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[03:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[05:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
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[06:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[07:58] <AndyEsser> Ian_: heights are nothing to be afraid of, it's the suddenly hitting something below you that's the danger :)
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[08:06] <gonzo_> so it's a fear of the ground?
[08:08] <fsphil> but its so friendly
[08:09] <AndyEsser> seen that Zero 2 Infinity launched their Bloostar Rockoon?
[08:11] <fsphil> just saw the video
[08:11] <gonzo_> it does want to give you a big hug when you meet it. 6ft of hug
[08:11] <SIbot13> In real units: 6 ft = 1.83 m
[08:11] <fsphil> wonder if they recovered that
[08:12] <AndyEsser> fsphil: apparently recovery was fully completed
[08:12] <AndyEsser> but whether that's just the balloon or not
[08:12] <AndyEsser> I don't kno
[08:12] <fsphil> yeah
[08:12] <AndyEsser> know(*
[08:12] <fsphil> it went quite sideways
[08:12] <AndyEsser> well, isn't that what you want?
[08:12] <AndyEsser> :)
[08:13] <fsphil> weird shape of a thing
[08:14] <AndyEsser> well we're so used to rockets being long and slender
[08:14] <AndyEsser> but at that altitude it doesn't really make all that much difference I guess
[08:16] <fsphil> 25km is near space now
[08:16] <fsphil> it keeps getting lower
[08:17] <AndyEsser> yea :(
[08:17] <AndyEsser> I guess anything from about 10km -> 100km the media will call "near space"
[08:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS22I after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS22I
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[08:18] <AndyEsser> well... I'm guessing that UBSEDS22I doesn't have GPS lock, rather than... actually splashed down in the ocean
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[09:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EALPITS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EALPITS
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[09:59] <fuzzylemon> could some one confirm this flight document please 025ee1341d55848d78d6b2e9d3abc533, telemetry is up and running
[10:00] <Darkside> uh
[10:00] <Darkside> fuzzylemon: go into #habitat please
[10:02] <Darkside> fuzzylemon: i think your flight doc is wrong
[10:02] <Darkside> you may have selected the wrong payload
[10:02] <Darkside> please /join #habitat
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[10:07] <fuzzylemon> Darkside: would you be able to check this payload id 49f532c20654fb161185c92e29b0d9be
[10:07] <Darkside> ffs, /join #habitat already
[10:07] <Darkside> thats where the approval stuff happens
[10:08] <fuzzylemon> Im on habitat
[10:09] <Darkside> fuzzylemon: then talk to me there
[10:09] <AndyEsser> Darkside: it's #habhub, not #habitat
[10:09] <Darkside> oh
[10:09] <Darkside> derp
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[10:23] <burnedfingers> !whereis hb9fdk-11
[10:23] <SpacenearUS> 03burnedfingers: 03HB9FDK-11 was over 03Tirreno Sea 10(38.70849,9.40766) at 039735 meters about 032 hours ago
[10:24] <burnedfingers> !whatisameter?
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[10:31] <gonzo_> I don't think sibot likes giving conversion to imperial
[10:32] <Ian_> a meter is a faceplate with a wiggly wand
[10:33] <fsphil> watt is a metre
[10:33] <Ian_> Watt had a mitre
[10:33] <AndyEsser> fsphil: that hertz
[10:33] <gonzo_> it's the joule in the crown
[10:33] <fsphil> send a metre
[10:33] <AndyEsser> speaing of Mitre... wonder if my mitre saw would be ok cutting the RG213 to length...
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[10:34] <edmoore> burnedfingers: it's the SI unit of length
[10:34] <Ian_> Watt hertz because the mitre didn't fit properly
[10:34] <gonzo_> prob, just a hackwas and handheld cable works ok. (Clean all the filings off)
[10:34] <Ian_> meter is the u/s unit of instruments
[10:34] <edmoore> AndyEsser: it depends on the tooth pitch
[10:34] <gonzo_> hacksaw
[10:35] <fsphil> remember to keep your eyes protected
[10:35] <edmoore> you know this because you did DT
[10:35] <Ian_> Big snips
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[10:35] <AndyEsser> edmoore: half a life ago
[10:36] <edmoore> well, it depends on the tooth pitch
[10:37] <AndyEsser> I honestly can't remember off the top of my head and I only used the saw the other week...
