highaltitude.log.20170216

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[01:17] <SpeedEvil> 'for over and hour' - no
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> ah
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> yes
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> I should read all of scrollback before typing
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[07:40] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:40] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03EDUPIC16 10(d548), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
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[07:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[08:15] <SA6BSS-Mike> from maillist: Due to weather conditions the launch will most likley be moved to around 1100 tomorrow (edupic16)
[08:19] <PE2BZ> Tnx Mike
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[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
[08:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0317 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[09:03] <Rebounder> oki!
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[10:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6PNN-5 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PNN-5
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[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03EDUPIC16 10(d548), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight edupic16
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Flight 10(d548): 03EDUPIC16 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 07:00 from 03West Midlands, UK 10(52.5384,-1.8782)
[11:27] <dbrooke> "the launch will most likley be moved to around 1100" <- so still within ISH
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup with a floater as well, might be trying to get the right lift!
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03300 stacy_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=300%20stacy_chase
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY
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[11:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> KK6PNN-5 is ower Celtic sea /uk
[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:58] <jededu> edupic is up but very weak i think the radio is damaged
[11:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh dear
[11:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> stil on RTTY Frequency 434.070 Baud 100 Shift 500
[11:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> ?
[12:00] <jededu> Its not far from me and I cant decode it it seemed to stop when it passed a cellphone tower quite close only a few feet
[12:00] <jededu> yes the settings are correct its
[12:01] <jededu> I should imagine its somewhere near leicester
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPIC16 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EDUPIC16
[12:05] <jededu> Ah GK8NN has it
[12:06] <G8KNN> its dial is about 434.074
[12:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> prediction http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=16fc2df6c48b46152712b2e5f5e7f4ee0adcec35
[12:07] <G8KNN> signal strength seems OK to me
[12:08] <dbrooke> yes, found it here too
[12:08] <dbrooke> should decode next time
[12:09] <G8KNN> frequency seems stable given the long gaps in transmission
[12:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
[12:11] <dbrooke> yes, I didn't need to retune
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[12:20] <jededu> Is frequency setting correct ?
[12:21] <jededu> Got it
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[12:44] <hab_pxl> Hi. I'm decoding the signals, and showing in the list of receivers in the left hand panel on the tracker (M6PXL), but not showing on the map. How do I fix that? Thx
[12:47] <fsphil> you need to enter your location under the dl client tab in the setup
[12:47] <fsphil> and a callsign
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[12:49] <hab_pxl> got it, thanks. Had missed the altitude, had everything else :)
[12:49] <fsphil> ah yes, you'd think that would default to 0 but no :)
[12:51] <hab_pxl> yeah, that was my assumption. In hindsight, the fact that the field was still bright pink should have been a giveaway
[12:52] <hab_pxl> I'm coming back to HAB after a couple of years away, but it's slowly coming back to me
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[13:20] <Rebounder> edupic a solar one?
[13:21] <jededu> Not this one its capable but not enabled
[13:21] <Rebounder> oki!
[13:23] <Rebounder> SA6BSS-Mike: time to start our vacumcleaners and suck it a bit north
[13:24] Nick change: Rebounder -> SM0ULC-Reb
[13:32] <PE2BZ> No HAB rx on that QRG for me :-( http://imgur.com/a/HnXUi
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[13:36] <SM0ULC-Reb> :(
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[13:47] <PE2BZ> !payload EDUPIC16
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03EDUPIC16 10(d548) 03$$EDUPIC16 - 03RTTY Only - 03434.07 MHz USB 03RTTY 100/500Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[13:50] <PE2BZ> The signal magically disappeared :-) First green, with ¨rev¨ on in dl-fldigi
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[14:11] <jededu> Looks like a float :)
[14:13] <AndyEsser> I prefer ints
[14:15] <fsphil> double the fun
[14:17] <daveake> That's a baseless argument
[14:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> An exponent of the art
[14:19] <AndyEsser> I thought this would just be a bit of fun
[14:19] <fsphil> that is precisely the point
[14:20] <daveake> I'm part of the fraction faction
[14:20] <fsphil> where they not all rounded up?
