highaltitude.log.20170425

[00:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03roseangeorge@gmail.com_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=roseangeorge%40gmail.com_chase
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[03:01] <Oddstr13> any thoughts on this GPS module? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14239
[03:02] <Darkside> unless someone has flight-tested and confirmed they maintain lock in a high-altitude balloon situation, i would avoid
[03:03] <Oddstr13> not really planning a HAB, just generic ground positioning
[03:03] <Darkside> oh, dunno then
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[03:07] <Oddstr13> looks like it is easily solderable, and the external components are more or less limited to the antenna, RTC backup and power conditioning
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[03:08] <Oddstr13> if you have something in a simmilar form factor you'd recommend, I'm all ears
[03:08] <Darkside> any of the ublox modules?
[03:08] <Darkside> i.e. the MAX-8 series
[03:08] <Darkside> they have a very similar form factor
[03:13] <Oddstr13> hmm, they have cm precission modules too I see.. good to know if I feel like playing with surveying stuff some time
[03:27] <Oddstr13> CAM-M8 looks nice
[03:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[03:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03apu_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=apu_chase
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[05:24] <PE2BZ> !flights
[05:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Egg 207 10(6f0b), 03GILBERD 10(0db5)
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[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-8 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-8
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[07:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ssss_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ssss_chase
[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JOAL02 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL02
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[07:39] <buzz53> Sorry for the short notice, but could somebody please authorise SSC02 for today, thanks!
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[07:40] <craag> buzz53: Post the flight doc id in #habhub and ask there.
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LHS_S1 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LHS_S1
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[08:46] <hyde00001> PITS image question - having installed exiv2 is there anything else I need to do to tag jpegs with GPS data? Any option that needs setting??? Can't seem to get it to work...
[08:55] <daveake> That's it.
[08:56] <daveake> The gps data goes in the comments field
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
[08:58] <hyde00001> any chance you can share an exemplar jpeg as I don't see it...
[09:00] <hyde00001> would like to rule out I'm looking at jpeg in wrong way...
[09:01] <daveake> Have a look in the process_image.sample file - that shows the exiv2 command for extracting the data
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[09:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JOAL03 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOAL03
[09:33] <SBlair> I have established that the pupil who setup the sense hat to work with our pits board only progrmmed it to write the data to a CSV file. I would like to test the payload in its current configuration but would ultimately like to add the sense hat data to the transmitted data. Dave A - that is what the sensors.py code you sent does?
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[09:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS22 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS22
[09:41] <richardeoin> ^ more backlog
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[09:49] <daveake> SBlair: The sensors.py is part of the standard distribution - not something I sent. It builds a CSV file with a line every few seconds. If PITS is configured to read that file (you said yesterday that it was) then it will automatially add the last line from that file to the telemetry.
[09:50] <daveake> iirc it's "external_data=<filename>" to set that up
[09:51] <daveake> It used to be that this was only implemented for LoRa, but I added it to RTTY a few weeks ago
[09:54] <pb0ahx> GM all
[09:54] <hyde00001> daveake - as you knew already, I can confirm the data stored on the PITS itself is tagged can be extracted with exiv2 -pc, the way I was looking at files on OSX doesn't reveal the data...
[09:55] <daveake> :)
[09:55] <hyde00001> FWIW, files received over SSDV (perhaps unsurprisingly) don't have the GPS data included
[09:56] <daveake> Yes, unsurprising :)
[09:57] <fsphil> would make the header rather large :)
[09:57] <daveake> VSSDV
[09:57] <fsphil> hah
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[09:58] <buzz53_> Any chance of getting SSC02 approved please? Ta, Alan
[09:58] <buzz53_> quit
[09:58] <daveake> Try in #habhub
[09:58] <AndyEsser> need to paste the flight id into #habhub
[09:59] <daveake> Someone write a bot that looks for "approve please" and autojoins the poster to #habhub :-)
[09:59] <buzz53_> Thanks
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[10:11] <cm13g09> daveake: or relays it at very least
[10:15] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Just a response here would be enough with our standard reply!
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[10:20] <SBlair> Dave - I also note from the 'getting on the map' page that if I am using a pi A or B with the original Pits board (not Pi Z?) then the battery current field is not sent. Having made that change to the payload doc I still don't see my payload on the map
[10:22] <daveake> Have you looked at the logtail ?