[10:38] <Ian_> AndyEsser do you have any side cutters? The odds are that you will be working on the cut end and so minor adjustment will remove any rough bits
[10:38] <AndyEsser> Ian_: Yes I do, and they're what I used last time
[10:38] <gonzo_> use whatever. Then trim back the outer/briad/bielectric a vew mill further back, so you can use wire snips to tidy the end of the inner, so it will go into the centre pin cleanly
[10:38] <gonzo_> snap
[10:39] <gonzo_> main tool is a really sharp knife for the trimming
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[10:39] <Ian_> Oh the blood . . .
[10:40] <gonzo_> no pain, no gain. Even in antennas
[10:40] <AndyEsser> going to take the cable drum, workbenches and final bits and pieces down to the office tonight, so might as well sit there for a bit making up the cables for the possible launch this weekend
[10:40] <Ian_> Always cut towards the guy giving the advice
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[10:48] <gonzo_> don't forget, a stout iron for doing the centre pin, as you needs lots of power and a fat tip to get the transfer. And a couple of spanners that fit
[10:49] <AndyEsser> well I'll use the only iron I have
[10:49] <AndyEsser> didn't solder the pins last time :P
[10:49] <gonzo_> 50w weller or equiv
[10:49] <Ian_> How to lose a good connection :(
[10:49] <gonzo_> hmmm, would keep quiet about that!
[10:49] <Ian_> Too late
[10:50] <AndyEsser> it behaved itself for the months it was up
[10:50] <Ian_> Luck
[10:50] <AndyEsser> was only supposed to be temporary anyway
[10:50] <Ian_> Temporary usually means that the fault will develop at the top end of the cable
[10:51] <AndyEsser> :)
[10:51] <Ian_> where it's least convenient to get at it to have a second crack at doing it properly
[10:51] <Ian_> Statistics and experience rarely lie
[10:51] <AndyEsser> Ian_: I'm not debating that
[10:51] <gonzo_> soldering up a mast is fun. Supprising how a breeze will take the heat away
[10:51] <Ian_> That's a shame
[10:51] <Ian_> :)
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[10:52] <Ian_> gonzo you are so right and the first thought was that the iron was perfectly adequate on the bench
[10:53] <gonzo_> most of the N types I have nade recently are crimp. As I got a load of suhner ones from westlake, for not a lot. But I had to make the crimp tooling
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[10:53] <Ian_> The truth usually dawns for the first time when all your limbs are aching with trying to stay on the ladder and all the other gymnastic stuff
[10:53] <gonzo_> the result was far better than I expected though
[10:54] <Ian_> If the Chinese can copy the die arrangements, then you have to be in with a good chance of getting it right
[10:55] <gonzo_> but the tool used a 6" record vice. Again, difficult to use away from the bench. (they are really heavy to have on your lap, sat crosslegged outside)
[10:55] <gonzo_> I didn't have anything to copy, just a connector to look at
[10:55] <Ian_> :) visions of you up a ladder with that for a quick crimp
[10:56] <gonzo_> wasn't a hex crimp. They needed a pair of wings crimping in to close up the ring. More like a hydraulic/fuel line than an electrical connector
[10:57] <gonzo_> I did have to hang it from the garage roof, by a bit of rope for one!
[10:58] <Ian_> I see that you have an active, yet logical, approach to problem solving . . .
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[10:59] <gonzo_> somewher I have a pic of me hanging upside down, on your club EME dish, with a welder dangling, trying to weld. The worst bit was trying to keep the mask from sliding off!
[10:59] <gonzo_> red neck mechanicing!
