highaltitude.log.20170501

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[01:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PB11BW8316_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB11BW8316_chase
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[05:41] <PE2BZ> !flights
[05:41] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: There are no flights currently :(
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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP8IZA-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP8IZA-1
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[08:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL0RL-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0RL-11
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[08:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=-11
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[09:55] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:55] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: There are no flights currently :(
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[11:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NO1LIC-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NO1LIC-12
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UTCO_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UTCO_chase
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[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PB11BW8316_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB11BW8316_chase
[12:28] <M0RJX> !flights
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03M0RJX: There are no flights currently :(
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[13:09] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EzQpkQ1etdA#t=1589 - SpaceX - final stages of landing - looks almost cartoon bad unrealistic rocket fire from this angle.
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[14:49] <jiffe> maybe it is
[14:49] <jiffe> spacex faked the rocket landings, it was all done on a cartoon drawing board
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[15:14] <PE2BZ> !whereis ubseds21
[15:14] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[15:14] <PE2BZ> !whereis ubseds22
[15:14] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: 03UBSEDS22 was over 03Sept-RivièresCaniapiscau, QC, Canada 10(51.7316,-69.90819) at 0311515 meters about 037 days ago
[15:14] <PE2BZ> !whereis ubseds23
[15:14] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[15:15] <PE2BZ> !whereis ubseds24
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[15:15] <SA6BSS-Mike> !whereis BSS5
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: 03BSS5 was over 03United States 10(59.60416,-143.79167) at 039540 meters about 0315 hours ago
[15:24] <M0RJX> any maths geeks out there who know how to calculate the elevation between two gps coordinates lat,lng,alt ?
[15:25] <M0RJX> I have GC Distance and Bearing
[15:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Might help ? https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/58923/calculate-view-angle
[15:29] <PE2BZ> fldigi does it, can´t you borrow their code from Github ?
[15:34] <lz1dev> M0RJX: https://github.com/rossengeorgiev/habitat-mobile-tracker/blob/db8fac7e328a212a056251f642bf1fda4b0408ee/js/tracker.js#L165-L205
[15:35] <M0RJX> PE2BZ, I'll have a look
[15:35] <M0RJX> Geoff-G8DHE-M, thanks for that I've got the other two working on the lora-gateway
[15:43] <M0RJX> PE2BZ, xxx Perfect !!! Food shout
[15:43] <M0RJX> Good
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[15:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS24 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS24
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[16:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GKCNST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GKCNST
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[16:09] <Laurenceb__> !whereis HIRFW-3
[16:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03ình L­p, L¡ng S¡n, Vietnam 10(21.48107,106.96215) at 0313999 meters about 03a day ago
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[16:17] <Jerry__> !flights
[16:17] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry__: There are no flights currently :(
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[16:42] <M0RJX> daveake, et al ... http://i.imgur.com/f7CgkqB.png
[16:43] <M0RJX> See new telemetry line :-)
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[16:59] <PE2BZ> M0RJX good to hear :-)
[17:00] <PE2BZ> I´ll take it ;-)
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[18:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[18:12] <jiffe> is there a better image compression type besides jpeg for high altitude photographs to maximize size/quality ratio?
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> jiffe: yes.
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> In that there is a way to compress jpegs losslessly
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> jiffe: do you mean for transmission?
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> And for a one or two way link
[18:15] <jiffe> SpeedEvil: for transmissions yes, link would be two way
[18:15] <SpeedEvil> https://github.com/google/guetzli compresses jpegs losslessly by 20% or so, from memory often
[18:16] <jiffe> ah sweet
[18:17] <mfa298> there's also been a bit of testing of the bpg image format
[18:17] <SpeedEvil> wait - that's not what I was thinking of
[18:17] <mfa298> https://bellard.org/bpg/
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[18:20] <SpeedEvil> That's not it either - it was an encoder for jpegs that reduced the size, while remaining bit-identical if you re-expanded it later
[18:20] <SpeedEvil> (but there are several reasonable alternatives)
[18:21] <SpeedEvil> Carefully picking the size may be a better option though
[18:21] <SpeedEvil> especially if you can download thumbnails, and then say 'I want those ones'
[18:22] <mfa298> bpg is an alternate format, but usually much better quality for a given filesize (or smaller files for a given quality)
[18:22] <mfa298> but there's already some support in existing hab code for that (it's what richardeoin has been testing on some of the ubseds flights)
[18:24] <fsphil> it's not much different at the higher quality levels
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> if you've got bidirectional, then it's pretty much irrelevant.
[18:24] <fsphil> bpg it produces a better "bad" image though
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> As the vast saving will be by pulling nice pictures only
[18:25] <fsphil> jpeg is easier to break apart into chunks too
[18:25] <fsphil> though if you've a two-way link, this isn't as important
[18:25] <SpeedEvil> jpeg is somewhat redundant and can be recovered
[18:25] <SpeedEvil> byt that
[18:26] <SpeedEvil> But bidirectionality isn't usually free
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[18:33] <jiffe> free as in beer or free as in speech
[18:34] <fsphil> free as in time
[18:35] <jiffe> ah, well shooting up a small command is relatively free
[18:36] <jiffe> if you're going to grab thumbnails to determine the next step(s) there'd be cost there
[18:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GKCPWS2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GKCPWS2
[18:36] <SpeedEvil> what sort of bandwidth are you thinking?
[18:37] <jiffe> not much at all, right now probably 1200 baud
[18:37] <fsphil> that's super fast :)
[18:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> isnt Darkside using some sort of higher quality /bitrate for his flights?
[18:38] <fsphil> 115200 baud :)
[18:38] <fsphil> (ish)
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[18:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats something :)
[18:39] <fsphil> it's very impressive seeing it work
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[19:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03propel_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=propel_chase
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[19:25] <jiffe> that is pretty sweet
[19:26] <jiffe> I think the maximum baud I'd see is 9600
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[19:34] <fsphil> I got 2400 out of fldigi a while back, but it wasn't happy about it
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[19:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS5 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS5
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[21:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03natural_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=natural_chase
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03doll_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=doll_chase
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