird vent clouds there
[23:20] <russss> adamgreig: I think they're planning to but not yet
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
[23:25] <SpeedEvil> They implicitly do in that they charge more for very heavy payloads AIUI
[23:25] <russss> well, nobody knows anything more than the standard price
[23:26] <russss> lovely images
[23:26] <russss> https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/864260528826445824
[23:28] <fsphil> crowd getting excited there
[23:28] <russss> they did something with the first stage
[23:29] <russss> I dunno what. Landed it on a cloud or something.
[23:29] <fsphil> lol
[23:29] <russss> oh no, they landed the fairing!
[23:29] <russss> clearly
[23:30] <SpeedEvil> EMdrive landing. Propellantless.
[23:30] <russss> on the bouncy castle
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[23:31] <fsphil> sunset
[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
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[23:58] <adamgreig> any video of the fairing landing?
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