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[10:59] <AndyEsser> :)
[10:59] <gonzo_> our
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[11:01] <gonzo_> we occasionally get people with a H&S type bent.... The looks of horror we get from them are worth all the risks
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[11:05] <Ian_> My brother moved from aero engineering training into H&S. He has all the right qualities - tenacity and an exceedingly thick skin when it comes to personality and dealing with people generally.
[11:07] <Ian_> A bit like keeping a viscious dog. Does the job but not well liked. Apparently got a Coke machine removed from a reception area due to lack of compliant paperwork - in the middle of the summer :) Popular sort!
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[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Legionowo - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Legionowo
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[11:35] <edmoore> if you soak the paperwork in warm water for a while it becomes more compliant
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[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC3
[11:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSISP after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSISP
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[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
[12:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03Bromsgrove190a 10(8ae6), 03Sandringham HAB Flight 10(b8b4), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
[12:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight 8ae6
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Flight 10(8ae6): 03Bromsgrove190a 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 11:00 from 03South Yorkshire, UK 10(53.42377,-1.53889)
[12:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !payload 8ae6
[12:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Payload 03BARC3 10(8ae6) 03$$BARC3 - 03PITS Test - 03434.35 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[12:08] <Laurenceb> heh I do my fair share of H&S documentation
[12:09] <Laurenceb> it's fun in the same sense that weird role playing games are "fun"
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[12:10] <Laurenceb> utter nonsense but you have to play along
[12:19] <Ian_> AndyEsser - A thought or two http://imgur.com/a/2QVoi
[12:21] <Ian_> Left to right X50 2m/70cm, 1090MHz then 70cm and 2m yagis.
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[12:24] <AndyEsser> Ian_: cheers
[12:24] <AndyEsser> so two horizontals, with the X50 being at the very top of the vertical
[12:26] <Ian_> Essentially yes. If you were to try to put an X50 on a horizontal it would soon be hanging down under the effects of the wind and it's own weight
[12:27] <AndyEsser> yea, I never planned on putting the X50 on a horitzontal
[12:27] <AndyEsser> and the half wavelength gap between the 1090 and the X50
[12:27] <AndyEsser> is that have wavelength of the 1090, or the 2m/70cm?
[12:28] <Ian_> OK. Honestly I would put the yagis on a separate pole. 48mm is, in my opinion, too thin for the four antennas and they will sway like crazy. The forces will be on that wall and if nothing else it will hum badly in a moderate breeze.
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[12:29] <gonzo_> better putting the 1090 off below the x50 (out of bthe field, if youbv are using it for TX as well)
[12:29] <AndyEsser> Ian_: so have 2 vertical poles mounted to the house?
[12:29] <AndyEsser> gonzo_: none of these antennas are used for TX
[12:29] <AndyEsser> (although may at some point)
[12:30] <gonzo_> then, as far as poss away, would not worrt too much about wavelengths
[12:30] <AndyEsser> and the 1090 is literally just for local ADS-B RX
[12:30] <AndyEsser> the big ones are the 434 Yagi and the X50 @ 70cm
[12:30] <gonzo_> a couple of foot? It will not be that obvious once in the air
[12:31] <gonzo_> one of my poles hoots, rather than hum
[12:31] <gonzo_> the open end plays like a pan pipe
[12:31] <AndyEsser> I might find the rubber end caps for scaff pipes to fill them up
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[12:32] <Ian_> Ha ha, A big dod of Bluetac or similar if all else fails.
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[12:33] <Ian_> The reason I mention a fibreglass pole is the detuning as it passes next to yagi directors. Exceedingly significant if the ant' is horizontal, less so if the crossbar pases through at right angles,
[12:33] <Ian_> but still causes a slight squint.
[12:34] <AndyEsser> sure, makes sense
[12:34] <AndyEsser> at least the 434 will be vertically polarised
[12:34] <AndyEsser> but will find a fibreglass pole
[12:35] <Ian_> Fine. You would ideally put something into the fibreglass tube, or ali for that matter if clamped near an end, is to stop the clamp from crushing it and also becoming loose in the process.