[14:20] <mfa298> i feel bad for anyone that has to read this in the log
[14:23] <daveake> It's only natural
[14:23] <dbrooke> is that common? it doesn't seem nayural
[14:23] <fsphil> it's not a sin
[14:28] <gonzo_> any evidence to base that argument on?
[14:29] <dbrooke> it's just imaginary
[14:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> No determinant to base it on
[14:29] <gonzo_> is that all you have to bring to the table
[14:29] <gonzo_> that's the rule
[14:30] <gonzo_> (But I'll let it slide)
[14:35] <dbrooke> you should square up to it
[14:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> No going off on tangents then
[14:42] <PE2BZ> Are you all real ?
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[15:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA5177_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA5177_chase
[15:25] Nick change: MoALTz_ -> MoALTz
[15:27] <cm13g09> I've lost count of the number of puns
[15:28] <cm13g09> anyone fancy summing up the last hour and a half?
[15:28] <cm13g09> mfa298 perhaps ;)
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[16:28] <gordonkoehn> Hey there, I am a 18 year old student form Hamburg. I started a HAB project with another friend from my school. We are totally new to HABs. Do you happen to know someone in the area of northern Germany who would be willing to share some knowledge ?
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[16:57] <Vaizki> one does wonder why the source of HAB knowledge should be in northern Germany.
[16:58] <Vaizki> ... and he was gone
[17:02] <lz1dev> don't you know, people sit on irc all day waiting for someone to show up asking questions
[17:02] <kokey> I see this problem at work sometime
[17:03] <kokey> an open source project is used, people are stuck with a problem with said project
[17:03] <kokey> someone reads, or hear someone mention, that there's an irc channel for the project on freenode
[17:04] <kokey> so then someone figures out how the irc thingie works, goes online, joins the channel, asks the question like they have opened a support chat window to a commercial vendor
[17:04] <kokey> and then wait for a reply
[17:04] <kokey> get nothing back, and give up
[17:04] <kokey> I've seen a project manager do this
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[17:06] <lz1dev> yeah, thats the joke :)
[17:07] <lz1dev> also one of the reasons stuff like slacks, discord, gitter is popular
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[17:07] <lz1dev> chat history
[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6POI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6POI-11
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[17:32] <lostcause_> hello! Well, I'm heading to the Nevada desert in 3 weeks time with a friend, we thought launching a weather balloon might be fun. Never done anything like it before, although I'm happy with PIs, programming, arduinos etc.
[17:32] <lostcause_> Thinking it might be good to track it in flight, so need some kind of radio transmitter/receiver. Anyone got any advice for me for a cheap project I could follow online or something?
[17:33] <lostcause_> I'm hoping to just get lucky with this really, I appreciate to do it properly would take a lot longer to plan and build...but also curious to see what I can do in such a short time from scratch with zero experience.
[17:34] <daveake> Either of you have a radio ham licence ?
[17:34] <lostcause_> nope, afraid not. Is that needed for all frequencies out there?
[17:35] <lostcause_> I'm based in UK btw, but this is a launch in USA Nevada.
[17:35] <daveake> 915 is an ISM band so you could do something there
[17:35] <lostcause_> I understand GSM not allowed above ground there
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[17:35] <lostcause_> and also not useful above a certain height anyway.
[17:35] <daveake> Dunno about "not allowed", but it doesn't work above maybe 2km
[17:36] <lostcause_> Yeah FAA rules say no GSM above ground level apparently
[17:36] <daveake> And you said Nevada, and that will have huge areas with no signal anyway
[17:36] <lostcause_> Yeah so radio sounds like a better idea to me
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[17:39] <lostcause_> I notice tracker.habhub.org how does that work? Are people sending their data to that web site from their own receiving stations?