[10:22] <SBlair> Dave - I was misinformed (or misinterpreted) what the pupil told me regarding the csv data file for the sense hat. The trouble is exams have started so he has dropped everything to study but we need to launch before school ends - i have a new job. the pressure is on!
[10:23] <SBlair> I have zero experience of python coding so anything on that side will be from scratch (haha)
[10:23] <daveake> I suggest you just log the sense data and don't bother trying to add it to the telemetry
[10:24] <daveake> As for the Pi A/B thing, you obviously aren't using either because the Sense HAT won't fit on one of those!
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[10:49] <SBlair> ah...I had to review the list of Pi devices to clarify that. I am using a Pi 2 model B
[10:52] <SBlair> the Pi 1's had A and A+, B and B+ so the older A and B models are the ones that do not send battery current data.
[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DISC1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DISC1
[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PILORA after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILORA
[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03XX after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI3G after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI3G
[10:58] <daveake> woo, actually over 3G this time
[10:59] <daveake> Or 2G :/ Stupid O2
[11:02] <SBlair> the parser logtail doesn't seem to be registering the payload 'breadalbane' and I can't see it on the map.
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[11:04] <SBlair> tracker running - Y, GPS lock - unknown, decoding - Y, online - Y, internet conn - Y payload doc saved - Y, payload matches tracker settings - Y (as far as can be established without checking the source code)
[11:04] <daveake> Unfortunately, DISC1 is doing a bit of spamming in the logtail, so I'm not sure if you're uploading or not
[11:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You do have dl-fldigi online ?
[11:06] <daveake> Also .... your payload doc says 435.251MHz ... is that correct? Legal range is 434.04-434.79
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[11:08] <daveake> Ah right your payload doc says 435... in the description but 434... in the radio settings
[11:08] <daveake> Typo then, I assume
[11:08] <PE2BZ> !flights
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Egg 207 10(6f0b), 03GILBERD 10(0db5)
[11:08] <PE2BZ> !dial 0db5
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03XABEN0 10(0db5): 03644.397 MHz
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03GILBERD 10(0db5): 03644.397 MHz
[11:09] <PE2BZ> That looks like another frequency typo...
[11:11] <SBlair> 434.251 is the correct freq and fldigi is online
[11:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> On the status line of dl-fldigi at the bottom does it say its sent the latest data to the server, it displays it for a few seconds
[11:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> or can you post a screen grab to imgur.com and link it here ?
[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XABEN0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XABEN0
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[11:19] <Andrew_M0NRD> is the callsign case sensitive? you say "breadalbane" but the latest payload doc says "Breadalbane"
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GILBERD after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GILBERD
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[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS5
[11:39] <garymortimer> Steve's live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94i2ySQhCk
[11:39] <Reb-SM0ULC> coolers
[11:42] <pb0ahx> nice
[11:43] <Darkside> oh my god steve has a green screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-K1ejnySjc
[11:43] <Darkside> bahahaha
[11:43] <Darkside> that background
[11:43] <pb0ahx> ho is steve ?
[11:43] <fsphil> lol
[11:44] <pb0ahx> the long one
[11:44] <fsphil> I think that's my android background
[11:44] <michal_f> that greenscreen is better quality than many so called "professional' here in warsaw !
[11:45] <fsphil> aww he didn't keep the greenscreen on for the other bit
[11:46] <fsphil> needs to add a bit of silent time between the camera guy going "Go" and him talking
[11:48] <daveake> Just testing my live streaming payload --> 3G --> youtube
[11:48] <daveake> Less interesting than Steve's :)
[11:48] <daveake> https://www.youtube.com/user/choccydonuts/live
[11:49] <fsphil> buzz!
[11:50] <fsphil> kitty!
[11:50] <daveake> He turned up voluntarily!