[12:36] <AndyEsser> yep, noticed crushing from the clamp with the PVC pipe I used at the last place with the temporary mast
[12:37] <Ian_> The reason I suggest the yagis on a separate ground based pole, preferably around 75mm, is that you will be better able to adapt it for azel or whatever or turn it by hand.
[12:37] <AndyEsser> sure
[12:38] <AndyEsser> will give it some thought and see what's easy enough to accomplish
[12:38] <Ian_> I have visions of you trying to put all this all on one pole and then trying to get it up a ladder, whithout even thinking of trying to get it attached to a building . . . that would make a good movie . . .
[12:43] <Ian_> Suggestion for a 'free standing' pole. Get a good wooden post to sink into the ground with three or four foot in the air and arrange for a 4m length of straight 110mm soil pipe (Wickes £11ish) on the top of it. You can arrange to mount a pole (48mm if you insist) into the top to give you two to three metres more height.
[12:44] <Ian_> Once you start putting windage on it though you might be advised to give it additional support or guying.
[12:45] <Ian_> Food for thought. Just need to grease the pole as the kids might want to shin up it :) How old are they [thinking instructions and a stern look].
[12:45] <Ian_> ?
[12:47] <gonzo_> if you use an end mounted short yagi, then the poll will be behind the antenna and out of the field
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[12:50] <Ian_> And a 48mm pole will ensure that it points down slightly :) Counterweights seem attractive . . . for a few moments, as you realise that everything suddenly weighs twice as much and more.
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[12:54] <Ian_> With a STURDY pole even passably large antennas can be mounted as gonzo has suggested. There are a lot around to be seen and it solves the feeding and fixing problems almost at a stroke, but introduces other complications re size etc. For a fixed (non-rotating) installation it is pretty much recommended.
[12:54] <AndyEsser> Ian_: pole will be attached first, then working from top down attaching antennas and running cabling
[12:54] <AndyEsser> kids are 3 years and 6 months
[12:55] <AndyEsser> brb
[12:55] <Ian_> The young un won't be climbing a soil pipe for a few weeks yet then!
[12:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ODZUJF after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ODZUJF
[12:55] <gonzo_> by the time it's hoisted the bottom should be out of their reach. More likely, you will walk into it
[12:55] <Ian_> Note that every good idea comes with caveats.
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[12:59] <Ian_> Trying to envision it gonzo. Pole mounted to gable end then mounting antennas. Access from the roof by the sound of it. I feel giddy already. Mount the X50, push up the pole, mount crossbar with 1090MHz attached. Doable, but somehow I would feel nervous up there.
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[13:11] <AndyEsser> I have no issue working with heights, and the cables will already be sorted at the antenna end so it's a case of getting the vertical mounted to the house, then take up the X50 - tighten the bolts, plug the cable in, run it down the mast, rinse repeat for the others
[13:11] <AndyEsser> then terminate at the other end
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[13:19] <Ian_> You will gather that I like to keep my feet as on the ground as possible - I have too much imagination . . .
[13:19] <AndyEsser> I've noticed
[13:19] <Ian_> Gravity worries me at times
[13:19] <Ian_> :)
[13:26] <dbrooke> I was trying to find a picture of the antennas at my previous house but best I could do was this which shows the brackets http://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/10310002.jpg
[13:27] <dbrooke> I could slide the pole down to work at the top bracket
[13:28] <dbrooke> it's a 6m pole with a dual band colinear and a couple of non-rotatable yagis
[13:29] <Ian_> What was the diameter of the pole?
