highaltitude.log.20170511

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[01:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[03:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Susel_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Susel_chase
[04:19] <heathkid> where is KF7FER?
[04:19] <heathkid> dead?
[04:20] <heathkid> I'm getting tired of my friends dieing...
[04:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
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[06:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[08:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icarusIV after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icarusIV
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[08:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC5
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[09:05] <tridor> Hello, yesterday I put in a request to approve my flight(Infinity) taking place tomorrow. Please could you let me know when it has been approved or if there are any issues with the information I have provided? Thank you :-)
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[09:07] <AndyEsser> tridor: take the flight doc id, and paste it in #habhub
[09:07] <AndyEsser> you will then see if it's approved
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[09:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> tridor, you need to paste the FLIGHT DOC number in to #HABHUB channel
[09:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> He is still showing in the list but not reading the test obviously!
[09:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> tridor you need to /J #hahub and post th Flight Doc ID nuber
[10:01] <tridor> Ok, just done that. checking to see if approved.............
[10:07] <tridor> flight approved, thanks everyone!
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[10:17] <WillDuckworth> What's the current PCB software of choice these days? Eagle and/or KiCad still good to use?
[10:22] <nick_> I use kicad, just make sure you get a fairly recent release (ubuntu default package is ancient, I think)
[10:24] <russss> kicad is (still) more of a fiddle than eagle
[10:24] <russss> but it's good once you get going
[10:24] <WillDuckworth> cool, thanks
[10:25] <WillDuckworth> used a bit of both a while ago - so just will continue, cheers
[10:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03UBSEDS24 434.635 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2536)
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[10:49] <swaledale_SteveJ> Be good to announce your flight via the google group and get it on the calendar
[10:49] <swaledale_SteveJ> if you wish to maximise the hope of people helping you track
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[10:57] <gonzo_> (registering on habhub will get you on the calander.The announcement on the group is separate thing.)
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[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ECSHAB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ECSHAB
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS24 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS24
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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[11:30] <Ian_> WillDuckworth, I think that a few months ago Eagle became deprecated as the first choice PCB software as I believe it changed hands and is now either less able or less free than it was. I'm sure that adamgreig could give you a heads up on the situation.
[11:31] <Ian_> Kicad is apparently the recommendation for going forward.
[11:34] <WillDuckworth> Thanks, will check it out
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[13:13] <Jordan> Hey guys!
[13:14] Nick change: Jordan -> Guest48106
[13:14] <fsphil> ahoy
[13:14] <Guest48106> My 868 LoRa boards have been delivered. How does my frequency band get allocated to me? and whats my parameters?
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[13:16] <fsphil> you don't get allocated anything. there are ranges of frequencies available for use without license, you stay within those
[13:16] <fsphil> what country are you in?
[13:16] <Guest48106> I'm in the UK :)
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Guest48106, 868 is a shared band, you choose the frequency and set it and the parameters you want to use in software, different parts of the band allow different bandwidths etc. so need to read the regs.
[13:16] <Guest48106> I was under the impression that they were allocated with new boards
[13:17] <fsphil> the UK rules are here: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiYyoC09ufTAhXqCsAKHV0pCWIQFggjMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ofcom.org.uk%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0028%2F84970%2Fir_2030-june2014.pdf
[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No its shared for everyone you compete
[13:17] <fsphil> bah, google's silly urls
[13:17] <fsphil> https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/84970/ir_2030-june2014.pdf
[13:18] <Guest48106> I've read this document before. I don't seem to know what information to look for?
[13:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> everybody shares bandwidth / bend segements as otherwise the band would never be fully used all the time, there isn't enough channels for personal use!
[13:18] <fsphil> look for non-specific short-range devices
[13:18] <Guest48106> Yeah thats where i thought.
[13:19] <fsphil> you can use any of those
[13:19] <fsphil> though some sections have conditions
[13:19] <fsphil> like how much power, or how often you can transmit
[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You need to read up and understand what you want to use and why and then look for a segement that suits your needs.
[13:19] <fsphil> some are not allowed to be used in the air, though I think all the 869mhz one are fine for airbourne
[13:19] <Guest48106> Okay to for 869 modules, should i be looking at 865-868, or 868 - 869.7
[13:19] <adamgreig> realistically there's only one or two segments in that entire huge document that apply
[13:20] <adamgreig> would be useful if someone cut those out and stuck them on the wiki probably
[13:20] <fsphil> mmm
[13:20] <Guest48106> Yeah Thier particularly hard to find.
[13:20] <daveake> Actually I have such a thing
[13:20] <adamgreig> is it already in the pits docs lol
[13:20] <daveake> Somewhere. I'll dig it out and post it
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Thins canand do change, not often I wpuld say, but then its out of date an no one realises!