[11:50] <fsphil> stealing the show
[11:52] <daveake> Hopefully he won't be flying
[11:55] <daveake> Anyhoo 3 network works fine, unlike O2
[11:55] <daveake> and unlike O2's coverage map
[11:59] <kokey> o2's coverage map is a work of fiction
[11:59] <Darkside> i dont get how you have such shit phone networks
[12:00] <AndyEsser> Darkside: the same way you guys have horrific internet networks
[12:00] <AndyEsser> short sighted politicians
[12:00] <daveake> I moved from O2 to 3 over a year ago, but when I checked O2's map last week (well, giffgaff's, but same thing) it claimed good 3G coverage here so I thought I'd give it a try
[12:00] <Darkside> AndyEsser: well we do have pretty amazing phone coverage
[12:00] <Darkside> at least on Telstra
[12:00] <AndyEsser> you have to be the first Ozzie I know who doesn't call them Shitstra :P
[12:01] <daveake> The lohan flight in Spain was great - 3G everywhere
[12:01] <AndyEsser> Darkside: is that not just a function of the fact that you have large distances to cover, and no historic network to maintain
[12:01] <AndyEsser> same way many developing countries are skipping the landlines and going straight to 3g cell coverage etc
[12:01] <fsphil> I drove 500km in oz and never lost 3G, so yeah it is pretty good
[12:01] <kokey> I think in the UK it's a case of mobile operators doing it on the cheap.
[12:01] <daveake> 500km hardly gets you from one town to the next
[12:01] <Darkside> lol
[12:01] <Darkside> not quite
[12:01] <AndyEsser> that's popping to the neighbour for a cup of sugar
[12:01] <AndyEsser> :P
[12:01] <fsphil> wasn't far of that
[12:01] <kokey> friends of mine who worked in the mobile industry in other countries, then the UK, is always amazed how many subscribers are supported by so few equipment
[12:02] <Darkside> daveake: had an interesting experienxe with a 2000g pawan last weekend
[12:02] <Darkside> reinforcing my view that they are not good.
[12:02] <Darkside> filled to what the calc said should be fine
[12:02] <Darkside> launched, ended up with low ascent rate
[12:02] <daveake> I so hate Pawans
[12:02] <kokey> back in the day when a country in Africa or the Middle East wanted to roll out a mobilke network, Ericsson would send out their alpha sales team and convince whoever to buy like lots of the best kit to have plenty of good supply (and a big order from the vendor)
[12:03] <Darkside> and then the balloon burst 5km early anyway
[12:03] <daveake> Not had one work properly yet
[12:03] <Darkside> also the ascent rate increased to 5m/s (intended rate) above about 20km alt
[12:03] <Darkside> so not sure what was going on there
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[12:05] <SBlair> got kicked off for a while there! yes, still no sign on the parser logtail for 'breadalbane' - I have relocated the payload near a window and note that neither the warning or ok LEd's are lit. Previously the warning light had been flashing.
[12:05] <kokey> stupid question, but when a latex balloons pops is it loud? I've got a 3ft one at home that I inflate to amuse my 3 year old son but my wife has this pathological fear of it since she thinks the big balloon will have a big bang
[12:05] <SIbot16> In real units: 3 ft = 0.91 m
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[12:07] <craag> SBlair: Can you post a screenshot of dl-fldigi?
[12:12] <SBlair> I have a screenshot on my clipboard - where do I paste it?
[12:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> go to http://imgur.com and post it there then paste the link on here
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[12:16] <SBlair> that site is blocked by the school security system....arghhhh!
[12:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> do you have any other web space anywhere you can post it on ?
[12:19] <SBlair> no.
[12:20] <AndyEsser> if you're at a school with proxy/firewall - it's likely the upload from dl-fldigi is also being blocked
[12:20] <AndyEsser> we've seen that before
[12:20] <mfa298> I think there have been cases of school security systems blocking uploads from dl-fldigi, so that might also be the issue.
[12:20] <SBlair> I can see the decoding software is recognising our payload name and there is some image data coming through although it seems very slowly - hasn't updated the image in the last minute or so
[12:20] <mfa298> snap
[12:21] <AndyEsser> does fldigi do a PUT/POST to habhub, or something else?
[12:21] <mfa298> it's something like that.
[12:23] <daveake> POST
[12:24] <AndyEsser> hmm, it's weird that so often it seems to get blocked
[12:28] <SBlair> yes, I am getting an error along the lines of.....couldn't connect to server, which is annoying given that I had requested IT fix the connection issue some weeks back. It seems that was not resolved and the trail went cold as I tried to sort other issues out. Working on a project like this in a school can be quite frustrating. You spend alot of time fixing the 'hard' technical bits only to be blocked by red tape.
[12:29] <SBlair> back in 10 - lunch time!