[13:30] <dbrooke> 50mm thick wall aluminium I think
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[13:31] <dbrooke> it's commercial spec, as are the brackets which you will see are a tripod and V which are stronger than T and K
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[13:35] <AndyEsser> dbrooke: basically exactly what I have in mind
[13:36] <AndyEsser> the 'standard' commercial scaffold I'm seeing is 48.3mm outside diameter, with 4mm wall thickness
[13:37] <dbrooke> I don't really like working at height but with the laddder jammed under the top bracket so it couldn't move sideways and then tied off to the lower bracket I didn't feel to unhappy
[13:37] <AndyEsser> I would be unlikely be working up the ladder at height without someone at the base anyway
[13:38] <dbrooke> someone else who is fearless of height put the brackets up for me and drilled the hole for the pipe for the feeders
[13:38] <AndyEsser> yea, currently unsure whether to fun the feeds into the loft and have the equipment in there (not easy to access really)
[13:39] <AndyEsser> or down into the garage (my initial plan)
[13:39] <AndyEsser> which would be preferred, but is a longer run
[13:39] <gonzo_> I'll get you a pic of what I have at the mo
[13:40] <gonzo_> this ev e
[13:40] <dbrooke> those come down through an airing cupboard above the stairs and then through a stud wall into the small bedroom
[13:41] <dbrooke> when I rented it out I just pulled them back up into the loft and fitted a blank 2 gang faceplate where they had come in to the room
[13:41] <dbrooke> none of my tenants have asked to use the antennas 8-)
[13:42] <aadamson> Laurenceb, - http://www.zero2infinity.space/updates/zero-2-infinity-successfully-launches-first-rocket-edge-space/
[13:42] <aadamson> a few day old, but non-the-less
[13:42] <Laurenceb> what the heck
[13:42] <Laurenceb> they built something
[13:42] <aadamson> built *and* launched
[13:42] <Laurenceb> and its that insane design
[13:43] <Laurenceb> doesnt look like its going in the right direction
[13:44] <Laurenceb> hmm looks like a dummy stage with an off the shelf reload in it
[13:44] <aadamson> estes wonder! lol
[13:46] <aadamson> not even sure if you guys in the UK know what estes is, but it's what most of us in the US cut our teeth on with rockets in the way back when timeframe :) - http://www.estesrockets.com/rockets/engines
[13:47] <AndyEsser> we know what estes is
[13:48] <Laurenceb> yeah and I bet its tumbling wildly
[13:48] <Laurenceb> zero2infinity don't seem to be sane
[13:48] <AndyEsser> and yet... they've built and launched something
[13:49] <AndyEsser> and if their press release is anything to go by have 250 million euros in letters of intent from potential clients
[13:49] <Laurenceb> crazy world
[13:50] <Laurenceb> ignition of rocket motors in vacuum seems to be a non issue
[13:50] <Laurenceb> unless you use crazy aerotech stuff that is near impossible to ignite ont he ground anyway
[13:51] <Laurenceb> 99.9% of the problem is guidance, and thats what I'm working on
[13:51] <aadamson> thermite is your friend
[13:51] <Laurenceb> you dont need to do anything excessive
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[14:02] <AndyEsser> Ian_: I think I said I'd get photos of the end of the house
[14:02] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/a/AB4Uk
[14:05] <Laurenceb> wow that site
[14:05] <Laurenceb> totally disconnected from reality
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[14:24] <Reb-SM0ULC> AndyEsser: nice grounding nearby :)
[14:25] <AndyEsser> ?