[13:20] <daveake> ah lol
[13:20] <adamgreig> well I guess idk where Guest48106's lora boards are from
[13:21] <Guest48106> uptronics :)
[13:21] <fsphil> I've heard of them, they seem alright
[13:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :)
[13:21] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GpUiy6dV/image.png
[13:22] <fsphil> Very, lol
[13:22] <Guest48106> So i'm looking on page 20 of the PDF, theres 865-868 or 868-869.7
[13:22] <daveake> Yeah ... maybe I should remove that for the 1mW one :)
[13:22] <fsphil> very (short range)
[13:22] <daveake> yup
[13:23] <Guest48106> can a 868 loRa board do 869?
[13:23] <daveake> yes
[13:23] <Guest48106> or is 868 the maximum?
[13:23] <fsphil> yeah
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> covers the whole range
[13:23] <fsphil> we just use 868 or 869 as a shorthand name
[13:23] <Guest48106> oh brilliant, So i can safely allocate 250 kHz now?
[13:23] <daveake> Centres on 869.85
[13:24] <daveake> centred
[13:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If you really need it, not always best way to go, depends what your doing
[13:24] <fsphil> have you used the 5mw 100% 300 khz mode at all daveake?
[13:24] <daveake> Yep
[13:24] <fsphil> how was the range
[13:24] <daveake> 50 miles ish
[13:24] <fsphil> that's not bad
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[13:25] <daveake> which is probably handy in case multiple people around the country want to fly that band at the same time :)
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[13:27] <fsphil> geographical multiplexing
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[13:38] <swaledale_SteveJ> daveake's table needs the tea bag analogy adding :)
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[13:42] <dbrooke> I don't drink tea so it didn't help me 8-)
[13:43] <swaledale_SteveJ> lol
[13:43] <swaledale_SteveJ> a column with a simple 'colour of tea' swatch would suffice :D
[13:43] <murb> dbrooke: coffee fiend!
[13:44] <dbrooke> murb: and certain other drinks, as you may have observed
[13:46] <dbrooke> I do have a box of tea bags intended for visitors. The fact that it's best before April 2008 might explain why I don't get many folk dropping in for a cuppa
[13:47] <dbrooke> I could use them to test the analogy though
[13:48] <Ian_> Hmmmmm.
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[13:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0ZTV-3 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-3
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[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Soton - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Soton
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6VWH - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6VWH
[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_S1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_S1
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[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_SKY after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_SKY
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SNMOBILE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SNMOBILE_chase
[15:25] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-3
[15:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03Philippine Sea 10(16.27274,145.37881) at 0314332 meters about 033 days ago
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[15:37] <WillDuckworth> daveake - how's your PaPiRus balloon locator going? Used in anger yet?
[15:39] <daveake> On the shelf at the mo waiting for me to get some time to finish it
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[15:40] <WillDuckworth> I do like the concept - I can see it being used for a 'where's my rocket' project
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[15:55] <cm13g09> richardeoin: ping?
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[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SV3CIX-1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX-1_chase
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[19:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S-24 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-24
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[19:47] <tridot> Hello, I had my flight approved today. Do I need to do anything else to advertise it so it could be tracked by others if my tracker fails?
[19:48] <daveake> Post details of your flight in the mailing list
[19:48] <daveake> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas
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[19:50] <tridot> This list? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas-launches
[19:50] <daveake> No, the one I linked
[19:51] <tridot> ooopp, missed your link, thank you!
[19:53] <fsphil> don't remember ukhas-launches
[19:54] <daveake> It was mentioned a few confs ago as somewhere to just post launches
[19:55] <daveake> Got created but that's about it
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[19:56] <swaledale_SteveJ> always wondered where that group came from, seems its hardly been used
[20:03] <tridot> I have just posted details of our launch (Infinity 1) tomorrow. Thanks all
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[20:27] <tridot> FYI- This Link which I understand is incorrect for posting launches https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/ukhas-launches I got from the front page of http://habhub.org/
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[21:17] <ECSHAB> Hello there Habbers
[21:18] <ECSHAB> I plan to launch a balloon on Sunday morning
[21:18] <ECSHAB> Weather is looking good
[21:18] <ECSHAB> 361e95548049f85dd60e2fa085b14f66
[21:18] <ECSHAB> Can I have the flight document approved?
[21:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> paste that doc nr in #habhub channel
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[21:56] <daveake> We could so do with a bot for that
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[22:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03eva_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=eva_chase
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[22:15] <fsphil> eva_chase, for when you get a bit too near space
[22:18] <daveake> might need a new chase icon for the map
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[22:57] <swaledale_SteveJ> +1 for a post-in-habhub-bot
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YPADSONDE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YPADSONDE
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