[17:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> oops An error occurred during a connection to ukhas.org.uk. Peer's Certificate has been revoked. Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE
[17:41] <lz1dev> aprs is your best bet in the us i guess
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[17:41] <daveake> Yes, its a distributed receiver network. So the balloon transmits its position, and ground stations pick that up and pass the messages (time/location/etc) to the server that drives the map
[17:41] <daveake> lz1dev: No licence
[17:42] <lz1dev> find a guy with a license then :)
[17:42] <daveake> :)
[17:42] <lostcause_> So using that could I make use of someone elses ground stations to track it?
[17:42] <lz1dev> APRS, yes
[17:43] <lz1dev> but still need license to transmit
[17:43] <daveake> For the USA then yes, APRS has the most complete network there
[17:44] <lostcause_> I assume getting a license quickly and cheaply is not an option...
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[18:53] <AndyEsser> python types
[18:53] <AndyEsser> if I wanted to plot a path on a map of the UK is there a nice handy plugin for that?
[19:04] <adamgreig> yea
[19:04] <adamgreig> basemap
[19:04] <adamgreig> http://matplotlib.org/basemap/users/examples.html
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[19:10] <Jed_edu> I dont think EDUPIC16 will survive the next weather event its too low
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[19:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like it got a micro leak
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[19:44] <Jed_edu> I can see weather on the radar also the temp has increased
[19:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, can be ice on en balloon
[19:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> tryed to fins any web sdr in the area to help out tracking but cant fins any
[19:48] <AndyEsser> adamgreig: thanks adam
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[19:54] <Jed_edu> Thanks for trying Mike
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[20:02] <Jed_edu> At least it seems to be in level flight now
[20:03] <Jed_edu> websdr germany
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[20:06] <Jed_edu> Now its gaining alt
[20:07] <Jed_edu> It will go into 10min tx mode at 2200 maybe somone will pick it up tomorrow
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[20:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SV3CIX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX_chase
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[20:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> its going in over Poland and there is a LOT of traking stations
[20:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> nice to see it climbing again!!
[20:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> 22.00 utc?
[20:24] <Jed_edu> Yes UTC
[20:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[20:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> one should probably åut a note in the Polish HAB forum http://sp7pki.iq24.pl/default.asp?grupa=230409
[20:27] <Jed_edu> Excellent idea do you know polish :)
[20:27] <Jed_edu> Google Translate :)
[20:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> I dont but I can make a note in English, hang on...
[20:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> when will it resume normal tx interwalls in the morong?
[20:28] <Jed_edu> Ok
[20:28] <Jed_edu> Yes at 0700
[20:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> k
[20:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> !dial EDUPIC16
[20:30] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: Latest dials for 03EDUPIC16 10(d548): none
[20:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> hopefully it will get some listeners online tomorrow
[20:35] <Jed_edu> Thanks for your help :)
[20:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[20:46] <dj3ak> !dial edupic16
[20:46] <SpacenearUS> 03dj3ak: Latest dials for 03EDUPIC16 10(d548): none
[20:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> 434.073 they say
[20:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> its on a 2min tx
[20:49] <dj3ak> Hello Mike, thanks, yes. it is audible here
[20:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> thumbup
[20:51] <Jed_edu> :)
[20:52] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,287,20:51:24,5043.77277,00812.09221,0379.4,-20.5,0,1.36,0*F240
[20:53] <Jed_edu> dj3ak where are you?
[20:54] <dj3ak> near Wolfsburg in JO52GJ
[20:56] <dj3ak> green decode now :)
[20:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> ypu are not on the map, are u using dl-fldigi hab mode?
[20:57] <Jed_edu> Ah just on the horizon
[20:58] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,290,20:55:22,5043.48447,00815.76405,06,5492.4,-22.75,0,1.4,0*EE2D
[20:59] <dj3ak> yes. hab mode is what I am using. Strange that I do not appear on the map today
[21:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> you have to put in your coordinates dlclient - location
[21:01] <Jed_edu> And callsign i belive
[21:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> a name or something in the name filed yes
[21:02] <dj3ak> 3.21.50 - it used to work fine. Maidenhead Locator and Callsign are still in the confdig-tab - as it worked before
[21:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://imgur.com/a/aQNU2
[21:06] <dj3ak> ok, it is all set correctly here. I will restart my PC now as it already showed some kind of strange network behaviour this evening. will be back in a minute
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[21:12] <Jed_edu> looks like it might be on 10 min tx now
[21:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, but its on 21.12 utc?