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[14:43] <Ian_> I think he means the electric box
[14:43] <Ian_> or the grassed area
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[14:48] <Reb-SM0ULC> yes
[14:52] <Reb-SM0ULC> the electric installaitons was what i was thinking about
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[15:09] <AndyEsser> http://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/te_6km_30km.png
[15:09] <AndyEsser> err.. whoops
[15:10] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/a/emLhf <- radio horizon coverage at 6km and 30km :)
[15:10] <dbrooke> haha, mine is the nice circular one 8-)
[15:11] <AndyEsser> yea, sorry about that
[15:11] <dbrooke> at least it was on topic
[15:11] <AndyEsser> shame that snowdonia sort of gets in the way of mine
[15:12] <AndyEsser> although not much point point out into the atlantic
[15:12] <AndyEsser> should be able to pick up elsworth launches from about 5.5km altitude
[15:13] <gonzo_> weren't you talking about putting something on there
[15:14] <gonzo_> snowdon
[15:14] <AndyEsser> yes
[15:14] <AndyEsser> basically a duplicate of what I have at home
[15:17] <AndyEsser> imgur.com/a/Mwwfq
[15:17] <AndyEsser> although doesn't really seem to be much point unless fsphil starts doing lots of hab launches
[15:18] <fsphil> so many launches. and they'll be the best launches
[15:21] <AndyEsser> bigly launches
[15:23] <fsphil> and the CAA will pay for them
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[16:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kobrajede_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kobrajede_chase
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SandC2 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SandC2
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[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SandC1 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SandC1
[17:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sandringham_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sandringham_chase
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[18:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LODGE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LODGE
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[18:30] <gonzo_> AndyEsser, www.g0nzo.co.uk/public/shed5_mast/
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[20:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> no call from ubseds22 but the 22Iridium seems to work well!
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[20:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HL1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HL1
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[21:14] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping (with more time at hand now)
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[21:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> Rocket launch tomorrow morning from Esrange with a ham radio cubesat at 21.09363Mhz bpsk31 read more here: http://dianeproject.de/
[21:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> I beleve launch is 8.30 utc , bpsk31 is one of the modes in fldigi
[21:50] <richardeoin> SA6BSS-Mike: I think ubseds22 is out of VHF range, so no packets today
[21:51] <richardeoin> the GPS on the Iridium tracker isn't getting a fix
[21:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> thought so to, great that the 22I have proveen to work well second day! :)
[21:51] <richardeoin> the conclusion is it doesn't work above 10km (ha!)
[21:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, hehe
[21:52] <richardeoin> the lat/lon on the map is the one provided by the iridium network with each packet
[21:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> but he updates comming in it looks like it following the prediction, or are the iridium system calculate probable location?
[21:53] <richardeoin> yeah it's the iridium one
[21:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[21:53] <richardeoin> it quotes a CEP radius of about 5 (km?), varies with each packet
[21:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> pretty good considering!
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[22:08] <richardeoin> it's not bad
[22:08] <richardeoin> you could fairly reasonably leave off the GPS to save weight
[22:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> Thought of that to
[22:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> u know wht the subscription of the module cost?
[22:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> or data plan
[22:10] <aadamson> In the US its around 1.09 US/k data of i remember right, plus a monthly fee
[22:11] <aadamson> and you can pay more monthly fee for a set amount of bytes included
[22:11] <richardeoin> SA6BSS-Mike: hmm no, could ask
[22:11] <aadamson> but bottom line it's some fraction of cents per byte
[22:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> looking through the iridium page
[22:11] <aadamson> we averaged around 300-400 US a month on a every 10 minutes type report on a bunch of round the world ones
[22:11] <richardeoin> I've seen similar values to aadamson online https://www.globaltelesat.co.uk/iridium-short-burst-data-sbd-monthly-airtime
[22:12] <aadamson> http://www.satphonestore.com/airtime/iridium-sbd.html
[22:13] <aadamson> basically you want too look for SBD (short Burst Data) plans by iridium
[22:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> saw this https://www.iridium.com/services/details/iridium-burst
[22:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> wow he iridium 9603 module is 185dolars
[22:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> + antenna
[22:19] <aadamson> you can find them cheaper, but yes, around $125-150 US is typical
[22:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, , oh its a two way module
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[22:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> looking at x-f site it looks like 22I cut out at 8500m
[22:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/UBSEDS22I#g/altitude
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[22:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
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[23:02] <RocketBoy> Hi Folks - anyone know a contact for Enfield County School Stem club - have a entry to fly on Saturday in the Calendar ??
[23:03] <RocketBoy> they have 434.8MHz listed (which is outside of the UK licence exempt band)
[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
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[23:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSISP after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSISP
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[23:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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