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[12:44] <garymortimer> looks like a lovely day in UK
[12:45] <fsphil> sunshine and snow here
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[12:46] <Reb-SM0ULC> anyone know of a usb-hub or similar with option to power-reset the ports?
[12:48] <daveake> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superspeed-Transfer-Splitter-Switches-Computer/dp/B01M1RGFCG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1493124468&sr=8-5&keywords=usb+3+hub
[12:48] <daveake> Looks like it does
[12:53] <gonzo_> wonder if DISC mamanged to clear those lines on the way down
[12:53] <gonzo_> could eb a close one
[12:54] <gonzo_> we have some powered USB hubs on our kit, where the power feed is swiichable (for the whole hub)
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[12:55] <gonzo_> though what really happens is, when you try and turn the power off, it leeches off the pc
[12:55] <gonzo_> not sure if data-only usb cables are a standard thing????
[12:56] <PE2BZ> !flights
[12:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Egg 207 10(6f0b), 03SSC02 10(e2e0), 03GILBERD 10(0db5)
[12:56] <PE2BZ> !payload e2e0
[12:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03JOAL02 10(e2e0) 03$$JOAL02 - 03Primary - 03434.2 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[12:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03JOAL03 10(e2e0) 03$$JOAL03 - no transmissions
[13:02] <dbrooke> .dial JOAL03
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> 03dbrooke: Latest dials for 03JOAL03 10(e2e0): 03434.59782 MHz, 434.59797 MHz, 434.597942 MHz, 434.597898 MHz, 434.597875 MHz
[13:03] <dbrooke> LoRa Mode 1 ^^
[13:04] <daveake> looks like a pits with bme280. Not flown that myself yet :)
[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03test_john_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=test_john_chase
[13:15] <Laurenceb_> !whereis HIRFW-3
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: 03HIRFW-3 was over 03Indian Ocean 10(0.48107,76.96215) at 0313999 meters about 03a day ago
[13:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSC_chase
[13:26] <pb0ahx> is JOLA03 lora on 434.600 mode 1 ??
[13:27] <dbrooke> yes
[13:27] <pb0ahx> ok is put him on here
[13:28] <pb0ahx> Ch1: CRC Failure, RSSI -117
[13:29] <pb0ahx> Failed for URL 'http://ssdv.habhub.org/api/v0/packets'
[13:29] <pb0ahx> curl_easy_perform() failed: HTTP response code said error
[13:29] <pb0ahx> error: The requested URL returned error: 400 Bad Request
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[13:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
[13:48] <gonzo_> what are the lora params?
[13:49] <PE2BZ> 434.600 MHz and mode 1
[13:49] <pb0ahx> frequency_1=434.600
[13:49] <pb0ahx> mode_1=1
[13:49] <pb0ahx> AFC_1=Y
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #bandwidth_1=125K
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #implicit_1=0
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #coding_1=5
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #sf_1=8
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #lowopt_1=0
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #power_1=255
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #DIO0_1=6
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #DIO5_1=5
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #UplinkTime_1=5
[13:49] <pb0ahx> #UplinkCycle_1=60
[13:50] <gonzo_> do you not need all the params then? The mode implies it?
[13:51] <daveake> correct
[13:52] <gonzo_> and I've been tatting with them for ages
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0ZTV-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-1
[13:54] <dbrooke> they'll override the mode setting so you can set modes which haven't been pre-defined
[13:54] <gonzo_> all commented out now, ta
[13:56] <dbrooke> there's been the occasional flight which has used something different to the preset modes
[13:56] <dbrooke> but as it's mostly dave and/or pits then the presets usually suffice
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[14:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0ZTV-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-3
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[14:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sp9amh_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sp9amh_chase
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[14:19] <PE2BZ> Good afternoon. Who is to ask to check why the curl errors for uploading LORA packet appear ?
[14:25] <g8fjg> Ben, since using v1.8.6 I haven't seen many...and non today.....so far!!
[14:29] <PE2BZ> Hi Ron. PB0AHX is running 1.8.6 also but got quite a lot of the curl errors just about 30 minutes ago.
[14:30] <PE2BZ> And I have switched off my Pi so I can not run LORA from work now.