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[21:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> dj3ak: it might be on a 10min tx now
[21:16] <dj3ak> back again, but still not on the map. 4 weeks ago it still worked fine for PD0HJ-flight
[21:17] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,294,21:03:4,5 42.51508,00823.)604,05,5502.0,-21.75,0,1.39,0*14A8
[21:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> and the you are "online" under dl client
[21:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> green?
[21:17] <dj3ak> red decode, many key fob sigs for cars
[21:17] <Jed_edu> Ill check the code
[21:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> if u get green I can manualy upplad it to the map
[21:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> any error message at the bottom of fldigi when it upload telemetry?
[21:21] <dj3ak> let us wait for the next transmission
[21:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
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[21:23] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,295,21:13:22,5042.22011,00832.82736,06,5152.6,-19.25,0,1.4,0*B0DB
[21:24] <dj3ak> that was a green decode :)
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[21:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, crc checks out :)
[21:25] <Jed_edu> its in 10 min tx mode now but switches to 2 min at 0600 my mistake sorry
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[21:27] <PE2G> Evening, it's on 10 min tx. Signal strong.
[21:27] <PD3T> damn mist edupic with a;ll satellite comotion ;)
[21:28] <Jed_edu> Thanks PE2G for tracking
[21:29] <PE2G> :)
[21:30] <PD3T> @PE2G, signal strength ?
[21:31] <PE2G> S3 on my S meter. It's on 434.074.6 for 1500 Hz centre
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[21:35] <dj3ak> 22:34 hrd telemetry but no decode this time
[21:35] <PE2G> Yeah, due to local QRM here...
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[21:36] <dj3ak> so many people qsoing with their cars, hi
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[21:41] <PE2G> $$$$$EDUPIC16,296,21:23:22,504<XœôÛÐ00842.55746,05,4674.1,-17.25,0,1.41,0*4408
[21:44] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,297,21:33:22,5043.84231,00851.97058,06,4199.4,-15.5,0,1.42,0*222B
[21:44] <PE2G> Spoilt by QRM again here
[21:46] <dj3ak> looks fine on the map - perfect symmetry :)
[21:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2G: any parcial decode pls paste, might be repairible
[21:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, dj3ak got it
[21:47] <Jed_edu> dj3ak :)
[21:49] <PE2G> I appear to be outside the blue circle now
[21:49] <dj3ak> it lost height considerably
[21:53] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,298,21:43:22,5045.89440,00900.89602,07,3796.1,-13.25,0,1.41,0*9FB0
[21:54] <PE2G> Traces still but no decode anymore
[21:56] <dj3ak> right at the edge here now
[21:59] <Jed_edu> Its in cloud i think temp has gone up again there is a lot of weather on the radar in that area
[22:02] <dj3ak> yes, I guess there will be rain shortly
[22:03] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC!6,299,21:3:"2,08.11407,00909.85693,06,3441.1,-12.25,0,1.$1(*4712
[22:03] <dj3ak> red decode
[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BACON test_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BACON%20test_chase
[22:07] <Jed_edu> Yes heavy by the look of the radar webshall see if it survives
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[22:14] <dj3ak> $$EDUPIC16,294,21:03:4,5 42.51508,00823.)604,05,5502.0,-21.75,0,1.39,0*14A8
[22:14] <dj3ak> this was really weak now
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[22:24] <dj3ak> nil here
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[22:35] <dj3ak> EDUPIC16 sigs still there but far too weak to decode now
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[22:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> fingers crossed it survives the night!
[22:39] <dj3ak> yes, fingers crossed
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