[14:31] <g8fjg> roger roger....tell me if you need to test again
[14:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SHOGUN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SHOGUN_chase
[14:33] <pb0ahx> see picture from me lora http://imgur.com/a/qAjG2
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[14:39] <dbrooke> that's the ssdv server rejecting the upload, maybe fsphil can comment?
[14:39] <fsphil> hello
[14:40] <dbrooke> I've not noticed any problem here
[14:41] <fsphil> most recent errors server side are "Invalid CRC"
[14:42] <dbrooke> I'm running gateway version 1.8.7, not sure without looking what changed from 1.8.6
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[14:43] <jerry_> !flights
[14:43] <SpacenearUS> 03jerry_: Current flights: 03Egg 207 10(6f0b), 03SSC02 10(e2e0), 03GILBERD 10(0db5)
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[14:44] <daveake> Looks like a bad packet ... LoRa seems to let more through than it ought to
[14:45] <fsphil> yeah
[14:45] <pb0ahx> http://imgur.com/a/bHEO6 the last one
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[14:45] <daveake> So LoRa said "CRC OK", header looked like SSDV, so it got sent to the SSDV server, which then did a CRC check on the packet and rejected it
[14:46] <fsphil> there's a chance the RS codes could correct the errors
[14:46] <dbrooke> that last one the callsign is corrupted
[14:46] <fsphil> but that needs to be done client side
[14:46] <fsphil> I'm not writing an RS decoder in PHP :)
[14:47] <daveake> hah!
[14:47] <jerry_> !dial
[14:47] <SpacenearUS> 03jerry_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:48] <dbrooke> so basically it's the LoRa CRC passing (despite errors) and the SSDV CRC failing (due to the errors) and rejecting the upload
[14:48] <PE2BZ> jerry !dial flightname , like !dial ssc02
[14:50] <fsphil> yeah
[14:51] <jerry_> thanks
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[14:52] <jerry_> !dial GILBERD
[14:52] <SpacenearUS> 03jerry_: Latest dials for 03GILBERD 10(0db5): 03644.397 MHz
[14:52] <dbrooke> does dl-fldigi do the FEC for SSDV ?
[14:52] <fsphil> yep
[14:53] <fsphil> the packets include reed-solomon FEC codes at the end
[14:54] <PE2BZ> jerry_ I suspect the GILBERD dial and payload to show a not correct frequency
[14:55] <dbrooke> so the LoRa gateway could potentially do something, assuming that the LoRa coding hasn't reduced the effectiveness of the RS coding
[14:55] <jerry_> i think you are right,
[14:55] <dbrooke> jerry_: GILBERD didn't fly so probably nothing was received
[14:56] <jerry_> ok, thank you, what freq is JOAL03 on?
[14:56] <fsphil> dbrooke: yes. it depends on the nature of the lora errors. if it's just a few bytes wrong then it should be correctable
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Lora 434.600 MHz
[14:56] <PE2BZ> and rtty 434.200 for JOAL02
[14:56] <PE2BZ> but descending after burst
[14:57] <jerry_> Oh, OK, Ill have to get the lora RX out ready for next time!
[14:57] <PE2BZ> !payload JOAL02
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03JOAL02 10(e2e0) 03$$JOAL02 - 03Primary - 03434.2 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[14:57] <PE2BZ> That would be thursday :-)
[14:57] <PE2BZ> !payload GILBERD
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03GILBERD 10(0db5) 03$$GILBERD - 03434.362 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/950Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[14:57] <daveake> :)
[14:58] <PE2BZ> jerry_ youre in the UK ?
[14:58] <jerry_> OK, great, I have not had any success rx'ing Lora spa will have another go Thursday
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[14:59] <jerry_> Yep, G8DXZ
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[15:03] <PE2BZ> gilberd tries to relaunch any of the next few days.
[15:03] <PE2BZ> jerry_ then you should be able to receive lora next thursday
[15:04] <PE2BZ> anouncement on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/CoVZ_kQEZt4
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[15:18] <fsphil> some good images coming from this flight
[15:18] <daveake> yup
[15:18] <daveake> thry've gone for some pretty large images on lora
[15:19] <daveake> Nicer images then KM6JAD :)
[15:19] <daveake> than
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[15:30] <pb0ahx> TEAM JOAL02 and 03 mni tnx for flight was a nice flight for me
[15:30] <pb0ahx> the signals are stable and strong here
[15:32] <pb0ahx> i lost him on 3.2 km
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[15:36] <g8fjg> only lost 2 packets on LoRa image 7 until los ...great pic
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[15:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BK-Ostvest3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BK-Ostvest3
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[15:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K4UAH-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-11
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[17:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
[17:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> !hysplit BSS5
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: HYSPLIT for 03BSS5 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/170425-16_166598_BSS5.gif
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Breadalbane - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Breadalbane
[17:06] <Reb-SM0ULC> daveake: thanks for the line, was thinking about usb-"hub" with the possiblity to powercycle a locked up device on remote
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[17:15] <SBlair> yee haa....I'm on the map! Sorry, first time over enthusistic outburst....
[17:16] <Reb-SM0ULC> :)
[17:17] <Reb-SM0ULC> it's a nice feeling
[17:17] <SBlair> Bredalbane is showing good data and a balmy liivingroom temp of 25.8 - better turn the thermostat down!
[17:19] <SBlair> I have noticed that the ok LED seem's to have broken. Perhaps one of the pupils dropped it and 'forgot' to tell me. It is missing the plastic bit on top of the metallic contacts. From now on...no lights will have to = good news
[17:21] <craag> lol, check it with dl-fldigi every time!
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[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[17:42] <SBlair> ok -now to think about how to track on the move. I intend to use a laptop but will obviously need internet access - how is that achieved remotely.
[17:44] <PE2BZ> Smartphone as hotspot ?
[17:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> MiFi device
[17:49] <PE2BZ> Opel with WiFi ;-)
[17:50] <SBlair> what's MiFi.....what's Opel?
[17:52] <craag> opel == vauxhall
[17:52] <PE2BZ> http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/onstar/index.html
[17:52] <PE2BZ> thanks craag ;-)
[17:53] <PE2BZ> SBlair do you drive with school kids ?
[17:53] <PE2BZ> You could drive from MCdonalds to MCdonalds for free wifi ;-)
[17:54] <PE2BZ> and MiFi is ¨My Wifi¨ , it´s a unit where you place a mobile sim card inside and it shares the internet connection by wifi
[17:55] <Reb-SM0ULC> these are pretty popular http://www.4gltemall.com/huawei-e5151-3g-21mpbs-mobile-wifi-router.html
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[17:56] <Reb-SM0ULC> or just use an old phone...
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[18:25] <SQ6OMN> Hello
[18:25] <PE2BZ> Hi
[18:25] <SQ6OMN> Can someone approve doc 808dcfde6348417e16355236c094c731 ?
[18:26] <PE2BZ> #habhub is the place for that
[18:26] <SQ6OMN> OK, thx for info.
[18:27] <Reb-SM0ULC> one dumb question... why is approval necessary? my documents always work immediately
[18:27] <Reb-SM0ULC> Feel I should know after fours years...
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[18:31] <Reb-SM0ULC> there was an awkward silence... :)
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[18:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> to be on google calendar and in flights list on dl-fldigi
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[19:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[19:49] <Reb-SM0ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: aah
[19:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> It aso means you can retrieve all the data for the Flight itself in one go.
[20:00] <adamgreig> an unapproved flight doc is like having no flight doc at all
[20:00] <adamgreig> your payload will work just like when you test it
[20:00] <adamgreig> but the data from that flight won't be grouped into a 'flight', can't be downloaded as a flight, won't be on the calendar or dl-fldigi, etc
[20:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> is there a way to run a trajectory from a flight 13 days ago?
[20:02] <adamgreig> not a prediction no, we don't store the wind data
[20:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No the wind data is rather large and is overwritten I beleive
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[20:02] <adamgreig> it's about 32GB/day
[20:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, not even on noaa? searched but did not find any
[20:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If you wanted to buy a few Petabytes of strage it might be arranged ?
[20:04] <adamgreig> noaa keep it for a while
[20:04] <adamgreig> no particularly easy way to run the predictor on the old dataset atm though
[20:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
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[20:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03daria_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=daria_chase
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> you can run a predictor using noaa
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> either manually or I wrote a bash script... somewhere
[20:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> using old wind data?
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[20:57] <Laurenceb_> yes, NOAA has it all
[20:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, cool, if yoy find the script, pls pm me
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[22:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7AIQ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7AIQ-11
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